David wright is not the all star game starter):

[metsplaya123]

:mad:

WHAT A JOKE

wright- 355. ba, 9 hr, 50 rbi, 75 games started

sandoval- 307. ba, 6 hr, 25 rbi, 44 games started





THIS IS A SHAME AND A SCAM

[hotbox]

:mad:Wright definitely should've started

[metsandweezer]

i am more than pissed :mad:

[7290morint]

This is why the fans should not be allowed to vote for starters. It's a joke.

[metsplaya123]

i am more than pissed :mad:
i was also shocked , its unreal

[metsplaya123]

This is why the fans should not be allowed to vote for starters. It's a joke.
it is, i dont know how he won, wright had like over 150000 votes til the last day

[metsplaya123]

:mad:Wright definitely should've started
i know )::

[frozenntimesports]

Carlos Ruiz should have started at catcher ahead of Buster Posey. I guess that San Francisco fans stuffed the ballots, although Posey belongs, I don't see why Sandoval is even an all-star at 3B with Martin Prado, Chase Headley and David Freese all having better seasons.

[metsplaya123]

Carlos Ruiz should have started at catcher ahead of Buster Posey. I guess that San Francisco fans stuffed the ballots, although Posey belongs, I don't see why Sandoval is even an all-star at 3B with Martin Prado, Chase Headley and David Freese all having better seasons.
giants fans suck

[CALVINXLIONSX81]

they got the 3rd base starters wrong on both sides

should have been Miggy and Wright

[danimal875]

I am a Met fan and pissed too but I understand. Wright has been an average player at best for the last 3 seasons, if he keeps this up for another year, the fans will get behind him again. He was an All-Star starter in 09 when Zimmerman deserved it, so it is a wash in my eyes.

[slugger22]

i am more than pissed :mad:

Same here. What a shame !

[BostonNut]

I can't believe people still bitch and moan about who plays in the All-Star Game.

The whole thing is a joke.

[Ooosh]

This is why the fans should not be allowed to vote for starters. It's a joke.

Agreed, oh well!

[bballkid8]

That was such a joke. Wright definitely deserved it.

[JohnnysBench]

It's a shame but not a scam. And Giants fans must rule, I wish more Nats fans voted!!!

[metsplaya123]

this has nothing to do with anything , if u play like an all star , you should be the starter, sandavols suks

[metsplaya123]

That was such a joke. Wright definitely deserved it.
it is!!!!!!

[kyle1707]

Braun and david wright

what a joke..

[Brad]

Braun deserved to start again too, but the rubes who still think he cheated likely caused him to just miss out on the top 3 OF spots.

Greinke deserved a spot too, but he'll probably still make it as a replacement.

[BostonNut]

So both teams should start 40 players??? :confused:

this has nothing to do with anything , if u play like an all star , you should be the starter, sandavols suks

[7290morint]

Braun deserved to start again too, but the rubes who still think he cheated likely caused him to just miss out on the top 3 OF spots.

Greinke deserved a spot too, but he'll probably still make it as a replacement.

This^^^^^^^

[7290morint]

These are the same fans that gave Freddy Sanchez over 2 million votes, lol.

https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status/219494118408200192

[metsplaya123]

So both teams should start 40 players??? :confused:
what is the argument again? wright is second in hitting in the whole league, his obp is astronomical, hes going to win a gold glove, and he is a huge reason why the mets are doing so well, HE IS THE BEST THIRD BASEMAN IN THE LEAGUE, HANDS DOWN

[mnvikingstwins]

Why is Napoli the catcher? Mauer's stats are much, much better. Napoli has 8 more HRs, Mauer has 87 points better on BA, 6 more RBI, and 83 points better on OPS.

[CALVINXLIONSX81]

Also why isnt Austin Jackson on the team, :(

[zookerman182]

how does lance lynn make it and not greinke?

amazing

[romad97]

The all star game is not about who the best players are, its a showcase of the fan favorites. Who pays the salaries and keeps baseball afloat? The fans do. By this rational it should be the fans who choose who they want to see in the all star game. I totally agree that some of the mentioned guys are currently playing better ball than some of those who were selcted, back to the OP, yes, Wright is definately one of the best players this year. Under current all star criteria though, it is the fans who select the players and not skill. As a fan myself, I would rather see certain players myself if I was paying to go see the game vs guys I know are probably better players.

[babyfaceposey]

Carlos Ruiz should have started at catcher ahead of Buster Posey. I guess that San Francisco fans stuffed the ballots, although Posey belongs, I don't see why Sandoval is even an all-star at 3B with Martin Prado, Chase Headley and David Freese all having better seasons.

