Just keeps getting worse for Wizards and John Wall

[WalterAZ31]

John Wall out eight weeks with stress fracture - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/20395756)

Wall is/was expected to make huge strides with full camp, and coming into his 3rd season. Team as well. Now Wall is out for first month or so of the season, and could hamper is one best quality......his speed

yikes

[suki24]

Another potential PG bites the dust. So hard to find explosive PGs made of steel like Westbrook.

[Fraser9698]

:(

At least they caught it early.

[suki24]

Also this is why you dont join fantasy leagues early because of news like this.

[IronMonkey415]

Some people out there actually join around this time?

[Imac7065]

I'm gonna get panned for this.. but I think Mario Chalmers is a top 5 PG now... he's never hurt, does everyhing asked of him, plays incredible defense.. and when needed.. puts up 25 point games.

This is just another reminder to me how valuable he is.

[suki24]

Some people out there actually join around this time?

Yeah, leagues has been up for a whole month now. Kinda silly really.

[suki24]

I'm gonna get panned for this.. but I think Mario Chalmers is a top 5 PG now... he's never hurt, does everyhing asked of him, plays incredible defense.. and when needed.. puts up 25 point games.

This is just another reminder to me how valuable he is.

You're what Skip Bayless calls Victim of the Moment. It's nice to have Lebron and Wade to make you look good.

[knicks_please]

I'm gonna get panned for this.. but I think Mario Chalmers is a top 5 PG now... he's never hurt, does everyhing asked of him, plays incredible defense.. and when needed.. puts up 25 point games.

This is just another reminder to me how valuable he is.

He's better than rondo rose cp3 deron Williams and Westbrook? And those are just the first five that popped into my head...Steve Nash...

Chalmers is a good player but let's be real here...

As for wall yeah that sucks but shouldn't be out for that long...

[pepsiporch]

You forgot pillsbury dough boy

Felton LoL

Knicks Savior

[jprk31]

sure you will be gooI'm gonna get panned for this.. but I think Mario Chalmers is a top 5 PG now... he's never hurt, does everyhing asked of him, plays incredible defense.. and when needed.. puts up 25 point games.

This is just another reminder to me how valuable he is.
Maybe top 10-15 point guard but not top 5. I mean he has the leagues MVP and Dwade plus Bosh so that makes his life on the court easy.

[knicks_please]

You forgot pillsbury dough boy

Felton LoL

Knicks Savior

Hah typical nets fan...but yeah Felton will be big for the Knicks this year - and not size wise lol...you seen him lately? Sorry to burst your nets fan bubble but he ain't fat...

[montej1695]

I'm gonna get panned for this.. but I think Mario Chalmers is a top 5 PG now... he's never hurt, does everyhing asked of him, plays incredible defense.. and when needed.. puts up 25 point games.

This is just another reminder to me how valuable he is.

Sorry ROLE PLAYER not Top 5 PG. Solid game, Top 15 maybe?

[MikeMamba]

I'm gonna get panned for this.. but I think Mario Chalmers is a top 5 PG now... he's never hurt, does everyhing asked of him, plays incredible defense.. and when needed.. puts up 25 point games.

This is just another reminder to me how valuable he is.

WOW lol.....

[JK8283]

You are high if you actually believe this. Solid player, but that's absolutely insane. Not even close.

[gamboooler]

I'm gonna get panned for this.. but I think Mario Chalmers is a top 5 PG now... he's never hurt, does everyhing asked of him, plays incredible defense.. and when needed.. puts up 25 point games.

This is just another reminder to me how valuable he is.

At least you've got enough moxie to say it. That's the only thing good I have to say about what you said, though. It's wildly off-base, at-best.

[UltimateDeron]

I'm gonna get panned for this.. but I think Mario Chalmers is a top 5 PG now... he's never hurt, does everyhing asked of him, plays incredible defense.. and when needed.. puts up 25 point games.

This is just another reminder to me how valuable he is.

Wow... Just... Wow.

[Imac7065]

For those who reacted the way I expected to my post....

1) Chalmers averages were HIGHER before Lebron.. so no his life isn't "easier".. I actually think he is suppressed by the talent on the Heat now.

