Package not received yet, but states it's been delivered

[Gurds]

I was in a group break the other week w/ RipKings and I haven't received my package yet. Yet the tracking states it been delivered last Thursday I believe. Does anyone have any contact information for them. I live in a townhome subdivision so the mailbox has like 10 others that the mail person puts mail in, so it could have easily been put in someone else's and you can't get into your mailbox without your key.

I plan on going by and asking everyone and hopefully they have it and haven't sent it back to the post office.

Any advice on what my course of action should be??

Thanks!!

[808buynsell808]

Its happened to me before that the mailman has delievered it to the wrong address hopefully you have good neighbors or it was insured if any of them where big money cards.

[pierrethomasfan]

This happened to me last week. I filed a claim on eBay and got my $ back

[tolrobb]

Happened to me once as well and I never got my cards or my cards back as it was a trade and the other member disappeared. :/

[jiggidy]

This happened to me last week. I filed a claim on eBay and got my $ back

How did eBay give you your money back if the status said delivered?

[pierrethomasfan]

How did eBay give you your money back if the status said delivered?

I selected item not as described and then explained what happened

[ediii33]

I selected item not as described and then explained what happened

So if you get the card six months from now will you give the seller their money back?

[pierrethomasfan]

So if you get the card six months from now will you give the seller their money back?

Of course. I wouldn't have any reason to keep the money if I got my card. I actually asked if I could have a refund and their Paypal address so that I could sent them the money if I ever got th card and they said they wouldn't refund me

[jiggidy]

I selected item not as described and then explained what happened

That seems like a slippery slope for eBay to issue a refund. Pretty much contradicts the need for DC if they are just going to issue refunds anyway.

[pierrethomasfan]

That seems like a slippery slope for eBay to issue a refund. Pretty much contradicts the need for DC if they are just going to issue refunds anyway.

Ya that's what I thought. But I hear the seller keeps the money as well so eBay/Paypal eats it :eek::confused:

[mnava18]

woah this is exactly what happened to me last week, same seller to. i had a package say it was delivered , but i never got anything. weird

[iBLeeDBaTTLeReD]

Kiss your money/card goodbye. Unless whoever accidentally received it returns the package you are SOL.

[pierrethomasfan]

Kiss your money/card goodbye. Unless whoever accidentally received it returns the package you are SOL.

Not at all. All he needs to do is file a claim

[Army19K]

I selected item not as described and then explained what happened

This is a douche move IMO.

[KEARYCOLBERT83]

Im still waiting on a package that shows up delivered on the dc#

[03supto]

Happened to me once as well and I never got my cards or my cards back as it was a trade and the other member disappeared. :/

Same thing happened to me...lost out on a 1/1 and 3 eBay 1/1s

[Army19K]

That seems like a slippery slope for eBay to issue a refund. Pretty much contradicts the need for DC if they are just going to issue refunds anyway.

So it goes something like this?

PTF: My card has not been delivered yet

Ebay: The DC# shows that it is there

PTF: Well I dont have it

Ebay: Well under the ebay sellers protection we cant issue a refund with a DC that shows delivered

PTF: Oh, well then it came not as described

Ebay: Oh ok, well here is your money, send the card back to the seller

PTF: Nope, dont have it

Ebay: Well, keep the money we shouldnt of gave you, who cares about our policies anyways..............

[pierrethomasfan]

This is a douche move IMO.

If this were anyone else, you wouldn't have said that. I'm not just gonna eat the money. Not my fault

[03supto]

Kiss your money/card goodbye. Unless whoever accidentally received it returns the package you are SOL.

This...because requesting any form of help from PO is brutally worthless

[Army19K]

If this were anyone else, you wouldn't have said that. I'm not just gonna eat the money. Not my fault

I sure would of, if you won the item not as described, how are you sending the card back as ebay dictates that you must?

[pierrethomasfan]

So it goes something like this?

