View Full Version : 2012 Topps Golden Ticket (What is fair demand if Topps cannot deliver the ball)
rwitte
02-01-2013, 06:29 PM
As you likely remember, Topps marketed the 2012 Baseball Series One product with a "Golden Ticket" promotion, whereby the Golden Ticket recipients would receive a 24k gold-infused baseball autographed by Willie Mays, Hank Aaron and Ken Griffey, Jr. I won one of the golden tickets via a drawing at my local card shop. Sent the ticket to Topps last year, and have heard nothing from them since they received it.
My LCS had another customer who sent in at least one of the golden tickets, and for personal reasons could not wait any longer for Topps to get the balls signed. That person arrived at a settlement of sorts with Topps, despite knowing that you simply cannot replicate the autographed golden baseballs that Topps has promised, yet thus far failed to deliver.
A year has now passed, and Topps has not even extended the courtesy of reaching out to the winners to let them know the status of the golden baseballs. I called customer service a few weeks ago, and was promised a call back (of course, I'm still waiting on the call back about the 2012 Gold Rush redemption, the 2012 Kickoff promo, etc). I have recently followed-up via twitter (but have not yet heard back from them).
My question is this: What is a fair "replacement" (so to speak) in return for a truly unique item such as a gold-infused baseball signed by Mays, Griffey and Aaron? The 24k gold-infused baseball (without autographs) sells for $289.99 [see: MLB 24KT Gold Baseball in Glass Case - MLB.com Shop (http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11764965) ]. The value of having Mays, Aaron and Griffey autographs on that ball is priceless in that you cannot buy them anywhere. So, if it were you, what would you ask for if Topps told you they knew for certain that they would not be able to honor their commitment to deliver these baseballs?
[By the way, even though I am an attorney, I'd like to keep this post from becoming a "sue the bastards" pep rally. I am not happy, but I want to be reasonable in my dealings with Topps, and would only consider legal action if I absolutely felt that there was no other recourse. I still have hope that Topps will do the right thing (although I have felt that in other instances only to be sorely disappointed).]
Thanks in advance for your thoughts, ideas, and suggestions. I hope that Topps is able to get these balls signed and delivered, but I value your input in what to request if they are not.
Metsfan1121
02-01-2013, 06:57 PM
I would guess $600-$1000. I would request autos of each of them along with one of those gold balls.
luck15hope
02-01-2013, 07:08 PM
. . . . . . . . . . .
bufbills98
02-01-2013, 07:18 PM
I have an employee that also pulled above golden ticket. He is also waiting and Topps keeps giving him the We are waiting statement.
I hope all of you get something decent. But as for the Balls.. i dont think they will ever fill the redemptions
MetDude
02-01-2013, 07:20 PM
sue the bastards :)
abcd1234
02-01-2013, 08:02 PM
24k gold infused is what, a small layer of gold paint on top of the baseball? It should not be worth much more than a regular baseball but considering your circumstance it is apparent that topps created something very rare and unique only to make you wait for a long time to get. I would wait as long as possible and would mark my calendar every month to remind them of their obligation. I think the item could be worth thousands just based on the assumption that not many are out there with the 24'k gold. Shame on Topps.
death2redemptions
02-01-2013, 08:03 PM
LAWSUiT!!!
flagshipchromecollector
02-01-2013, 08:08 PM
I think you'd have a pretty good claim against them. How much product do you think they sold because of that promotion?
hohlernr
02-01-2013, 08:37 PM
I would say at a MINIMUM a fair market value is $1000 for several reasons:
1. The gold baseballs are worth quite a bit more than regular balls.
2. It would be virtually impossible to get all 3 of those players to sign the same ball
3. It would be Topps certified. If you look at completed eBay auctions, Topps certified signed baseballs go for a big premium vs. any other version.
Keyser Soze
02-01-2013, 08:44 PM
I assume you're the guy I've been talking to on FCB?