2) We saw in the ECF that when he needs to take over.. he can, and will. He also has one of the most clutch shots in Basketball history under his belt (over D rose in college)

3) As a rookie he once got 9 steals in a game (Heat team record).. he's lethal defensively.. probably the best man to man defensive PG in the NBA right now

[Quigley24]

I'm gonna get panned for this.. but I think Mario Chalmers is a top 5 PG now... he's never hurt, does everyhing asked of him, plays incredible defense.. and when needed.. puts up 25 point games.

This is just another reminder to me how valuable he is.

I've always thought he was underrated, but you're overrating the heck out of him. I'd say Rose, Westbrook, Paul, Williams, Rondo, Irving, Nash, Jennings, Curry and Wall are better than him, with numerous more I'd say are just as good if not better too.

[knicks_please]

For those who reacted the way I expected to my post....

1) Chalmers averages were HIGHER before Lebron.. so no his life isn't "easier".. I actually think he is suppressed by the talent on the Heat now.

2) We saw in the ECF that when he needs to take over.. he can, and will. He also has one of the most clutch shots in Basketball history under his belt (over D rose in college)

3) As a rookie he once got 9 steals in a game (Heat team record).. he's lethal defensively.. probably the best man to man defensive PG in the NBA right now

1) he played more minutes per game, but if he did play the same minutes it would be about the same...he probably had the ball in his hand way less when lebron wasn't there - hence more inflated numbers

2) he played pretty good in the ECF but taking over might be a stretch...and having a clutch shot in college hardly makes you a top 5 position player in the league...

3) toney douglas hit 9 threes in a game (knicks team record)... enough said...
hes a good on ball defender but best on ball pg in the league?? he's not even close. i mean ...not even close...rondo? paul? rose? the heat play very good TEAM defense, which makes it easier for most players on the floor to do their job...

let me pose it to you this way would you take chalmers SERIOUSLY over any of these players?
Rose...Paul...D.Will...Parker...Nash...Westbrook...Irving...curry...rondo...lowry...conley...just to name a few

i mean chalmers is underrated, but imagine the heat with any of these players...

[hotbox]

For those who reacted the way I expected to my post....

1) Chalmers averages were HIGHER before Lebron.. so no his life isn't "easier".. I actually think he is suppressed by the talent on the Heat now.

2) We saw in the ECF that when he needs to take over.. he can, and will. He also has one of the most clutch shots in Basketball history under his belt (over D rose in college)

3) As a rookie he once got 9 steals in a game (Heat team record).. he's lethal defensively.. probably the best man to man defensive PG in the NBA right now

He's been good, but he hasn't proven that he's a top five point guard. To be an elite PG takes years, not one or two seasons.

[armyatc22]

It keeps getting worse for the Wizards and John wall???? No just the Wizards they cant catch a break

[GA0]

Why can't we EVER catch a break?? Outside of the Cavs, the Wizards is the most frustrating team to be a fan of in the NBA. Oh well, time to enter the AJ Price Era :(

[knicks_please]

Why can't we EVER catch a break?? Outside of the Cavs, the Wizards is the most frustrating team to be a fan of in the NBA. Oh well, time to enter the AJ Price Era :(

right now, its not so horrible being a cavs fan...kyrie will be / is a stud...got some quality young players...yeah right after they lost lebron im sure it was horrible...

[GA0]

right now, its not so horrible being a cavs fan...kyrie will be / is a stud...got some quality young players...yeah right after they lost lebron im sure it was horrible...

Almost forgot about Uncle Drew lol. So can I say that the Wizards is the most frustrating NBA team to be a fan of, bar none? LOL

[PatrickChewing]

You're what Skip Bayless calls Victim of the Moment. It's nice to have Lebron and Wade to make you look good.

I was about to agree, but by referencing a Skip Bayless quote, I cannot.

Skip Bayless is what I like to call a douche.

[AllStars2324]

I was about to agree, but by referencing a Skip Bayless quote, I cannot.

Skip Bayless is what I like to call a douche.

I'll never understand why Skip Bayless has a job

[knicks_please]

I'll never understand why Skip Bayless has a job

because he riles people up...classic heel lol...

[Shelden916]

Almost forgot about Uncle Drew lol. So can I say that the Wizards is the most frustrating NBA team to be a fan of, bar none? LOL

Try being a Kings' fan. :mad:

[gonygo]

heat fans love super mario...Aside from being super and probably being somewhere in the middle to end of the list of pg's i'd rather have on my squad, i'd say your comment isn't that bad...Just your opinion...