PTF: My card has not been delivered yet

Ebay: The DC# shows that it is there

PTF: Well I dont have it

Ebay: Well under the ebay sellers protection we cant issue a refund with a DC that shows delivered

PTF: Oh, well then it came not as described

Ebay: Oh ok, well here is your money, send the card back to the seller

PTF: Nope, dont have it

Ebay: Well, keep the money we shouldnt of gave you, who cares about our policies anyways..............

Not gonna lie...this is funny :o

[pierrethomasfan]

I sure would of, if you won the item not as described, how are you sending the card back as ebay dictates that you must?

Good point. It wouldn't let me select item not received because dc showed delivered

[Army19K]

Not gonna lie...this is funny :o

Look, Im not going to take shots at you, but it is BS, I HATE EBAY more and more everyday, why have a policy in place if they just go around it.

[cking]

That seems like a slippery slope for eBay to issue a refund. Pretty much contradicts the need for DC if they are just going to issue refunds anyway.

This is what prevents sellers from sending empty bubble mailers with a dc#.If it says delivered and the buyer has no course of action then basically every seller could do this as long as they were willing to eat a negative.

[mufasa]

This is a douche move IMO.


Totally agree with you. Total jackoff move. Not the sellers fault the post office misdelivered the item but now seller is out the card and his money. What is to say ptf didnt recieve the card and just does not want to pay for it? Kids like ptf need a dose of reality. Makes me sick that someone could be so idiotic and then to say well paypal or ebay will eat it. Like that excuses it.

[Army19K]

This is what prevents sellers from sending empty bubble mailers with a dc#.If it says delivered and the buyer has no course of action then basically every seller could do this as long as they were willing to eat a negative.

But then what prevents the buyers from claiming that it didnt arrive even with DC#, it is ebay own policy, why should they be able to just take the money from you anyways when you followed every rule by the book? Whats the point of even having it if they just do what they want anyways?

[Army19K]

Totally agree with you. Total jackoff move. Not the sellers fault the post office misdelivered the item but now seller is out the card and his money. What is to say ptf didnt recieve the card and just does not want to pay for it? Kids like ptf need a dose of reality. Makes me sick that someone could be so idiotic and then to say well paypal or ebay will eat it. Like that excuses it.

Honestly I dont think it even falls on PTF, while I wouldnt of done it, this is on Ebay, they make it a haven for scammers, dont follow their own rules, let fake accounts go months with 100's of bid retractions and multiple non payment strikes, false feedback runs rampant..... Sorry, off my soap box now.

[pierrethomasfan]

Honestly I dont think it even falls on PTF, while I wouldnt of done it, this is on Ebay, they make it a haven for scammers, dont follow their own rules, let fake accounts go months with 100's of bid retractions and multiple non payment strikes, false feedback runs rampant..... Sorry, off my soap box now.

Thanks for backing me up. I see what you're saying. If I ever would get it, I will pay the seller their $. But mufassa is wrong because it shouldn't be my fault either. A member on here told me this is what they did. He said the seller emailed them saying they kept the money. And they got the card 2 days later and got a refund. Obviously I would pay the seller

[mufasa]

Thanks for backing me up. I see what you're saying. If I ever would get it, I will pay the seller their $. But mufassa is wrong because it shouldn't be my fault either. A member on here told me this is what they did. He said the seller emailed them saying they kept the money. And they got the card 2 days later and got a refund. Obviously I would pay the seller

Put yourself in the sellers position. If you sold a card and did everything you were supposed to (dc and mailed on time) and the item shows delivered. Then the buyer comes along and says they didnt get it. You show it was delivered but then the buyer files a bogus claim saying "item not described" in order to "trick" the system or use a loophole to get around the policy. Would you truly believe that buyer was honest and would pay if it ever showed up?

You basically lied to get a refund but expect people (seller) to assume you have integrity and will pay if it shows up. And what does ebay or paypal taking the money or writing it off have to do with right and wrong? Because it is a business it is ok?

