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suki24
11-03-2012, 11:33 AM
Dallas went 0-4 to start in 06-07 and ended up 67-15. Miami superpowers started 9-8 and went all the way to the Finals. Once Lakers gel, watch out NBA.

vinsanity15
11-03-2012, 11:37 AM
It's all gunna depend on kobe and Dwight and if they can share the ball

Orangejello727
11-03-2012, 11:46 AM
Dallas went 0-4 to start in 06-07 and ended up 67-15. Miami superpowers started 9-8 and went all the way to the Finals. Once Lakers gel, watch out NBA.


When the bulls won under phil jacksons years, they started the year 0-3. Yet no one talked about them not winning a single game that year. Haters gonna hate!

When kobe, nash and dh12 start gelling and winning games the excuse will turn to something else. Pretty typical. Something like, the refs are cheating or games are rigged. LOL. It never stops. Then when that doesnt work, they try and turn the argument that the lakers are winning because of Shaq because he hasnt played for the lake show for years. If that doesnt work, juts throw your marbles on the floor and start talking about how the Lakers are winning because of the weather.

Vinny407
11-03-2012, 11:56 AM
The Lakers definately have the skill to win the title, but it all depends on Kobe and Dwight. I have a feeling that it's going to be a battle of the egos' all year for them and we all know how that is going to play out when one of the egos' is Kobe Bryant's. Their bench is pretty weak too and that's going to put a lot of strain on Bryant and Nash as well considering they are getting older. The season is young and the Lakers of course aren't going 0-82 but they have a lot of issues that need to be addressed if they're going to be competing for a title.

knicks_please
11-03-2012, 11:59 AM
Putting the jinx to the test on your own team?? Bold move indeed!

JK8283
11-03-2012, 12:02 PM
Yeah so lets just name the short list of exceptions and not reflect at all on what might be wrong with the team. To be honest, I thought this lakers team reminded me somewhat of that shaq/Malone/Payton/Kobe team which was great on paper and while they achieved some success getting to the finals, they were shredded by a good cohesive team in the Pistons. That said, the Spurs and the Thunder will be very tough outs in the west.

Also, generally if the OP on this post proclaims anything, you're pretty much always going to make money taking the other side of the bet lol.

patchgenie
11-03-2012, 12:02 PM
how is the lakers bench doing?

Quigley24
11-03-2012, 12:03 PM
They're not your Lakers. ESPECIALLY if your team was the Spurs last year, and you dropped them because they were "too old"!

sals_cardz
11-03-2012, 01:05 PM
this is how i see it, lakers need to can there head coach. they need to push tempo and get out on the fast break. stop this princeton offense bs. nash and kobe and pau and dwight on fast break is easy money. both bigman are decent speed good hands can finish at rim so can kobe spread nash out to 3 point line. easy. this princeton offense makes them look old and is bad for the 4 players imo. i almost forgot world peace. what does he do in this offense?

jeebus_86
11-03-2012, 01:12 PM
It's all gunna depend on kobe and Dwight and if they can share the ball

The Lakers definately have the skill to win the title, but it all depends on Kobe and Dwight. I have a feeling that it's going to be a battle of the egos' all year for them and we all know how that is going to play out when one of the egos' is Kobe Bryant's. Their bench is pretty weak too and that's going to put a lot of strain on Bryant and Nash as well considering they are getting older. The season is young and the Lakers of course aren't going 0-82 but they have a lot of issues that need to be addressed if they're going to be competing for a title.

This issue isn't Dwight and Kobe, they'll co-exist and be fine, right now, this issue is Mike Brown and his poor bench rotations. Our role players right now don't know what their roles are on the team yet, and it's because Mike Brown continues to mess up with the rotations. I mean, Jodie Meeks is supposed to be the guy that relieves Kobe, but yet he plays 0 minutes last night, and Mike Brown has Kobe play over 40+ on a bad foot. When our bench don't know what their roles are, they lose confidence, and when they lose confidence, they don't play with a sense of urgency or intensity, and when a team doesn't play with a sense of urgency, our defense suffers.

