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BAMBAM
01-06-2013, 11:05 AM
Each team will be allowed two amnesty buyouts that can be used to terminate contracts after this season and next season. The buyouts will count against the players' overall share in revenues, but not the team's salary cap.

So who on your team is over paid and locked in long term ?

It's gotta be bye bye Bryz and his "humongous big" contract in Flyer land after this year. Maybe this will motivate his azz to play like he did for about 3 weeks late last year ? However, with his seemingly fragile psyche, he could be worse because he's worried about the money.:eek:

avjp87
01-06-2013, 11:41 AM
Each team will be allowed two amnesty buyouts that can be used to terminate contracts after this season and next season. The buyouts will count against the players' overall share in revenues, but not the team's salary cap.

So who on your team is over paid and locked in long term ?

It's gotta be bye bye Bryz and his "humongous big" contract in Flyer land after this year. Maybe this will motivate his azz to play like he did for about 3 weeks late last year ? However, with his seemingly fragile psyche, he could be worse because he's worried about the money.:eek:

How would Prongers contract work in to all of this? if it does at all.

howethegreat
01-06-2013, 11:44 AM
hjalmarrsson or however you spell his name needs to go

Cardstomper
01-06-2013, 01:36 PM
hjalmarrsson or however you spell his name needs to go

The Score in Chicago said Hossa and Montador.

I'm all for Hammer getting it tho, good shot blocker, nothing else.

AsInHowe
01-06-2013, 02:23 PM
Jordin Tootoo, immediately.

njbadapple
01-06-2013, 02:33 PM
Each team will be allowed two amnesty buyouts that can be used to terminate contracts after this season and next season. The buyouts will count against the players' overall share in revenues, but not the team's salary cap.

So who on your team is over paid and locked in long term ?

It's gotta be bye bye Bryz and his "humongous big" contract in Flyer land after this year. Maybe this will motivate his azz to play like he did for about 3 weeks late last year ? However, with his seemingly fragile psyche, he could be worse because he's worried about the money.:eek:

I COMPLETELY disagree with letting Bryz go, but I'll come back to that.


The best bet for us (Philly) would be for Pronger to stay on the LTIR and ride the contract out that way so it doesn't count against our cap, and use the amnesty buyouts for other players. Wouldn't be upset if they used one on Pronger though, if he really wants to retire & then keep him within the organization as a coach of some sort.

Now back to Bryz. Bryz was not the problem, it was the defense. Primarily Kubina, Lilja, and Carla. Two are gone, one is still on the payroll but not as a starter. Given the option, I'd use the amnesty buyouts on Pronger & if I HAD to use the second one, then either Timonen or Briere. Only reason being age & still receiving $6MIL+ a year when they don't play at that caliber anymore.

Bottom line, keep Bryz. Our defensive corps is much stronger now with the three fumbling idiots gone.

BostonNut
01-06-2013, 03:26 PM
No idea who the Bruins would use it on...

bookyyyyyy
01-06-2013, 03:44 PM
RICK DIPIETRO

To be honest they may not even buy out the contract, this way they would stay at the cap floor.

:facepalm:

nuccionino
01-06-2013, 03:46 PM
Jordin Tootoo, immediately.

He hasn't even played yet haha. Wings need someone to protect the superstars. McCarty was a huge factor in the 4 cups in 11 years. Plus he is only 1.9M..

Wings don't really have bad contracts (go figure haha). It is hard to say who.

GoJays
01-06-2013, 03:56 PM
Mike Komisarek and Tim Connolly are the two big ones on the Leafs.

Although I could go on with players the Leafs should get rid of.

Oilers1980
01-06-2013, 06:15 PM
Bye Bye Horcoff - hello new Captain (Hallsy?)

GoJays
01-06-2013, 07:12 PM
Bye Bye Horcoff - hello new Captain (Hallsy?)

Interesting. I figured Eberle would get the captaincy if (and when) Horcoff leaves town.