[pierrethomasfan]

Put yourself in the sellers position. If you sold a card and did everything you were supposed to (dc and mailed on time) and the item shows delivered. Then the buyer comes along and says they didnt get it. You show it was delivered but then the buyer files a bogus claim saying "item not described" in order to "trick" the system or use a loophole to get around the policy. Would you truly believe that buyer was honest and would pay if it ever showed up?

You basically lied to get a refund but expect people (seller) to assume you have integrity and will pay if it shows up. And what does ebay or paypal taking the money or writing it off have to do with right and wrong? Because it is a business it is ok?

I understand what you're saying and you have a very valid point. Although, I as the buyer paid immediately after I won it. I didn't do anything wrong either. Neither person should be out anything. The seller never insured it

[mufasa]

I understand what you're saying and you have a very valid point. Although, I as the buyer paid immediately after I won it. I didn't do anything wrong either. Neither person should be out anything. The seller never insured it

I agree that it stinks when things like this happen and that someone has to lose out. However, the way the system is set up is that if it shows delivered to your zip code and the seller did everything right, then you lose. You take it up with your post office. Seller cannot take it up with them. But cheating the system? You knew it was wrong or if you didn't, you should have been taught right from wrong better. I understand it sucks but those are risks we all assume by buying and selling online and using the usps and Paypal. They have rules but according to you, those can be circumvented by a quick lie so you never have to assume any risk in the transaction.

[pierrethomasfan]

I agree that it stinks when things like this happen and that someone has to lose out. However, the way the system is set up is that if it shows delivered to your zip code and the seller did everything right, then you lose. You take it up with your post office. Seller cannot take it up with them. But cheating the system? You knew it was wrong or if you didn't, you should have been taught right from wrong better. I understand it sucks but those are risks we all assume by buying and selling online and using the usps and Paypal. They have rules but according to you, those can be circumvented by a quick lie so you never have to assume any risk in the transaction.

The way I thought of it was it wasn't actually as described. I was supposed to get a card and it wasn't a card. It was nothing at all. I asked other members on here and they told me what I did was fine. I didn't just intentionally lie

[Jackg1980]

The way I thought of it was it wasn't actually as described. I was supposed to get a card and it wasn't a card. It was nothing at all. I asked other members on here and they told me what I did was fine. I didn't just intentionally lie

You may have hurt the sellers ratings.

[pierrethomasfan]

You may have hurt the sellers ratings.

Huh?:confused:

[Jackg1980]

Huh?:confused:

By opening an item not as describe case. Not sure tho.

[pierrethomasfan]

By opening an item not as describe case. Not sure tho.

Doubt it. They have perfect feedback

[Army19K]

Doubt it. They have perfect feedback

If you have a few item not as described cases decided against you, ebay will limit your sellers account, this is true.

[mufasa]

The way I thought of it was it wasn't actually as described. I was supposed to get a card and it wasn't a card. It was nothing at all. I asked other members on here and they told me what I did was fine. I didn't just intentionally lie

Those members are idiots then. So you admit that you lied though? Whether intentional or not you still lied and possibly cost the seller money because you disagree with the rules and policies of the companies you do business with. Oh well. Kids will be kids I guess.

[ManInTheMirror]

Have to always love the "yea I knew it was wrong- but others do it and told me to do it".

Hey ptf- Nick and I can tell you it's okay to murder are you going to go out and find a victim tonight?

[Jackg1980]

Doubt it. They have perfect feedback

It is not reflected on feedback. What you did was wrong. I hope you understand that.

[Gurds]

Update:

Got my package today. My neighbor from 4 units down had it, they stopped by Friday night to deliver it but no one was home, and they went out of town Saturday morning and didn't want to leave it on the front porch because it was forcasted to snow. Which is nice of them.

They just stopped by and delivered it about 30 minutes ago, so crisis adverted!!

Thanks everyone for the replies....Looks like I started a heated discussion too.