[knicks_please]

heat fans love super mario...Aside from being super and probably being somewhere in the middle to end of the list of pg's i'd rather have on my squad, i'd say your comment isn't that bad...Just your opinion...

i think pablo prigioni is a top 5 pg in the nba...just my opinion :)

[pepsiporch]

Another knicks fan dreaming .

Will the Knicks finish 500 this year ?

[knicks_please]

Another knicks fan dreaming .

Will the Knicks finish 500 this year ?

haha remember when the knicks were going to be able to beat the bulls in the playoffs??

the knicks put egg on your face because you were unrealistically hyping up that team and now you want to act like they cant beat anyone because you don't want to get caught with your pants down again:)! its rather comical, because its pretty obvious you're playing up the self loathing knicks fan angle for that very reason...


the knicks will most definitely finish above 500 this year, and im taking bets on that if you'd like to take it....i was joking about prigioni obviously.

[pepsiporch]

haha remember when the knicks were going to be able to beat the bulls in the playoffs??

the knicks put egg on your face because you were unrealistically hyping up that team and now you want to act like they cant beat anyone because you don't want to get caught with your pants down again:)! its rather comical, because its pretty obvious you're playing up the self loathing knicks fan angle for that very reason...


the knicks will most definitely finish above 500 this year, and im taking bets on that if you'd like to take it....i was joking about prigioni obviously.

Knicks are a laughing stock of the nba .
Felton is in shape I think lebron and co are worried about that one
I have knicks season tickets . Its a joke this team
Charles Barkley : The nba is for younger guys not older

[gonygo]

Knicks are a laughing stock of the nba .
I have knicks season tickets . Its a joke this team
Charles Barkley : The nba is for younger guys not older

solution =donate your tickets, thats not a joke and Barkley= a fat or skinny old joke...:)

[knicks_please]

Knicks are a laughing stock of the nba .
Felton is in shape I think lebron and co are worried about that one
I have knicks season tickets . Its a joke this team
Charles Barkley : The nba is for younger guys not older

why do you have knicks season tickets? if you actually have them...i say pic or its not true :) i got pix of mine...

IF you do, you should sell them for nets tickets, because you obviously got a little hurt because you were on the train last year and then they got hurt and that ended their chances, and your dreams....
Never said bulls are not good . They are not a elite team. Knicks can beat them in the playoffs . I think indiana has improved a lot this year and can beat them .

you were on it...

and not all the knicks are old, their starting line up is full of players in the prime of their careers...

[pepsiporch]

solution =donate your tickets, thats not a joke and Barkley= a fat or skinny old joke...:)

I won't donate my tickets because they cost alot and people come to the garden to see the garden not this disgrace

[knicks_please]

I won't donate my tickets because they cost alot and people come to the garden to see the garden not this disgrace

where are your seats?

[pepsiporch]

why do you have knicks season tickets? if you actually have them...i say pic or its not true :) i got pix of mine...

IF you do, you should sell them for nets tickets, because you obviously got a little hurt because you were on the train last year and then they got hurt and that ended their chances, and your dreams....


you were on it...

and not all the knicks are old, their starting line up is full of players in the prime of their careers...

Knicks have the older roster in the league .

where are your seats

I had seats since 2007

[pepsiporch]

section 114 and 400s row a

[knicks_please]

Knicks have the older roster in the league .

where are your seats

I had seats since 2007

are they starting any of those players?

like i said, every one of their starting five is in their prime. is that not true?

my seats are 103 row 9 (third row in section) seats 1 2 and 3.

im still calling BS on yours, but my boy sharay has seats in that section (114) so if you're there then i'll see ya because i go sit with him every now and then...do they even have row a's? i thought all the rows were numbers...they might up there but im not sure.

but seriously if you have tickets, you should sell them to get nets tickets.

[pepsiporch]

are they starting any of those players?

like i said, every one of their starting five is in their prime. is that not true?

my seats are 103 row 9 (third row in section) seats 1 2 and 3.

im still calling BS on yours, but my boy sharay has seats in that section (114) so if you're there then i'll see ya because i go sit with him every now and then...do they even have row a's? i thought all the rows were numbers...they might up there but im not sure.

but seriously if you have tickets, you should sell them to get nets tickets.

I would not buy nets tickets . I hate them because they attack the knicks . Its hard for me to get there . What row in 114 do you sit .

