ESPN's NFL Power Rankings are up and #1 is

[Seahawks fan]

The Seahawks of course...

So stupid to even have Power Rankings out now without FA being finished and without the draft..still with the East Coast Biased it's nice to see my Hawks get some love for a change.

NFL Power Rankings: How they voted - NFC West Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/94662/nfl-power-rankings-how-they-voted-36)

[matt roberson]

Interesting but dumb.

[Gore21]

Haha. Niners own that DV and will for the next 3-5 seasons. To many core players locked up with no signs of cap hell.

[BostonNut]

"East Coast Bias"....:rolleyes:

[Gore21]

Not so much a bias just the hawks a sexy pick because they added several big names players this off season. I do think Russ Wilson is legit, but the Seahawks outside of their own stadium wouldn't scare me... They benefitted from a lot of calls last season, this season will be much tougher on them. Will be nice seeing some flags thrown at their PI defensive backfield..

[MrMasterpiece]

Haha. Niners own that DV and will for the next 3-5 seasons. To many core players locked up with no signs of cap hell.

I agree. The niners can take so many draft chances with all the picks. They just received three more compensatory picks yesterday. So now I think they have 17. Not to mention the draft choices they do make that they dont trade won't make any money. So Seattle please keep signing people and see if there's any money left for Russell Wilson in a couple years:)!

[ninjacookies]

Haha. Niners own that DV and will for the next 3-5 seasons. To many core players locked up with no signs of cap hell.

We'll see about that.

Considering the game at candlestick was close last year when russell didn't have run option at his disposal, and niners got obliterated by Seattle at the dome even when you had Kaep.

Should be a fun division to watch for years to come, that's for damn sure.

[BlueReloaded]

Haha. Niners own that DV and will for the next 3-5 seasons. To many core players locked up with no signs of cap hell.

You are still catching up to the Seahawks domination of the division to own anything. 49ers were irrelevant for a decade.

[BlueReloaded]

Not so much a bias just the hawks a sexy pick because they added several big names players this off season. I do think Russ Wilson is legit, but the Seahawks outside of their own stadium wouldn't scare me... They benefitted from a lot of calls last season, this season will be much tougher on them. Will be nice seeing some flags thrown at their PI defensive backfield..

Yes, because the Seahawks were horrible last year, right? How does 42-13 taste?

[howethegreat]

how are the packers that high when they lost their top wr, didnt make any moves to help their d or o-line and are likely losing finley?

[asujbl]

Haha. Niners own that DV and will for the next 3-5 seasons. To many core players locked up with no signs of cap hell.

3-5 seasons?

Pretty easy to say "no signs of cap hell" when your 2015 roster consists of only 16 players under contract currently - one of them not being Colin Kaepernick and the makeup contract he'll want (if he performs) for being so underpaid previously.

[ncluett]

Go Hawks!

I'd prefer to fly under the radar for a while, but maybe those days are over. :)!

NFC Worst no more! should be fun....

[Gore21]

3-5 seasons?

Pretty easy to say "no signs of cap hell" when your 2015 roster consists of only 16 players under contract currently - one of them not being Colin Kaepernick and the makeup contract he'll want (if he performs) for being so underpaid previously.

Look at those key players through 2016 as well... Harbaugh vs Carol 3-1, give me Jim anyday.. easy to kick a young teams butt like ours after a road win in NE on a short week

[BlueReloaded]

Look at those key players through 2016 as well... Harbaugh vs Carol 3-1, give me Jim anyday.. easy to kick a young teams butt like ours after a road win in NE on a short week

You understand the Seahawks were coming in off a road game to play a Thursday night road game and still the 49ers could only muster 13 points.

How does 42-13 taste?

#BALTY

[Gore21]

3-5 seasons?

Pretty easy to say "no signs of cap hell" when your 2015 roster consists of only 16 players under contract currently - one of them not being Colin Kaepernick and the makeup contract he'll want (if he performs) for being so underpaid previously.