[wadedaniel84]

Totally agree with you. Total jackoff move. Not the sellers fault the post office misdelivered the item but now seller is out the card and his money. What is to say ptf didnt recieve the card and just does not want to pay for it? Kids like ptf need a dose of reality. Makes me sick that someone could be so idiotic and then to say well paypal or ebay will eat it. Like that excuses it.

Until it was your item this happened to.

Was it wrong? Yes. But when you piss money away on nothing sometimes people make jumpy decisions. Had this been a 400 dollar card would you be totally fine with eating it? I doubt it. It's a slippery situation.

[mufasa]

Until it was your item this happened to.

Was it wrong? Yes. But when you piss money away on nothing sometimes people make jumpy decisions. Had this been a 400 dollar card would you be totally fine with eating it? I doubt it. It's a slippery situation.

Actually it has happened to me on a 150.00 box of cards. Almost six months to the date after it said delivered, a new neighbor moved into a foreclosed home and knocked on my door. It was between the screen door and front door the whole time. The seller in my case was kind enough to offer a partial refund and yes i did send them the money when it came. Did it suck to be out any money and have nothing to show for it, yep. Did i resort to lying to get my way? Nope. It boils down to right and wrong.

And glad you got your package OP!

[Jackg1980]

Until it was your item this happened to.

Was it wrong? Yes. But when you piss money away on nothing sometimes people make jumpy decisions. Had this been a 400 dollar card would you be totally fine with eating it? I doubt it. It's a slippery situation.

Would you be totally fine with lying. As a seller I am only responsible until it gets delivered.

[pierrethomasfan]

Would you be totally fine with lying. As a seller I am only responsible until it gets delivered.

Until it gets delivered. It's not delivered until the buyer touches it or is in the mailbox

[Jackg1980]

Until it gets delivered. It's not delivered until the buyer touches it or is in the mailbox

If its says delivered, then that means its in the mailbox. If its not, then it was stolen or lost, but that is not the sellers responsibility. If it shows delivered then the seller has completed their part as long as its in condition as described.

[mufasa]

Until it gets delivered. It's not delivered until the buyer touches it or is in the mailbox

But that is why there is delivery conformation. Maybe a buyer could lie and say they never got it. People do lie as you have shown today. But maybe their friends said it was ok to lie. That makes it ok according to you.

[pierrethomasfan]

If its says delivered, then that means its in the mailbox. If its not, then it was stolen or lost, but that is not the sellers responsibility. If it shows delivered then the seller has completed their part as long as its in condition as described.

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t430/Cody_Wargo/other/EB5F78C8-F1EC-40C0-85DE-A6A3E1325BCE-1355-000001EDDFF4AA01_zpsc9f8e607.jpg

In the additional info, I was honest and wrote exactly what happened. I don't consider that lying IMHO

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t430/Cody_Wargo/other/AA8A3966-5FDA-4FF1-AC82-A719A7D8F09C-1355-000001EDDC18DCF4_zpsf41d70ce.jpg

[friarbolt]

If a package gets delivered to the wrong address the buyer and seller should both work together with the post office to solve the issue. Lying and opening an Ebay case to get money back is unethical and hurts the seller.

Plus normally in these instances like what happened with Gurd, it just ended up with a neighbor. PierreThomasFan, did you even bother checking with your neighbors first before filing a claim?

[friarbolt]

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t430/Cody_Wargo/other/EB5F78C8-F1EC-40C0-85DE-A6A3E1325BCE-1355-000001EDDFF4AA01_zpsc9f8e607.jpg

In the additional info, I was honest and wrote exactly what happened. I don't consider that lying IMHO

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t430/Cody_Wargo/other/AA8A3966-5FDA-4FF1-AC82-A719A7D8F09C-1355-000001EDDC18DCF4_zpsf41d70ce.jpg

The seller didn't refund you. A courtesy refund is when Ebay pays out of their own pocket mostly to get small claims off their back.

[Jackg1980]

In the additional info, I was honest and wrote exactly what happened. I don't consider that lying IMHO



You could of called eBay and ask what process you should take. By opening an item not as describe case you could potentially hurt the seller, who did nothing wrong. I am glad you got your money back.

