A massive trade I did today, thoughts?

[addicted36]

I agreed to a massive trade today. At first I didn't think I would do this and actually took me a few days to think about this. The more I thought about it the more I went back and forth to do it or not to do it. It was actually the hardest trade I've ever thought about doing. In the end I decided to do it.

I am getting these 5 Rookie Sam Bradford Autos and one 3 Color Patch card:

1. 2010 Certified #302 Sam Bradford JERSEY AUTO /299 RC
2. 2010 Donruss Elite Turn of the Century Autographs #163 Sam Bradford #'d /199
3. 2010 Rookies and Stars Crosstraining Materials Autographs #11 Sam Bradford JERSEY AUTO #'d /25
4. 2010 Topps Triple Threads Ruby #101A Sam Bradford JERSEY AUTO #'d /10
5. 2010 Topps Triple Threads Emerald #101B Sam Bradford JERSEY AUTO #'d /50
6. 2010 Topps Triple Threads Relic #TTR4 Sam Bradford MEM SER /36

Total BV: Is $540 but the /10 TTT Auto has no BV so obviously more then that

I ended up trading away these cards for those:

1. 2011 Panini Gold Standard Gold Leaf Rookies Materials Autographs Prime #1 Cam Newton #'d /25
2. 2007 SP Authentic By The Letter Autographs #BTLES Emmitt Smith
AUTO SER #'d to /15
3. 2007 Absolute Memorabilia Tools of the Trade Material Black Spectrum #150 Walter Payton MEM #'d to /50
4. 2002 UD Authentics American Authentics Level 1 #ST1PM Peyton Manning AUTO

Total BV on those is $590

Looking at past SV's I gave up $320 for $300 in SV.

Would you do that trade? I actually needed a couple of days to decide this one. One of the reasons I went and did it was because those are rookie cards and the cards I gave up weren't. Another reason I did this trade was because Sam Bradford is coming off his best professional season ever and I see the Rams on the rise. Also I did this trade because I figure it will be easier to get another Manning and Smith, but getting another group of Sam Bradfords like that would be impossible.

The reasons I was hesitant to do that trade is because I like Cam Newton, his end of the year winning streak was a good sign but it was against the worst teams in the league so I really need to see him beat some quality competition. Sam Bradford in 2 games last season didn't lose once to the 49ers, he also beat Seattle, and he beat RG3 and the Redskins when they were hot early in the season. One of the reasons I didn't want to do that trade was because of the potential short term boost to Mannings value if Denver should win the Superbowl but now that card only sells for about $50 so how high could it really go? Seemed like more hype then reality to me. And while the Emmit Smith is short printed and I never really liked where the Auto was located on that card so I will seek out another one.

The SV of the trade being loopsided doesn't bother me really long term. If I am right the upside of the Bradfords will be much higher then the upside of those Hall of Famers. The value of a HOF auto like those I can't really see increasing that much as quickly as the Bradfords could pop if they start off hot. Thing is it's never easy to let Sweetness, Payton Manning, Emmit Smith, and Cam Newton go.

So since I spent days going back and forth on this trade I want some honest opinions about it. Did I make the right decision? If you had this option on the table do you take this trade?

Below are the cards in question:

I gave up
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/alexladue/Hall%20of%20Famers%20and%20Retired%20Football/Picture43.jpg
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/alexladue/Hall%20of%20Famers%20and%20Retired%20Football/Picture46.jpg
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/alexladue/Hall%20of%20Famers%20and%20Retired%20Football/12-17-242.jpg
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/alexladue/High%20End%20Still%20Playing/368.jpg

I am getting these:
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/alexladue/sam16-1.jpg
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/alexladue/sam31.jpg
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/alexladue/sam39.jpg
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/alexladue/sam24.jpg
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/alexladue/sam4-2.jpg
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/alexladue/sam29.jpg

[TheBurg]

I would not have done it, only because I'd rather have a Payton, Peyton, Smith, and Newton than Bradfords'. So that's more personal opinion.

