Whos to blame next for the Lakers losing?

[tristan20]

Coach blamed - Check
Howard Not shooting FTs - Check
Gasol - Check
Nash Injured - Check
Crowd booing their own team - Next

1-9 when Kobe scores 30 pts. Obviously there is your problem there.

Run the OFFENSE through Howard! :)!

[crazymj]

Lets just wait til Nash and Gasol are back first. There's no point judging a team when only 50% of the star power are playing.

[xavieronly1]

Coach blamed - Check
Howard Not shooting FTs - Check
Gasol - Check
Nash Injured - Check
Crowd booing their own team - Next

1-9 when Kobe scores 30 pts. Obviously there is your problem there.

Run the OFFENSE through Howard! :)!

They did keep giving the ball to Howard from 1st to 3rd quarter in low post. But Howard keeps "waiting" for double team to kick out. It is like he wants to play passing more than attacking the basket.

And besides, it is not like he HAS to kick out right at the second the double team. He can hold the ball and pass a second later, OR spin base line for layup (Shaq does it all the time) OR, even just drive through 2 defenders for and-one.

[1eyed_jack]

Coach blamed - Check
Howard Not shooting FTs - Check
Gasol - Check
Nash Injured - Check
Crowd booing their own team - Next

1-9 when Kobe scores 30 pts. Obviously there is your problem there.

Run the OFFENSE through Howard! :)!

please respond to my post in the other thread.

you know, the one where you flat out made up stats

[jbarnett83]

Don't panic Laker fans, Nash will complete you

[bdoody42]

I don't blame Kobe for them losing. It's a combination of things. Wrong coaching hire. They should have got Phil or Jerry Sloan.

Gasol so far can't function in Dantoni's system. He won't really adapt it for his players. It just stays the same.

They are horrible in transition defense. Artist is a shell of himself defensively. Jamison struggles guarding SF or PF spot.

[MikeMamba]

Bad defense
Jazz were hot

On to the next one...

I hope you were watching the game and not just went to go see the boxscore.

[tristan20]

Bad defense
Jazz were hot

On to the next one...

I hope you were watching the game and not just went to go see the boxscore.

Yeah watching the Lakers celebrate each basket while the Jazz flew down and scored on every Laker made basket. The Lakers are too slow to compete with faster teams.

They need a Verajao or Kenneth Faried, and I think Hill brings that. He just needs to get more playing time and less foul trouble.

[adiddy32]

Just got back for that amazing game! Jazz play TEAM basketball! I was listening to the radio station on the way home and Dwight said they are still getting used to each other, there's no way we could mesh this fast.... Really? Cause the Jazz had 3 starters that weren't on our team last year. Bottom line is the moral is low on the lakers.. Except for that loser cholo on the lakers bench. He's the most annoying player in the nba. Who is he? He waives his towel around and jumps and throws his arms yet never plays.. Alright I'm still pumped about the game.

[Burt-Reynolds]

Bad defense
Jazz were hot

On to the next one...

I hope you were watching the game and not just went to go see the boxscore.

he never does. that's why i just lol at him whenever he starts a laker or kobe hate thread. it just brings him joy in his sad life. let him have his fun.

[tristan20]

he never does. that's why i just lol at him whenever he starts a laker or kobe hate thread. it just brings him joy in his sad life. let him have his fun.

Truth offends. Stop the Kobe nut hugging, its Christmas season, Nutcracker time :flex:

[thecomebacker]

#1 Kobe hater right there. (dude probably got banged by Kobe from behind). I wonder if he's going to create a thread after every Lakers lost this season. I think we all know that Kobe is not in his prime anymore...tell us something that we don't know :rolleyes:


he never does. that's why i just lol at him whenever he starts a laker or kobe hate thread. it just brings him joy in his sad life. let him have his fun.

[MikeMamba]

"0-2 Lakers"

"What team has 52 FT's and lose"

"Lakers Nets"

"Lakers Orlando"

etc etc. Obviously down deep inside cares for the Lakers... I wonder who you are a fan of?

[puregreen5]

Kanter was the Jazz verison of Eric Bledsoe tonight. He beat the crap out of both Dwight Howard and Jordan Hill, when he was in the game.

[bettydaw1970]

i havent seen them too much ( used to see them all the time here on tv in vegas, they yanked them from prime/fsw-still get clips) but injuries, weak bench. chemistry and DEFENSE, seem to be the issues..

