Heroes is next WEEK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[go_steelers07]

i love sporsts cards, but i am totally excited for Heroes next week. i bet there will be a lot of interest from buyers over seas. i think i'm going to limit my sales to the US. i don't want to deal with all of the hassels that come with shipping outside of the US.

[otmack2o]

I am hoping wax prices on this product pickup shortly after release!

[go_steelers07]

i am hoping wax prices shoot up like Star Wars 30th did. 2 weeks after release Satr Wars was close to $100 a box.

[Crash1207]

It's too bad though that there aren't new episodes of this being run on TV. I have a feeling that no new episodes since November and no new episodes on the horizon any time soon (due to strike) may kill some of the buzz and hype around the show and this product. I hope I'm wrong though.

[hockeyron]

Yeh I can't wait either ---
I got in really early at a very nice price from my longtime non-sports distributor (no disrespect towards Chris but I've dealt with this guy for 17 years )and I can't wait for this as well ...
Totally undecided right now what I'm gonna do with my 3 cases .... wondering if holding them for a couple weeks might be a good move ( IF I could keep my fingers out of them) but we'll see .... I've even debated about getting a few more cases from Chris but I think I'll wait to see how the breaks are or if Topps kept this limited or not ....

I think it'll be interesting to see what the autos go for ... this is kind of uncharted territory and the auto lineup is really stellar .... it's tough not to see Ali Larter included however it's one of the best lineups of autos I've seen with every auto being a major part of the show so there's really no scrubs in the auto lineup which does'nt happen that much .... alot of other non-sports auto lineups might have guest star autos but Topps has done a real good job getting pretty much all the major players ......

My guess on a 8 box case will be 5 sketches , 1 costume and 2 autograph cards and it'll be interesting to see if Topps SP's any of the autos ....

I also wish the show was currently running but from what I've seen/heard there are some real hardcore Heroes fans so I'm not to worried about that ...
I will sell to any country but I will not accept Paypal which I know will hurt but I'm not willing to take the risk ...... I'll offer credit cards direct so that might help but not throught Paypal ... and yes I think there will be ALOT of overseas buyers on this product ...
I think if this release does well that it'll bode well for Indiana Jones Heritage ...

ron

[Incarnadine]

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My guess on a 8 box case will be 5 sketches , 1 costume and 2 autograph cards and it'll be interesting to see if Topps SP's any of the autos ....



ron

From past experience TOPPS almost always short prints what would be considered the best autos in a non-sport set (think Carrie Fisher for every single Star Wars set she signned for, Kevin Spacey for Superman Returns, Samuel L. Jackson for Return of the Sith Widevision, etc.) so I'd bet my next paycheque Hayden's auto will be a tough pull, possibly the Milo and Masi too.

[pearljam_cubbies]

Has there been any announcements about how many autos/sketches/memorabilia cards per box? The closer this gets the more Im thinking of just flipping my case.

[Cubfan86]

It went from constent updates a few months ago to NOTHING now that the release is less than a week away.
I hope I get my cases close to release.

[Vintage Collector]

i am hoping wax prices shoot up like Star Wars 30th did. 2 weeks after release Satr Wars was close to $100 a box.

What are they now?

[tdkjlk]

about $46/box

[Vegemight]

Anyone else notice how Chris' case price has dropped over the last few days?

Now down to $350 per, or $325 each for two.

Demand not as high as expected, or did Topps hit the presses big time?

[VinnyH]

a post on the nonsportsupdate (http://nonsportupdate.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/955604453/m/9931098712/p/64) site shows the back of a pack with the stated odds:
Memorabilia Cards 1:44
Sketch Cards 1:86
Autographs 1:135

Seems like a legit scan of a wrapper.

Best to All,
Vinny

[otmack2o]

a post on the nonsportsupdate (http://nonsportupdate.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/955604453/m/9931098712/p/64) site shows the back of a pack with the stated odds:
Memorabilia Cards 1:44
Sketch Cards 1:86
Autographs 1:135

Seems like a legit scan of a wrapper.