That's right I stuffed the crap out of those ballot boxes. GO GIANTS!!! :flex:

[IamRalpho]

So much whining in this thread and insulting players and fans because Wright isnt a starter? WHO CARES.

He will play in the game, he will make the all star team, and it doesnt hurt his resume that he didnt start

[possom813]

Why is Napoli the catcher? Mauer's stats are much, much better. Napoli has 8 more HRs, Mauer has 87 points better on BA, 6 more RBI, and 83 points better on OPS.


Because Mauer doesn't have his own chant:)!

Mike Napoli's 2 run single in the 4th inning, ALDS Game 2 Rangers Rays while fans chant NAPOLI - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKkeL-1Usqg)

[mnvikingstwins]

Because Mauer doesn't have his own chant:)!

Mike Napoli's 2 run single in the 4th inning, ALDS Game 2 Rangers Rays while fans chant NAPOLI - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKkeL-1Usqg)

MVP! MVP! MVP! Has Napoli heard that one yet?
-SF65OWvhgo

[possom813]

MVP! MVP! MVP! Has Napoli heard that one yet?
-SF65OWvhgo


But see, Mauer's is a local chant from one section, Na-Po-Li rings out in the entire stadium:p

[dlab85]

MVP! MVP! MVP! Has Napoli heard that one yet?

Mauer hasn't heard that one in three years either lol. I thought Saltalamacchia should have made it over Wieters, but oh well... hopefully it motivates him for the rest of the year. ASG is nothing more than a popularity contest anyways, as it should be.

Like it or not, fans would rather tune in to see their favorites than to see the guys who statistically have had the better first half. And without fans (even the casual ones) this game is not what we have come to know it as today.

[IamRalpho]

Saltalmacchia should have made it over Napoli and even Wieters.

Most teams have beefs bout the game.

[Manmadeofsteel]

Stupid popularity contests! Also, I hate the All Star Game is the NBA DRAFT LOTTERY......

[purejd86p]

That's right I stuffed the crap out of those ballot boxes. GO GIANTS!!! :flex:

Go Giants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Real fans baby.:flex: Wow New York fans crying about the all star game LMFAO. I wonder how many of these people that are bitching and moaning about the votes actually voted?:rolleyes:

[jp98]

Pretty sad Derek Jeter is the starter at short over guys like Alcides Escobar....need to get rid of the fan vote.

[bulljh]

Also why isnt Austin Jackson on the team, :(

Who would you take off the team to add Jackson??

[babyfaceposey]

I blame the play that David Wright didn't make on the no hitter for the snub. See Panda made the final out on Cain's perfect game....therefore he wins.

[metsandweezer]

I blame the play that David Wright didn't make on the no hitter for the snub. See Panda made the final out on Cain's perfect game....therefore he wins.

it wasn't sandoval it was juan arias.

[sfgiants4ever]

I blame the play that David Wright didn't make on the no hitter for the snub. See Panda made the final out on Cain's perfect game....therefore he wins.

Arias made the last play... and while Wright deserved it more, Sandoval got more votes and thats what it comes down to.

[patricksb4]

I am a Giants fan and shocked that Sandoval beat out Wright to start. Everyone complaining for certain players shows it is a popularity contest.

Who should vote for the starters if fans don't? I don't want players doing so because they will just vote for teammates and friends. GMs, writers?

[frozenntimesports]

Go Giants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Real fans baby.:flex: Wow New York fans crying about the all star game LMFAO. I wonder how many of these people that are bitching and moaning about the votes actually voted?:rolleyes:

Forgive me for trusting baseball fans to know that a good defensive 3B batting .350 and leading his team is better than a shaky defensive 3B batting just above .300 who is devoid of leadership talent is an all-star.

Never again. We'll get Josh Thole in the All Star game next year. Payback is a #@#@#@#@#@#@. :D

[sfgiants4ever]

Forgive me for trusting baseball fans to know that a good defensive 3B batting .350 and leading his team is better than a shaky defensive 3B batting just above .300 who is devoid of leadership talent is an all-star.

Never again. We'll get Josh Thole in the All Star game next year. Payback is a #@#@#@#@#@#@. :D

Just be glad not all Giants fans are complete homers, other wise we could have easily had Sandoval, Brandon Crawford, Dan Uggla and Brandon Belt starting in the infield and that would be just bad

[skylog]

the thing that gets me is wright had a 500,000 vote lead going into the end, yet panda beat him 5.7 million to 4.1 million with an insane amount of votes cast the last week.

wow! 2.3 million for freedy sanchez? sigh.

[JohnnysBench]

I think that David Wright should start, dont get me wrong. Having said that starters are chosen by votes. If we dont like this system of All Star selection we should talk about that, not whether the best all around playing player for a position should start. That, IMO, is a no brainer...