[bettydaw1970]

Kanter was the Jazz verison of Eric Bledsoe tonight. He beat the crap out of both Dwight Howard and Jordan Hill, when he was in the game.

bledsoe and crawford are absolute beasts off the bench for the clips..

[puregreen5]

bledsoe and crawford are absolute beasts off the bench for the clips..

I would give anything if the Clippers could trade Eric Bledsoe for Enes Kanter and Alec Burks. I wish the numbers could work! Back to dreamland! LOL!

[murrke03]

Don't blame Kobe! He's the goat!

Lol the jokes I hear on this site make me laugh.

[paul06901]

Lets just wait til Nash and Gasol are back first. There's no point judging a team when only 50% of the star power are playing.

The Kobe/Howard/MWP is one of the best individual player 3-man groups of any time in the league this year ... hands down.


You have the 2nd best player to ever play the game, a 7-foot freak athlete beast, and one of the top 5 best defensive experts in the league, who is also shooting lights out this year.


OFFENSE, REBOUNDING, DEFENSE ... check!






butttt ....


TEAM > INDIVIDUAL


The Lakers don't have a 'team' feel ... other teams play together, the way they should play. Plus, for all of Dwight's cockiness ... he really should be shooting 65%+ on FTs...

[Cheken]

Truth offends. Stop the Kobe nut hugging, its Christmas season, Nutcracker time :flex:

that made me lol but yet so true lol

[alexcampos]

The Lakers are just a BAD team right now.

9-12.....In the WEST!

Honestly, I still think they'll make the playoffs but I don't see much else.

[alexcampos]

Don't blame Kobe! He's the goat!

Bwahahaha!

Seriously, how ridiculous is it to call anyone other than MJ the GOAT!

[realreodeal]

Coach blamed - Check
Howard Not shooting FTs - Check
Gasol - Check
Nash Injured - Check
Crowd booing their own team - Next

1-9 when Kobe scores 30 pts. Obviously there is your problem there.

Run the OFFENSE through Howard! :)!

I am not a big Kobe fan but if he starts scoring less then who is going to pick up the slack. MWP? Duhon? Meeks? I don't think so.

Gasol is old and big men age faster than guards in this league. Howard is not going to carry an offense so who do you suggest be the primary scorer?

[fullmetal]

Team chemistry.

Even if one integrates the best of every part, the whole machine may fail to function as one. The LA complex believes that adding the highest star power will yield success.

Name the star power movies that lacked substance and failed.

[alexcampos]

Team chemistry.
BINGO!

No matter how much talent you throw together, if you can't gel then it just won't work.

See 2004 USA Olympics team for reference.

[murrke03]

It seems like kobe has been surrounded by the issue that if he has a huge scoring game his team usually suffers.

When did Jordan and the Bulls ever even have that problem?

[clipperboy24]

they aren't the Clippers

[pingbling23]

#1 Kobe hater right there. (dude probably got banged by Kobe from behind). I wonder if he's going to create a thread after every Lakers lost this season. I think we all know that Kobe is not in his prime anymore...tell us something that we don't know :rolleyes:

that wouldnt be the first time kobe has raped someone from behind, lmao. who would have thought at this time the bobcats and the lakers would have the same record????

[Kosmo Kards]

I've only watched them play 6-7 this season so far. They were impressive against the Nuggets on a friday night game, but the other games they just don't play well as a team right now. I'm not too worried yet but you have to think that the Lakers might end up only being the 4 seed, maybe even lower. Hope they can get it together. And playing through Howard isn't the answer.

[nateadams2]

individuals dont trust in their team. they need to have more team play they will put it together.

see new york knicks

[Kosmo Kards]

individuals dont trust in their team. they need to have more team play they will put it together.

see new york knicks

The Knicks have great team chemistry right now, but they have been together longer. My concern is that the Lakers might not get that this season. It took time with the Knicks.

[xavieronly1]

I've only watched them play 6-7 this season so far. They were impressive against the Nuggets on a friday night game, but the other games they just don't play well as a team right now. I'm not too worried yet but you have to think that the Lakers might end up only being the 4 seed, maybe even lower. Hope they can get it together. And playing through Howard isn't the answer.

You see how happy D12 and his teammates were after he hit the 3 pointer? That's how stupid the team is now. 3 pointer on blowout lead. And yet, they don't think how many games they lost.

[SK40]

It seems like kobe has been surrounded by the issue that if he has a huge scoring game his team usually suffers.