Topps is supposed to offer you fair market value, NOT a value related to the production costs. Word on another site is that a guy replaced his ball and all Topps gave him was a case of Archives, which is a complete #@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@ replacement. I had it out with Topps on Twitter about this and the individual behind their Twitter account (surely their head of marketing, whom I won't name but many know) told me to have the person contact him through Twitter DM, but I only know OF this collector, I don't know him. If you are interested in replacing the ball, i HIGHLY recommend you get some attention by asking Topps on Twitter what they'll offer you. They'll probably tell you to DM them, but that's a good thing because then you're dealing with their marketing director instead of one of the monkeys that work their CS phones.
vwnut13
02-01-2013, 09:04 PM
Sue dem bas'ards!
lauriontj
02-01-2013, 09:16 PM
If it hasn't been said already, I say sue the bastads
charnick
02-01-2013, 09:19 PM
wow, they held a contest offering such a unique and special prize, and didn't even have it in hand to give to the winner? will the redemption madness never end? for shame.
gamboooler
02-01-2013, 09:45 PM
My guess is about $1000 for the ball. Probably a tad conservative.
dthimesch
02-01-2013, 09:48 PM
I would ask for a Harper BC Red Ref Auto as a replacement :)!
Pine Tar
02-01-2013, 10:21 PM
No offense to anyone that pulled one of these. But I would not be surprise if Topps never makes these at all.
lambeauleap87
02-01-2013, 10:27 PM
A case of every 2013 baseball product they release.
Srt42004n
02-01-2013, 10:42 PM
Well seems like you have several things going on here. Whats the deal with having to call about Gold Rush and Kickoff? My thing with the balls is Mays just recently signed, Griffey as well if any id say Aaron is the wait
Keyser Soze
02-01-2013, 10:52 PM
Well seems like you have several things going on here. Whats the deal with having to call about Gold Rush and Kickoff? My thing with the balls is Mays just recently signed, Griffey as well if any id say Aaron is the wait
In my back-and-forth with Topps on Twitter they said Mays was the problem, although he just signed some other stuff. Apparently he has an issue with being on the ball with the other two. It's complete incompetence that they didn't have the details worked out beforehand.
dthimesch
02-01-2013, 11:43 PM
In my back-and-forth with Topps on Twitter they said Mays was the problem, although he just signed some other stuff. Apparently he has an issue with being on the ball with the other two. It's complete incompetence that they didn't have the details worked out beforehand.
That doesn't sound like Topps at all. :confused::confused:
refuse24
02-02-2013, 02:27 AM
In my back-and-forth with Topps on Twitter they said Mays was the problem, although he just signed some other stuff. Apparently he has an issue with being on the ball with the other two. It's complete incompetence that they didn't have the details worked out beforehand.Mays is holding out for more money :).
refuse24
02-02-2013, 02:28 AM
All I know is I would wait it out and be the last man standing.Screw topps and there BS replacements.
danmecum51
02-02-2013, 02:48 AM
Obviously being an attorney you're te type that reads and interprets fine print. Go look at what they state as a replacement for this prize. They wouldn't be dumb enough to not include some kind of literature. If they didn't state that you really should take legal action on them. Most states will recognize sports card collecting as a game of "chance" or gambling (no purchase necessary program) because they have stated odds and you're gettin an undisclosed item, I'm sure there are laws prohibiting someone advertising and promoting a product and not including or offering that prize. It's like the Pepsi points and the dude who actually collected enough for the jet. He sued the crap out of Pepsi. What's stopping me from forming my own company offering Mickey mantle rookies as part of a raffle and then replacing that price with a billy butler topps rookie? Just sayin. Stand up for the hobby and mow these pigs down
yankee_pride
02-02-2013, 11:05 AM
from what I've read Mays did recently do a signing for Topps but didn't sign any of the Gold Balls for whatever reason. And the reason they don't have the other 2 sign so you get something instead of nothing is because they feel that with his age they need/want Mays to sign first because they are afraid he'd ruin the other 2 Autos because his writing at this point is so shaky.
It's very plausable that this redemption won't ever see the light of day.
This is the note Sportscardradio.com put on their 2013 Topps review page concerning the Ultimate Chase Tickets.
