View Full Version : Brons Hollinger PER this Year..for me its fun to watch..
bettydaw1970
03-03-2013, 06:55 PM
he is very close to the best ever actual, and best ever adjusted (jordan and wilt)...31.7-31.8ish
i watch it everytime he plays... an average game will keep it the same..a bad game will drop it .2, a great game will raise it .2
its kind of like watching a baseball player that is hitting .400 late in the season..
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics
31.76 before todays game..it will probably click up to 31.80 after today game
IamRalpho
03-03-2013, 06:57 PM
he is very close to the best ever actual, and best ever adjusted (jordan and wilt)...31.7-31.8ish
i watch it everytime he plays... an average game will keep it the same..a bad game will drop it .2, a great game will raise it .2
its kind of like watching a baseball player that is hitting .400 late in the season..
Except PER isn't a statistic that is counted for major stats or the record books like average.
tristan20
03-03-2013, 09:33 PM
Except PER isn't a statistic that is counted for major stats or the record books like average.
Its a combination of stats.
What PER can do, is summarize a player's statistical accomplishments in a single number. That allows us to unify the disparate data on each player we try to track in our heads (e.g., Corey Maggette: free-throw machine, good rebounder, decent shooter, poor passer, etc.) so that we can move on to evaluating what might be missing from the stats
Orangejello727
03-03-2013, 09:37 PM
Does PER also calculate floor sense, leadership and raw talent on decision making under pressure?
jbmets95
03-03-2013, 09:41 PM
Im pretty sure defense isnt in their either...
haha but i thot he had a lower PER last year
i thot it was a bigger gap b/w the 2 years...
IamRalpho
03-03-2013, 09:41 PM
Its a combination of stats.
What PER can do, is summarize a player's statistical accomplishments in a single number. That allows us to unify the disparate data on each player we try to track in our heads (e.g., Corey Maggette: free-throw machine, good rebounder, decent shooter, poor passer, etc.) so that we can move on to evaluating what might be missing from the stats
I know what PER is, I didnt need the breakdown of it.
My point was its not a stat that can be put into the record books, like Ted Williams hitting .406 or Wilt Chamberlain scoring 100. What Lebron is doing is impressive, but you cant use that and hitting .400 the same.
We had a major fight/debate on these boards recently about Hollingers PER and NBA.coms PER, where as hitting .400 or scoring average isnt debatable at all. That is concrete and counts in the NBA record books.
jbmets95
03-03-2013, 09:42 PM
and more importantly i dont like using this because amare is top 20.... it doesnt count turnovers or defense because amare aint no top 20 or higher then tyson...
and andray blatche?
jbmets95
03-03-2013, 09:43 PM
altho this is mostly for fantasy, i actually think its not a terrible system...
Player Rater - Free Fantasy Basketball - ESPN (http://games.espn.go.com/fba/playerrater?)
howethegreat
03-03-2013, 11:16 PM
per+war+qbr=espn carp
bettydaw1970
03-04-2013, 03:43 PM
his hollinger PER actually dropped from 31.76 to 31.75 after yesterdays game..
31.71 is the highest "actual" PER ever..jordan in 87-88
bigcwd2000
03-04-2013, 03:52 PM
Looks like Lebron has led this category since the 07-08 Season. Interesting.
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