Thanks to the new CBA Kap won't be on the books for a sizeab I e amount until 2014

[Gore21]

You understand the Seahawks were coming in off a road game to play a Thursday night road game and still the 49ers could only muster 13 points.

How does 42-13 taste?

#BALTY

Really bro 1 win in two seasons. .. How's that taste.

[BlueReloaded]

Really bro 1 win in two seasons. .. How's that taste.

Difference between a team rebuilding to a team that has been drafting in the top 10 for a decade. You guys still have a lot of ground to make up before owning anything in the division.

[xbignick]

Where does the whole east coast bias myth stem from?

Does it have to do with coverage? If so, you can't blame networks for covering you know, the teams with the most interest to get views - that's basic logic.

If it has to do with ESPN - it's terrible in analysis...so yeah.

Someone explain it to me?

[asujbl]

Thanks to the new CBA Kap won't be on the books for a sizeab I e amount until 2014

I'm well aware of that - but you're saying they aren't in "cap hell" for 3-5 seasons when in reality it's for 2013 and 2014 - by 2015 they don't even have a whole team of 22 guys under contract.

[Gore21]

Difference between a team rebuilding to a team that has been drafting in the top 10 for a decade. You guys still have a lot of ground to make up before owning anything in the division.

Seriously? Back to back nfc championship games. Think were good.. Gonna be fun. .

[Hawksmack]

Seahawks finally getting some love.And for the village idiot saying its the Niners division for the next 3-5 years.Ha ha you wish.Hawks will put your Colin K. in a body bag the next time we play them.Go Hawks!

[BlueReloaded]

Where does the whole east coast bias myth stem from?

Does it have to do with coverage? If so, you can't blame networks for covering you know, the teams with the most interest to get views - that's basic logic.

If it has to do with ESPN - it's terrible in analysis...so yeah.

Someone explain it to me?

It's a mixture of the two. First, they tend to not talk about the west coast teams; and second, when they do a fan can tell that they haven't been paying attention.

[Gore21]

I'm well aware of that - but you're saying they aren't in "cap hell" for 3-5 seasons when in reality it's for 2013 and 2014 - by 2015 they don't even have a whole team of 22 guys under contract.

Your aware of dead money right? Signing bonuses that exceed current rosters? We're structured the right way. Hope Seattle can say that writing the checks now to try to stay relevant. .

[groundsupport]

Yep and when Russell Wilson blows out his knee from running around, trying to extend the play, they will be in the same spot at the Redskins...

[BlueReloaded]

Seriously? Back to back nfc championship games. Think were good.. Gonna be fun. .

I have no idea what you are saying. Finish High School before talking smack.

But, I think the correct response is the 49ers were a doormat for the last decade.

[Gore21]

Seahawks finally getting some love.And for the village idiot saying its the Niners division for the next 3-5 years.Ha ha you wish.Hawks will put your Colin K. in a body bag the next time we play them.Go Hawks!

Did the village troll just call me the village idiot? Lmao think you should be here for at least a year before name calling.

[asujbl]

Where does the whole east coast bias myth stem from?

Does it have to do with coverage? If so, you can't blame networks for covering you know, the teams with the most interest to get views - that's basic logic.

If it has to do with ESPN - it's terrible in analysis...so yeah.

Someone explain it to me?

It's all time zones.

ESPN looks at it's programming and realizes that "live" shows (whether Sportscenter, PTI, whatever) are shown when people in the East Coast time zone get off work. They sit around eating dinner with their families watching the shows when they air. West Coast people are at work. They get caught watching the repeat episode or a condensed live episode at 9:00 eastern when they are off work.

Same thing as NFL on Sundays. They gear the pregame shows to the East Coast because we are all awake and watching at 11:00. West Coasters are still asleep.

College is even worse because things like Gameday start at 6 am on the West Coast because of 12:00 kickoffs for the first games.

That's why "traditionally", not as much anymore with the implement of all the ways to watch, the East Coast has gotten more coverage.