Ultimate Chase Ticket Buyer Beware: In 2012 Topps held a similar promotion - minus the playoff tickets. The redemption 'Gold Tickets' were for a gold infused baseball autographed by Willie Mays - Ken Griffey Jr. - and Hank Aaron. To date the balls have not been signed and the buyers/owners of these tickets have had very little communication from Topps on the issue. Topps says that the baseball's must be signed by Willie Mays first because of his health and vision problems, with the worry that he will damage the signatures if Griffey Jr. and Aaron signed the ball first. Topps recently (late 2012) had a signing session with Mays but did not get the gold infused balls signed. Collectors could be in for a long wait - or perhaps - never get the item promised by Topps. I would be wary about spending good money on an 'Ultimate Chase Ticket'.
VinnyH
02-02-2013, 11:22 AM
Never mind, just noticed this last post. Seems a quality compromise should be made by Topps.
Best Always,
VinnyH
jlzinck
02-02-2013, 11:28 AM
You can demand until you bleed from the anus it's not going to happen.
Id you do not feel like waiting you will get a replacement at what tops deems the replacement value.
You got this for free. Use a little common sense.
Wait it out because the value is nothing if the miserable Mr Mays doesn't sign.
Demand something from him
enyouartist
02-02-2013, 11:42 AM
Obviously being an attorney you're te type that reads and interprets fine print. Go look at what they state as a replacement for this prize. They wouldn't be dumb enough to not include some kind of literature. If they didn't state that you really should take legal action on them. Most states will recognize sports card collecting as a game of "chance" or gambling (no purchase necessary program) because they have stated odds and you're gettin an undisclosed item, I'm sure there are laws prohibiting someone advertising and promoting a product and not including or offering that prize. It's like the Pepsi points and the dude who actually collected enough for the jet. He sued the crap out of Pepsi. What's stopping me from forming my own company offering Mickey mantle rookies as part of a raffle and then replacing that price with a billy butler topps rookie? Just sayin. Stand up for the hobby and mow these pigs down
FYI, Pepsi won that case. Leonard v. Pepsico, Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_v._Pepsico,_Inc.#section_4)
While I would love for someone to "stand up for the hobby", I'm sure the OP knows that years of legal proceedings and subsequent fees would take render it a losing proposition. It's just not worth it; which Topps is counting on.
Shame on Topps and other companies for the redemptions that go unfullfilled. It's a black eye for the hobby.
jlzinck
02-02-2013, 01:13 PM
FYI, Pepsi won that case. Leonard v. Pepsico, Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_v._Pepsico,_Inc.#section_4)
While I would love for someone to "stand up for the hobby", I'm sure the OP knows that years of legal proceedings and subsequent fees would take render it a losing proposition. It's just not worth it; which Topps is counting on.
Shame on Topps and other companies for the redemptions that go unfullfilled. It's a black eye for the hobby.
Please also include the athletes who are paid to sign but dont
dhcollecting
02-02-2013, 03:30 PM
$1000 is low....retail value would be $1500-2000.
mrlaker
02-02-2013, 05:23 PM
FYI, Pepsi won that case. Leonard v. Pepsico, Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_v._Pepsico,_Inc.#section_4)
While I would love for someone to "stand up for the hobby", I'm sure the OP knows that years of legal proceedings and subsequent fees would take render it a losing proposition. It's just not worth it; which Topps is counting on.
Shame on Topps and other companies for the redemptions that go unfullfilled. It's a black eye for the hobby.
the reasons behind why pepsi won would not apply to this case.
rwitte
02-04-2013, 01:00 AM
Again, not hoping to sue. That said, the fact that Topps recently did a Mays signing -- and apparently did not even ask him to sign the balls -- raises concerns. That said, we hear these things second hand, so hopefully the rumors are wrong. According to one person I spoke with, Mays never agreed to sign these balls, and he was offended by the promotion. Again, second hand info. But, why wouldn't Topps communicate?
I appreciate the feedback. Helps me to determine what is fair. That is all I want.
Keyser Soze
02-04-2013, 08:36 AM
Again, not hoping to sue. That said, the fact that Topps recently did a Mays signing -- and apparently did not even ask him to sign the balls -- raises concerns. That said, we hear these things second hand, so hopefully the rumors are wrong. According to one person I spoke with, Mays never agreed to sign these balls, and he was offended by the promotion. Again, second hand info. But, why wouldn't Topps communicate?
I appreciate the feedback. Helps me to determine what is fair. That is all I want.
