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Timmyftblstar54
01-13-2013, 06:58 PM
Yes it's early, but never too early to look forward to the next season.

just heard on Green Bay news that these players are supposedly going to be gone...
Greg Jennings
Donald Driver
Jermichael Finley

There are rumors about Charles Woodson possibly retiring as well..

with that said what do they need to focus on in the draft? I think that it would be beneficial to spend the money on jennings and cut finley if the rumors are true. I think you could progress Tom Crabtree and DJ Williams in the TE spot.

With Nick Perry and Desmond Bishop coming back off of injury, I think that really sets the LB squad up good. I think that it would be beneficial for them to draft another CB/S...look what Casey Hayward did this season, I think they can do that again with another player..I think the D Line is good as well.

The offense in my opinion only needs a solid line..I have no doubts that the Packers will progress players in the offseason, they always do.

thoughts??

BostonNut
01-13-2013, 07:00 PM
IF Welker leaves New England, Green Bay is the only place I would want him to go. Does GB have the cap space for him?

friarbolt
01-13-2013, 07:03 PM
Gotta revamp the receiving core, I understand letting all those guys go but they need guys to replace them. At least a TE and another WR, I don't trust Jordy Nelson or James Jones to be an elite #1 option all the time.

Defense needs to be better, maybe some DB help the front seven is okay.

ChicoCheese
01-13-2013, 07:07 PM
Offensive line is #1 priority. No doubt. Don Barclay really stepped up this season, but we still gave up way too many sacks, knockdown, and pressures over all. Also, we didn't get those large running lanes either. We need help on all aspects of the O-line.

D as a whole is #2 priority. Linebackers are the exception. However, the secondary is VERY porous. We gave up WAY to many big passing plays to a lot of teams that just aren't that good. Blaine Gabbert looked like god vs. our DBs.

The D-line needs a more prominent pass rusher. Clay Matthews is amazing, not doubt but there needs to be more. Nick Perry I think WOULD have been great, but he got injured. He should be back, and that will be awesome but we don't want to rely on our linebackers bringing most of the heat. We need them in coverage for checkdowns and screens. We need a Jared Allen-type of force on the end to compliment BJ Raji in the middle. The more pass rush we have on the line, the better we can cover those Kaepernick-type of runs that happened to us last night.

freethrowtommy
01-13-2013, 07:12 PM
What I want:

Jennings in a franchise and trade to Miami for two 2nd rounders
Finley to stay another year
Driver retires
Woodson stays one more year
Get healthy
Draft good players
Win Super Bowl


Packers lost a lot of impact players on defense (Bishop, DJ Smith, Worthy, Nick Perry) and along the line (Bulaga) this year. I think if they get everyone back and stay healthy, they will be just fine. I think they found something in Harris and the line was starting to gel the end of the year with Barclay and EDS in there.

37Jetson
01-13-2013, 07:13 PM
Green Bay has some serious retooling to do in the offseason:

I would resign Greg Jennings as they need a #1 WR that can be counted upon. Jones and Jordy seem to function better as the secondary options.

The Offensive Line is a total mess as evidenced by the complete inability to run the ball this season. The secondary is equally as weak.

I am heading to Wisconsin tomorrow morning on a business trip and I fear all of the whining I am going to hear from Packers Fans.

freethrowtommy
01-13-2013, 07:19 PM
Green Bay has some serious retooling to do in the offseason:

I would resign Greg Jennings as they need a #1 WR that can be counted upon. Jones and Jordy seem to function better as the secondary options.

The Offensive Line is a total mess as evidenced by the complete inability to run the ball this season. The secondary is equally as weak.

I am heading to Wisconsin tomorrow morning on a business trip and I fear all of the whining I am going to hear from Packers Fans.

Don't agree.

I think a healthy Jones, Jordy and Cobb would be one of the best WR corps in the league. Jennings will be too costly to resign when they need to extend Rodgers, Matthews and Raji. If Finley sticks around and keeps his head from his anus, that is dangerous.