[pierrethomasfan]

The seller didn't refund you. A courtesy refund is when Ebay pays out of their own pocket mostly to get small claims off their back.

That's why I said the the seller didn't lose $

[pierrethomasfan]

In the additional info, I was honest and wrote exactly what happened. I don't consider that lying IMHO



You could of called eBay and ask what process you should take. By opening an item not as describe case you could potentially hurt the seller, who did nothing wrong. I am glad you got your money back.

I was unaware of that. Now I know what procedure to take in the future. Thanks for the info

[friarbolt]

That's why I said the the seller didn't lose $

My point was that Ebay basically let it slide because it was a small deal. They do this all the time. But you still abused the system rather than go through the proper channels.

[pierrethomasfan]

My point was that Ebay basically let it slide because it was a small deal. They do this all the time. But you still abused the system rather than go through the proper channels.

Like I said, I did not intend to do that. In the future, I will go about things differently

[wadedaniel84]

Would you be totally fine with lying. As a seller I am only responsible until it gets delivered.

Absolutely not. Integrity is something I believe and care in. As a seller it pisses me off everytime you get the "I never received my item", granted the postal service is less than hasty and careful, when you get 30 of these a year, you can be certain that some of those are scamming there way into a card and their funds back. Like all of you I huff and puff but give the buyer the benefit of the doubt. eBay is quite terrible sometimes.

[friarbolt]

Like I said, I did not intend to do that. In the future, I will go about things differently

Then what was your intention? Wasn't it obvious as you were doing it that it was a false claim? You opened an item not as described case when there was no case. Ebay offering a refund doesn't prove it was the right move either, all that means is that they know neither side did anything wrong in the deal so they are refunding out of pocket to make the issue go away. I'm glad you learned something of course, but sometimes you have to think before you act. You could have damaged a reputable seller's business.

[Jackg1980]

I was unaware of that. Now I know what procedure to take in the future. Thanks for the info

Alright cool.

[pierrethomasfan]

Then what was your intention? Wasn't it obvious as you were doing it that it was a false claim? You opened an item not as described case when there was no case. Ebay offering a refund doesn't prove it was the right move either, all that means is that they know neither side did anything wrong in the deal so they are refunding out of pocket to make the issue go away. I'm glad you learned something of course, but sometimes you have to think before you act. You could have damaged a reputable seller's business.

I tried to use not delivered it wouldn't allow me. I'm not going to continue arguing about something that is done over

[ManInTheMirror]

Then what was your intention? Wasn't it obvious as you were doing it that it was a false claim? You opened an item not as described case when there was no case. Ebay offering a refund doesn't prove it was the right move either, all that means is that they know neither side did anything wrong in the deal so they are refunding out of pocket to make the issue go away. I'm glad you learned something of course, but sometimes you have to think before you act. You could have damaged a reputable seller's business.
And here boys and girls is a reason why pp fees are so high! Thanks ptf!!!!!

[friarbolt]

I tried to use not delivered it wouldn't allow me. I'm not going to continue arguing about something that is done over

I mean I'm just curious. Did you contact the seller before opening the claim? Did you call your local post office? Did you talk to your mailman? Did you check with neighbors? Seems like you went straight do a dishonest way to get your money back, just saying.

Maybe I'm taking out some frustration on you that is directed at the system in general, but this is the kind of stuff that is causing Ebay to be the mess that it is.

[mufasa]

And here boys and girls is a reason why pp fees are so high! Thanks ptf!!!!!

But his friends said it was ok..........:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[pierrethomasfan]

I mean I'm just curious. Did you contact the seller before opening the claim? Did you call your local post office? Did you talk to your mailman? Did you check with neighbors? Seems like you went straight do a dishonest way to get your money back, just saying.

Maybe I'm taking out some frustration on you that is directed at the system in general, but this is the kind of stuff that is causing Ebay to be the mess that it is.