So have you contacted Topps yet to inquire about your options? That's your obvious first step, and I'd LOVE to hear what you get offered.
mrlaker
02-04-2013, 02:14 PM
I'd be asking for between 1000-1500 SV. And if it's multiple Items I would want the higher end of that range.
Keyser Soze
02-04-2013, 04:14 PM
Ask them on Twitter. Don't call their CS so you can wait on hold for 30 minutes only to talk to some idiot with no authority whatsoever. This exact issue has had some negative publicity for them on Twitter and I think they'll take care if you IF you go through Twitter and deal with the right people.
Keyser Soze
02-04-2013, 04:21 PM
I'd be asking for between 1000-1500 SV. And if it's multiple Items I would want the higher end of that range.
I wouldn't accept anything less than $1500 based on previous sales that were posted by @SportsCardNews a little while back. No sales were under $1500, while 1 recorded sale was up near $3000. If Topps tries to lowball you with one of their ficticious values, you can search Worthpoint and find enough evidence to prove they're undervaluing the item. They always try to act like their pulled-out-of-their-ass values are a better gauge of worth than actual sales that occured. Don't let them get away with it in this case...
Friarg
02-04-2013, 04:37 PM
courtesy of our friends at Terapeak:
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jlzinck
02-04-2013, 04:42 PM
Again, not hoping to sue. .
Ahhh America land of lawsuits.
And to everyone giving a dollar value to what OP "deserves" the amounts shown were for redemptions sold.
His has no value because he redeemed it and did not sell it.
Friarg
02-04-2013, 04:50 PM
Ahhh America land of lawsuits.
And to everyone giving a dollar value to what OP "deserves" the amounts shown were for redemptions sold.
His has no value because he redeemed it and did not sell it.
where have I heard this one before...oh yeah...
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/5/5/9/6/6/webimg/644485377_o.gif
My question is this: What is a fair "replacement" (so to speak) in return for a truly unique item such as a gold-infused baseball signed by Mays, Griffey and Aaron? The 24k gold-infused baseball (without autographs) sells for $289.99 [see: MLB 24KT Gold Baseball in Glass Case - MLB.com Shop (http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11764965) ]. The value of having Mays, Aaron and Griffey autographs on that ball is priceless in that you cannot buy them anywhere. So, if it were you, what would you ask for if Topps told you they knew for certain that they would not be able to honor their commitment to deliver these baseballs?
This was a huge product hit. They promoted the hell out of it to sell wax. IMO they need to hit a home run to make good. This isn't a simple redemption auto or whatever. I would request a conference call with CS and maybe marketing to try and talk through it.
In my back-and-forth with Topps on Twitter they said Mays was the problem, although he just signed some other stuff. Apparently he has an issue with being on the ball with the other two. It's complete incompetence that they didn't have the details worked out beforehand.
That's completely stupid if it's true. If they can't get him to sign with the other two, have him sign by himself and give each Golden Ticket holder 2 or 3 balls (one with Aaron/Griff and one with Mays or one ball with one auto each). It's not exactly the same but it's fairly equitable.
Keyser Soze
02-04-2013, 05:16 PM
His has no value because he redeemed it and did not sell it.
Nothing personal, but this is literally one of the dumbest statements I've ever heard.
bbarber275
02-04-2013, 05:35 PM
I am also waiting on one of theses golden tickets.Yes, this topic has been talked about over on FCB. All the advertising was base around this GOLDEN TICKET. I would think they are pretty much backed into a corner and need to come up with A GOLDEN TICKET REPLACEMENT. These do not say redemption on them ,but WINNER. So this was more of a contest versus a redemption. I am thinking that looking into to Contest laws in NY state might be in order on this issue. I know NY is very strict on contests, as kids under 18 can't even put money down on a cake wheel and win a cake with out parents present.
Well I just looked up and in NY state id you have a sweepstake with more the $5000 in prizes you need to be bonded.
http://www.kilpatricktownsend.com/~/media/Files/articles/TLordLMillerFranchiseLawJournal09.ashx
uberfatty
02-04-2013, 07:07 PM
Nothing personal, but this is literally one of the dumbest statements I've ever heard.