Draft another WR to stick in there... profit.

I think Ross will remove Cobb from returns if he can recover (mentally) from this last playoff game.

tolrobb
01-13-2013, 07:19 PM
Green Bay has some serious retooling to do in the offseason:

I would resign Greg Jennings as they need a #1 WR that can be counted upon. Jones and Jordy seem to function better as the secondary options.

The Offensive Line is a total mess as evidenced by the complete inability to run the ball this season. The secondary is equally as weak.

I am heading to Wisconsin tomorrow morning on a business trip and I fear all of the whining I am going to hear from Packers Fans.

I disagree with the majority of what you just said.

With Clay and Rodgers on the cusp of new contracts, the Packers do not have the cash to pay Jennings like a #1 receiver. Unless he gives a hometown discount, he's going elsewhere.

The offensive line needs tinkering, not retooling. The return of Bulaga and hopefully a healthy Derek Sherrod should help. I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers draft 2-3 guys for depth purposes and to push the starters.

37Jetson
01-13-2013, 07:25 PM
With one of the best passing games on the planet it is flat out inexcusable that the Packers cannot run the ball. The O-Line is a much bigger problem than you realize.

I do not fully understand the Packers' cap situation so maybe Jennings is a luxury. Without him the Packers will be less of a team in 2013.

The offensive line needs tinkering, not retooling. The return of Bulaga and hopefully a healthy Derek Sherrod should help. I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers draft 2-3 guys for depth purposes and to push the starters.

freethrowtommy
01-13-2013, 07:30 PM
With one of the best passing games on the planet it is flat out inexcusable that the Packers cannot run the ball. The O-Line is a much bigger problem than you realize.

I do not fully understand the Packers' cap situation so maybe Jennings is a luxury. Without him the Packers will be less of a team in 2013.

The Packers lost Benson, Starks, Alex Green and Brandon Saine. Not many teams can still run when you lose that many RBs. They were pretty much down to Harris and Grant yesterday. Granted, none of those players are superstars, but you can't expect to get any kind of consistency when you have a new back every week.

I don't think Green or Saine are any good and Starks can't stay healthy (he does play well when he is). Benson was a 1 year stop gap, who started out fairly well, however.

Harris might be a good answer if he can stay healthy. He runs hard and is small enough to hide behind lineman.

jamuser304
01-13-2013, 07:32 PM
Green Bay has some serious retooling to do in the offseason:

I would resign Greg Jennings as they need a #1 WR that can be counted upon. Jones and Jordy seem to function better as the secondary options.

The Offensive Line is a total mess as evidenced by the complete inability to run the ball this season. The secondary is equally as weak.

I am heading to Wisconsin tomorrow morning on a business trip and I fear all of the whining I am going to hear from Packers Fans.

I hope the Packers don't resign Jennings. Some team desperate for a WR will overpay for Jennings, and the Packers better not match it. Instead they can use the money elsewhere.

Timmyftblstar54
01-13-2013, 07:35 PM
I can see them getting rid of Jennings which I think is ok. they have enough other players that can step up and be that #1. nelson, jones, and cobb can be the guys. I'm sure the younger ones will step up too, they always do

tolrobb
01-13-2013, 07:36 PM
With one of the best passing games on the planet it is flat out inexcusable that the Packers cannot run the ball. The O-Line is a much bigger problem than you realize.

I do not fully understand the Packers' cap situation so maybe Jennings is a luxury. Without him the Packers will be less of a team in 2013.


Jennings missed the majority of the 2012 season, so I don't see how his absence will be such a detriment to the 2013 season.

The Packers inability to run the ball is somewhat exaggerated. They were middle of the pack in the NFL during the regular season in both attempts and average yards per game. Their stable of running backs is average at best. A Steven Jackson-like veteran or an early round rookie could answer the so-called running woes. The O-line is a much smaller problem than you realize.

