White Sox acquire Francisco Liriano*

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"White Sox Acquire Francisco Liriano
By Mike Axisa [July 28, 2012 at 10:01pm CST]

The White Sox tried hard to land Zack Greinke before he went to the Angels, so they instead turned to a familiar foe to shore up the rotation. The team announced (on Twitter) that they have acquired Francisco Liriano for Eduardo Escobar and Pedro Hernandez, the team announced."

[mnvikingstwins]

They better be good prospects, Twins should have kept Franky and signed him to an extension.

[CALVINXLIONSX81]

Lawlz, Liriano, haha

[BostonNut]

Why is that funny?

Liriano could be a huge pickup for Chicago. Knows the division and has proven at times to be nasty.

Lawlz, Liriano, haha

[Rangers09]

They better be good prospects, Twins should have kept Franky and signed him to an extension.

Escobar is one of the best fielding shortstops I've seen. He played in Birmingham in 2010, and made some amazing plays. He was fast, and he had a cannon. Hitting could use some improvement, but he was still a very solid player.

[CALVINXLIONSX81]

Why is that funny?

Liriano could be a huge pickup for Chicago. Knows the division and has proven at times to be nasty.

hes a bum who was an ace on what was one of the worst staffs in the league

[lambeauleap87]

Why is that funny?

Liriano could be a huge pickup for Chicago. Knows the division and has proven at times to be nasty.

He's also proven at times to be dreadful. It's a risky move being that Liriano has been on and off, but the cost was relatively low and he's been great at times. From the Chisox perspective, I like the move.

[rck1234567]

Dont care what the Twins got for him hopefully decent prospects

Just glad to know he is off the team

[BostonNut]

Well of course...name one pitcher in the history of Major League Baseball who hasn't.

Any proven starting pitching you can acquire at this point in the season is vital to contending teams. Everyone and their mother knows this except the Tigers homer who is only poo-pooing it because it affects a division rival...

He's also proven at times to be dreadful. It's a risky move being that Liriano has been on and off, but the cost was relatively low and he's been great at times. From the Chisox perspective, I like the move.

[Homerun]

Escobar looked to be good, but they needed pitching, so I think that this is a good trade for the Sox.

[lambeauleap87]

Well of course...name one pitcher in the history of Major League Baseball who hasn't.

Any proven starting pitching you can acquire at this point in the season is vital to contending teams. Everyone and their mother knows this except the Tigers homer who is only poo-pooing it because it affects a division rival...

Liriano has proven to be dreadful more often than a lot of pitchers, though. Maybe someone will want Justin Masterson or Josh Tomlin. Anybody?

[IamRalpho]

They better be good prospects, Twins should have kept Franky and signed him to an extension.

This cant be a serious post, could it be?

[Homerun]

I don't know who will be knocked out of the rotation now. It seems likely that it would be Humber or Floyd. I'm hoping that it is Floyd.

[xbignick]

Some numbers:
Francisco Liriano (this year, versus career):
5.31 ERA, 9.81 K/9, 4.95 BB/9, 4.22 FIP, 3.94 xFIP, 4.64 tERA, 4.00 SIERA, 1.1 fWAR
4.33 ERA, 9.05 K/9, 3.74 BB/9, 3.69 FIP, 3.62 xFIP, 3.83 tERA, 3.68 SIERA

He's not dreadful exactly, but a rather eh move. I haven't watched the White Sox rotation much, but statistically they've been really solid, near the top of the league value-wise actually. Liriano's a free agent after this year, so that's a thing to note when weighing the deal, and a variable we're not aware of is who else was actually available.

I'm personally not a big fan of either prospect. One has a great glove but doesn't walk enough for me to fit his skillset, and the other is "okay," hasn't missed a lot of bats this year but fortunately walks few. Minor league line of: 3.42 ERA, 7.6 K/9, 1.6 BB/9, and spent most of his time in A and AA. The latter was ranked 14th on their top prospects, according to minorleagueball, coming into the season and the other didn't make the top 20.

[Homerun]

Some numbers:
Francisco Liriano (this year, versus career):
5.31 ERA, 9.81 K/9, 4.95 BB/9, 4.22 FIP, 3.94 xFIP, 4.64 tERA, 4.00 SIERA, 1.1 fWAR
4.33 ERA, 9.05 K/9, 3.74 BB/9, 3.69 FIP, 3.62 xFIP, 3.83 tERA, 3.68 SIERA

He's not dreadful exactly, but a rather eh move. I haven't watched the White Sox rotation much, but statistically they've been really solid, near the top of the league value-wise actually. Liriano's a free agent after this year, so that's a thing to note when weighing the deal, and a variable we're not aware of is who else was actually available.