Can't really go wrong with either of them, though. Both local kids who'd make terrific captains.

nuccionino
01-06-2013, 09:08 PM
Interesting. I figured Eberle would get the captaincy if (and when) Horcoff leaves town.

Can't really go wrong with either of them, though. Both local kids who'd make terrific captains.

I agree with you.

BAMBAM
01-06-2013, 09:26 PM
I COMPLETELY disagree with letting Bryz go, but I'll come back to that.


The best bet for us (Philly) would be for Pronger to stay on the LTIR and ride the contract out that way so it doesn't count against our cap, and use the amnesty buyouts for other players. Wouldn't be upset if they used one on Pronger though, if he really wants to retire & then keep him within the organization as a coach of some sort.

Now back to Bryz. Bryz was not the problem, it was the defense. Primarily Kubina, Lilja, and Carla. Two are gone, one is still on the payroll but not as a starter. Given the option, I'd use the amnesty buyouts on Pronger & if I HAD to use the second one, then either Timonen or Briere. Only reason being age & still receiving $6MIL+ a year when they don't play at that caliber anymore.

Bottom line, keep Bryz. Our defensive corps is much stronger now with the three fumbling idiots gone.

I think the Flyers play in their own end was suspect from the forwards on back, especially in the playoffs. Some of that is Lavys attack first system which leads to some beak downs when all they need to do is chip the puck out instead of cycling backward and getting trapped. It also doesn't help that some guys also do a lot of puck watching in their own end.

That being said, Bryz hasn't been worth the mega deal they gave him because he doesn't seem like he cares enough about winning hockey games and I think the rest of the team noticed that as well. He had a lot of games where he looked slow and disinterested after a hot start which is why he got benched for the Winter Classic. He didn't really look like himself until his ridiculous run in March but then he was rather average again for large parts of the playoffs. I don't think he has a lot of support in the room because of his lack of intensity and commitment. I think he got comfortable after the Flyers gave him that big deal. Now that they Flyers can walk away after this year I'm hoping he gets his act together.

Kimmo is in the last year of his deal I believe so it won't be him. If anything they may try to extend him for another year or two at a cheaper price if he plays well this year. Briere I think has this year and next but I'd get out from under Bryz's deal if he doesn't play more like he did last March this year.

njbadapple
01-06-2013, 09:56 PM
I think the Flyers play in their own end was suspect from the forwards on back, especially in the playoffs. Some of that is Lavys attack first system which leads to some beak downs when all they need to do is chip the puck out instead of cycling backward and getting trapped. It also doesn't help that some guys also do a lot of puck watching in their own end.

That being said, Bryz hasn't been worth the mega deal they gave him because he doesn't seem like he cares enough about winning hockey games and I think the rest of the team noticed that as well. He had a lot of games where he looked slow and disinterested after a hot start which is why he got benched for the Winter Classic. He didn't really look like himself until his ridiculous run in March but then he was rather average again for large parts of the playoffs. I don't think he has a lot of support in the room because of his lack of intensity and commitment. I think he got comfortable after the Flyers gave him that big deal. Now that they Flyers can walk away after this year I'm hoping he gets his act together.

Kimmo is in the last year of his deal I believe so it won't be him. If anything they may try to extend him for another year or two at a cheaper price if he plays well this year. Briere I think has this year and next but I'd get out from under Bryz's deal if he doesn't play more like he did last March this year.

I could agree to this. I'll jump on the bandwagon driving Bryz out of town if he doesn't shape up the remainder of this year & start of the next one. I'd still be down for letting Briere go or signing for a new & cheaper yearly contract. I'd also be interested to see them shop him & a draft pick around for a young / mid-aged winger to see time next to Schenn / Coots since first line is a lock with Hartsy, G, and Voracek.

newton615
01-06-2013, 11:08 PM
No idea who the Bruins would use it on...

Marc Savard and Tim Thomas.