[BlueReloaded]

Your aware of dead money right? Signing bonuses that exceed current rosters? We're structured the right way. Hope Seattle can say that writing the checks now to try to stay relevant. .

You can stop talking out of your rear anytime now. All of the free agent signings are for 1 or 2 years--and are up before the core exits their rookie deals.

[Gore21]

I have no idea what you are saying. Finish High School before talking smack.

But, I think the correct response is the 49ers were a doormat for the last decade.

Ha wow. You ruined a fun thread. Got geometry got to run .. loser

[BlueReloaded]

Did the village troll just call me the village idiot? Lmao think you should be here for at least a year before name calling.

SMH. Of course! The amount of time one has belonged to BO forums directly relates to ones intelligence. Why haven't I discovered that before!

Inconceivable!

[asujbl]

Your aware of dead money right? Signing bonuses that exceed current rosters? We're structured the right way. Hope Seattle can say that writing the checks now to try to stay relevant. .

I'm well aware.

You are aware the Niners only have 1.8 million of dead money in 2015 (Anthony Davis) - and 65 million of committed on 16 players - which leaves them with around 55 million in cap space to sign or bring back 37 players including Kaep.

[BlueReloaded]

Ha wow. You ruined a fun thread. Got geometry got to run .. loser

Run along little kid. Let the grownups talk.

[groundsupport]

lol this is starting to get good.

Its March 19th, 2013, 6 months away from any meaningful football

and the Seahawks fans act as if they won something.. lol!!!!!!

[Gore21]

Run along little kid. Let the grownups talk.

Dude, if only you could know. I'm out.

[SacGWYNN19]

Where does the whole east coast bias myth stem from?

Does it have to do with coverage? If so, you can't blame networks for covering you know, the teams with the most interest to get views - that's basic logic.

If it has to do with ESPN - it's terrible in analysis...so yeah.

Someone explain it to me?

East Coast bias is real for most sports. Football is actually the exception. Baseball, baseketball, college football & college basketball - it is quite real. The reasoning is that most games start after the East Coast has turned in for the night. Football, from a networking standpoint, does not apply as everyone has early and late games. It's not like there is a 10pm game on Sunday night exclusive to the West coast.

[BlueReloaded]

lol this is starting to get good.

Its March 19th, 2013, 6 months away from any meaningful football

and the Seahawks fans act as if they won something.. lol!!!!!!

Who's acting like they won something? Pretty much all the Seahawks fans in here are just correcting loudmouth children with who jumped on the 49er bandwagon in 2011.

Not our problem if they can't handle facts.

[RedSoxFan28]

"East coast Bias" yet the top two teams are (NFC) west coast :rolleyes:

[Gore21]

Please insult me one more time... Hate to see you eat Crow.

[matt roberson]

how are the packers that high when they lost their top wr, didnt make any moves to help their d or o-line and are likely losing finley?

Just based off the fact that they have Rodgers.....

but to touch on your points, I don't think he was our top receiver, it's more like 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b... and Jennings was injured most of the season.

Also just getting injured players back makes them a different team.

And Finley is a bum! always has been always will be....save it, I've heard it before and have no interest in arguing about it again.

[SacGWYNN19]

I have no idea what you are saying. Finish High School before talking smack.

But, I think the correct response is the 49ers were a doormat for the last decade.

If you take out 1 year(2005), there is a whopping difference of 3 games between the two teams. Other than that, your rationale is spot on.

Especially with the number of Superbowls the Seahawks won over that time frame as well.....oh wait.

[groundsupport]

Who's acting like they won something? Pretty much all the Seahawks fans in here are just correcting loudmouth children with who jumped on the 49er bandwagon in 2011.

Not our problem if they can't handle facts.

You made this thread didn't ya? Just a coincidence that a Seahawks fan made the thread and the Seahawks were #1 Ranked team on ESPN on March 19th, 2013?