I'm personally not a big fan of either prospect. One has a great glove but doesn't walk enough for me to fit his skillset, and the other is "okay," hasn't missed a lot of bats this year but fortunately walks few. Minor league line of: 3.42 ERA, 7.6 K/9, 1.6 BB/9, and spent most of his time in A and AA. The latter was ranked 14th on their top prospects, according to minorleagueball, coming into the season and the other didn't make the top 20.

Hernandez looked terrible against Boston. Escobar looked good at times, but I doubt that he will ever be a star.

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Hernandez looked terrible against Boston. Escobar looked good at times, but I doubt that he will ever be a star.

It's not really a game changer on either side, but if the White Sox feel he can help them, more power to them, didn't really give up anything that will seriously hurt them short or long term, most likely.

[Homerun]

It's not really a game changer on either side, but if the White Sox feel he can help them, more power to them, didn't really give up anything that will seriously hurt them short or long term, most likely.

Yeah, Liriano is a very inconsistent pitcher, but at times he can be very good.

[mnvikingstwins]

Some numbers:
Francisco Liriano (this year, versus career):
5.31 ERA, 9.81 K/9, 4.95 BB/9, 4.22 FIP, 3.94 xFIP, 4.64 tERA, 4.00 SIERA, 1.1 fWAR
4.33 ERA, 9.05 K/9, 3.74 BB/9, 3.69 FIP, 3.62 xFIP, 3.83 tERA, 3.68 SIERA

He's not dreadful exactly, but a rather eh move. I haven't watched the White Sox rotation much, but statistically they've been really solid, near the top of the league value-wise actually. Liriano's a free agent after this year, so that's a thing to note when weighing the deal, and a variable we're not aware of is who else was actually available.

I'm personally not a big fan of either prospect. One has a great glove but doesn't walk enough for me to fit his skillset, and the other is "okay," hasn't missed a lot of bats this year but fortunately walks few. Minor league line of: 3.42 ERA, 7.6 K/9, 1.6 BB/9, and spent most of his time in A and AA. The latter was ranked 14th on their top prospects, according to minorleagueball, coming into the season and the other didn't make the top 20.
He struck out 15 a few weeks ago and has had some other great starts, his bad starts really weigh down his numbers.

[Zeeck]

I like the move. The Sox didn't give up very much, and while Liriano hasn't been great this year, a guy like him has a chance to provide lightning in a bottle for them. He certainly makes a deep rotation deeper, making it easier to deal with injuries or if they need to shut down Sale for a start or two.

[oldgoldy97]

Terrible move for the Twins. Two dead-weight slobs for a serviceable starter. Liriano just needs to get his head on straight and he can be a solid number 2 starter.

[stumpfreeman]

Terrible move for the Twins. Two dead-weight slobs for a serviceable starter. Liriano just needs to get his head on straight and he can be a solid number 2 starter.

I'm with you goldy, I don't like the move. He showed signs of improvement this season. If they would have gotten someone decent for him, I would feel differently.

[Homerun]

I'm with you goldy, I don't like the move. He showed signs of improvement this season. If they would have gotten someone decent for him, I would feel differently.

Escobar seems pretty good for his age. He could end up to be a "piranha" for the Twins.

[TGutta]

Escobar seems pretty good for his age. He could end up to be a "piranha" for the Twins.

He's what we like to call in MN a "Twins type of player". All glove, no offense. The pitcher we got won't be anything more than a AAA Starter or possible reliever so I personally think this was a very dumb move by the Twins. If you are going to get crap for him just keep him until the end of the season. Give the fans something to watch. Sure he could give up 10 ER his next start, but he could also have 15 K's again and in a lost season that is still exciting to watch. Now all the Twins have are their "Soft-tossing strike throwers" who will be hit around all day. Dumb move.

[Homerun]

He's what we like to call in MN a "Twins type of player". All glove, no offense. The pitcher we got won't be anything more than a AAA Starter or possible reliever so I personally think this was a very dumb move by the Twins. If you are going to get crap for him just keep him until the end of the season. Give the fans something to watch. Sure he could give up 10 ER his next start, but he could also have 15 K's again and in a lost season that is still exciting to watch. Now all the Twins have are their "Soft-tossing strike throwers" who will be hit around all day. Dumb move.

I wonder if Scott Diamond will be the next to go. He actually has some value now.

[mdogg]

Thats a pathetic return for Liriano, even if he is a rental...glad my Brewers didnt get a deal done with Kenny for Greinke!!!!

[mnvikingstwins]

Twins should have just tried to get De Aza for Liriano, then Span would be more expendable.

[Homerun]

Twins should have just tried to get De Aza for Liriano, then Span would be more expendable.

That would of been an idiotic trade for the Sox. That would've never happened.