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Alldaydaley25
11-21-2012, 03:19 PM
Hello, I bought this cards a few weeks ago at a card show and I'm just not sure if its real. I know these are faked a lot so that's why I am unsure. Let me know what you guys think thanks!
http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t413/alldaydaley/29d5a420fe8b76332c2c53e4a8a3e099_zps353e7ad8.jpg

MikeWilliamsFan
11-21-2012, 03:22 PM
I don't see "certified autograph issue" on the card but I don't know if these have that or not

bradical
11-21-2012, 03:23 PM
Fake.

The real ones say 'Certified Autograph' on them.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/LESEAN-MCCOY-2009-TOPPS-ROOKIE-PREMIERE-AUTOGRAPH-AUTO-/00/s/NzI0WDEwMjQ=/$%28KGrHqNHJCkFBkpTmhiJBQZ9h2fqDw~~60_12.JPG

Alldaydaley25
11-21-2012, 03:28 PM
I know it doesn't say "certified autograph issue" on it but there's like 10 on eBay without it on it too and well know sellers are selling them. Could topps had made more like they did with contenders and forgot to put that on them?

MI Rob
11-21-2012, 03:31 PM
Tons of fake 2009 Topps Rookie Premiere autos. STAY AWAY!

Jackg1980
11-21-2012, 03:31 PM
I know it doesn't say "certified autograph issue" on it but there's like 10 on eBay without it on it too and well know sellers are selling them. Could topps had made more like they did with contenders and forgot to put that on them?

90% or more of these are fakes. It does not matter who is selling them. More then likely its fake.

bradical
11-21-2012, 03:33 PM
I know it doesn't say "certified autograph issue" on it but there's like 10 on eBay without it on it too and well know sellers are selling them. Could topps had made more like they did with contenders and forgot to put that on them?

Exactly, the actual pack-issued autographed ones are very rare and typically bring in some good money. Yours very well could have an authentic Shady auto on it, but it was not from a pack of cards.

These Topps Premiere Rookie cards were handed out by the thousands at the 2009 Rookie Premiere in LA. Then they were sold on eBay and people have been buying and forging autos ever since.

That's why you see so many without the Certified Auto tag on them.

IowaCubs1
11-21-2012, 03:37 PM
Gotta be fake.

lambeauleap87
11-21-2012, 03:38 PM
Faker than a three dollar bill.

Alldaydaley25
11-21-2012, 03:44 PM
Crap... Good thing I didn't pay a lot for it.

Alldaydaley25
11-21-2012, 03:45 PM
Exactly, the actual pack-issued autographed ones are very rare and typically bring in some good money. Yours very well could have an authentic Shady auto on it, but it was not from a pack of cards.

These Topps Premiere Rookie cards were handed out by the thousands at the 2009 Rookie Premiere in LA. Then they were sold on eBay and people have been buying and forging autos ever since.

That's why you see so many without the Certified Auto tag on them.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. I'm gonna contact topps and see what they say.

Alldaydaley25
11-21-2012, 03:46 PM
Also,Thanks for the help everyone!

Soonerfan65
11-21-2012, 08:10 PM
Yeah that's what I was thinking. I'm gonna contact topps and see what they say.

Good luck on that; i tweeted them about the Fake Peterson/Lynch i had about 3 weeks ago and even sent a pic and didn't hear back jack from them

Alldaydaley25
11-21-2012, 11:08 PM
Good luck on that; i tweeted them about the Fake Peterson/Lynch i had about 3 weeks ago and even sent a pic and didn't hear back jack from them

Try messaging them on Facebook, about a month ago I asked them about a damaged card I pulled and they messaged me back in like 3 or 4 days.

Soonerfan65
11-22-2012, 10:39 AM
Try messaging them on Facebook, about a month ago I asked them about a damaged card I pulled and they messaged me back in like 3 or 4 days.

Luckily the seller of the card is taking care of me; i just can't believe how badly Topps screwed those cards up for several years

Alldaydaley25
11-22-2012, 01:30 PM
Luckily the seller of the card is taking care of me; i just can't believe how badly Topps screwed those cards up for several years

Yeah it's a joke. You would think after they saw all the fakes they would change them. They just kept making them all the way up until last year without any serial numbers.

lambeauleap87
11-22-2012, 01:32 PM
Yeah it's a joke. You would think after they saw all the fakes they would change them. They just kept making them all the way up until last year without any serial numbers.

It's nice that they finally numbered them, but it did take them long enough. You'll even find a multitude of fakes that say "Certified Autograph" on them, so I wouldn't go by just that, either.

Alldaydaley25
11-22-2012, 03:06 PM
It's nice that they finally numbered them, but it did take them long enough. You'll even find a multitude of fakes that say "Certified Autograph" on them, so I wouldn't go by just that, either.

Yeah, your best bet is to just pull them your self now lol

JOEMLM
11-25-2012, 02:42 AM
99.9 percent chance of being fake
did the seller have several topps rookie premieres for sale?
if he did then yes for sure it is fake
do you have any other 2009 topps football cards? base is fine
many of the counterfeits are printed on cheaper paper stock
so if you hold each card on the top and bottom, then give a little bend to the card
they should both bend the same, sometimes the auto card will bend more, that means you have a counterfeit card with a fake auto
some of the counterfeiters did use the correct paper stock so this test will not work
also, these cards were handed out unsigned by the hundreds, scammers buy the unsigned cards and resell them with fake autos
thus they are not worth the risk of buying

Alldaydaley25
11-26-2012, 03:32 PM
99.9 percent chance of being fake
did the seller have several topps rookie premieres for sale?
if he did then yes for sure it is fake
do you have any other 2009 topps football cards? base is fine
many of the counterfeits are printed on cheaper paper stock
so if you hold each card on the top and bottom, then give a little bend to the card
they should both bend the same, sometimes the auto card will bend more, that means you have a counterfeit card with a fake auto
some of the counterfeiters did use the correct paper stock so this test will not work
also, these cards were handed out unsigned by the hundreds, scammers buy the unsigned cards and resell them with fake autos
thus they are not worth the risk of buying

He only had one. I tested it and its not very stiff, real bendy.

mrveggieman
11-26-2012, 04:00 PM
Yeah kind of like this:

B.J BYRON MULLENS ROOKIE TOPPS MCDONALDS ALL AMERICAN AUTO AUTOGRAPH ON CARD | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-J-BYRON-MULLENS-ROOKIE-TOPPS-MCDONALDS-ALL-AMERICAN-AUTO-AUTOGRAPH-ON-CARD-/180873192809?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item2a1ce1e569)

Alldaydaley25
11-26-2012, 05:15 PM
Yeah kind of like this:

B.J BYRON MULLENS ROOKIE TOPPS MCDONALDS ALL AMERICAN AUTO AUTOGRAPH ON CARD | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-J-BYRON-MULLENS-ROOKIE-TOPPS-MCDONALDS-ALL-AMERICAN-AUTO-AUTOGRAPH-ON-CARD-/180873192809?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item2a1ce1e569)

Lol Micky d's

pierrethomasfan
11-26-2012, 06:32 PM
Auto doesn't look real either. How much did you pay?

Alldaydaley25
11-26-2012, 10:32 PM
Auto doesn't look real either. How much did you pay?

20 bucks...