When did Jordan and the Bulls ever even have that problem?

Prior to their first championship it happened regularly. It was actually the primary reason they didn't win earlier.

[murrke03]

Prior to their first championship it happened regularly. It was actually the primary reason they didn't win earlier.

That may be true but Kobe has been surrounded with this his whole career. You can't say the same for Jordan.

[lb_sa]

1. Chemistry
2. Steve Nash

I don't think it was Mike Brown really, it was the two above all along imo.

[Gambit]

the coach and the players should be blamed..

[EricMetcalf21]

tonights answer will be


#1 Kyrie Irving

GO CAVS!

[Kosmo Kards]

It seems D'Antoni has too much riding on the health of Steve Nash as well. In his post game interview all he was saying is that we need Nash back. Well Nash is almost 39, tough to really count on him more than being a role player.

[1eyed_jack]

Stupid Kobe

Shooting 7-10 right now while the rest of the team is shooting 7-25

All Kobe's fault they are losing. What a bum

[Kosmo Kards]

Stupid Kobe

Shooting 7-10 right now while the rest of the team is shooting 7-25

All Kobe's fault they are losing. What a bum

Haha, I get the sarcasm. Kobe's been playing like a man on a mission this season.

[Orangejello727]

That may be true but Kobe has been surrounded with this his whole career. You can't say the same for Jordan.

Then why didnt MJ win any championships till the 90s? To think he didnt go through growing pains is being naive.

[Orangejello727]

Stupid Kobe

Shooting 7-10 right now while the rest of the team is shooting 7-25

All Kobe's fault they are losing. What a bum

Theyll find a way to knock kobe because his team mates can make shots.

I guarentee not one kobe hater will touch this question.

[murrke03]

Then why didnt MJ win any championships till the 90s? To think he didnt go through growing pains is being naive.

Is Kobe still going through growing pains?

Dude about to retire in two years and he's your goat but he's still got growing pains? Lol.

[PackAttack419]

is it just me or does anyone get the feel that dwight will never win a championship? he just doesnt seem to have that drive or aggression or killer instinct. he wants to have more fun as a celeb/star than a dominant basketball player IMO

the lakers are gettin embarassed tonight by the cavs. THE CAVS!

[1eyed_jack]

is it just me or does anyone get the feel that dwight will never win a championship? he just doesnt seem to have that drive or aggression or killer instinct. he wants to have more fun as a celeb/star than a dominant basketball player IMO

the lakers are gettin embarassed tonight by the cavs. THE CAVS!

I kind of agree.

As to his game, clearly he's a freak athletically, but honestly, he doesn't have much basketball sense. I can't tell you how many time he gets the ball in the post tries rolling to the basket and gets stripped because brings the ball so low. He's got to learn to keep the ball up high. Seems like common sense, but he rarely does it

[murrke03]

I kind of agree.

As to his game, clearly he's a freak athletically, but honestly, he doesn't have much basketball sense. I can't tell you how many time he gets the ball in the post tries rolling to the basket and gets stripped because brings the ball so low. He's got to learn to keep the ball up high. Seems like common sense, but he rarely does it

i've been saying it for years. dwight is one of the most overrated guys in the league.

he has basically no offensive game.

[1eyed_jack]

i've been saying it for years. dwight is one of the most overrated guys in the league.

he has basically no offensive game.

I agree. He's very mechanical, in that he doesn't seem natural at all.

[murrke03]

I agree. He's very mechanical, in that he doesn't seem natural at all.

and the sad thing is he has actually gotten a little better on offense then a couple years ago.

scary the lack of offensive game he's had as a big man in the league.

[bdoody42]

The year Howard and the Magic got to the finals was his best year. Teams always doubled him even though that isn't needed most the time. He would pass the ball back out and they would rotate the ball quickly until they found the me guy. Lewis,Hedo, and Nelson were all at there primes..

I am worried what will happen in a few years when Howard loses some athletic ability...

[Orangejello727]

Is Kobe still going through growing pains?

Dude about to retire in two years and he's your goat but he's still got growing pains? Lol.

If he doesnt retire in 2 yrs, will you? Atleast he didnt have to retire twice for an empty tank!!:)!:)!

[Kosmo Kards]

is it just me or does anyone get the feel that dwight will never win a championship? he just doesnt seem to have that drive or aggression or killer instinct. he wants to have more fun as a celeb/star than a dominant basketball player IMO

the lakers are gettin embarassed tonight by the cavs. THE CAVS!