[knicks_please]

I would not buy nets tickets . I hate them because they attack the knicks . Its hard for me to get there . What row in 114 do you sit .

row 9 seats 6,7

where are yours?

[GA0]

Try being a Kings' fan. :mad:

They actually have a good nucleus with Isaiah Thomas, T-Rob, Cuz ,and Tyreke Evans. Unless you're talking about the Kings impending move lol.

[Imac7065]

1) he played more minutes per game, but if he did play the same minutes it would be about the same...he probably had the ball in his hand way less when lebron wasn't there - hence more inflated numbers

2) he played pretty good in the ECF but taking over might be a stretch...and having a clutch shot in college hardly makes you a top 5 position player in the league...

3) toney douglas hit 9 threes in a game (knicks team record)... enough said...
hes a good on ball defender but best on ball pg in the league?? he's not even close. i mean ...not even close...rondo? paul? rose? the heat play very good TEAM defense, which makes it easier for most players on the floor to do their job...

let me pose it to you this way would you take chalmers SERIOUSLY over any of these players?
Rose...Paul...D.Will...Parker...Nash...Westbrook...Irving...curry...rondo...lowry...conley...just to name a few

i mean chalmers is underrated, but imagine the heat with any of these players...

1) He almost never has the ball anymore.. Do you watch the heat at all? haha... he was the ball handler the first 2 years of his career.. since lebron came it's lebron or wade handling the ball. Chalmers has been turned into a "role starter" who focuses more on defense than anything when they are on the court.

2) As we saw in the ECF.. when Chalmers gets a chance to shoot.. he's just as good, if not better than a lot of the people you listed there. I've seen this guy play almost every game of his career on TV and in person... people's view of him is skewed by the team he plays for, and the fact that he's now the 4th or 5th option on offense. There's a reason the Heat stopped looking for a PG and cut Eddie House last year... Chalmers is that reason.

Can you tell me honestly if you had to pick a PG solely based on defense who you would take on that list OVER Chalmers? I know that's only half of the game.. but in Chalmers case, it's all we can judge him on.

[knicks_please]

1) He almost never has the ball anymore.. Do you watch the heat at all? haha... he was the ball handler the first 2 years of his career.. since lebron came it's lebron or wade handling the ball. Chalmers has been turned into a "role starter" who focuses more on defense than anything when they are on the court.

2) As we saw in the ECF.. when Chalmers gets a chance to shoot.. he's just as good, if not better than a lot of the people you listed there. I've seen this guy play almost every game of his career on TV and in person... people's view of him is skewed by the team he plays for, and the fact that he's now the 4th or 5th option on offense. There's a reason the Heat stopped looking for a PG and cut Eddie House last year... Chalmers is that reason.

Can you tell me honestly if you had to pick a PG solely based on defense who you would take on that list OVER Chalmers? I know that's only half of the game.. but in Chalmers case, it's all we can judge him on.

I mis typed on the first point obviously lol my bad. I meant he had the ball in his hands way less after Lebron...which would make that statement make more sense- him having better numbers with the ball in his hands...

Cut Eddie house? He sucks...chalmers is better than him for sure lol...he didn't have to do anything but spot up and play d...kind of like a 2 guard...

And honestly there are half those guards at least I'd put ahead of him defensively. You wouldn't take chris paul over him defensively? Rose too. Conley too. Rondo too...you can't honestly say you wouldn't otherwise I hate to say but you're wearing black and red tinted glasses :)

[Haiku]

I thought this maybe the year for him to have that break out season too..

[pastmyshades]

I'm gonna get panned for this.. but I think Mario Chalmers is a top 5 PG now... he's never hurt, does everyhing asked of him, plays incredible defense.. and when needed.. puts up 25 point games.

This is just another reminder to me how valuable he is.

Wow.

In no particular order...

Rose
Westbrook
Rondo
Williams
Paul
Nash
Lowry
Lawson
Jennings
Parker
Conley
Irving
Dragic
Lin
Curry
Rubio
Wall
Kidd
Holiday

All those guys are without question better then Chalmers. I would also say all these guys are on the same level or better then Chalmers...

Calderon
Felton
Kemba Walker
Devin Harris
Andre Miller
George Hill
Darren Collison
Stuckey
Jameer Nelson
Isiah Thomas
Jeff Teague



I would probably say Chalmers might be one of the worst 5 starting Pg's in the league. Playing with the big 3 makes life so much easier...

-James