[SMHouston]

Personally no, but that's because I have nothing for Bradford as in want wise. You know the cards your trading will retain value as they are some of the greatest the game has seen where as Bradford....but in the end it's your trade and you need to be happy with it. If your not...or thinking twice..three times about it, it's because something doesn't sit right and you don't want to be sitting there 6 months from now going well wtf did I do?

[HaystaK760]

I agree with burg. That's just my personal preference though, business wise I dunno

[BearsFaninCltNC]

that person sighed relief to give up their bradford! I like him but he is going to be a bust!

[hche]

If you PC Bradford heavily or are gambling on Bradford, then it's fine. Personally, I would rather have the cards of a variety of players.

[jeg2315]

Certainly hedging on Bradford and the Rams, but it's not all that far-fetched in my opinion. Fisher has that team playing well especially on defense, and they are stocked with draft picks. Certainly in a better position than the Panthers and Newton I think.

If I was in your position, I probably would have done it as well. HOF stuff is stable, and down the road you can most likely get those cards back for where they're at now.

[boomersooner405]

If you PC Bradford and don't care too much about the either guys then I'd say yes, otherwise I would not have gone through with it. Like SMHouston said, the vets will just hold their value while Bradford is still fluctuating in his prices.

[Jackg1980]

I like the trade. You traded a no/low risk - low reward for a med risk - high reward.

[Astronix]

I like the trade. You traded a no/low risk - low reward for a med risk - high reward.

Agree, I would rather have the Bradfords. With all the draft picks they have coming their way in the next few years, the Rams can't help but to get better.

[bigbensbff]

I like the trade. The Peyton was kinda boring and im not a fan of those letter autos like the emmitt.

Bradford has a big year then you killed it. He starts to suck and you could still recoup most of the SV in the deal by selling then.

[matt roberson]

Agree, I would rather have the Bradfords. With all the draft picks they have coming their way in the next few years, the Rams can't help but to get better.

I concur with the two above me.... no risk no reward, in this trade you went med risk for a possible huge reward. And as stated before all those draft picks have to add up to a few big games, which is all you need to unload the SB's and upgrade what you traded away and still have cash to boot.

But I am a degenerate gambler so I might not be a good person to listen too.

[Alldaydaley25]

Whatever makes you happy:) I would have traded cards I didn't really care much about for PC Cards any day. Nice pickups!

[addicted36]

Thanks guys, suprisingly this thread went pretty much how the last few days in my head went...replies one, two, and three were all no's. Post 4 was the insanity I felt (Bust? He went 7-8-1 this year and threw for 3700 yards, 20+ TD's career highs! If he was a bust he would have busted out already instead of have his career best season and the Rams best season since 2006). Reply 5 is back to reality but a no. Reply 6 is the first yes. Reply 7 is another eh maybe no. Reply 8 is a yes. Reply 9 is a yes. Reply 10 is a yes. Reply 11 is a yes.

That my friends is

5 no's
1 crazy person
5 yes's

Just how my brains been since this was proposed to me. Fitting :)

[jlzinck]

What is your goal in the trade?

Are you looking for dollar signs? (I did laugh when you called a $20 cash difference lopsided)

Bottom line is that if I collected Bradfod I might do it. I don't so I would keep the 3 Hall of Famers

[FreeMan12406]

I wouldnt of done the trade either.

[SteelersRock245]

I don't think I could have done that trade, but if you're happy with it that's all that really matters.

[hche]

Thanks guys, suprisingly this thread went pretty much how the last few days in my head went...replies one, two, and three were all no's. Post 4 was the insanity I felt (Bust? He went 7-8-1 this year and threw for 3700 yards, 20+ TD's career highs! If he was a bust he would have busted out already instead of have his career best season and the Rams best season since 2006). Reply 5 is back to reality but a no. Reply 6 is the first yes. Reply 7 is another eh maybe no. Reply 8 is a yes. Reply 9 is a yes. Reply 10 is a yes. Reply 11 is a yes.