[frankiecgsw]

im not kdding, but i used a fake email bigdick@yahoo.com and was able to vote. its not a scam, just a terrible system

[purejd86p]

Forgive me for trusting baseball fans to know that a good defensive 3B batting .350 and leading his team is better than a shaky defensive 3B batting just above .300 who is devoid of leadership talent is an all-star.

Never again. We'll get Josh Thole in the All Star game next year. Payback is a #@#@#@#@#@#@. :D

Trust me I know his stats do not add up to Wright's this year, but this happens every year to someone deserving of that all star spot. People get so bent out of shape about it. If fans really wanted Wright bad enough they should have voted for him. ;)

[massey]

Quote from Mets GM Sandy Alderson:

“Wright vs.Sandoval: A city of 8 million was outvoted by a city of 800,000.”

[Copeskey45]

The "All-Star Game" is a popularity contest. I think it's dumb as hell for them to give "homefield advantage" to the winning team. They should just alternate "homefield advantage" every year.

[picojim]

:mad:

WHAT A JOKE

wright- 355. ba, 9 hr, 50 rbi, 75 games started

sandoval- 307. ba, 6 hr, 25 rbi, 44 games started


what about in 2009
Wright - 324 with five homers and 44 RBIs
Sandoval - .330 with 15 homers and 55 RBI

Wright started...Sandoval didnt even make the team

[Metsfan1121]

what about in 2009
Wright - 324 with five homers and 44 RBIs
Sandoval - .330 with 15 homers and 55 RBI

Wright started...Sandoval didnt even make the team

In my opinion, wright might have been closer to the best choice than you think. Power is not as important because all-star pitchers don't give up many home runs. Fielding is huge because hits are scarce, and one can make a difference. Wright is clearly superior to Sandoval in running, throwing, and fielding. He was a good candidate for all-star. I am also 100% bias as a huge angry mets fan.

[btimm]

im not kdding, but i used a fake email bigdick@yahoo.com and was able to vote. its not a scam, just a terrible system

That's not a fake email - it's mine. Thanks for preventing me from voting, jerk. :mad:

[aclben]

what about in 2009
Wright - 324 with five homers and 44 RBIs
Sandoval - .330 with 15 homers and 55 RBI

Wright started...Sandoval didnt even make the team

Best post of the thread!

Complain about the system all you want but no reason to hate on the player. They're both deserving of All Star attention.

aclben

[jaydub]

Frankly I wish they'd do away with the whole 25 votes per person crap. This just helped to magnify the giants get out the vote ballot stuffing operation. One person one vote works for everything else so why muck with it? I mean Freddy Sanchez getting millions of votes and he hasn't set foot on the playing field this year? Just lame.

[skylog]

Best post of the thread!

Complain about the system all you want but no reason to hate on the player. They're both deserving of All Star attention.

aclben

i would argue the difference between 2009 and 2012 is that in 2009 the numbers were much more similar than in 2012. should have panda gone in 2009, perhaps yes, but the numbers given here show it was "close." in addition, the 2009 mets were horrid and were playing their first season in citi field. HR and RBI #'s are quite team dependent, making those numbers even closer.

in 2012, wright's numbers clearly outmatch panda's. no? in addition, and perhaps the biggest thing for me, panda only played in 44 games. to me that is the worst part about all of this. that i do not like.

lastly, i hate the system most. let me clarify that a little. since the game actually means something, the system should change. if they want to go back to random home field, then keep the all-star game the joke it really is. (for clarification, i mostly hate all the all-star/pro bowl deals)

[mainerunr]

In my opinion, wright might have been closer to the best choice than you think. Power is not as important because all-star pitchers don't give up many home runs. Fielding is huge because hits are scarce, and one can make a difference. Wright is clearly superior to Sandoval in running, throwing, and fielding. He was a good candidate for all-star. I am also 100% bias as a huge angry mets fan.

well, there were none in 2009, maybe because Wright was there instead of the Panda.

since 2000, there have been 27 home runs hit in the all star game (12 games), so an average of 2.25 HR per game.

So far this season, there have been 2,372 HR or an average of 79.06 per team. Teams have played at least 77 games meaning the average (if we use 77 games per team although some have played more) is 1.027HR per game. Two teams in a game means the average number of HR per game this season is 2.054.

I mean, really, we all know that it is a popularity contest, there is no point in complaining that 'player A' has better stats than 'player B' because nothing says the fans have to take stats into consideration.

[ArsonCuff]

As a Giants fan here is my brief rant on the topic: Love & Rants: Kung Fu Panda Defeats David Wrightfully (http://lovenrants.blogspot.com/2012/07/kung-fu-panda-defeats-david-wrightfully.html)