This wont happen though seeing as how we're repaying Savard for him giving up his ability to see light and hear loud noises. I think we're keeping Thomas and hoping for a comeback, even though Tukka will be firmly entrenched as the starter by then

howethegreat
01-06-2013, 11:38 PM
The Score in Chicago said Hossa and Montador.

I'm all for Hammer getting it tho, good shot blocker, nothing else.

montador would be a good one, i think hossa should stay though

gergs1134
01-07-2013, 12:30 AM
I could see the Wild getting a couple of seasons out of Parise/Suter and then destroying those contracts if things don't go well.

hairysasquatch
01-07-2013, 12:43 AM
I could see the Wild getting a couple of seasons out of Parise/Suter and then destroying those contracts if things don't go well.

You almost wonder if those 2 contracts are the main reason for this little wrinkle, no?

bassking511
01-07-2013, 01:04 AM
Mike Komisarek and Tim Connolly are the two big ones on the Leafs.

Although I could go on with players the Leafs should get rid of.

The whole team ;)

gergs1134
01-07-2013, 03:27 AM
You almost wonder if those 2 contracts are the main reason for this little wrinkle, no?

I think the changes in contract length and limitations on yearly fluctuations can be attributed. But overall I think the owners wanted it added for pretty obvious reasons.

solt0131
01-07-2013, 07:13 AM
Paul Martin. Ugh.

jayjay0122
01-07-2013, 10:18 AM
Rangers are definitely using the amnesty on Wade Redden.

Anybody think the Devils will amnesty Kovalchuk with his enormous contract?

ernieren
01-07-2013, 01:13 PM
I think the Bolts will buy out Vinny . Not sure who else would still hate to see Vinny go maybe buy out and resign?

ryanvas
01-07-2013, 01:21 PM
Anybody think the Devils will amnesty Kovalchuk with his enormous contract?[/QUOTE]

I hope not. His cap hit is reasonable. When he retires if his cap hit still comes off the books (not sure off all the new language) I don't see them using the amnesty on him.

Possibly on Volchenkov who has 4 years left.

bigbluecolt93
01-07-2013, 06:02 PM
Bottom line, keep Bryz. Our defensive corps is much stronger now with the three fumbling idiots gone.

Are you out of your mind? You really think the likes of Lilja, Schenn, Grossman, or whatever garbage third pairing defensemen the flyers are gonna throw into the rotation is an improvement over Carle or Kubina? Maybe Kubina, but it's gonna be a rough year watching the Flyers D this year. Mez is still injured too. A lot will bank on Schenn finally stepping up this year, but it's hard to ignore the fact that he was sometimes a healthy scratch on the leafs last year...

njbadapple
01-07-2013, 08:35 PM
Are you out of your mind? You really think the likes of Lilja, Schenn, Grossman, or whatever garbage third pairing defensemen the flyers are gonna throw into the rotation is an improvement over Carle or Kubina? Maybe Kubina, but it's gonna be a rough year watching the Flyers D this year. Mez is still injured too. A lot will bank on Schenn finally stepping up this year, but it's hard to ignore the fact that he was sometimes a healthy scratch on the leafs last year...

Lilja won't even be playing. If Lavvy has any sense, he'll be a healthy scratch. Carle wasn't as bad as Kubina or Lilja, true, but he was still a handicap anytime he was on the ice. Mez isn't injured anymore, he was supposed to be back playing in December sometime. Our defense is as follows:

Top 4 = Grossmann, Timonen, Meszaros, Coburn
Bottom 2, any combo of = L. Schenn, Gustafsson, Gervais, Lauridsen, Bourdon, Manning.

Mind you, L. Schenn had over 260 hits last year, more than almost anyone in the league, and by watching our defense and how the big players like Coburn and Grossmann refused to play physical, this would be a pivotal piece to the starting puzzle. My bets would be L. Schenn and Gustafsson for the bottom two. We are NOT lacking defensive propects either for the future to replace Timonen, and that's not even listing that Shayne Gostisbehere from the WJC.

pnft17
01-07-2013, 09:10 PM
Marc Savard and Tim Thomas.