I think he meant that te OP couldn't sell the card right now, since it is already redeemed. It's not like he can say to Topps, "hey I am losing out on $3000 here" because he is losing out on the ball, not the money.
And yes I understand that the ball may be worth that much to others, but just trying to draw the distinction between being out the money and being out the ball.
Keyser Soze
02-04-2013, 07:10 PM
I think he meant that te OP couldn't sell the card right now, since it is already redeemed. It's not like he can say to Topps, "hey I am losing out on $3000 here" because he is losing out on the ball, not the money.
And yes I understand that the ball may be worth that much to others, but just trying to draw the distinction between being out the money and being out the ball.
That make no sense. That's like saying that when someone steals your car that you aren't out any money, just the car.
rwitte
02-05-2013, 07:39 PM
Thank you for the responses. I have tried to address this with Topps via Twitter as well -- no response yet. It doesn't make sense to me that Topps would not step up and deal with the issue proactively -- especially on such a high-profile matter. In the meantime, I appreciate and value your feedback.
Thanks.
jlzinck
02-05-2013, 07:49 PM
Nothing personal, but this is literally one of the dumbest statements I've ever heard.
OK please show me all the gold baseballs signed by Griffey, Aaron and Mays and the prices the actual balls sold for. Oh that's right you can't because they were never produced.
Some moron bought a redemption for $2200 and now OP is entitled to that value?
OK so about I "buy" one for Ebay for $10K and not pay the seller. Is OP entitles to a $10,000 value?
Bottom line is that any rational person that got this for free will receive something from Topps as a replacement.
OP wants to know what a fair DEMAND is. He's also hoping not to sue. So will he sue if he's not happy? Well we will have to see:rolleyes:
tonedef2oo8
02-05-2013, 09:18 PM
What they sold for is irrelevant. What it costs to make the ball should be the value in the courts eyes. So add up what they charge at signings and the price of a gold ball and you have your value. The courts are made to make you right, not make you a profit. Lets be honest for a second we are talking about 3 mens signatures, 2 of which sign almost other every weekend somewhere on a gold ball you can get for $200. We are not talking about one of a kind artwork from Picasso.
While it may piss some off thats what its worth. Saying hey they based a product around this promotion therefore I deserve extra really dont mean anything. Does it stink for those who paid? Not really, they could have attended 3 signings and had it done themselves.
freethrowtommy
02-05-2013, 09:39 PM
Lets assume Mays decides not to sign and they decide to replace his signature with another player.
Who would be of comparable value and not kill the ball?
Keyser Soze
02-05-2013, 09:53 PM
Lets assume Mays decides not to sign and they decide to replace his signature with another player.
Who would be of comparable value and not kill the ball?
I asked the same on Twitter and they said they really want to get keep that lineup intact, but at some point you just have to move on to the next best option
Keyser Soze
02-05-2013, 09:55 PM
OK please show me all the gold baseballs signed by Griffey, Aaron and Mays and the prices the actual balls sold for. Oh that's right you can't because they were never produced.
Some moron bought a redemption for $2200 and now OP is entitled to that value?
OK so about I "buy" one for Ebay for $10K and not pay the seller. Is OP entitles to a $10,000 value?
Bottom line is that any rational person that got this for free will receive something from Topps as a replacement.
OP wants to know what a fair DEMAND is. He's also hoping not to sue. So will he sue if he's not happy? Well we will have to see:rolleyes:
If only 1 ball had been sold, then what you're saying would make sense, but multiple sales have been reported. When a handful of buyers paid in excess of $1500 for the redemption, it establishes a market value.
Keyser Soze
02-05-2013, 09:57 PM
What they sold for is irrelevant. What it costs to make the ball should be the value in the courts eyes. So add up what they charge at signings and the price of a gold ball and you have your value. The courts are made to make you right, not make you a profit. Lets be honest for a second we are talking about 3 mens signatures, 2 of which sign almost other every weekend somewhere on a gold ball you can get for $200. We are not talking about one of a kind artwork from Picasso.
While it may piss some off thats what its worth. Saying hey they based a product around this promotion therefore I deserve extra really dont mean anything. Does it stink for those who paid? Not really, they could have attended 3 signings and had it done themselves.