RandysHobby
11-03-2012, 01:29 PM
Id be worried hahah

Vinny407
11-03-2012, 01:37 PM
This issue isn't Dwight and Kobe, they'll co-exist and be fine, right now, this issue is Mike Brown and his poor bench rotations. Our role players right now don't know what their roles are on the team yet, and it's because Mike Brown continues to mess up with the rotations. I mean, Jodie Meeks is supposed to be the guy that relieves Kobe, but yet he plays 0 minutes last night, and Mike Brown has Kobe play over 40+ on a bad foot. When our bench don't know what their roles are, they lose confidence, and when they lose confidence, they don't play with a sense of urgency or intensity, and when a team doesn't play with a sense of urgency, our defense suffers.

Haha, one of the newer NBA trends. If the players aren't clicking, fire the coach. Players not playing defense, fire the coach. Bench players not producing, fire the coach. Player punches fire extinguisher glass after the game..........fire the coach. Dwight already has that "what more should I do look on his face" and he's probably looking for a nice place in Brooklyn at this very moment. Kobe has already said "It's not going to be good around here cause I'm not happy", and called his fan-base "stupid". This is about egos.

Orangejello727
11-03-2012, 01:41 PM
Haha, one of the newer NBA trends. If the players aren't clicking, fire the coach. Players not playing defense, fire the coach. Bench players not producing, fire the coach. Player punches fire extinguisher glass after the game..........fire the coach. Dwight already has that "what more should I do look on his face" and he's probably looking for a nice place in Brooklyn at this very moment. Kobe has already said "It's not going to be good around here cause I'm not happy", and called his fan-base "stupid". This is about egos.

If your bench players arent performing because they have 0 minutes of playing time due to the coaches decisions, who would you blame for that? The player for sitting on the bench? lol

If a player isnt performing or hurting team chemistry while given playing time, I can see a case for putting blame on the players. But still falls on the shoulder of the coach to understand this and change it up. Much harder to do with your franchise player, but that all falls on the coaches shoulder and they fully understand this.

thepinoymamba
11-03-2012, 01:48 PM
Yeah no worries. As long as they stay healthy and gets in the playoffs.
Then they will do damage in the playoffs.
The chemistry will kick in and the offense will come easy.
So no worries.

Vinny407
11-03-2012, 01:57 PM
Kobe, Nash, Dwight, Artest, and Gasol on the floor at once... I don't care what kind of offense they are running, they absolutely shouldn't look as bad as they do. I'll admit that the Princeton offense may not be the best choice, but I still can't stand the fact that todays NBA stars have no sense of responsibility when it comes to their teams. There's always a reason when things are going bad, but that reason is never them. I remember this one guy that used to play named Michael Jordan and all he wanted to do was win a title. He could've easily whined his way off the team or got his entire staff canned after if 1st few titles runs came up short, but instead, all he thought was "looks like I need to get better and do whatever it takes to make my teammates better". Nobody on LA will step up and take responsibility.

sals_cardz
11-03-2012, 03:36 PM
Kobe, Nash, Dwight, Artest, and Gasol on the floor at once... I don't care what kind of offense they are running, they absolutely shouldn't look as bad as they do. I'll admit that the Princeton offense may not be the best choice, but I still can't stand the fact that todays NBA stars have no sense of responsibility when it comes to their teams. There's always a reason when things are going bad, but that reason is never them. I remember this one guy that used to play named Michael Jordan and all he wanted to do was win a title. He could've easily whined his way off the team or got his entire staff canned after if 1st few titles runs came up short, but instead, all he thought was "looks like I need to get better and do whatever it takes to make my teammates better". Nobody on LA will step up and take responsibility.

lol, funny you say that. what happened to mia? all teams need time to gel sometiems the star power gel never happens. imo mike brown sucks at coaching and the style doesnt fit. meta doesnt fit either. doesnt score. good defender. thats bout it.