Timmyftblstar54
01-13-2013, 07:38 PM
Jennings missed the majority of the 2012 season, so I don't see how his absence will be such a detriment to the 2013 season.

The Packers inability to run the ball is somewhat exaggerated. They were middle of the pack in the NFL during the regular season in both attempts and average yards per game. Their stable of running backs is average at best. A Steven Jackson-like veteran or an early round rookie could answer the so-called running woes. The O-line is a much smaller problem than you realize.

If you want my honest opinion, I think alex green can be the answer. I'm not a fan of Grant or Starks much. I think green has the ability to be a 20+ carries a game back

hitman1116
01-13-2013, 07:53 PM
Jennings will go somewhere. Jones and Jordy will pick up the slack and Cobb will be our Percy Harvin type player. Agreed though, will need another WR to use.

Draft will consist of O-Line, CBs, another WR, a TE, and a RB somewhere in the mix. Expecting 4 picks to be used on O-Line and Corners.

Off the books will be Benson, Jennings, and Driver. We'll cut Finley. Woodson may retire and who knows maybe Saturday also.

And I don't know why but I feel like Reggie Bush would be a great back to get. He would fit well in the passing game. I know we wouldn't sign him but he would just seem to fit I think.

Timmyftblstar54
01-13-2013, 07:55 PM
You can bet I'll be at the first training camp of the year to see the new roster...anybody else go?

Powell7db
01-13-2013, 07:58 PM
You can bet I'll be at the first training camp of the year to see the new roster...anybody else go?

always try, however my 2nd child is due July 30th so it might be tough this year...

lambeauleap87
01-13-2013, 07:59 PM
As much as I like Jennings, he's replaceable. He's had some great seasons in Green Bay, but Jones, Nelson, Cobb, etc. can hold down the fort. I'm sure TT has his eye on a few receivers in the Draft, too. Feel the same way about Finley, as well.

I'd like to see Sherrod and Bulaga back healthy so that Newhouse can never see the field again. Depth on the interior line would be welcome addition since Saturday should be gone.

Some holes in the defense will be addressed with Nick Perry and Desmond Bishop returning next year. If anything, I'd like another addition in the secondary. And a new defensive coordinator.

hitman1116
01-13-2013, 08:00 PM
You can bet I'll be at the first training camp of the year to see the new roster...anybody else go?

Went when I was a kid a lot during the Favre glory years. Might need to make a road trip back with some friends this year.

Timmyftblstar54
01-13-2013, 08:03 PM
Went when I was a kid a lot during the Favre glory years. Might need to make a road trip back with some friends this year.

always worth the trip!

Timmyftblstar54
01-13-2013, 08:04 PM
always try, however my 2nd child is due July 30th so it might be tough this year...

congrats to you!

Powell7db
01-13-2013, 09:04 PM
congrats to you!

thanks bud, I teach so I have the summer off, so it makes a perfect time to come down. you or anyone ever been to mini camp? Heard it is pretty quiet around there then but not sure if they practice outside or not...

MarshallCutler6
01-13-2013, 09:05 PM
Brandon Marshall Needs a buddy. Greg can be that buddy:)

Timmyftblstar54
01-13-2013, 09:12 PM
thanks bud, I teach so I have the summer off, so it makes a perfect time to come down. you or anyone ever been to mini camp? Heard it is pretty quiet around there then but not sure if they practice outside or not...

haven't been to a mini camp..only training camp. when are the mini camps?

KevJo
01-13-2013, 09:15 PM
My grumbling as I see it,

Huge Greg Jennings fan but he has to go. Driver as well. Great Packers but the team must progress the WRs. TE, Finley seemed to mentally struggle this season, drops and not getting open much. Rodgers needs that big TE, dont think Crabtree is that guy. The secondary is a bit undersized. This team is not far off. They need some key free agent signings and a good draft and that should put us back on track. This Season we had some real injury problems. Dont know if Jordy was ever 100 percent. Jones had a a Great season!

