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HOF_Collector
04-10-2013, 01:15 PM
Lebron plans to rest a few of the Heats last 5 games.

I'm not eloquent when it comes to expressing my opinions but I'll do my best!

I'm not a Lebron fan but I do respect his game and ability. That being said I think this is ridiculous and something should be done by the league to prevent teams from resting players. I know they aren't the only ones that do it but the league fined the Spurs and I was ok with that.

When did it become the norm for players to not bring there ALL each and every night for the fan that gives there hard earned money? Shouldn't fans be able to see the best that there team has to offer or even the team your team is playing? It's no different than a team tanking for a better draft pick in my opinion.

People talk about how it's ok now because sports has reached a new era and it's the thing to do. Why? Why is it the thing to do? Are you weaker, can your body not hold up for 4 more games?

I live in Indy and when they rested there players in I think 09 I was pissed. Rest? You see where that got you!

Should this turn into a Jordan vs. Lebron thread? Probably not but this type of stuff didn't happen then and it shouldn't happen now.

Jordans games started during his championship runs.

90-91 82
91-92 80
92-93 78
95-96 82
96-97 82
97-98 82

Jordan still played all 82 games in numerous seasons even though they had clinched the playoffs and #1 seed long before the season ended. He still found the drive to compete night in to be the best and most importantly give the fans what they wanted to see. Not just Chicago fans but the league.

Hopefully someone agrees with me on this. It just drives me crazy

lyyca
04-10-2013, 01:52 PM
Yes, I agree. Never really understood it. That's why MJ is the greatest of all!

Hoopaholic
04-10-2013, 01:57 PM
Yes, I agree. Never really understood it. That's why MJ is the greatest of all!

+1, Jordan had the killer instinct LeBron lacks.

rookies
04-10-2013, 02:17 PM
Thats not fair at all. Lebron generally plays 78-80 games a year this is the only year he is missing games ever. He is coming off a shortened season and had to play 66 games in about 100 days then went to the finals deep into june then straight to Olympic basketball for the summer then back to the start of the NBA. He needs rest it's about how he feels nobody else. It's not about killer instincts or greatness its about thats alot of games.

murrke03
04-10-2013, 02:21 PM
+1, Jordan had the killer instinct LeBron lacks.

Lol like those two years he quit.

So unfair to try and call Lebron out for this.

asujbl
04-10-2013, 02:23 PM
Thats not fair at all. Lebron generally plays 78-80 games a year this is the only year he is missing games ever. He is coming off a shortened season and had to play 66 games in about 100 days then went to the finals deep into june then straight to Olympic basketball for the summer then back to the start of the NBA. He needs rest it's about how he feels nobody else. It's not about killer instincts or greatness its about thats alot of games.

Have to agree and I'm not a LeBron sympathizer by any stretch - but the Jordan vs LeBron in this context is pretty ridiculous.

Through his first 10 seasons LeBron has played in 878 games - and that doesn't count Olympics and other International Tournaments

Through his first 10 seasons (up until this same point in the season) Jordan had played in 805 games - and not nearly the international competition.

Yes I realize Jordan played college games and LeBron didn't.

LeBron isn't the competitor Jordan was - no one is - but LeBron has killer instinct and the label that he doesn't should be long gone as he is about to win yet another MVP and another Title.

I have no problem with LeBron sitting until the Playoffs.

exclusively_nba
04-10-2013, 02:37 PM
I get the frustration of buying a ticket or wanting to watch these guys on TV, but I think fans who are bummed about this are taking a very short-term view on this whole issue.

Is it worth having a banged up player (which is just about everybody) play in a few relatively meaningless games at the end of the season and head into the playoffs at anything less than 100% in an effort to make the fans happy for 5-10 regular season games?

In my opinion, any fan who is disappointed about this isn't looking at the big picture and is failing to understand that these players are doing all that they can do to be fully healthy for the playoffs. Missing out on opportunities to rest compromises the goal of every NBA team, which is to win in the playoffs.

Here are a couple of articles looking into the wisdom of players playing heavy minutes. This was written last January:
Heavy minutes hurt title chances - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/35752/heavy-minutes-hurt-title-chances)
And a follow-up from this past week:
Playing too much to win it all? - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/56532/playing-too-much-to-win-it-all)

pingbling23
04-10-2013, 03:05 PM
i see it and understand it from both angles. its one of those things that everyone cant be happy.

phdbeckett
04-10-2013, 03:32 PM
When he was in Cleveland, the last reg season game was Fan Appreciation night, where every player would literally give away the Jersey off their back to fans through a CAVS announced promotion. Lebron would sit these games, and thus, no #23 Jersey was awarded...

rookies
04-10-2013, 03:36 PM
When he was in Cleveland, the last reg season game was Fan Appreciation night, where every player would literally give away the Jersey off their back to fans through a CAVS announced promotion. Lebron would sit these games, and thus, no #23 Jersey was awarded...