CP3toOKC
11-03-2012, 03:51 PM
Im pretty sure Kobe told the fans to shut up

Burt-Reynolds
11-03-2012, 04:07 PM
This issue isn't Dwight and Kobe, they'll co-exist and be fine, right now, this issue is Mike Brown and his poor bench rotations. Our role players right now don't know what their roles are on the team yet, and it's because Mike Brown continues to mess up with the rotations. I mean, Jodie Meeks is supposed to be the guy that relieves Kobe, but yet he plays 0 minutes last night, and Mike Brown has Kobe play over 40+ on a bad foot. When our bench don't know what their roles are, they lose confidence, and when they lose confidence, they don't play with a sense of urgency or intensity, and when a team doesn't play with a sense of urgency, our defense suffers.

yeah pretty much my sentiments exactly. brown needs to go too, he is horrible. he cannot run the starters 40+ every night and expect to ready and healthy for the playoffs.

i would like to see d'antoni come in. nash is comfortable with him, kobe respects him and has known him since he as a little boy. he made nash and amare unstoppable with his offensive schemes. imagine what he could do with nash and dwight? we are gonna be a mddle of the road defensive team anyway, might as well get all we can out of the offense, and brown is clearly not capable of extracting that from this squad.

also i get so angry when i see brown run out the bench players and as soon as they face some adversity and give up some buckets he starts freaking put and runs the starters back in immediately. i mean how do you expect your bench to play with confidence and cohesiveness if you are only giving them 12 minutes or less of burn a night. of course they're gonna play like sh!t if the coach has them on a short leash and they are worried about making a mistake and getting benched immediately. leave these guys out there on the island and let them learn to play together. it will be better off in the long run.

i hate brown so much. i'm not worried yet it is a long season, but i don't think brown is going to be able to do anything with this team. i read a fact that the lakers haven't won a 3rd qtr since may of last season. that is unreal, it clearly shows he has no ability to make adjustments in the middle of a game. he needs to go immediately

Nick Diaz
11-03-2012, 04:09 PM
Bench sucks, Nash is looking fragile, Kobrick back to his ball hogging ways instead of feeding Dwight, Terrible coach, and Steve Blake is your current point guard. Yea its time to panic.

Burt-Reynolds
11-03-2012, 04:15 PM
Bench sucks, Nash is looking fragile, Kobrick back to his ball hogging ways instead of feeding Dwight, Terrible coach, and Steve Blake is your current point guard. Yea its time to panic.

damn it you're right. i totally forgot that nash's leg fell off the other night. was the leg replacement surgery successful i haven't read the news lately? did he announce his retirement yet? kobe also only shot 23 times last night and scored 40 on 60% shooting, such a ball hog. dwight is not close to 100% but is still putting up great numbers, he was taken out of the game last night because of early foul trouble, and never fully got back into the flow, hence the reason he didn't touch the ball as much. hey it happens. about the only thing true or that makes any sense in this post is the terrible coach part.

MikeMamba
11-03-2012, 04:19 PM
This is what I think they should do.

Find a way to acquire a PG along the lines of someone like Ramon Sessions and have him start and move Nash to the bench so he can play his style with that bench.

Nick Diaz
11-03-2012, 04:30 PM
damn it you're right. i totally forgot that nash's leg fell off the other night. was the leg replacement surgery successful i haven't read the news lately? did he announce his retirement yet? kobe also only shot 23 times last night and scored 40 on 60% shooting, such a ball hog. dwight is not close to 100% but is still putting up great numbers, he was taken out of the game last night because of early foul trouble, and never fully got back into the flow, hence the reason he didn't touch the ball as much. hey it happens. about the only thing true or that makes any sense in this post is the terrible coach part.

I forgot to mention Pau looking broken dude has no confidence anymore. You also have to agree with the bench looking weak.

EMD34
11-03-2012, 04:30 PM
Edit............