This wont happen though seeing as how we're repaying Savard for him giving up his ability to see light and hear loud noises. I think we're keeping Thomas and hoping for a comeback, even though Tukka will be firmly entrenched as the starter by then

Thomas contract is up after this season and he is sitting out/retired, so Bruins don't have to pay him anything. So he isn't even possible.

Savard is on LTIR so he doesn't count against the cap anyways. So neither is even a option.

pnft17
01-07-2013, 09:12 PM
I could see the Wild getting a couple of seasons out of Parise/Suter and then destroying those contracts if things don't go well.

Highly doubt it. Both are young players and Wild aren't going to eat 60-70 million dollars to buy them out in a couple seasons.

gergs1134
01-08-2013, 04:07 AM
Highly doubt it. Both are young players and Wild aren't going to eat 60-70 million dollars to buy them out in a couple seasons.

I doubt it too, but if things don't go as planned I wouldn't put it past Leipold. According to what I saw, they wouldn't have to eat 60-70 pending them signing with another club. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

Axeldog15
01-08-2013, 12:46 PM
Marc Savard and Tim Thomas.

This wont happen though seeing as how we're repaying Savard for him giving up his ability to see light and hear loud noises. I think we're keeping Thomas and hoping for a comeback, even though Tukka will be firmly entrenched as the starter by then

no reason to buyout Thomas. He isn't playing so he isn't payed. Plus he has value at a trading level if he did come back

Artchie
01-10-2013, 04:08 PM
DP and GARTH SNOW!

Old Nap
01-10-2013, 04:58 PM
I really don't see any long term deals for the Ducks other than Fowler. Which if he stays under Niedermayer's wing, we won't want to get rid of him. No one else is signed beyond 2014-15. I am a little worried about Getzlaf and Perry. They are both UFA after this season. :(

nflfans4ever
01-10-2013, 05:44 PM
Gomez,Gomez and Gomez

duwal
01-10-2013, 06:38 PM
I COMPLETELY disagree with letting Bryz go, but I'll come back to that.

Now back to Bryz. Bryz was not the problem, it was the defense. Primarily Kubina, Lilja, and Carla. Two are gone, one is still on the payroll but not as a starter. Given the option, I'd use the amnesty buyouts on Pronger & if I HAD to use the second one, then either Timonen or Briere. Only reason being age & still receiving $6MIL+ a year when they don't play at that caliber anymore.

Bottom line, keep Bryz. Our defensive corps is much stronger now with the three fumbling idiots gone.


I agree with this. I was wondering what the OP was thinking when I was reading their post. The Flyers have a bottom 5 defense in the league as far as defensive players as a whole

bigbluecolt93
01-10-2013, 08:41 PM
Lilja won't even be playing. If Lavvy has any sense, he'll be a healthy scratch. Carle wasn't as bad as Kubina or Lilja, true, but he was still a handicap anytime he was on the ice. Mez isn't injured anymore, he was supposed to be back playing in December sometime. Our defense is as follows:

Top 4 = Grossmann, Timonen, Meszaros, Coburn
Bottom 2, any combo of = L. Schenn, Gustafsson, Gervais, Lauridsen, Bourdon, Manning.

Mind you, L. Schenn had over 260 hits last year, more than almost anyone in the league, and by watching our defense and how the big players like Coburn and Grossmann refused to play physical, this would be a pivotal piece to the starting puzzle. My bets would be L. Schenn and Gustafsson for the bottom two. We are NOT lacking defensive propects either for the future to replace Timonen, and that's not even listing that Shayne Gostisbehere from the WJC.

I see, but do you have any confidence in that top 4's ability to stay healthy? Grossman's knees are awful, Timonen's gonna play the most minutes and he'll be 38 soon, and Meszaros is just coming off an injury. One injury to any of them and I'm not gonna feel too confident with any of those bottom 2 defensemen taking a slot in the top 4