Topps has ALWAYS gone by Becketts "market value" for replacement values, cost to make the ball means nothing.
freethrowtommy
02-05-2013, 10:11 PM
I asked the same on Twitter and they said they really want to get keep that lineup intact, but at some point you just have to move on to the next best option
That is my question, if you guys had to choose, who would you replace Mays with?
Friarg
02-05-2013, 10:32 PM
The argument here is fair market value vs replacement cost. I can see it both ways, honestly, but with collectibles, I'd tend to side with the FMV crowd. My insurance policy on my collection uses FMV to determine my premiums and I'd hate to see what would happen if Topps started replacing redemptions with the cost of cardboard and ink.
Friarg
02-05-2013, 10:35 PM
That is my question, if you guys had to choose, who would you replace Mays with?
Have to go with Koufax - doesn't fit the theme, but he's the best value replacement under the Topps tent
tonedef2oo8
02-05-2013, 10:41 PM
Topps has ALWAYS gone by Becketts "market value" for replacement values, cost to make the ball means nothing.
And people are talking lawsuits, in that case BV means zilch. Besides do you have a beckett handy? Out of curiosity whats the BV on this?
mindbinge
02-06-2013, 12:05 AM
I'd keep on waiting, Mays just signed some stuff for Topps after a years wait or so....I'd just keep on holding out hopes that you will get the ball someday. If Topps doesn't deliver, I'd want autos of each of those guys + a lot of compensation beyond that.
teamgetbig
02-07-2013, 05:33 PM
Hypothetical - Let's say you got to pick 3 players to put on the ball in addition to Aaron and Griffey in replacement of them not being able to get Mays. Who do you choose?
death2redemptions
02-07-2013, 05:34 PM
Hypothetical - Let's say you got to pick 3 players to put on the ball in addition to Aaron and Griffey in replacement of them not being able to get Mays. Who do you choose?
Martin Prado :)!
Metsfan1121
02-07-2013, 05:49 PM
I'd consider asking for Barry Bonds if he's willing. Too bad Stan the Man recently passed, one of the best outfielders of all time, and a great character as well.
Keyser Soze
02-07-2013, 09:11 PM
And people are talking lawsuits, in that case BV means zilch. Besides do you have a beckett handy? Out of curiosity whats the BV on this?
It doesn't mean zilch. I've seen these golden tickets and they have a disclaimer that if they're not able to produce the ball than they can replace it with an item of equivalent value. Not with an item that costs the same amount to manufacture.
If you're going to court, I imagine all you'd have to do is show the disclaimer and then show a Worthpoint report proving what the market value is.
jlzinck
03-01-2013, 01:48 PM
Topps Tweeted today that Willie signed the gold balls. Now to the others and all the stupid lawsuit and "value" talk can end.
Skipscards
03-01-2013, 05:51 PM
Hypothetical - Let's say you got to pick 3 players to put on the ball in addition to Aaron and Griffey in replacement of them not being able to get Mays. Who do you choose?
Glad Willie signed, but this is an interesting question. Trouble is, Mays is arguably the greatest living ballplayer at this point. And there aren't many alive who have as valuable an autograph.
I agree Koufax would be the next closest in terms of "value" but it really doesn't make much sense having him there with The Hammer and The Kid. Bonds is probably the most comparable player, but he has his own baggage. From a value standpoint, you could possibly go with Pujols or even Ichiro. Pujols makes sense in terms of "type" of player, but Ichiro's autos are pretty rare and he's obviously going into the Hall.
After those, Cal Ripken, Nolan Ryan, and George Brett all have decently valued signatures.
If I couldn't get Mays, I'd probably like to see Ripken (Ironman) with Aaron and Griffey, especially if they each inscribed their nicknames.
refuse24
03-02-2013, 02:30 AM
Topps Tweeted today that Willie signed the gold balls. Now to the others and all the stupid lawsuit and "value" talk can end.
Good to hear the news :).
jlzinck
03-02-2013, 09:24 AM
Good to hear the news :).
And please post pictures when it arrives!!
Anderdale
03-02-2013, 09:33 AM
Martin Prado :)!