[Chaddie84]

I didn't think swapping Percy with Jennings and picking up a 1, 3 and 7 would make the Vikings stock drop 5 slots, but what do I know.

I also am surprised about the Packers not dropping a spot after hardly doing anything in free agency and letting one of their top WRs go.

[BlueReloaded]

You made this thread didn't ya? Just a coincidence that a Seahawks fan made the thread and the Seahawks were #1 Ranked team on ESPN on March 19th, 2013?

I did not make this thread.

I was responding to the chest pumping of 49ers fans.

I am sure if team Y would have been ranked #1 in the power rankings, a fan of team Y would have made a similar thread. I'm not sure what your point was as the person who made this thread simply posted a link.

[groundsupport]

My bad, I knew it was a Seahawks fan that made the thread. Thought it was you.

Just found it funny to brag about this power rankings.

Cliff Avril isn't something to be jumping for joy about..

[nateyad]

It's going to be a great rivalry between the 49ers and Seahawks for years to come. I just seriously hope neither of the QB's suffer a serious injury. The thing I like about both Wilson and Kaep is they take minimal hits, unlike RG III. Can't wait to watch Kaep for years.

[MarshallCutler6]

More pre season optimism, like it means anything that they were ranked #1. Because they were ranked #1 that doesnt automatically mean they will be any good next year, like the Seahawks fans on this Board would have you think. They arent even the best team in their own division.

[BlueReloaded]

More pre season optimism, like it means anything that they were ranked #1. Because they were ranked #1 that doesnt automatically mean they will be any good next year, like the Seahawks fans on this Board would have you think. They arent even the best team in their own division.

What is fueling this is a half-game difference in the standings and a 42-13 beatdown by the Seahawks in late December.

If not for the half-game difference in the standings, last seasons playoff fortunes most likely would have been flipped.

[Seahawks fan]

Yeah both the 9ers and Seahawks are stacked and they both have one of the best GMs to keep the cap space going.. it should be a great rivalry no doubt.

[rondog2001]

You understand the Seahawks were coming in off a road game to play a Thursday night road game and still the 49ers could only muster 13 points.

How does 42-13 taste?

#BALTY

You understand the niners were coming off their biggest and most emotional win of the season to date in NE. This game was tee'd up for sea.

I will say the hawks fans have a lot of balls for their confidence at being #1 seeing they last won a Super Bowl when? Niner haters will be around for awhile. 18 of the most dominate years ever can create such hate.

It's always a good time to live in San Francisco. Even better when the giants and niners are dominating and hell the warriors are even getting better

NFC west is still the niners to lose. ;)

[BlueReloaded]

You understand the niners were coming off their biggest and most emotional win of the season to date in NE. This game was tee'd up for sea.

I will say the hawks fans have a lot of balls for their confidence at being #1 seeing they last won a Super Bowl when? Niner haters will be around for awhile. 18 of the most dominate years ever can create such hate.

It's always a good time to live in San Francisco. Even better when the giants and niners are dominating and hell the warriors are even getting better

NFC west is still the niners to lose. ;)

Niner fans haven't been around for the past 10 years. A lot of talk for a team still living in the 80s.

[Headbando5]

lol this is starting to get good.

Its March 19th, 2013, 6 months away from any meaningful football

and the Seahawks fans act as if they won something.. lol!!!!!!

and you're acting as if Russell runs anything like RG3.... lol!!!!!!

[Oilngo]

Rams still take the west so whatever...

[Seahawks fan]

Rams still take the west so whatever...

No it will be the Cardinals..don't forget they started the season 4-0 beating the Pats in NE lol

[Oilngo]

No it will be the Cardinals..don't forget they started the season 4-0 beating the Pats in NE lol

I was being serious.

[Gore21]

You understand the niners were coming off their biggest and most emotional win of the season to date in NE. This game was tee'd up for sea.

I will say the hawks fans have a lot of balls for their confidence at being #1 seeing they last won a Super Bowl when? Niner haters will be around for awhile. 18 of the most dominate years ever can create such hate.