Dwight Howard isn't that good of a player, especially offensively. He's the most overrated play in the league right now and the most overrated player since Shaq. He's got a lot of quit in him.

[bdoody42]

If he doesnt retire in 2 yrs, will you? Atleast he didnt have to retire twice for an empty tank!!:)!:)!

Lol I'm pretty sure that's not why he retired....

[Orangejello727]

Lol I'm pretty sure that's not why he retired....

Then tell us why? Gambling problems? lol Or his fathers death due to his gambling problems? before his first retirement he stated he was tiring. But I guess that doesnt count!

[bdoody42]

Then tell us why? Gambling problems? lol

Maybe gambling or perhaps to pursue a baseball career.... He did that didn't be?

[Orangejello727]

Maybe gambling or perhaps to pursue a baseball career.... He did that didn't be?

You really think it was to pursue baseball? Nothing to do with the NBA forcing him to take a break because it would project a bad image on the NBA and nike?

And how did baseball turn out? Good enough that he had to come back?

[murrke03]

If he doesnt retire in 2 yrs, will you? Atleast he didnt have to retire twice for an empty tank!!:)!:)!

Lol what does that have to do with what I said.

Oh right absolutely nothing. Way to try and change the subject when proven wrong. Whatelse is new? Hahahaha

[Orangejello727]

You said kobe will retire in 2 yrs. Did you call him up and ask him? Or just pull that one out of your hole?

[bdoody42]

You really think it was to pursue baseball? Nothing to do with the NBA forcing him to take a break because it would project a bad image on the NBA and nike?

And how did baseball turn out? Good enough that he had to come back?

Was quite a subject change... We are talking about current laker situation and you jump to something else....

Seems funny you hate on Jordan because he could only play minor league baseball. It's not easy to excel at two sports. Only a few have done it such as Deion and Bo.

You really want to talk about a players image? Neither Kobe nor Jordan are the best role models of the court.

[1eyed_jack]

Lakers defense is so horrible. Absolute breakdowns by their big men cost them the game tonight

[Orangejello727]

Was quite a subject change... We are talking about current laker situation and you jump to something else....

Seems funny you hate on Jordan because he could only play minor league baseball. It's not easy to excel at two sports. Only a few have done it such as Deion and Bo.

You really want to talk about a players image? Neither Kobe nor Jordan are the best role models of the court.

He never played pro MLB baseball. He played for a farm team that was ironically owned by the same guy that owned the chicago bulls. It was an easy pass.

You need to stop hating on kobe. I dont hate MJ. I love the guy. WOuld love to make a bet with him and bank on it. Dont get that mixed up with despising lemmings!

[murrke03]

You said kobe will retire in 2 yrs. Did you call him up and ask him? Or just pull that one out of your hole?

Kobe Bryant says he might retire in two years from Lakers, NBA (http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/10/08/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-retirement-cbs/1621555/)

Proven wrong again. 0-2 tonight.

[1eyed_jack]

Kobe Bryant says he might retire in two years from Lakers, NBA (http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/10/08/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-retirement-cbs/1621555/)

Proven wrong again. 0-2 tonight.

changed his mind a few weeks later

Kobe Bryant Saying He Wants to Play Until 40 Just Another Mind Game | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1397504-kobe-bryant-saying-he-wants-to-play-until-40-just-another-black-mamba-mind-game)

[MikeMamba]

No one on the Lakers shot over 50% except Kobe

Lets blame him for the loss again...

[alexcampos]

Ouch...

Another loss for the Lakers! (9-13)

And to the Cavs!

[murrke03]

changed his mind a few weeks later

Kobe Bryant Saying He Wants to Play Until 40 Just Another Mind Game | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1397504-kobe-bryant-saying-he-wants-to-play-until-40-just-another-black-mamba-mind-game)

So we all think? Haha

But it does prove that I didn't pull anything out of any hole.

Thus oj is still down 0-2.

[1eyed_jack]

Alrighty, Final stats

Kobe 16-28 57%

Rest of team 15-47 31%

kobe's fault!

[bdoody42]

He never played pro MLB baseball. He played for a farm team that was ironically owned by the same guy that owned the chicago bulls. It was an easy pass.

You need to stop hating on kobe. I dont hate MJ. I love the guy. WOuld love to make a bet with him and bank on it. Dont get that mixed up with despising lemmings!