Best to All,
Vinny

Thanks for the info Vinny. Expected inserts per case based on these odds yields:

Material 4.363636364
Sketch 2.23255814
Auto 1.422222222
TOTAL 8.018416725

[Chucky]

Anyone else notice how Chris' case price has dropped over the last few days?

Now down to $350 per, or $325 each for two.

Demand not as high as expected, or did Topps hit the presses big time?

A lot of releases go down just before live. Americana was at $2100 and then jumped after it hit the streets. I wouldnt read much into the price drop. I still think the autos and sketch cards are going to do great!

[Cubfan86]

Thanks for the info Vinny. Expected inserts per case based on these odds yields:

Material 4.363636364
Sketch 2.23255814
Auto 1.422222222
TOTAL 8.018416725

Can we assume with that breakdown that the Autos will command a pretty penny? I sure as heck hope so with only 1 per case.
Man it would be nice to pull a Hayden

[pearljam_cubbies]

man that guys 5 case break over there = ouch

[otmack2o]

man that guys 5 case break over there = ouch

link?

[frozenntimesports]

Already punted my 2 cases, made $150 profit. Not bad for swapping a mailing label.

[mwheeler27]

I think this is what was referred to earlier in this thread. This came from another board:

I just busted through my 5 cases. I will not post any pictures or anything, but the Claire patch costume is the hardest to get (I did not pull one) followed by the Claire Costume, then the Hiro shirt/Issac Shirt.

I pulled 8/11 autos. Missing Adrian Pasdar, Noah Gray-Cabey, and of course Hayden Panettiere. Have an extra of Sendhil. It should also be known that Hiros signature is prob going to tick some people off, just a little mark really. Also, Milo did not sign his entire name like the sample on the Topps site, he only signed Milo. I am a little let down by this. I definetly did not do well with my cases. My sketches were pretty awful, I only pulled two or three that were really detailed, and although Color is NOT the norm (I know) I did not pull a single color sketch. All of my sketches are for trade and will go up on Ebay to go towards the three missing autos and the impossible patch card. I will get scans up after the weekened, I do not want to tick anyone off by breaking the street date.

[pearljam_cubbies]

Yep that was the break I was talking about. Heres the link.




Heroes card set ?? - Topic Powered by eve community (http://nonsportupdate.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/955604453/m/9931098712/p/65)

[otmack2o]

I think I looked right past that as I was skimming for pictures. Thanks guys!

[kirkoff]

not sure how those types of early breaks will affect the case price. I was looking to pick up a case or 2 to hold and sell sealed in the hopes this would be something like star wars was as far as case prices going up.

[anythingu]

I think I looked right past that as I was skimming for pictures. Thanks guys!


http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r77/anythingu/MISCPICS/Heroes.jpg

Lawrence

[Incarnadine]

He did do a case by case break too:

Alright, here is my 5 case breakdown. Scans won't be up until Monday or Tuesday. For those wondering, here is my guess as to the rarity of the costume cards:

Claire Cheerleading Outfit Patch (0)
Claire Cheerleading Outfit (2)
Hiro's Shirt (2)
Issac Mendez Painting Shirt (4)
Hiro's Jacket (5)
Matt Parkmans Police Uniform (9)

EVERY COSTUME & SKETCH IS FOR TRADE FOR THE THREE AUTOGRAPHS I DID NOT PULL AND THE CLAIRE PATCH COSTUME

Case 1:
Matt Parkman Police Uniform Costume
Issac Mendez Painting Shirt costume
Claire Cheerleading Outfit costume card
Hiro Shirt costume card
Noah Albrecht HRG Sketch
Otto Differenbach Peter Sketch
Sendhil Ramamurthy as Mohinder Suresh Auto
Milo Ventimiglia as Peter Petrelli Auto