It's always a good time to live in San Francisco. Even better when the giants and niners are dominating and hell the warriors are even getting better

NFC west is still the niners to lose. ;)


You wouldn't even have a Half game difference with out the refs giving you the packers game!!

[Seahawks fan]

You wouldn't even have a Half game difference with out the refs giving you the packers game!!

And that game would have been the hawks sooner had it not been for a blown PI call on Chancellor extending GBs only td pass.

[BlueReloaded]

You wouldn't even have a Half game difference with out the refs giving you the packers game!!

How did it feel beating Bradford and the Rams... Oh wait...

[groundsupport]

and you're acting as if Russell runs anything like RG3.... lol!!!!!!

How many running QBs lasted 5 years without being hurt

Don't count on him.

History shows.

[groundsupport]

The Lions beat the Rams and Hawks. Lol

[BlueReloaded]

How many running QBs lasted 5 years without being hurt

Don't count on him.

History shows.

Wilson is more of a Steve Young (scrambler) than a Michael Vick (runner).

[Seahawks fan]

How many running QBs lasted 5 years without being hurt

Don't count on him.

History shows.

Same could be said for Kaep.. the diff is as of now the Hawks have Flynn for a backup.. the 49ers have???

[Gore21]

How did it feel beating Bradford and the Rams... Oh wait...

Ha, NFC champion feels good to hear! Try saying it niners won the NFC in 2012.. Yet Seattle is better ?!? Lmao?

[wakingbake]

The Seahawks of course...

So stupid to even have Power Rankings out now without FA being finished and without the draft..still with the East Coast Biased it's nice to see my Hawks get some love for a change.

NFL Power Rankings: How they voted - NFC West Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/94662/nfl-power-rankings-how-they-voted-36)

Congrats anyways. Seahawks definately look strong

[BlueReloaded]

Ha, NFC champion feels good to hear! Try saying it niners won the NFC in 2012.. Yet Seattle is better ?!? Lmao?

Yes, the 49ers were better last year, but not by much by the end of the year. I believe this off season, the Seahawks have passed them in talent and potential.

[LiftingAddict]

I'm excited for this upcoming season, really glad to see some of the acquisitions so far. However, each year a team is given the preseason crown and take a total dump when the season starts. I'm excited for the upcoming year, but it is a contained and cautious excitement. Either way, the NFC West is looking to make some noise.

[LiftingAddict]

Yes, the 49ers were better last year, but not by much by the end of the year. I believe this off season, the Seahawks have passed them in talent and potential.

I'm as big of a Seahawks fan there is, but the Seahawks haven't passed @&$@. Sure they look good on paper, but let's hold judgement until we see the finished product on the field.

[Pejarox7620]

I'm as big of a Seahawks fan there is, but the Seahawks haven't passed @&$@. Sure they look good on paper, but let's hold judgement until we see the finished product on the field.
I would have to definately agree
I didn't want to say anything and was going to let my team talk for themselves this year, but this kid is so pumped about his #1 ranking it's funny. I can say the Seahawks did get better this year but i don't see them having the #1 record at the end of the year, i dont even see them having a top 5 but we shall see. Getting heated about a season that hasn't even started yet shows how much last year must have hurt. Just remember just because it looks good on paper doesn't mean it will always work (Dream Team Eagles). Anyway Good Luck this year and we shall see who will be on top at the end of the year

[matt roberson]

Wilson is more of a Steve Young (scrambler) than a Michael Vick (runner).

Same could be said for Kaep.. the diff is as of now the Hawks have Flynn for a backup.. the 49ers have???

Ha, NFC champion feels good to hear! Try saying it niners won the NFC in 2012.. Yet Seattle is better ?!? Lmao?

Congrats anyways. Seahawks definately look strong

Yes, the 49ers were better last year, but not by much by the end of the year. I believe this off season, the Seahawks have passed them in talent and potential.

They are both good teams and the NFC is loaded with good teams....it's going to be a great year for football.......