That my friends is

5 no's
1 crazy person
5 yes's

Just how my brains been since this was proposed to me. Fitting :)

After you put it this way, this is kind of funny! :devil:

[ima_do_me213]

I definately wouldn't have done it. The Emmitt and Walter will hold value, if Manning wins the Super Bowl that will sky rocket. The Bradford's ya I know he has his career highs this year but I don't see his cards going up anytime soon. I hope u PC Bradford

[mattDub5]

I would defenitly not have done that. I personally don't know why you are stacking up on Bradford, instead of holding onto cards of players that are much much better but your desicion.

[friarbolt]

It's fine, you are obviously looking to profit off the move which seems to be flying over the heads of people who are emphasizing how much better the guys you traded are than Bradford.

You knew that before you did the trade, only question really is whether Bradford can make you any money. Personally I don't think it's a very good bet unless he has a massive turnaround such as the Rams becoming a top tier team. But as slim as those odds are, the odds of that happening are greater than any of the cards you had spiking in value. They are what they are, you're taking a risk and you will either win big or lose big. Just a preference thing, personally I'm on your side unless those are big PC cards no point in staring at them while they stay the same. You turned it into something that can appreciate in value.

[pierrethomasfan]

I would not have done it, only because I'd rather have a Payton, Peyton, Smith, and Newton than Bradfords'. So that's more personal opinion.

Agreed I wouldn't want Bradford as the guys you have up have upside or were legends

[addicted36]

It's fine, you are obviously looking to profit off the move which seems to be flying over the heads of people who are emphasizing how much better the guys you traded are than Bradford.

You knew that before you did the trade, only question really is whether Bradford can make you any money. Personally I don't think it's a very good bet unless he has a massive turnaround such as the Rams becoming a top tier team. But as slim as those odds are, the odds of that happening are greater than any of the cards you had spiking in value. They are what they are, you're taking a risk and you will either win big or lose big. Just a preference thing, personally I'm on your side unless those are big PC cards no point in staring at them while they stay the same. You turned it into something that can appreciate in value.

Excellent point glad you understood my meaning. None of these were PC cards to me. While I liked the cards I gave up they weren't untradeable and I honestly just wanted to move them into something I believe will appreciate in value. Fisher is turning the Rams around. What team beat the Seahawks and the 49ers this year? The Rams. Appreciate your post!

[pierrethomasfan]

Excellent point glad you understood my meaning. None of these were PC cards to me. While I liked the cards I gave up they weren't untradeable and I honestly just wanted to move them into something I believe will appreciate in value. Fisher is turning the Rams around. What team beat the Seahawks and the 49ers this year? The Rams. Appreciate your post!

Good point! And if Bradford turns out to be the real deal, you're sitting on a gold mine. Other than the Cam, I don't really care for many that you gave up. Love Peyton Manning, but not that card lol

[IowaCubs1]

I'm not big on Bradford... Would have passed.

[The Madbacker]

I would have rather received Kirk Cousins cards instead of Bradford.

[addicted36]

I'm not big on Bradford... Would have passed.

No one was that big on Kaepernick or Cousins this year either, Sometimes getting those under the radar players can pay off. And its not exactly like other people aren't into Bradford too

Sam Bradford Rookie Auto Patch 8 10 2010 Triple Threads 101 Rams | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAM-BRADFORD-ROOKIE-AUTO-PATCH-8-10-2010-TRIPLE-THREADS-101-rams-/321035850716?pt=US_Football&hash=item4abf3a53dc)

[IowaCubs1]

Actually ....lol I have been huge on cousins all along haha. But yeah, they also weren't #1 picks..

Just don't see Bradford's stuff spiking. No offense. You asked for opinions, I just gave mine.