Baseballs Macgyver!
rwitte
12-17-2013, 09:28 PM
Quick Update: Still have not received the Golden Ticket baseball from Topps. If anyone has further details, please let me know. Topps has gone silent.
bufbills98
12-17-2013, 09:43 PM
I have an employee in same boat. He has been calling topps and nothing. I hope you guys get that ball, but its not looking to good..
centereacan06
12-17-2013, 09:46 PM
In terms of Beckett value, you're looking at a pair or Mikie Mahtook Sterling base autos. Maybe a base and a refractor.
HadWayTooMuch
12-17-2013, 09:54 PM
I seriously can't believe Topps isn't going to deliver on their #1 item in 2012 baseball. That's just plain old sad!
Keyser Soze
12-17-2013, 10:04 PM
I seriously can't believe Topps isn't going to deliver on their #1 item in 2012 baseball. That's just plain old standard operating procedure!
Fixed.....
Brobocop
12-17-2013, 10:16 PM
Could a nonstop Twitter and Facebook barrage possibly help? I'd be down. This is downright sickening what they are doing.
dhcollecting
12-18-2013, 12:25 AM
They can't deliver on anything high end...class action lawsuit!!
bbarber275
05-29-2014, 04:18 PM
Wow, after almost 2 1/2 years I received a tracking number from Topps saying the baseball has been shipped.
briscogun
05-29-2014, 05:15 PM
Wow, after almost 2 1/2 years I received a tracking number from Topps saying the baseball has been shipped.
Wow! That's crazy! I would've bet real money that these balls would never be produced.
rwitte? Did you get the same?
Has Topps confirmed this on Twitter? Anyone heard anything else to confirm?
Keyser Soze
05-29-2014, 05:32 PM
Wow, after almost 2 1/2 years I received a tracking number from Topps saying the baseball has been shipped.
Do you know it's the ball?!?! Or is it just your replacement case of Archives that they're sending you with even communicating with you? I hope it's the ball!!
exitmusicblue
05-29-2014, 06:40 PM
Has Topps always been so incompetent? When did it all start going wrong?
death2redemptions
05-29-2014, 06:42 PM
Wow, after almost 2 1/2 years I received a tracking number from Topps saying the baseball has been shipped.
Could be a case they are sending you as a replacement...they have been known to do that....but I sure hope it is the ball, I'd love to see it.
bbarber275
05-30-2014, 07:02 AM
When you look up the package it says it should be delivered today and the weight shows less then 1 pound.
Keyser Soze
05-30-2014, 07:09 AM
When you look up the package it says it should be delivered today and the weight shows less then 1 pound.
I'm rooting for you, man! Start a new thread and post pictures when you can.
solt0131
05-30-2014, 07:56 AM
Wow, after almost 2 1/2 years I received a tracking number from Topps saying the baseball has been shipped.
This has "Hammer Time" written all over it. Prepare to get burned.
lazygambler
05-30-2014, 08:02 AM
Oh man! I really hope you get the ball. Fingers are crossed
bbarber275
05-30-2014, 01:35 PM
Well the wait is over and after mailing in the Golden Ticket in Jan of 2012 the ball has arrived.
Bob Loblaw
05-30-2014, 01:38 PM
Amazing that it took 2 years, but that is beautiful.
Wow, congrats! Great piece.
Forgot how much I don't like Mays' sig but it's still Willie freaking Mays. My only nit is with the ink/surface not doing so well together on parts of Aaron and Mays. The Griffey is a beauty.
I assume it looks even better in person?
bbarber275
05-30-2014, 01:45 PM
It looks awesome in the sunlight. That is where I took the Aaron Auto picture.Here is a better picture of the Aaron Auto I took inside.You can see the gold sparkles more in the sunlight then under florescent lights .
MetDude
05-30-2014, 01:48 PM
Awesome! Congratulations!
death2redemptions
05-30-2014, 02:05 PM
Oh man, that is incredible! Definitely worth the wait...
Thinking
05-30-2014, 04:11 PM
Awesome ball -- congrats -- I would say it has to be worth the wait and hassle -- wow!
EJohnson
05-30-2014, 04:14 PM
Sickness!!
xbignick
05-30-2014, 06:58 PM
Awesome ball! Was wondering if they were going to go with straight out pen on the ball.
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