Didn't check with the neighbors because it didn't occur to me until I checked the dc and it showed it was delivered a week ago.

I called the PO and they didn't do much but say they didn't have it

I emailed the seller and he wouldn't do anything except send me the link to email USPS

[ediii33]

I understand what you're saying and you have a very valid point. Although, I as the buyer paid immediately after I won it. I didn't do anything wrong either. Neither person should be out anything. The seller never insured it

The buyer is responsible for insurance. So you should have insured the card if you are that worried about five dollar purchase. I would not even bother filing a claim on something that cheap.

[pierrethomasfan]

The buyer is responsible for insurance. So you should have insured the card if you are that worried about five dollar purchase. I would not even bother filing a claim on something that cheap.

Actually the seller is responsible for insurance in ebays policy. I know...seems stupid but it's true

[ediii33]

And you're one to get technical on ebay policy. Mr item not as described. If I were the seller I would have wiped my nut sack with a five dollar bill and mailed it to you, and then I would BLOCK you.

[pierrethomasfan]

And you're one to get technical on ebay policy. Mr item not as described. If I were the seller I would have wiped my nut sack with a five dollar bill and mailed it to you, and then I would BLOCK you.

Cool story bro

[ediii33]

Cool story bro

Thanks:eek::devil::cool::D

[pierrethomasfan]

Thanks:eek::devil::cool::D

Yup:p:D:flex::o

[ediii33]

Bottom line is its a douche bag move over a five dollar card. It took six months for me to get a card had a DC, and it cost me 30 bucks.

You know what they say about karma? Right?

[pierrethomasfan]

Bottom line is its a douche bag move over a five dollar card. It took six months for me to get a card had a DC, and it cost me 30 bucks.

You know what they say about karma? Right?

No it's not. I didn't get what I paid for. End of discussion

[mufasa]

No it's not. I didn't get what I paid for. End of discussion

Actually, according to usps you did. You just lied to get your way like the spoiled brat you are. And i am sure it is actually your mommy and daddy who didnt get what they paid for.....supposedly. End of discussion.

[mfw13]

If its says delivered, then that means its in the mailbox.

This is not necessarily true. All it means is that the post office says it was delivered, not that it actually was delivered to the correct address.

I asked my letter carrier about this several years ago, and he mentioned that many letter carriers mark all their Delivery Confirmations as delivered at the beginning or end of their route, not individually at the precise time the package is delivered, in order to save time/effort.

Only signature confirmation guarantees delivery to the right person at the right address.

[ediii33]

No it's not. I didn't get what I paid for. End of discussion

Says the guy who supercollects a third string RB.

[hugh]

If its says delivered, then that means its in the mailbox. If its not, then it was stolen or lost, but that is not the sellers responsibility. If it shows delivered then the seller has completed their part as long as its in condition as described.

if it was stolen or lost, IT IS ABSOLUTELY the seller's responsibility. That's what insurance is for...

[hugh]

The buyer is responsible for insurance. So you should have insured the card if you are that worried about five dollar purchase. I would not even bother filing a claim on something that cheap.

100% wrong..........insurance is for the seller

[ediii33]

if it was stolen or lost, IT IS ABSOLUTELY the seller's responsibility. That's what insurance is for...

I say we get on horseback and hand delivery the things. Therefore it cuts down on the douche bags and crybabies whinning about five bucks.

[ediii33]

100% wrong..........insurance is for the seller

Thats already been established. Thanks.

[bigzig]

Insurance wouldn't matter in PTF's case. If the PO marked ot dlvd they aren't going to pay out on an insurance claim for non delivery.


If the seller was responsible for lost or stolen mail after it was delivered there would be no point in any seller protection at all. There would be a lot more "stolen" mail if DC didn't mean anything.

It's a crappy situation to be in, but there is only so much a seller can do. I'm glad ebay understands these things happen from time to time and ate the loss. It's not really fair to the buyer or seller who is legitimately a victim of lost/ misdelivered or stolen mail.