He can't do that because of UDA. I'am sure he would have loved to give to a fan.

wilsunshines
04-10-2013, 03:39 PM
Have to agree and I'm not a LeBron sympathizer by any stretch - but the Jordan vs LeBron in this context is pretty ridiculous.

Through his first 10 seasons LeBron has played in 878 games - and that doesn't count Olympics and other International Tournaments

Through his first 10 seasons (up until this same point in the season) Jordan had played in 805 games - and not nearly the international competition.

Yes I realize Jordan played college games and LeBron didn't.

LeBron isn't the competitor Jordan was - no one is - but LeBron has killer instinct and the label that he doesn't should be long gone as he is about to win yet another MVP and another Title.

I have no problem with LeBron sitting until the Playoffs.

Funny how the number of years you chose just happens to include the two seasons MJ missed most of.

The fact is that MJ played all 82 games in 9 of his 15 seasons in the NBA. He played in 81 and 80 in two other years.

Lebron has never played a full 82 game season in his career.

murrke03
04-10-2013, 03:52 PM
Typical bash Lebron for something stupid thread.

I understand a fan disappointment but this is ridiculous.

asujbl
04-10-2013, 03:58 PM
Funny how the number of years you chose just happens to include the two seasons MJ missed most of.

The fact is that MJ played all 82 games in 9 of his 15 seasons in the NBA. He played in 81 and 80 in two other years.

Lebron has never played a full 82 game season in his career.

I didn't "choose" any years - I chose the number of years LeBron has played. Nice try though as if I was cherry picking years. I am well aware that Jordan missed games in multiple years of his first 10 years. It's irrelevant. We aren't comparing total games played for a career or average games played - that's not what the thread is about - it's about apparently LeBron is less of a "warrior" then Jordan which is just dumb. Through 10 years LeBron has 80 games more wear on his body. That's just fact. Regardless of the reason why Jordan missed games. It doesn't change that LeBron has played 80 more and therefore he wants a rest people need to get over it.

SacGWYNN19
04-10-2013, 04:16 PM
Lebron plans to rest a few of the Heats last 5 games.

I'm not eloquent when it comes to expressing my opinions but I'll do my best!

I'm not a Lebron fan but I do respect his game and ability. That being said I think this is ridiculous and something should be done by the league to prevent teams from resting players. I know they aren't the only ones that do it but the league fined the Spurs and I was ok with that.

When did it become the norm for players to not bring there ALL each and every night for the fan that gives there hard earned money? Shouldn't fans be able to see the best that there team has to offer or even the team your team is playing? It's no different than a team tanking for a better draft pick in my opinion.

People talk about how it's ok now because sports has reached a new era and it's the thing to do. Why? Why is it the thing to do? Are you weaker, can your body not hold up for 4 more games?

I live in Indy and when they rested there players in I think 09 I was pissed. Rest? You see where that got you!

Should this turn into a Jordan vs. Lebron thread? Probably not but this type of stuff didn't happen then and it shouldn't happen now.

Jordans games started during his championship runs.

90-91 82
91-92 80
92-93 78
95-96 82
96-97 82
97-98 82

Jordan still played all 82 games in numerous seasons even though they had clinched the playoffs and #1 seed long before the season ended. He still found the drive to compete night in to be the best and most importantly give the fans what they wanted to see. Not just Chicago fans but the league.

Hopefully someone agrees with me on this. It just drives me crazy

When you have money on the games it is easier to win if you are playing. Just sayin....

ensbergcollecto
04-10-2013, 04:20 PM
playoffs are what matter so normally i wouldn't care. However, heat tickets are priced because of the star power they bring to the court. Every team in the league (i believe) charged higher for tickets against the heat then against any other team. Thus, it isn't that fans payed for tickets as much as it is that fans paid more for tickets because of the star power than the heat bring. If he is going to sit, then fans paid extra for no reason.

asujbl
04-10-2013, 04:25 PM
When you have money on the games it is easier to win if you are playing. Just sayin....

Best response ever. Love it.

HOF_Collector
04-10-2013, 04:25 PM
When you have money on the games it is easier to win if you are playing. Just sayin....

I'm confused by this? I've never bet any money on any sports game! If that is what you are saying. If not then never mind, lol.

asujbl
04-10-2013, 04:29 PM
I'm confused by this? I've never bet any money on any sports game! If that is what you are saying. If not then never mind, lol.