[addicted36]

None taken at all, I wavered back and forth on this trade as well lol

[addicted36]

And here is one trade I didn't waver on at all. 4 Demarco Murray Autos landed me this bad boy 1/1

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/alexladue/IMG.jpg

I love me some HOFERS :)

[ediii33]

I'm not big on Bradford... Would have passed.

No. You would have created a thread asking if you should pass.

[FreeMan12406]

No. You would have created a thread asking if you should pass.

And this my friends is called:

#WINNING

[friarbolt]

No. You would have created a thread asking if you should pass.

Golf clap for that one, very solid one-liner.

[IowaCubs1]

And this my friends is called:

#WINNING

................

[FreeMan12406]

Douche with a hashtag

So now you are resorting to name calling?

When have I ever called you names? Real mature...real mature.

[asujbl]

Ironic that the OP that asked this question is who he is and a fan of who he is...

Meaning I think he wins the trade if RGIII is hurt as bad as alot think he is hurt - because all of a sudden Bradford has the potential to have alot of talent around him going forward as those 900 picks they got are getting higher and higher...

If RGIII comes back at 90-100% of what we saw this year then I think he loses the trade.

Just funny to me.

[addicted36]

Ironic that the OP that asked this question is who he is and a fan of who he is...

Meaning I think he wins the trade if RGIII is hurt as bad as alot think he is hurt - because all of a sudden Bradford has the potential to have alot of talent around him going forward as those 900 picks they got are getting higher and higher...

If RGIII comes back at 90-100% of what we saw this year then I think he loses the trade.

Just funny to me.

Say what?

What does RG3 have to do with Sam Bradford outside of the Rams getting the Redskins first round picks for the next two drafts because they traded with the Redskins last draft allowing the Redskins to select RG3?

You think I lose this trade if RG3 comes back healthy? Why? We already know that the Rams didn't get 9000 picks from the Redskins, they got 2 first round picks and a 2nd round pick. The Redskins are picking in the 20s in 2013 and that's already established so what difference does that make? Unless your saying in 2014 with Cousins starting in 2013 that means the Redskins draft selection will be in the top half of the draft which no one knows that for certain yet. Cousins looked good beating the Browns in Cleveland didn't he? What shows you he is bad enough to be a bottom feeding QB next year?

Furthermore what suggests the Rams use those Redskins picks on Offensive players that benefits Bradford? In 2012 the Rams drafted many skilled position players like Chris Givens, Isiah Pead, Brian Quick, and Daryle Richerson. Givens and Richerson have already started showing they could play in this league. I am not certain the Rams will use the Redskins picks on offensive skilled position players this draft.

In closing your post has me confused as it's full of speculation and you find my post funny?

[asujbl]

Say what?

What does RG3 have to do with Sam Bradford outside of the Rams getting the Redskins first round picks for the next two drafts because they traded with the Redskins last draft allowing the Redskins to select RG3?

You think I lose this trade if RG3 comes back healthy? Why? We already know that the Rams didn't get 9000 picks from the Redskins, they got 2 first round picks and a 2nd round pick. The Redskins are picking in the 20s in 2013 and that's already established so what difference does that make? Unless your saying in 2014 with Cousins starting in 2013 that means the Redskins draft selection will be in the top half of the draft which no one knows that for certain yet. Cousins looked good beating the Browns in Cleveland didn't he? What shows you he is bad enough to be a bottom feeding QB next year?

Furthermore what suggests the Rams use those Redskins picks on Offensive players that benefits Bradford? In 2012 the Rams drafted many skilled position players like Chris Givens, Isiah Pead, Brian Quick, and Daryle Richerson. Givens and Richerson have already started showing they could play in this league. I am not certain the Rams will use the Redskins picks on offensive skilled position players this draft.

In closing your post has me confused as it's full of speculation and you find my post funny?

I can't believe you took that much time to write that post.

[addicted36]

I can't believe you took that much time to write that post.

I can't believe with your thought process you can actually operate a computer

[CrisCarter80]

thats one awesome aikman