[pierrethomasfan]

Insurance wouldn't matter in PTF's case. If the PO marked ot dlvd they aren't going to pay out on an insurance claim for non delivery.


If the seller was responsible for lost or stolen mail after it was delivered there would be no point in any seller protection at all. There would be a lot more "stolen" mail if DC didn't mean anything.

It's a crappy situation to be in, but there is only so much a seller can do. I'm glad ebay understands these things happen from time to time and ate the loss. It's not really fair to the buyer or seller who is legitimately a victim of lost/ misdelivered or stolen mail.

Exactly. Thank you

[Jackg1980]

if it was stolen or lost, IT IS ABSOLUTELY the seller's responsibility. That's what insurance is for...

100% wrong, after it states its delivered the seller is not responsible for theft or someone losing it. The mailbox is your property, and therefore you are now the owner. I do not need insurance for something you own.

[pierrethomasfan]

100% wrong, after it states its delivered the seller is not responsible for theft or someone losing it. The mailbox is your property, and therefore you are now the owner. I do not need insurance for something you own.

Can't tell if serious :eek::confused:

[Jackg1980]

Can't tell if serious :eek::confused:

What is there not to understand? I went thru this scenario a couple of times and both times my funds were release immediately after they say it was delivered. They said that I completed my part of the sale.

[pierrethomasfan]

What is there not to understand? I went thru this scenario a couple of times and both times my funds were release immediately after they say it was delivered. They said that I completed my part of the sale.

Um just because it states it was delivered, doesn't mean it was delivered to the correct place

[Jackg1980]

Um just because it states it was delivered, doesn't mean it was delivered to the correct place

If its states its delivered its no longer the sellers responsibility. A kid could of stole your mail, someone at your house could of lost it. The mailman could of stole your mail, the Neighbors etc... When it states its delivered it becomes your property.

[pierrethomasfan]

If its states its delivered its no longer the sellers responsibility. A kid could of stole your mail, someone at your house could of lost it. The mailman could of stole your mail, the Neighbors etc... When it states its delivered it becomes your property.

Well then that is dumb because it wasn't stolen. I got everything else so no one would steal just one mailer and not the others

[Jackg1980]

Well then that is dumb because it wasn't stolen. I got everything else so no one would steal just one mailer and not the others

That is just an assumption. So if someone stole your mail from your mailbox then that is the sellers fault?

[pierrethomasfan]

That is just an assumption. So if someone stole your mail from your mailbox then that is the sellers fault?

No one stole it. Nothing else is missing and all my neighbors are honest. I've known most of them as I graduated with them and their parents are great. It's either people I know, or elderly people

[bigzig]

No one stole it. Nothing else is missing and all my neighbors are honest. I've known most of them as I graduated with them and their parents are great. It's either people I know, or elderly people

Whether it was stolen or mis delivered really doesn't matter. The seller is technically off the hook on non receipt claims once it is marked delivered. Otherwise there would be even more scammers then there already are.

The seller can only do so much short of hand delivering it to you. You were fortunate Ebay ate the loss. They could've told you that you were SOL and there's nothing you could've done. The seller did what he was suppose to.

[Krayzie83]

Had this happen to me last week as well. My mail delivery comes around noon and it said that the card was delivered at 8:00 pm.. Thought for sure it ended up at the wrong house but the very next day the mail man dropped it off to my house.. Hope you have the same luck!

[Jackg1980]

No one stole it. Nothing else is missing and all my neighbors are honest. I've known most of them as I graduated with them and their parents are great. It's either people I know, or elderly people

Even in your case they did not hold the seller responsible.

[wingah]

This whole thing is getting ridiculous. Please just drop it. PTF or the rest of you please stop ranting and raving at each other. Fighting on the internet will not solve anything.

[Jackg1980]

This whole thing is getting ridiculous. Please just drop it. PTF or the rest of you please stop ranting and raving at each other. Fighting on the internet will not solve anything.

So you are saying this is just an average BO thread?