But lets save the pissing contests until they are at the very least taking the field in preseason.....you guys are not accomplishing anything here except making your homer-ism obvious.

[rondog2001]

Niner fans haven't been around for the past 10 years. A lot of talk for a team still living in the 80s.

80s lol their run went to 1998 ...

[88horsepower]

Preseason rankings are about as useful as an ejection seat on a helicopter.

[Brysond]

Most of the comments on the first page are biased.

And why is this relevant? A pre draft power rankings with free agency not over? Ok espn.
The only move that put Seattle over San Fran in these "power rankings" was trading a 1st round, and more for an injury prone diva. Good luck with that

[Patriots lover]

YOU NEVER WANT TO BE RANKED #1.

I know from experience.

[AP4MVP]

I dont think they meant seahawks i think they meant the vikings were #1

[LARIOS]

Preseason rankings are about as useful as an ejection seat on a helicopter.

Lol good one!

[oldcardcolector]

I called that like a mother$%#%^

[LARIOS]

It's going to be fun watching my Niners and Seahawks play. I can't wait for the season to start

[HBMC]

You understand the Seahawks were coming in off a road game to play a Thursday night road game and still the 49ers could only muster 13 points.

How does 42-13 taste?

#BALTY

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[duwal]

What is fueling this is a half-game difference in the standings and a 42-13 beatdown by the Seahawks in late December.

If not for the half-game difference in the standings, last seasons playoff fortunes most likely would have been flipped.


well not really because if we're going to be playing the 'if' game than the Seahawks would be the same or worse last season after their loss to Green Bay with a Russell Wilson pass being intercepted to end the game

[duwal]

Yes, the 49ers were better last year, but not by much by the end of the year. I believe this off season, the Seahawks have passed them in talent and potential.


but honestly don't you think there is more talk/bragging about a team who's franchise win-loss is under .500 with 1 Super Bowl APPEARANCE in what is it 36 seasons?? Everyone is going to be excited about their team (well aside from Raiders, yeah they suck, and 5 or 6 other teams) but for some members to be shooting off when the extent of their team's history success goes as high as playoff wins, even one member stating the death of the others QB is just appalling and such bad taste

[silver_225]

What is fueling this is a half-game difference in the standings and a 42-13 beatdown by the Seahawks in late December.

If not for the half-game difference in the standings, last seasons playoff fortunes most likely would have been flipped.

All you do is mention the 42-13 loss. The Niners went out and handled their business against the Packers in the playoffs to host the Championship game at Candlestick against the 'best' team in the NFL with the winner going to the Super Bowl. The only thing that needed to happen for this showdown was for the 'best' team in the NFL needed to beat the Falcons. Guess we know what happened there.

If not for the half-game difference? You sound as bad as your coach after being gifted the game against the Packers. What is the overall head to head record between the two coaches?

[LincecumPC]

I'm as big of a Seahawks fan there is, but the Seahawks haven't passed @&$@. Sure they look good on paper, but let's hold judgement until we see the finished product on the field.

Finally someone speaking objectively. Not sure why threads like these always have to turn to name calling and chest thumping, but both the niners and Seahawks will be fighting for years to come. Rams are much tougher with fisher around as well so the division is shaping up to be the newest black and blue division.

I'm a huge niners fan and have been there through the dynasty years and the lean years. I think it's funny how any niners fan is labeled a bandwagoner?

[FreeMan12406]

Yes, because the Seahawks were horrible last year, right? How does 42-13 taste?

Not near as good as 5 Super Bowl trophies taste.

[trixstar]

Why do people mention past super bowl trophies regarding teams who last won a SB 20 years ago.

[FreeMan12406]

Why do people mention past super bowl trophies regarding teams who last won a SB 20 years ago.

Well technically its been 19 years.

But I did forget about the rule that says championships stop counting after a certain time. Good call!