I said Kobe wasn't the GOAT and you act like I a being a fool. If you believe Kobe is the GOAT that's fine. Just don't be surprised if the asylum comes after you.

[alexcampos]

Alrighty, Final stats

Kobe 16-28 57%

Rest of team 15-47 31%

kobe's fault!

Does it matter who's fault it is?

They're a bad team right now....13 loses already and it's not even mid-December!

[MikeMamba]

Does it matter who's fault it is?

They're a bad team right now....13 loses already and it's not even mid-December!

That was the point of this thread, read the first post, he is blaming Kobe for the Lakers losing...

[bdoody42]

He never played pro MLB baseball. He played for a farm team that was ironically owned by the same guy that owned the chicago bulls. It was an easy pass.

You need to stop hating on kobe. I dont hate MJ. I love the guy. WOuld love to make a bet with him and bank on it. Dont get that mixed up with despising lemmings!

He was paid to play baseball. I'm pretty sure that makes him a pro. Smh.

[1eyed_jack]

He was paid to play baseball. I'm pretty sure that makes him a pro. Smh.

In fairness, he only got on a baseball team because it was a marketing ploy. Anyone else with his talent would never have been signed.

[Orangejello727]

Kobe Bryant says he might retire in two years from Lakers, NBA (http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/10/08/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-retirement-cbs/1621555/)

Proven wrong again. 0-2 tonight.

You must have missed the part that says "one can never be sure"

So if doesn't retire in 2 yrs, will you?

[Orangejello727]

Alrighty, Final stats

Kobe 16-28 57%

Rest of team 15-47 31%

kobe's fault!

Post number 2 that will be ignored because it favours Kobe

[bdoody42]

In fairness, he only got on a baseball team because it was a marketing ploy. Anyone else with his talent would never have been signed.

Maybe your right but orangejello acted like he didn't do anything... He just sat at home and played Super Nintendo. I don't like people who don't think non bias and irrational.

[Orangejello727]

In fairness, he only got on a baseball team because it was a marketing ploy. Anyone else with his talent would never have been signed.

He didn't have to do anything. The owner of the barons gave him a roster spot. How many players do you know that get a roster spot without playing the game? Real pro alright.

[murrke03]

You must have missed the part that says "one can never be sure"

So if doesn't retire in 2 yrs, will you?

Back peddling much?

why did you ask if i pulled it from my whole?

oh thats right it came from the hole in kobes head... his mouth....

wrong again oj. good try. i know its been a tough night for you but keep trying

[Orangejello727]

Back peddling much?

why did you ask what hole i got it from? oh thats right it came from the hole in kobes head... his mouth....

wrong again oj. good try. i know its been a tough night for you but keep trying

Ready to play your game? Where does it say in that article that he defiantly will retire in 2 yrs? Huh?

[bdoody42]

Orange is a good trader on here it seems and I respect that....first and foremost this is trading site...

Just wish he could be rational... I am pretty sure most Kobe fans wouldn't argue he is the GOAT over Jordan.

[murrke03]

Ready to play your game? Where does it say in that article that he defiantly will retire in 2 yrs? Huh?

it doesn't but you tried to call me on making it up and pulling it out of my butt.

which i didn't. so once again you are wrong. keep the tally going.

and since you can't read. him retiring in two years has really nothing to do with the conversation. i merely just said it because i was PROVING that he is still in 'growing pains' as you put it 16 years into the league. and the same could not be said about jordan...

[hotbox]

It's LeBron's fault.









Had to :p

[tristan20]

When kobe takes so many shots it makes the rest of the team stagnant!

If you watch the game they got wide open drives to the lane, but what do they do? Pass it to Kobe. 42 pts 5 TOs 2 Assists? He basically gave back points on turnovers
On a bad team someone has to do the scoring, its the NBA

When the Lakers ran some offense through Howard they starting cutting into the lead.

Its a fact that the lakers lost 90% of the time when he shoots over 20 times a game.

Thats the problem! Lakers need to see that their stupid system isnt working! Quit crying about it and fix it. Cavs have a better system? LOL

Irving is a monster!

[tristan20]

It's LeBron's fault.









Had to :p

The Ghost of Lebron still haunts Kobe :)!

[Kosmo Kards]

So, how long before D'Antoni gets fired?

[bdoody42]

So, how long before D'Antoni gets fired?

Being back Bernie Bickerstaff!!!

