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jmcburney
10-07-2009, 07:26 PM
Hi all. I'm new to this board, but plan to be an active participant. I'm currently a Power Seller and Top-Rated Seller with Ebay, selling nothing but sports cards. I'm sure this is not new to a lot of you, but I am being scammed by elssportscards out of Boston, MA, and wanted to know if anyone has the best advice on how to try and avoid getting my first negative feedback from this scam artist. He bought a lot of 6 Tom Brady rookie cards from me, and claims 4 have "excessive wear or damage to the corners". Absolutely not true, and regardless, there was also no mention of card condition in the item description.

Subsequently, I checked him out on Toolhaus, and found out the story on the guy. Any advice? I take pride in my feedback and the quality of cards I sell, and don't want this adolescent to ruin my Ebay experience. Thanks!
otmack2o
10-07-2009, 07:28 PM
Have you already offered him a full refund if he returns the cards? That is what I would try first.

P.S. Welcome to the site!
go_steelers07
10-07-2009, 08:02 PM
Have you already offered him a full refund if he returns the cards? That is what I would try first.

P.S. Welcome to the site!

yes, offer him a full refund if he returns the cards...... then go from there. tell him that you are very sorry that he is not happy with the cards, blah, blah, blah......
jmcburney
10-07-2009, 08:46 PM
That is what I have done thus far, but reading the threads on Toolhaus, he tends to keep the cards and then file a claim with PayPal and not end up paying. I'll keep my fingers crossed! Thanks!
nuggetsman28
10-07-2009, 11:02 PM
you can possibly try and get ebay involved and make him unable to leave feedback.
ebacardi2
10-08-2009, 08:05 AM
That is what I have done thus far, but reading the threads on Toolhaus, he tends to keep the cards and then file a claim with PayPal and not end up paying. I'll keep my fingers crossed! Thanks!

He can not keep the cards and get a refund through paypal. If he files a claim he must return the cards before a refund is given. He will either have to keep the cards.. no refund or return cards and refund will be given by paypal. Avoiding a negative is not good unless he is truly lying and keeps cards and moves on.
jmcburney
10-08-2009, 10:32 AM
He started by fishing for a partial refund of 20.00, he claims 4 of the 6 cards have damage and wear on the sides, absolutely not true. He does this all the time claiming damaged cards. We know that paypal almost always sides with the buyer in these cases although in the last 60 days he's made 50 negative feedback comments, some even about high shipping..don't bid if you don't like the shipping costs and that's what stars are for.

Anybody know the powerseller help#, ebay makes it impossible to find any phone numbers....
jmcburney
10-12-2009, 10:04 PM
I offered him a refund, no reply. He has now escalated to a full fledged claim with paypal. Now what???? Any words of wisdom???
stumpfreeman
10-12-2009, 10:51 PM
Judging by his feedback, you are screwed. Tell him to piss off and take the negative. Or swallow your pride and give him a partial refund. This guy is a sleezeball. He has found the tiny loophole in the system, refuses to send cards back and demands a refund or he will give you a neg. I feel for ya man.
IndySportsCards
10-12-2009, 11:14 PM
what is his ebay ID so I can block him?
JohnfromtheBay
10-12-2009, 11:36 PM
what is his ebay ID so I can block him?

I would assume it would be "elssportscards" judging from the title :p
IndySportsCards
10-12-2009, 11:59 PM
Yeah, that's what I assume too, just making sure.
papajim
10-13-2009, 12:44 AM
By his FB seems like he buys to have cards graded. If he don't get the grade he wants he complains.

For all that complain about S&H: If you buy a card and know what the S&H is when you buy it then complain S&H is high.

YOU ARE A JACKASS:devil:
jmcburney
10-13-2009, 08:28 AM
He can't complain about shipping, he paid 2.25 for six cards.

Anybody know how to contact ebay to complain about this guy???
248rayment4343
10-13-2009, 12:03 PM
thia guy needs to be blocked from everyone that sells on ebay i just went thru and read all the feedback he has left and 90 percent of it is negative!!!!!! everyone needs to block this guy!!!!!! i sent the guy a email and asked him why he was a scumbag!!
brett06
10-13-2009, 05:46 PM
thia guy needs to be blocked from everyone that sells on ebay i just went thru and read all the feedback he has left and 90 percent of it is negative!!!!!! everyone needs to block this guy!!!!!! i sent the guy a email and asked him why he was a scumbag!!

Keep us updated on his reply.
tattooelement
10-13-2009, 06:04 PM
Good grief, this person has left 264 negatives. Unreal.
nuggetsman28
10-13-2009, 06:33 PM
Good grief, this person has left 264 negatives. Unreal.

:eek:that is bad! BLOCKED
vatechhokiefan
10-13-2009, 06:38 PM
And sellers have to complain about him in positive feedback remarks. eBay gives the seller no power to expose scammers.
jmcburney
10-27-2009, 07:09 PM
He escalated to a claim, I ended up giving him a 20 partial refund as we all know paypal would have sided with him (the condition of the cards wasn't even mentioned in the description, they were prisitine when they left my hands) of course he still neg'd me big time....what a joke!

Check his feedback left for me "sportsfanatic1967".

Ebay of course could care less, I emailed them about his obvious and blatant scamming but they'll do nothing of course!
bja613
10-27-2009, 10:32 PM
so funny, that this is the reason that ebay supposedly got rid of negative feedback being left for buyers because they were being exploited for feedback. It is pretty obvious this guy is a scammer and eBay won't do a thing. :confused:
cardinalfan13
11-04-2009, 08:16 AM
Toolhaus ?
jmcburney
11-05-2009, 02:49 AM
Negative/Neutral Feedback left by elssportscards (http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=elssportscards&Dirn=Left+by&ref=home)

Toolhaus.org gives you more information than you can easily find on ebay, ebay doesn't make it easy to find out stuff like this.
Isles80
11-05-2009, 08:36 AM
Just reading this guys feedback left for others makes me cringe. This guy is the scum of the earth and obviously has been scamming decent sellers for a while. He goes into transactions KNOWING the shipping costs and then agrees to those terms when he purchases the item. Then leaves feedback and demands refund after he received the item (or pretends he never received his item!) It almost seems like he goes into the transaction looking for reasons to leave negative, and for ways to get the card for free and abuse the loophole in a shitty ebay system. I wish someone knew this guy so they could smack him around for a few days straight.
248rayment4343
11-05-2009, 02:24 PM
Just reading this guys feedback left for others makes me cringe. This guy is the scum of the earth and obviously has been scamming decent sellers for a while. He goes into transactions KNOWING the shipping costs and then agrees to those terms when he purchases the item. Then leaves feedback and demands refund after he received the item (or pretends he never received his item!) It almost seems like he goes into the transaction looking for reasons to leave negative, and for ways to get the card for free and abuse the loophole in a shitty ebay system. I wish someone knew this guy so they could smack him around for a few days straight.

yup this guy needs to be kicked in the face!!!!!!! or told to put his mouth on the curb!!!!