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go_steelers07
11-19-2012, 05:35 PM
brios8

didn't pay after a NPB case filed & a reminder message. Case has been closed.

do what you will. i have blocked him

EDIT: it was a $200+ order

jwiltz2072
11-19-2012, 05:37 PM
I may have 2 more names to add to that list in a few days.

duwal
11-19-2012, 05:52 PM
how long did you wait before you filed a NPB?

go_steelers07
11-19-2012, 06:00 PM
how long did you wait before you filed a NPB?

i have it set up for ebay to automatically file after day 4 and to close after day 8.........

so 8 days with no payment with 2 reminders.

he is a member on this board, so hopefully he shows up to explain. if it's legit, i will remove him from the blocked list.

Qwasian
11-19-2012, 08:13 PM
i'm waiting on an echeck payment from him to clear after filing NPB cases myself.......

doubledribble
11-19-2012, 08:31 PM
I've got a NPB alert submitted for him as well for a child's prism auto. Luckily only 13.50 but he has done this before. He is on here. I think he even posted yesterday.

sdoug76
11-19-2012, 08:34 PM
Is brios8 the eBay Id? When I try to block it says invalid id.

Qwasian
11-19-2012, 08:40 PM
yeah brios8

DannyShakes
11-19-2012, 08:40 PM
He's a active member on here I believe

sdoug76
11-19-2012, 08:41 PM
yeah brios8

Must be user error, worked after I tired it again. Thanks!

DannyShakes
11-19-2012, 08:42 PM
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/football/400227-rgiii-fake.html
Just posted yesterday

wheeler281
11-19-2012, 08:43 PM
I just bought a dwyer off him 4 days ago on ebay(had no idea he was a member here). He told me to wait til the end of this week to pay for he was tied up out of town on business

rauchand
11-19-2012, 08:54 PM
He hasn't paid for the Stephen Hill pink auto redemption he won from me. It's been almost 2 weeks. I got a message from him 4 days ago that he was waiting on payments and that he would pay soon or if I can't wait I could cancel the transaction. Now, he is not replying to my messages.

if someone gets 2 unpaid item cases, do they get booted from eBay?

sdoug76
11-19-2012, 08:57 PM
He hasn't paid for the Stephen Hill pink auto redemption he won from me. It's been almost 2 weeks. I got a message from him 4 days ago that he was waiting on payments and that he would pay soon or if I can't wait I could cancel the transaction. Now, he is not replying to my messages.

if someone gets 2 unpaid item cases, do they get booted from eBay?

No............

Qwasian
11-19-2012, 09:00 PM
im sure he has more than 2, he had 2 from me alone...... it's probably 10 for him just in this thread, lol

deltapi1049
11-19-2012, 09:02 PM
I am on the verge of filing two, after he purchased two cards from me and paid with an eCheck that has yet to clear. They have tried a number of times, but there are no funds in the account he paid with.

smackvay
11-19-2012, 09:14 PM
He hasn't paid for the Stephen Hill pink auto redemption he won from me. It's been almost 2 weeks. I got a message from him 4 days ago that he was waiting on payments and that he would pay soon or if I can't wait I could cancel the transaction. Now, he is not replying to my messages.

if someone gets 2 unpaid item cases, do they get booted from eBay?

WOW i just spit pop all over the place!!! That is some funny stuff right their!!!:)!:)!:)!:)!

gmsieb
11-19-2012, 09:14 PM
if someone gets 2 unpaid item cases, do they get booted from eBay?[/QUOTE]

LoL

Not even close. They aren't in the business of getting rid of buyers, they have every rule set up to protect buyers.

Years ago, ebay was pro-seller, but they started to lose buyers. They decided to go with the theory of, if you have buyers, you will have sellers. They have grown ever since and screwed sellers at every chance.

I have had the same buyer NPB 2 times in a month, my fault for not blocking him. Ebay did nothing. I watched him bid on other peoples stuff for weeks after. Ebay doesn't care about NPB. It's there to give fees back to sellers and try to make up for sellers, not being able to leave neg feedback.

Many of these NPB people are sellers on ebay, using a second acct to make purchases and not screw up the rep of their seller acct. They make bids or hit bins, and then watch the direction it heads, if up they pay, if down, they are gone. They do this with hot cases of bowman. Hit BINS on release and watch for a few days. I have talked to ebay about this, showed them the proof, and they have never stopped a guy from continuing to bid.