[knicks_please]

i don't think d'antoni gets fired this year...definitely not before he gets a long run with nash. but i think that was a horrible coaching choice for the lakers, he is bad for the same reason brown was bad. he has ONE way of doing things, he can't adapt his coaching style to get the most out of the players he has. im sorry, but he's just not a good head coach. he's not the only issue there obviously, as he was only brought in because they have nash.

i didn't want to post in this thread because its obviously meant to get under lakers fans skin *see tristans other threads* but my disdain for mike dantoni led me to post lol...

[MikeMamba]

When kobe takes so many shots it makes the rest of the team stagnant!

If you watch the game they got wide open drives to the lane, but what do they do? Pass it to Kobe. 42 pts 5 TOs 2 Assists? He basically gave back points on turnovers

When the Lakers ran some offense through Howard they starting cutting into the lead.

Its a fact that the lakers lost 90% of the time when he shoots over 20 times a game.

Thats the problem! Lakers need to see that their stupid system isnt working! Quit crying about it and fix it. Cavs have a better system? LOL

Irving is a monster!

On a bad team someone has to do the scoring, its the NBA

Nope, when they got back in it, they decided to play some defense.

[tristan20]

Blamed poor Gasol. Now the dude is hurt emotionally

[tristan20]

Nope, when they got back in it, they decided to play some defense.

Actually it was the poor shooting of the Cavs, in the 3rd they went 1-12 at one point. Missing wide open shots and layups

But Kyrie carved them like a thanksgiving Turkey

[1eyed_jack]

When kobe takes so many shots it makes the rest of the team stagnant!

If you watch the game they got wide open drives to the lane, but what do they do? Pass it to Kobe. 42 pts 5 TOs 2 Assists? He basically gave back points on turnovers

When the Lakers ran some offense through Howard they starting cutting into the lead.

Its a fact that the lakers lost 90% of the time when he shoots over 20 times a game.

Thats the problem! Lakers need to see that their stupid system isnt working! Quit crying about it and fix it. Cavs have a better system? LOL

Irving is a monster!

On a bad team someone has to do the scoring, its the NBA

are you talking this year? Last year? Last time you made up stats out of nowhere so I'm not really sure what you're saying

[MikeMamba]

Actually it was the poor shooting of the Cavs, in the 3rd they went 1-12 at one point. Missing wide open shots and layups

But Kyrie carved them like a thanksgiving Turkey

I remember 2 shot clock violations... and a couple steals.

[tristan20]

are you talking this year? Last year? Last time you made up stats out of nowhere so I'm not really sure what you're saying

How old are you bro, because you found 4 games that they won when Kobe shot below 20 its like you found won the lottery! Still what 4-9? Does it make that much of a difference? Majority still RULES

[1eyed_jack]

How old are you bro, because you found 4 games that they won when Kobe shot below 20 its like you found won the lottery! Still what 4-9? Does it make that much of a difference? Majority still RULES

You're right, but when you make up a stat like 13-0 and it ends up being 9-4 you look like kind of an idiot

[tristan20]

I remember 2 shot clock violations... and a couple steals.

So they played defense in the 3rd then gave up in the 4th? :)! Cavs outplayed the Lakers end of story.

[tristan20]

You're right, but when you make up a stat like 13-0 and it ends up being 9-4 you look like kind of an idiot

Never made up the stat, found it online. So shoot me :rolleyes:

Add another one to the list Kobe shoots 28, lakers lose. Story of the Lakers

[1eyed_jack]

Never made up the stat, found it online. So shoot me :rolleyes:

Add another one to the list Kobe shoots 28, lakers lose. Story of the Lakers

I don't get you chief.

You throw out a stat of 13-0 when Kobe shoots under 20.

I do 5 minutes of research and tell you it's not true the record is 9-4, and then you say you found it online.

I'm sure you can find lots of made up stats online chief! Maybe you should start your own website with made up stats, that way you can cite a website when someone calls you

[tristan20]

I don't get you chief.

You throw out a stat of 13-0 when Kobe shoots under 20.

I do 5 minutes of research and tell you it's not true the record is 9-4, and then you say you found it online.

I'm sure you can find lots of made up stats online chief! Maybe you should start your own website with made up stats, that way you can cite a website when someone calls you

Bro relax, you honestly need to open that other eye of yours.

Its a mistake on one stat, get over it!
Go do some detective work and find out where I posted blotched stats.