[seahawks4ever]

Lots of smack talking going on already. I'm as big a Seahawks fan as there is, but before you all start popping off about wins, losses, and the NFC west, try to remember one very important thing. Since 2001, when the four teams currently in the NFC west were all together:

Rams- NFC West champs-2, super bowl wins-0
Cardinals- NFC west champs-2, super bowl champs-0
49ers- NFC West champs-3, super bowl wins-0
Seahawks-NFC West champs-5, super bowl wins-0

What's that mean?

Ain't not a one of us has done anything at all.

Seahawks look legit
Niners look legit
Rams looked pretty dang good last year too

Gonna be a heck of a ride in 2013. I'll be cheering for my hawks like always, praying no one gets injured, and hoping the pieces fall into place to make a run and win a super bowl. So will everyone of you.

[ninjacookies]

Rams- NFC West champs-2, super bowl wins-0
Cardinals- NFC west champs-2, super bowl champs-0
49ers- NFC West champs-3, super bowl wins-0
Seahawks-NFC West champs-5, super bowl wins-0

What's that mean?

Ain't not a one of us has done anything at all.



LOL I agree wholeheartedly.

Always awesome to dwell on decades past like a WW2 vet, amirite?

2013 should be fun.

[Chrisp253]

I agree. The niners can take so many draft chances with all the picks. They just received three more compensatory picks yesterday. So now I think they have 17. Not to mention the draft choices they do make that they dont trade won't make any money. So Seattle please keep signing people and see if there's any money left for Russell Wilson in a couple years:)!

they sure are gona have to cut a lot of players to keep 17 kids from the draft!

[Chrisp253]

Well technically its been 19 years.

But I did forget about the rule that says championships stop counting after a certain time. Good call!

considering its a what have you done for me lately league.. yeah i'd say a championship won 19 years ago doesn't mean crap on the field today, tomorrow, or next year.

[Seahawks fan]

Well technically its been 19 years.

But I did forget about the rule that says championships stop counting after a certain time. Good call!

Technically there is a certain time.. I'm pretty sure no one cares to hear about the last time the Cardinals or Browns won a championship.

[LincecumPC]

19 years is a long time but at least I can still remember 3 championships pretty well from my youth. I'm pretty sure if it were the other way around, Seahawks fans would not be discounting 5 titles either, regardless of how long ago they were.

[seahawks4ever]

19 years is a long time but at least I can still remember 3 championships pretty well from my youth. I'm pretty sure if it were the other way around, Seahawks fans would not be discounting 5 titles either, regardless of how long ago they were.

Not every fan would think that way however I know what you are saying. I still hear people talk about the Seahawks super bowl loss as if it was yesterday. I can only imagine what some fans would do with a Super Bowl...even if it happened in the 80's.

For the record, I don't discount any teams history. My point is simply this: The Seahawks fans in here talking about 1 regular season game irritates me. The 49ers fans (and will throw in the Cowboys fans and Raiders fans too) that are in here talking about super bowls irritates me too. The NFL is all about what have you done for me lately and in twelve years, not one team I have mentioned has done a freaking thing.

[matt roberson]

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[88horsepower]

19 years is a long time but at least I can still remember 3 championships pretty well from my youth. I'm pretty sure if it were the other way around, Seahawks fans would not be discounting 5 titles either, regardless of how long ago they were.

I have a lot of respect for the Seahawks as an organization. They've had some of my favorite players in their uniforms over the years (Steve Largent, Curt Warner & Kenny Easley to name a few). They do have a very impressive fan base as evidenced by the "12th man" being such a factor in their home games. However, any human being, regardless of what team they root for, who discounts or minimizes in any way what the 49ers accomplished is either a fool or envious or both. I couldn't care less how long ago those titles were won. It's an impressive feat and one that has only been bested by one franchise (the 6-time champion Steelers). The Hawks have yet to win just one Super Bowl. Heck, let's put this in perspective a bit. The 49ers have been to 6 Super Bowls and won 5 of them. The Seahawks have 7 Division Titles and 0 Super Bowl victories. The Niners have been to nearly as many Super Bowls as the Seahawks have Division Titles. Someday the Seahawks might actually win a ring or two, but until they do they will always be licking the boots of the 49ers. You can't talk ridiculous amounts of smack when you haven't a single Lombardi Trophy in your case. Heck, the only have one Halas Trophy in their case. And though it was nearly 20 years ago when the Niners won their last title, they still have far more to brag about than the Seahawks do.