Kevin

Yanke3z11
01-13-2013, 09:18 PM
I really hope we are able to draft either Ertz from Stanford or Eifert from ND to replace Finely. Would also like to see us draft an RB with big play potential, even though Harris came on strong during the final few games.

dherm360
01-13-2013, 09:22 PM
They need to start off by getting rid of the conditioning coach, how many hamstring issues have they had the last few years

Would be nice to See Sherrod play and see what he can do. I still think they should go best player available minus QB with number 1--they need to get deeper at OL, DL, LB, CB. Look at how dominent SF line was, they have three former #1s, lets face it Rodgers cant be sacked 60 times a year and continue to stay healthy

I would like to see them bring back Finley, Benson, Jennings--Driver is done, and dont know how much Woodson has left

lambeauleap87
01-13-2013, 09:27 PM
They need to start off by getting rid of the conditioning coach, how many hamstring issues have they had the last few years

I would like to see them bring back Finley, Benson, Jennings--Driver is done, and dont know how much Woodson has left

I don't see any reason to bring back Benson with the way Harris and Green played at the end of the season. Finley is just too big of a headache. Unless Jennings takes a big discount to stay in Green Bay, I think the salary cap says he has to go.

Kosmo Kards
01-13-2013, 10:09 PM
Getting rid of Dom Capers is priority #1.

Skeletonbuster
01-13-2013, 11:58 PM
Getting rid of Dom Capers is priority #1.

I agree with this. I think its time to move on. As the games wear on we seem to be playing more and more prevent, we need to keep the foot on the gas and put them away

sljock53
01-14-2013, 12:14 AM
Eifert... barrett jones... we need one of the 2

TheHelmutt
01-14-2013, 12:33 AM
I know Cobb is a huge weapon, but I was telling everyone I know since week 12 that I feel like the Packers were trapping themselves into relying too much on Cobb and sort of becoming one-dimensional. Anyone agree?

I also feel like the Rodgers needs to stop making commercials. I'm very serious. As far as I can remember, ANY athlete that comes into a big payday underperforms as a direct result. I love the guy but man... Ford, Associated Bank, StateFarm, David Gruber Law and the nail in the coffin of my tolerance was Pizza Hut.

Now Clay Matthews is all over the place too. Guy did a DEPENDS adult diaper commercial.

matt roberson
01-14-2013, 10:06 AM
The pack needs to draft Montee Ball if he drops to them, and O line men.

freethrowtommy
01-14-2013, 10:47 AM
The pack needs to draft Montee Ball if he drops to them, and O line men.

Don't agree with Montee Ball. Wisconsin RB have historically been failures because Wisconsin's o-line is almost always stout and have made the RB look better than they actually are (ie Denver's o-line from the late 90's/early 00's).

Now, drafting a lineman from Wisconsin would be a good idea. Or just trading for one... Joe Thomas, anyone?

BearsFaninCltNC
01-14-2013, 10:52 AM
you guys might get urlacher, but be preparred! If you boo, that will get on his nerves and he will call packer fans out for being poor sports!

matt roberson
01-14-2013, 11:04 AM
Don't agree with Montee Ball. Wisconsin RB have historically been failures because Wisconsin's o-line is almost always stout and have made the RB look better than they actually are (ie Denver's o-line from the late 90's/early 00's).

Now, drafting a lineman from Wisconsin would be a good idea. Or just trading for one... Joe Thomas, anyone?

In the past yes, but I think he's the real deal. Besides that they never a fair shot, Dayne got drafted behind Tiki, Calhoun was too small and the rest too fat.

ChicoCheese
01-14-2013, 11:37 AM
Helmutt, I tried to bring up the whole commercial thing on the packer forum and I was told that I was way off base. However I ALSO agree that these commercials are changing the players.