Talk basketball and not stupid remarks on a blotched stat, find something worthy to say instead of preaching the same "Oh i found out it was 4-9 and not 13-0, I won, I won, I won"

[MikeMamba]

So they played defense in the 3rd then gave up in the 4th? :)! Cavs outplayed the Lakers end of story.

Of course they did, the Cavs won...

But you said Dwight got the Lakers back in it haha
In fact, I don't think Dwight made a FG in the 4th, and just 1 FG in the 3rd.

He did play pretty good on the boards though.

[1eyed_jack]

Bro relax, you honestly need to open that other eye of yours.

Its a mistake on one stat, get over it!
Go do some detective work and find out where I posted blotched stats.

Talk basketball and not stupid remarks on a blotched stat, find something worthy to say instead of preaching the same "Oh i found out it was 4-9 and not 13-0, I won, I won, I won"

Sorry chief, don't really feel like arguing with a 13-year old tonight

[tristan20]

Sorry chief, don't really feel like arguing with a 13-year old tonight

Yeah, dont take it personal. You got straight facts. Post them.

You wanna take shots at me, PM me and do it.

Its NBA Basketball, not Basketball Wives

:)!

[1eyed_jack]

Yeah, dont take it personal. You got straight facts. Post them.

You wanna take shots at me, PM me and do it.

Its NBA Basketball, not Basketball Wives

:)!

I gave you facts, you gave me guesses from websites you checked

[bdoody42]

Lakers have a lot bigger problems than Kobe. Even though every player and coach deserves some blame. Hre are my five biggest issues with the lakers.

1. Transition defense. With smash coming back this won't get any better.
2. Turnovers. When they make turnovers in the half court it lets the other team run. Hopefully Nash can help with this. I think he will.
3. Poor FT shooing especially Howard.
4. Not buying into Dantoni's system. They are playing too much Iso especiall Kobe and straight post ups. Has this ever been part of the system at previous stops in Dantoni's career? No. Nash should help with this as well if others buy into it.
5. How can Pau and Howard play together in this system? It seems clear thus far Dantoni isn't changing his system for this roster

[PackAttack419]

Yeah, dont take it personal. You got straight facts. Post them.

You wanna take shots at me, PM me and do it.

Its NBA Basketball, not Basketball Wives

:)!

this man's got the right idea

[murrke03]

guys kobe is just going through 'growing pains'. you can't blame him for losses.

when does nash come back?

[EricMetcalf21]

When kobe takes so many shots it makes the rest of the team stagnant!

If you watch the game they got wide open drives to the lane, but what do they do? Pass it to Kobe. 42 pts 5 TOs 2 Assists? He basically gave back points on turnovers

When the Lakers ran some offense through Howard they starting cutting into the lead.

Its a fact that the lakers lost 90% of the time when he shoots over 20 times a game.

Thats the problem! Lakers need to see that their stupid system isnt working! Quit crying about it and fix it. Cavs have a better system? LOL

Irving is a monster!

On a bad team someone has to do the scoring, its the NBA

Are you dissing Irving now? Do you know how much better he made HIS team tonight? You must watch cbs gametracker or something you need to watch the game and learn the game.

[tristan20]

Are you dissing Irving now? Do you know how much better he made HIS team tonight? You must watch cbs gametracker or something you need to watch the game and learn the game.

Oh it got mixed up.

The Irving comment was supposed to be at the end. I just re-read it and see why there was confusion lol

Irving was a Monster! And yes I watch games, almost all of them :)!

[tristan20]

When kobe takes so many shots it makes the rest of the team stagnant!

If you watch the game they got wide open drives to the lane, but what do they do? Pass it to Kobe. 42 pts 5 TOs 2 Assists? He basically gave back points on turnovers
On a bad team someone has to do the scoring, its the NBA

When the Lakers ran some offense through Howard they starting cutting into the lead.

Its a fact that the lakers lost 90% of the time when he shoots over 20 times a game.

Thats the problem! Lakers need to see that their stupid system isnt working! Quit crying about it and fix it. Cavs have a better system? LOL

Irving is a monster!


Fixed :)!:)!

[thepinoymamba]

Its David sterns fault...
It good that he is retiring...
He ruined The Lakers chance of Chris Paul.
For me he is to blame...

[kenny3011]

Its David sterns fault...
It good that he is retiring...
He ruined The Lakers chance of Chris Paul.
For me he is to blame...