Burt-Reynolds
11-03-2012, 05:26 PM
I forgot to mention Pau looking broken dude has no confidence anymore. You also have to agree with the bench looking weak.

no i don't, i have no idea what they look like because they have barely been allowed to play more than 20 minutes on the floor this season which is borderline insane. no bench can be successful if allowed that little time on the floor.

pau has also looked good, he played a hell of defensive game on blake and put a lot of effort in there which reflected in his offensive output, plus the coaching genius that is mike brown thinks it's a good idea to run pau 40 minutes a game on a back to back, so i don't doubt he might of been a little tired and burned out last night. pau isn't my favorite player but he is still a hell of a player. i would actually like to see him come off the bench for dwight and play center full time, and be the leader and anchor of the 2nd unit. let jamison start at pf to help space the floor for dwight more since he is a much better outside shooter than pau. pau had his most success as a laker playing center. look at our title runs with him he played the majority of the season at center with drew hurt.

look deeper into the game son, it's not all about reading the box scores the next day and forming your opinion. you say kobe ball hogged because you looked at his total and saw 40 points, so obviously he must of just dominated the ball and threw up a million shots, but you couldn't be more wrong. you see pau had a weak game, but also don't see how he held blake down and frustrated him into 15 pts, 8 boards and 4 to's.


This is what I think they should do.

Find a way to acquire a PG along the lines of someone like Ramon Sessions and have him start and move Nash to the bench so he can play his style with that bench.

delonte west is sitting on the wiaver wire. he's a head case but i think kobe pau and nash could keep him on track. he's what we need a dependable shooter, able ball handler and above average defender. he would be prefect and he can be had for the vet min.

i disagree about coming of the bench though. he needs to start and handle the rock more set up the offense and get that p-n-r going with dwight.

tristan20
11-03-2012, 06:12 PM
As predicted, a good PG will eat the Lakers. They are just too slow. Defense looks sluggish as hell.

As much as I am not a Griffin fan, he did get some crazy calls against him. They allowed Howard to hack away at him.

The fouls are killing them. Ron Artest taking so many stupid 3 pointers and dribbling the ball? What a brain dead idiot.

Howard cannot be averaging 5 fouls a game, its killing them

Gasol is way too good to not be used to his full potential, its ridiculous.

MikeMamba
11-03-2012, 07:25 PM
But Nash barley even handles the ball on offense when the starters are playing.
And the bench needs a ball handler that can get guys open.
And also he gets rest more. Nash can be out there if the game is close in the 4th.

Delonte West would be a god pick up.

ToppsCollector1
11-03-2012, 07:27 PM
Im not worried either. Worst start since like 1976 yes but its not so bad compared to other the way other teams have started. At least we know the Lakers will be going to the playoffs again like they do every year

nissandriver77
11-03-2012, 07:32 PM
Did people really think the Lakers would be conference champions with this team ?

Come on wake up people the lakers have no depth ( no Bench ) , Nash is ancient and Dwight as good as he is is not going to make this team superstar power like everyone thought.

Sometimes i wonder with all the crap talk on forums :rolleyes:.

As much as i would like to see them winning I believe it will be the same deal as last year 1st or 2nd round exit and that is if they even make it .

It's cool to dream but to try and turn dreams in to reality is another thing .

CP3toOKC
11-03-2012, 11:35 PM
This is what I think they should do.

Find a way to acquire a PG along the lines of someone like Ramon Sessions and have him start and move Nash to the bench so he can play his style with that bench.

Sessions did play with the Lakers last season though, but he opted out.

ljandkg
11-04-2012, 12:32 AM
I'm sure they'll be fine but to compare some team that started 0-3 and then did well isn't much use. It's just as easy to say the Charlote Bobcats went 1-2 in their first 3 games last year so the Lakers will have a worse record than them...

I know that won't happen but u can see how useless it is comparing records after 3 games...sure u can lose your first 3 and still do well but u can also win your first 3 and bomb out big time...