Sure, Rodgers and Matthews still looked great on the field as far as stats go...but there was something amiss.

Jennings I think made the most commercials, or at least the most proiminant ones and look at him. injury after injury.

O-line, fire Capers, Defense.

MarshallCutler6
01-14-2013, 12:35 PM
you guys might get urlacher, but be preparred! If you boo, that will get on his nerves and he will call packer fans out for being poor sports!

I can assure you right now that Brian Urlacher would NEVER sign with the Packers, and I mean EVER.

howethegreat
01-14-2013, 01:59 PM
dont draft a wisconsin o linemen, remember carimi he sucks

atowncards
01-14-2013, 02:25 PM
Jones, Nelson, and Cobb will be an excellent top 3 receivers. Jennings and Driver need to go. Ross and Boykin will move into the 4 and 5 hole, so I think receivers are set.

I think the defense is on the way up as well. Casey Hayward is going to be a shut down, pro bowl corner within a year or two, and Shields has really stepped his game up. I think we need a reliable running back and tight end. A few good O-lineman wouldn't hurt either.

ninjacookies
01-14-2013, 02:41 PM
Would any of you guys be angry if Jennings goes to Seattle?

Because, I would not mind. :D

lambeauleap87
01-14-2013, 03:11 PM
I can assure you right now that Brian Urlacher would NEVER sign with the Packers, and I mean EVER.

We said the same thing about Favre and the Vikings...

ChasK510
01-14-2013, 04:39 PM
What I want:

Jennings in a franchise and trade to Miami for two 2nd rounders
Finley to stay another year
Driver retires
Woodson stays one more year
Get healthy
Draft good players
Win Super Bowl


Packers lost a lot of impact players on defense (Bishop, DJ Smith, Worthy, Nick Perry) and along the line (Bulaga) this year. I think if they get everyone back and stay healthy, they will be just fine. I think they found something in Harris and the line was starting to gel the end of the year with Barclay and EDS in there.


Jennings will not even get 1 2nd round pick, let alone 2. No way his value is that high at all.

MarshallCutler6
01-14-2013, 04:57 PM
We said the same thing about Favre and the Vikings...

Brian is Brett. Brett was in it for the money and nothing else, and Brian despises the Packers, like, a lot.

burke23
01-14-2013, 04:59 PM
I think it starts with punting Rodgers to the curb...and then Zygi pulling up in a stretch limo, a blank check, and a couple of ladies to celebrate Aarons coming over to the good side of the border ;)

howethegreat
01-14-2013, 04:59 PM
as a bears fan this is what i want-
-bears sign jennings and finley
-capers gets fired
-woodson and drive retire
-packers don't reload at wr and defense
-bears win division

GOWIFB
01-14-2013, 05:20 PM
#1 priority to me is firing Dom Capers. There is too much talent on that defense to let it go to waste. That niner game was flat out embarassing. Kaepernick is good but he ain't 45 points good, especially against a good defense. I am kind of surprised they havent done it yet. The longer they wait the harder it is going to be to find a replacement. I want him fired today and a call to Lovie Smith placed. Unless he gets a head coaching job somewhere I think he would take the Packers D-Coordinator job in a heartbeat. He could go back against the Bears and he will get alot of talent to play with.

#2 priority is at least placing the franchise tag on Jennings. I understand that it might be very hard to resign him to a long term deal given that they also have to focus on guys like Matthews and Raji coming up, but they should at least keep him around for next year. I do not have faith in the rest of the receiving core that any of those guys are a #1 receiver. Jordy and Cobb are solid #2s and Jones is a #3.

freethrowtommy
01-14-2013, 05:27 PM
Jennings will not even get 1 2nd round pick, let alone 2. No way his value is that high at all.

To a team desperate for WR help, you never know.

Timmyftblstar54
01-15-2013, 12:00 AM
To a team desperate for WR help, you never know.

agreed, he can fill the #1 reciever slot on many teams in my opinion