The NBA were the owners of the Hornets so they had a say in the trade

[Burt-Reynolds]

lakers got problems, but kobe's offense isn't one of them. they would be competing with the wizards for worst record in the nba without him.

bottom line is the losses are a result of the most horrible, distgusting, rancid, vomit inducing, dogsh!t defense i have ever seen a nba team play bar none. also the turnovers are killing them too, but defense is this teams number one problem, and with the personnel they have i don't see anyway to cure it or improve it. this team just has too many old washed up players to play consistent solid defense. at least when nash comes back i expect the turnover problem to be cut in half almost immediately with him handling the ball almost exclusively. it will also cut down on kobe hero ball, which as much as i am a kobe fan i hate kobe iso's especially at this point in his career.

as far as dwight my patience is quickly wearing thin. i was never super gung ho about getting him, but was excited. i don't know if he is still hurting and not saying anything, but 3 months in i expect his conditioning to be there by now. it just looks like he isn't into playing with this team and looks like he is going through the motions. i'm not convinced he really wants to be a laker. i don't think he wants the pressure of carrying the ridiculous big man mantle that the lakers have established, i'm pretty sure he is not even capable of wearing any of these big mans jocks.

being a die hard laker fan it's hard to watch, but i just keep watching and hoping something will click and it will get better. hopefully nash can fix a lot but i'm not sure. it's damn frustrating though.

also when is kyrie's contract up? because the busses need to line up the brinks trucks in front of his house to get him. i would love to see that guy in purple and gold.

[bdoody42]

lakers got problems, but kobe's offense isn't one of them. they would be competing with the wizards for worst record in the nba without him.

bottom line is the losses are a result of the most horrible, distgusting, rancid, vomit inducing, dogsh!t defense i have ever seen a nba team play bar none. also the turnovers are killing them too, but defense is this teams number one problem, and with the personnel they have i don't see anyway to cure it or improve it. this team just has too many old washed up players to play consistent solid defense. at least when nash comes back i expect the turnover problem to be cut in half almost immediately with him handling the ball almost exclusively. it will also cut down on kobe hero ball, which as much as i am a kobe fan i hate kobe iso's especially at this point in his career.

as far as dwight my patience is quickly wearing thin. i was never super gung ho about getting him, but was excited. i don't know if he is still hurting and not saying anything, but 3 months in i expect his conditioning to be there by now. it just looks like he isn't into playing with this team and looks like he is going through the motions. i'm not convinced he really wants to be a laker. i don't think he wants the pressure of carrying the ridiculous big man mantle that the lakers have established, i'm pretty sure he is not even capable of wearing any of these big mans jocks.

being a die hard laker fan it's hard to watch, but i just keep watching and hoping something will click and it will get better. hopefully nash can fix a lot but i'm not sure. it's damn frustrating though.

also when is kyrie's contract up? because the busses need to line up the brinks trucks in front of his house to get him. i would love to see that guy in purple and gold.

I agree with a lot of the points you made.
Howard isn't a huge offensive threat which this team needs in this system because Pau is being rendered almost useless when playing. When Nash comes back it will help with some things, but not all.
Nash will help with cutting turnovers and running Dantoni's plays. He certainly won't help on the defensive end.

Arrest and Kobe are not the defenses they were before due to age. In the three lakers I watched this year Artest is often caught watching the ball and gets beat back door.

I think Kobe for sure does his fair share of the offense. As you can see tonight in an efficient effort. He is at fault for a good bit of the Lakers turnovers. The team as a whole makes lazy turnovers like Bryant's post past to Howard that was thrown like it was to a 7th grader. Bryant also doesn't seem to be interested in running Dantoni's sets. A lot of ISO

They need Nash to get back in a hurry because right how they have the worst two PG combo in the NBA.

Every player is at fault,must to varying degrees

[Kosmo Kards]

guys kobe is just going through 'growing pains'. you can't blame him for losses.

when does nash come back?

Looks like two weeks. Maybe Christmas day against the Knicks?

[bdoody42]

It's crazy how Nash was suppose to miss just about a week.... They need him to have Amy chance at trundling the season around.

[EricMetcalf21]

Oh it got mixed up.

The Irving comment was supposed to be at the end. I just re-read it and see why there was confusion lol

Irving was a Monster! And yes I watch games, almost all of them :)!

ok sorry I see now, yeah i pretty much got a mancrush on kyrie i had to defend him there. lol

[bdoody42]

ok sorry I see now, yeah i pretty much got a mancrush on kyrie i had to defend him there. lol

He is a good young player to have a man crush for. He was killing the Lakers PGs!!