Gotta love ebay.

Right now, it's what we got.

smackvay
11-19-2012, 09:16 PM
+1 post of the day ^^^^^^

sdoug76
11-19-2012, 09:17 PM
OT but since you guys know eBay/pp. is their anyway to set it to not accept echecks? I hate those, take forever to clear and buyer always blames me for "slow shipping" despite the fact I send same day or next day after echeck clears.

Cardsnmore29
11-19-2012, 11:51 PM
For what it's worth he bought a Rueben Randle Chrome auto from me last Sunday...did not pay for 4 days..I messaged him and he quickly responded that he was awaiting payments from other sales before he could pay. I gave him an extension until today and he paid a few hrs ago.

HBMC
11-19-2012, 11:53 PM
OT but since you guys know eBay/pp. is their anyway to set it to not accept echecks? I hate those, take forever to clear and buyer always blames me for "slow shipping" despite the fact I send same day or next day after echeck clears.

No, be sure to mention that you won't accept that form of payment in your listing. I used to use eChecks until I linked my Debit card to my PP account. Helped out immenseley.

FLMARLIN
11-19-2012, 11:54 PM
I have now had (Officially, my third big NPB just closed) $1800 in non-paying buyers in the last 2 weeks. I am not a bulk seller or anything, just unlucky I guess. The items were the following prices

$350
$850
$500
$50
$50

Really disgusted by eBay.

xXdirtyjoeXx
11-20-2012, 12:02 AM
Surprised that Brios8 is a NPB. I always interacted with him on ebay, SCF, and on here and never had an issue.

Qwasian
11-20-2012, 12:02 AM
I think chrome is my last release i'll be selling for a while I actually didn't even buy as much as I usually would, it's just like everytime you sell 20 items, you have to file 10 cases it seems like..... it's getting way too out of hand, they are going to have to do something about it before too long, it's just getting crazy, and the people lying trying to use the system to steal cards is over the top as well. it's just like in every batch you got a stack of people doing it. you can't do a new product without having tons of issues.

HBMC
11-20-2012, 12:04 AM
I think chrome is my last release i'll be selling for a while I actually didn't even buy as much as I usually would, it's just like everytime you sell 20 items, you have to file 10 cases it seems like..... it's getting way too out of hand, they are going to have to do something about it before too long, it's just getting crazy, and the people lying trying to use the system to steal cards is over the top as well. it's just like in every batch you got a stack of people doing it. you can't do a new product without having tons of issues.

Makes me glad I don't try to rip & flip in high end. Not only are you out money, but great cards too.

#@#@#@#@ing scammers

msumarr54
11-20-2012, 12:57 PM
Bought my Doug Martin camo + Pead pink auto the day of release.....hasn't paid for either of those items.....was the second person to sell both items and now will miss the boat and have to relist.......some BS right there

burke23
11-20-2012, 01:07 PM
I love folks that, without asking, ask to wait to pay you until they receive payment. If you negotiate that in advance that is one thing, but to make that a practice when buying from strangers on ebay? Ridiculous. Have the money in hand when you bid, or don't bid.

chrisfaceoff
11-20-2012, 01:28 PM
Bought my Doug Martin camo + Pead pink auto the day of release.....hasn't paid for either of those items.....was the second person to sell both items and now will miss the boat and have to relist.......some BS right there

I had to do this to a base auto with the buyers name as "die slow". And I still had to wait eBay wouldn't close it. I listed it immediately anyway knowing this jerk wouldn't pay. I feel really bad for you guys. Big time

EricMetcalf21
11-20-2012, 10:48 PM
brios8

didn't pay after a NPB case filed & a reminder message. Case has been closed.

do what you will. i have blocked him

EDIT: it was a $200+ order

Hes always slow on me too, but never didnt pay. Alot of times he waits 7 days then echecks me. O well. He's not a bad dude imo

bazinga
11-21-2012, 10:09 AM
he is on this site????,,,,

saintsfan9
11-21-2012, 10:38 AM
he is on this site????,,,,

probably read this thread too

rauchand
11-21-2012, 10:47 AM
as soon as I made my post, he paid. Just wanted to let others know

HadWayTooMuch
11-21-2012, 12:38 PM
I blocked him anyway. Not worth the headaches. Thanks for the head's up!

msumarr54
11-21-2012, 12:39 PM
as soon as I made my post, he paid. Just wanted to let others know

still waiting on my payment.........READ THIS POST

doubledribble
11-21-2012, 01:23 PM
i got an e-check notification yesterday...