Case 2
Matt Parkman Police Uniform Costume
Matt Parkman Police Uniform Costume
Hiro Shirt costume card
Hiro Jacket costume card
Craig Rousseau Hiro sketch
Grant Gold Nikki/Claire sketch (cannot tell who)
Michael Duron Peter Sketch
Zachary Quinto as Syler Autograph


Case 3
Matt Parkman Police Uniform Costume
Matt Parkman Police Uniform Costume
Hiro Jacket costume
Issac Mendez painting shirt costume
Lord Hiro Sketch Card
Craig Rousseau Hiro sketch card (almost the freaking same as the one from case 2)
Jack Coleman as Noah Bennet Autograph
Masi Oka as Hiro Nakamura Autograph


Case 4
Matt Parkman Police Uniform Costume
Matt Parkman Police Uniform Costume
Issac Mendez Painting Shirt costume
Hiro jacket Costume
Paul Guiterrez Hiro sketch
Kevin Doyle Nathan Petrelli Sketch
Edward Pun Nikki Sketch
Sendhil Ramamurthy as Mohinder Suresh Autograph


Case 5
Matt Parkman Police Uniform Costume
Hiro Jacket costume
Issac Mendez painting shirt
Claire's Cheerleading Outfit costume
Edward Pun Hiro Sketch
Grand Gould Peter Petrelli Sketch
Joseph Booth Noah Bennett Sketch
James Kyson Lee as Ando Autograph

[mwheeler27]

Looks like a consistent 8 hits per case. Do you think you did pretty well with your cases? I don't know anything about this product.

[go_steelers07]

Looks like a consistent 8 hits per case. Do you think you did pretty well with your cases? I don't know anything about this product.

those are not his cases. it was someone's who posted on the non sports card site.

[mwheeler27]

those are not his cases. it was someone's who posted on the non sports card site.

Oh, ok. Thanks for pointing that out.

So...does anyone on here have an opinion on how he did with these cases? Good, bad, average???

[go_steelers07]

i'd like to see what the sketches look like before forming an opinion. i hope the autos sell very well.

[Incarnadine]

He didn't do great. He didn't get the Hayden auto which is the obvious #1 but he did get a Milo and Masi which I consider to be the 2nd and 3rd best autos. No Claire patch card either but I expect those to be at least 1 in 10 cases if not tougher. Where he crashed is the sketches, except for the Edward Pun sketches (he did 100, unless he did more that we don't know about yet) he got all higher numbered artists, 2 grant goulds (550), 2 Rousseau (no numbers but he usually does a lot), Albrecht (506), Duron (359, but at least his might sell for something), Booth (300), Dieffenback (353). It's a crapshoot but from 5 cases you'd expect at least 1 or 2 good and lower numbered ones. I guess the good ones will be loaded in my cases.:p

[go_steelers07]

NO, NO, NO......... the good ones are in my cases........lol.

i hope the bottom doesn't fall out on the Material cards. from the case break above, looks like topps inserted a ton.

8 Parkman shirt cards........:eek:

[Cubfan86]

[QUOTE=Incarnadine;31733]He didn't do great. He didn't get the Hayden auto which is the obvious #1 but he did get a Milo and Masi which I consider to be the 2nd and 3rd best autos. No Claire patch card either but I expect those to be at least 1 in 10 cases if not tougher. Where he crashed is the sketches, except for the Edward Pun sketches (he did 100, unless he did more that we don't know about yet) he got all higher numbered artists, 2 grant goulds (550), 2 Rousseau (no numbers but he usually%

[iam4car3]

I hope everyone that bought this product pulls some great hits. At first I thought about buying this or Americana the more I thought about it I decided to buy the American glad I did (group case break and I bought 1 case $1717.00 delivered flipped it the next day for $2250.00). I turned down 10 cases of heroes for under $300.00 a case but if you remember I also turned down Star Wars at a really cheap price don't remember what it was but it's in the star wars thread. I hope since I didn't buy any that it will shy rocket like star wars did. Good luck to everyone. :)!