[LincecumPC]

Not every fan would think that way however I know what you are saying. I still hear people talk about the Seahawks super bowl loss as if it was yesterday. I can only imagine what some fans would do with a Super Bowl...even if it happened in the 80's.

For the record, I don't discount any teams history. My point is simply this: The Seahawks fans in here talking about 1 regular season game irritates me. The 49ers fans (and will throw in the Cowboys fans and Raiders fans too) that are in here talking about super bowls irritates me too. The NFL is all about what have you done for me lately and in twelve years, not one team I have mentioned has done a freaking thing.

Understood. I just have a lot of respect for all divisional teams. No matter how poor a team may be, it's always a fight because all the teams know each other so well. Let's just let the teams play and react then haha.

[LincecumPC]

I have a lot of respect for the Seahawks as an organization. They've had some of my favorite players in their uniforms over the years (Steve Largent, Curt Warner & Kenny Easley to name a few). They do have a very impressive fan base as evidenced by the "12th man" being such a factor in their home games. However, any human being, regardless of what team they root for, who discounts or minimizes in any way what the 49ers accomplished is either a fool or envious or both. I couldn't care less how long ago those titles were won. It's an impressive feat and one that has only been bested by one franchise (the 6-time champion Steelers). The Hawks have yet to win just one Super Bowl. Heck, let's put this in perspective a bit. The 49ers have been to 6 Super Bowls and won 5 of them. The Seahawks have 7 Division Titles and 0 Super Bowl victories. The Niners have been to nearly as many Super Bowls as the Seahawks have Division Titles. Someday the Seahawks might actually win a ring or two, but until they do they will always be licking the boots of the 49ers. You can't talk ridiculous amounts of smack when you haven't a single Lombardi Trophy in your case. Heck, the only have one Halas Trophy in their case. And though it was nearly 20 years ago when the Niners won their last title, they still have far more to brag about than the Seahawks do.

Well put. and any Niners fan who says that the Seahawks are not a threat to us, is lying or a fool. It's dumb to keep harping on the 42-13 loss but it did happen and has to put the Niners on alert. Russell is legit, and so it Kaep, so it'll be fun and nerveracking for years to come.

[88horsepower]

Well put. and any Niners fan who says that the Seahawks are not a threat to us, is lying or a fool. It's dumb to keep harping on the 42-13 loss but it did happen and has to put the Niners on alert. Russell is legit, and so it Kaep, so it'll be fun and nerveracking for years to come.

I completely agree with you. Both teams are going to be in a dogfight for some years to come. Both extremely talent-laden. Should be fun watching them duke it out in the coming years.

[LincecumPC]

I completely agree with you. Both teams are going to be in a dogfight for some years to come. Both extremely talent-laden. Should be fun watching them duke it out in the coming years.

For the Niners too, the Rams sort of have their number right now. And I think the Cards will be more disciplined next year with Arians, so I don't necessarily think any divisional games are gimme's.

It will be fun to watch the tight competition but too much stress. lol

[JoshHamilton]

Well technically its been 19 years.

But I did forget about the rule that says championships stop counting after a certain time. Good call!

It's technically been 17, but who's counting?

[matt roberson]

^ 95' season but SB was in Jan of 96' right?

[JoshHamilton]

^ 95' season but SB was in Jan of 96' right?

Yeah. If you count it as the '95 season, it's 18 years. If you count it as the '96 SB, 17

Either way...not 19

[tolrobb]

lol @ a power ranking prior to the draft and with so many free agents unsigned