He was talking about Jordan.

jbmets95
04-10-2013, 04:50 PM
I doubt he even has that much of a choice also...

and why not rest up for the championship

their main goal is to win a championshippp he will take criticsm either way

if they dont win the championship ppl will blame it on rest lol...

altho it is rough for fans and all it is the right thing to do when u play so many minutes

they earned the 1 seed so y not rest up for the games that matter...

xavieronly1
04-10-2013, 05:39 PM
I will not surprised to see if Lebron goes to play NFL, skips the whole NBA regular season, and still gets Heats to win on NBA final.

Cades
04-10-2013, 05:42 PM
Heat hafta make sure they are rested up to not get swept by the bucks :P

wilsunshines
04-10-2013, 05:48 PM
The fact is that MJ played all 82 games in 9 of his 15 seasons in the NBA, something Lebron has never once done in his first 10 years in the league.

asujbl
04-10-2013, 06:03 PM
The fact is that MJ played all 82 games in 9 of his 15 seasons in the NBA, something Lebron has never once done in his first 10 years in the league.

AC Green did it 14 times. Who cares? LeBron has averaged 77 games a year for his first 10 years. I think he has done fine.

BGSgradedRookie
04-10-2013, 06:06 PM
I don't mind if stars rest a few games before the Playoffs but if I had tickets to a game I would be upset so I guess it all depends on the situation with the fans. For me I live far away from my team but if I was a Season ticket holder or Just had some for an upcoming game and Durant and Westbrook didn't play I'd be highly upset.

murrke03
04-10-2013, 06:22 PM
The fact is that MJ played all 82 games in 9 of his 15 seasons in the NBA, something Lebron has never once done in his first 10 years in the league.

Who cares?

How many players don't play all 82 games? Duncan, Dirk, Kobe, keep the list going...

lb_sa
04-10-2013, 06:22 PM
I don't mind if stars rest a few games before the Playoffs but if I had tickets to a game I would be upset so I guess it all depends on the situation with the fans. For me I live far away from my team but if I was a Season ticket holder or Just had some for an upcoming game and Durant and Westbrook didn't play I'd be highly upset.

This exactly.

For some fans, they purchased these tickets well in advance to see LeBron. Maybe the only chance they will have their entire life, or definitely for the year.

Pop got fined for resting his OLD players for one regular season game against the Heat. I understand resting up for the playoffs if you were older maybe but I'm sure LeBron can handle it and probably doesn't need the extra rest.

If I had tickets, I wouldn't be that pleased about it.

xavieronly1
04-10-2013, 06:34 PM
This exactly.

For some fans, they purchased these tickets well in advance to see LeBron. Maybe the only chance they will have their entire life, or definitely for the year.

Pop got fined for resting his OLD players for one regular season game against the Heat. I understand resting up for the playoffs if you were older maybe but I'm sure LeBron can handle it and probably doesn't need the extra rest.

If I had tickets, I wouldn't be that pleased about it.

If NBA players actually put 'fan' over winning the title, then, you will see them playing, even for 30 minutes max. Now, NBA stars got too much pressure by naming himself as a crown for "best player without ring". Thing changes. Even for scoring title, NBA players don't fight for it anymore.

alexcampos
04-10-2013, 06:52 PM
When will people around here make good arguments?

THIS IS STUPID!!!!

Lebron SHOULD rest, it benefits the Heat, it increases their chances to have a better playoffs and it guards their best player from an unforeseen injury.

I don't give two craps if Jordan played all 82 games....good for him.

Why do you people keep making this asinine comparison?

WHO CARES?!

But the worst part about all of this is that there is evidence that shows that resting players is much better than letting them go all out near the end of the season.


I'm so F'ing tired of these stupid comparisons....Lebron isn't Jordan, he will NEVER be Jordan.

Give it a rest!

Cades
04-10-2013, 07:04 PM
When will people around here make good arguments?

THIS IS STUPID!!!!

Lebron SHOULD rest, it benefits the Heat, it increases their chances to have a better playoffs and it guards their best player from an unforeseen injury.

I don't give two craps if Jordan played all 82 games....good for him.

Why do you people keep making this asinine comparison?

WHO CARES?!

But the worst part about all of this is that there is evidence that shows that resting players is much better than letting them go all out near the end of the season.


I'm so F'ing tired of these stupid comparisons....Lebron isn't Jordan, he will NEVER be Jordan.

Give it a rest!


So you're saying jordan > lebron? :P

NJNets24
04-10-2013, 07:04 PM
I hope everyone who is against him resting has never, ever taken a day off from work in their life.

alexcampos
04-10-2013, 07:10 PM
So you're saying jordan > lebron? :P
Yes, I am.

End of story.

End of debate.

tristan20
04-10-2013, 08:01 PM
He earned it, end of story. What else does he have to play for? Stats?