[Incarnadine]

Well this looks like a product where the big hits will be BIG. Someone jumped the gun on the street date and listed cards already. The Hayden auto is barely out of the gate and is over $200 already. No Claire patch card yet but that should do nearly as well, and of course the really nice sketches (despite what we've seen we know they are out there;)) will do well.

[mwheeler27]

Someone jumped the gun on the street date and listed cards already.

Is there no honor among people anymore? Sellers that do this are taking advantage of every other seller that either cannot get the produt early, OR have the honor and integrity to wait until release like they are supposed to do.

I can tell you this...if I really needed a card badly, and there were very, very few of them, perhaps even only 1, I would NOT buy from a seller that cheated in this manner.

Am I missing something? Isn't this wrong?

[sidelinecards]

Agree with you wheeler...But the American way is all about the almighty dollar...heck with everybody else..Sad but true...

[mwheeler27]

There won't be an American way if we continue to cheat everyone in all facets of life. At least not an American way to be proud of. :(

[mdb92951]

Well this looks like a product where the big hits will be BIG. Someone jumped the gun on the street date and listed cards already. The Hayden auto is barely out of the gate and is over $200 already. No Claire patch card yet but that should do nearly as well, and of course the really nice sketches (despite what we've seen we know they are out there;)) will do well.

Found one in an e-bay store listed for BIN of $2400. None up for auction that I could find. The listing in the store says that there are between 10 & 20 made.

[Incarnadine]

Found one in an e-bay store listed for BIN of $2400. None up for auction that I could find. The listing in the store says that there are between 10 & 20 made.

The one in the store is one of the autographs given out at the Philly non-sport show, a number of cast members signed cards that TOPPS made for the philly show (on card autographs, not stickers) and they were given away bt random draw. There is one on the regular listings, try "heroes autograph" for the search. This one is a sticker auto and has a different picture. I've heard estimates of 50-100 made but that's just guesswork so far I think.

[Cubfan86]

Is there no honor among people anymore? Sellers that do this are taking advantage of every other seller that either cannot get the produt early, OR have the honor and integrity to wait until release like they are supposed to do.

I can tell you this...if I really needed a card badly, and there were very, very few of them, perhaps even only 1, I would NOT buy from a seller that cheated in this manner.

Am I missing something? Isn't this wrong?

I was pretty upset when I heard they were being listed already.
None other than the Bryan guy that the above 5 case break is from. I did post something about it on the Non-Card site about how since he decided to "list early" we will get an idea of what the cards are worth.
My only worry is by the time I get mine at the end of the week or so, are the costume cards even going to have any value?

And judging by his feedback he could care less what anyone thinks!!!!!!!!!!

[anythingu]

Is there no honor among people anymore? Sellers that do this are taking advantage of every other seller that either cannot get the produt early, OR have the honor and integrity to wait until release like they are supposed to do.

I can tell you this...if I really needed a card badly, and there were very, very few of them, perhaps even only 1, I would NOT buy from a seller that cheated in this manner.

Am I missing something? Isn't this wrong?

I've been bitching about this for years and the card companies really don't give a crap. If they did, all they would need to do is coordinate something with eBay and have one of their interns just troll the site for early listers and have eBay zap them.

Yes, I do get my product early, but I ALWAYS abide by the release date. You will never see me list any singles from a product BEFORE a release date on eBay. I just post on the boards so people get an idea of what the product looks like and what to expect from their breaks.

But yes, it's wrong and the people who do it know they're wrong, they just don't care because there are no reprocussions to their actions because the card companies are spineless.

Lawrence

[mwheeler27]

Lawrence,

I commend you for waiting until release date to post your Ebay auctions. I also enjoy seeing your breaks ahead of time. You provide a valuable service letting us know what the products are all about a few days before release. Thanks for being one of the good guys.

[scottiff]

Chris isn't shipping until tomorrow so Ebay should be flooded by the time we get our cards. It may be best just to box out or sell by the case.

[otmack2o]

Is UPS delivering/picking up today?

[scottiff]

Yes we are running like a regular day.