rojallad
11-22-2012, 10:19 AM
He won a Rueben Randle Tall Boy auto and has not paid yet. Opened case against him yesterday .

npbaker1
11-22-2012, 10:28 AM
He purchased 4 of my chrome cards on Ebay. Took a few days to send an e-check but I eventually got paid. It was a $240 dollar order.

go_steelers07
11-23-2012, 04:06 PM
Hes always slow on me too, but never didnt pay. Alot of times he waits 7 days then echecks me. O well. He's not a bad dude imo

never said he was a bad dude..........

he didn't pay after 8 days and two reminders (one being the NPB case).

there's ne reason to not message me about payment.... at the very least.

deltapi1049
11-23-2012, 07:18 PM
Been waiting on his echeck to clear, it failed today. I'm opening a case now.

doubledribble
12-04-2012, 09:42 AM
2nd attempt at an echeck failed today. Yet he still continues to post on this site.

calculusdork
12-04-2012, 09:57 AM
2nd attempt at an echeck failed today. Yet he still continues to post on this site.

And he has 22 cases of Topps Chrome FB.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/football/404880-alot-2012-topps-chrome-superfractors-have-been-pulled-but-4.html#post3723553

deltapi1049
12-04-2012, 11:47 AM
I opened and closed 2 NPB cases for him - a few more and he will be gone.

Sad it takes this much to get someone banned.

nflbackspace
12-04-2012, 05:08 PM
I'm stupid.

He won a Dwyer Topps Chrome red refractor RC from me. Payment was pending with the echeck on PayPal, but I decided to send the card anyway to avoid multiple trips to the post office. Briefly checked his feedback, figured I was safe with over 3k. He reassured me that payment would go through. Turns out it bounced as have many others.

Luckily it was a $10 transaction.

Don't trust echecks.

EDIT: payment made this evening; I appreciate the delayed effort, and hope brios8 can sort out his other transactions.

msumarr54
12-04-2012, 05:16 PM
I was just going to let this go, but if you sent a card and he hasn't paid, nor sent the card back, that speaks volumes to this guys moral character. He is always making excuses and trying to pass the blame onto others for attacking him. One is a mistake, two times is a trend, and now taking cards.. Your no better than a scammer and I hope your on many others block lists now.


Originally Posted by msumarr54
I hate useless drama. HATE it. But I hate being screwed over more. Hence why I'm taking this to a PM. I didn't start a thread calling you out. My only time dealing with you, you don't pay. You lied and said you would pay within a week. Others are having similar issues. You bought 22 cases of chrome yet can't pay for $160 worth of cards. My rep here and on eBay is flawless. I don't start useless drama, but I'm not the one who screwed up here. Like I said, pay up and bygones will be bygones. In the end, you cost me money. Make good on the deal and we're fine. My dealings with you have been negative and I haven't said anything that isn't true. In fact, in good faith, I'm not posting this, but PMing it too you. Prove me wrong. Paypal is -------. I'll post a glowing recommendation and leave positive feedback.

-Jim

Originally posted by brios8
Jim, I know.. I have been a seller myself and I do hate it as well when I am counting on some money to come in and then it doesnt..

thats why i dont like doing the same and understand, and I tried my best to make it work. But you couldnt wait for me any longer and i understand.

but then going on the forums here and trying to minimize my reputation is not good at all even though you are mad at me.

you already did hurt a couple of my sales here.. so there you go. you cost me like $575 if you want to put it that way. as I got an offer for 2 cases and then they backed out because of this.

plus I got my non paying bidders and some vibes from you.

but its ok, life goes on. plz just move forward and be positive, do great! its a nice fun-hobby dont let it be affected by my mistake. life will bring you some good things to you if you take your attention away from this situation.

sorry, best wishes

Ben

calculusdork
12-04-2012, 06:01 PM
I was just going to let this go, but if you sent a card and he hasn't paid, nor sent the card back, that speaks volumes to this guys moral character. He is always making excuses and trying to pass the blame onto others for attacking him. One is a mistake, two times is a trend, and now taking cards.. Your no better than a scammer and I hope your on many others block lists now.

My goodness.

doubledribble
12-04-2012, 06:55 PM
i think it's time to put him on blast whenever he posts now. he surely has seen this thread but hasn't taken the time to respond.