HOF_Collector
04-10-2013, 09:18 PM
I hope everyone who is against him resting has never, ever taken a day off from work in their life.

If you are talking vacation days then yes. But I didn't realize athletes received vacation days. If you are talking about sick days then yes. But he's not sick, he's not hurt he is just tired. If he truly is resting a sore shoulder or a bum knee then he has every right to sit out. But he's tired. Have I ever called in sick because I was tired? That's a big fat negative.

Look I want to agree with you guys but when I hear athletes that have played, some as recent as the last few years come on ESPN and talk about how embarrassing it is to take a game off I tend to believe them because they have been there and unless I'm mistaken none of you play professional sports. You just love Lebron!

Tim Legler and Brian Dawkins were both on ESPN this morning and both completely disagreed with Lebron sitting these last few games. They're the ones that brought up the Jordan debate and it really got me thinking which is why I started this thread.

murrke03
04-10-2013, 09:40 PM
If you are talking vacation days then yes. But I didn't realize athletes received vacation days. If you are talking about sick days then yes. But he's not sick, he's not hurt he is just tired. If he truly is resting a sore shoulder or a bum knee then he has every right to sit out. But he's tired. Have I ever called in sick because I was tired? That's a big fat negative.

Look I want to agree with you guys but when I hear athletes that have played, some as recent as the last few years come on ESPN and talk about how embarrassing it is to take a game off I tend to believe them because they have been there and unless I'm mistaken none of you play professional sports. You just love Lebron!

Tim Legler and Brian Dawkins were both on ESPN this morning and both completely disagreed with Lebron sitting these last few games. They're the ones that brought up the Jordan debate and it really got me thinking which is why I started this thread.

LOL. Seems like Lebron is the only player that has ever sat out a game.

Oh and you have no idea if he is just 'tired'...

HOF_Collector
04-10-2013, 10:11 PM
LOL. Seems like Lebron is the only player that has ever sat out a game.

Oh and you have no idea if he is just 'tired'...

Well when it comes from his mouth then I tend to believe him!

That's right he said it not me.

Plus I said I didn't like the Spurs doing it either.

murrke03
04-10-2013, 10:18 PM
Well when it comes from his mouth then I tend to believe him!

That's right he said it not me.

Plus I said I didn't like the Spurs doing it either.

This isn't the same as the spurs.

Round Mound
04-11-2013, 03:33 AM
Either way, if LeBron was playing all the games, including those meaningless end of season games, some people would say it's just about increasing his cumulated stats. The same people here say that he shouldn't sit.

But do you have any idea of the wears and tears of 10 NBA seasons, + 3 Olympic tournaments, + the playoffs, + all the training camps?

How do you compare a player who has played 10 years non stop, with a player who had a year off following his rookie season, then another 2 years off after his 9th season? A player who has played, 10 years after he was drafted:

- 763 regular season games vs 667 season games?
- 115 playoffs games vs 101 playoffs games?
- 3 Olympics vs 2 Olympics?

Do you think there's a reason why we see more and more star players who play heavy minutes / high number of games, go down with serious knee/shoulder/elbow injuries?

sportscentury
04-11-2013, 06:45 AM
He can't do that because of UDA. I'am sure he would have loved to give to a fan.

The portion in bold is 100% factually false. I do my best to ignore the heaps of misinformation about game worn items that are dumped here, but if you think for a minute that Upper Deck has even a fraction of the power over LeBron and the Cavs necessary to prevent him/them from giving out one of his jerseys for fan appreciation night, you are sorely misguided.

TungTLe
04-11-2013, 07:52 AM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/6A1C5C69-5877-413F-ABC8-84B1FAEDA396-10836-000003C5365E988C_zpsbd2d7c75.jpg

xavieronly1
04-11-2013, 08:37 AM
If you are talking vacation days then yes. But I didn't realize athletes received vacation days. If you are talking about sick days then yes. But he's not sick, he's not hurt he is just tired. If he truly is resting a sore shoulder or a bum knee then he has every right to sit out. But he's tired. Have I ever called in sick because I was tired? That's a big fat negative.


What is the negative part for staying home while not being sick? You get that many vacation/sick/PTOs within a year. You don't use it, you lose it.

I know it is not you who brought up this comparsion. I don't even see the point of compare a regular job to professional sport contract. I can do any risky activities and they can't.

Kosmo Kards
04-11-2013, 08:44 AM
The Heat have the #1 overall seed cinched. Why would he play? What benefit is that to Miami?

groundsupport
04-11-2013, 08:49 AM
Kobe and Jordan had it. They put it on their backs to make it happen.

Lebron doesn't. He needed to to team up with two other allstars and move to a different city.

groundsupport
04-11-2013, 08:50 AM
The Heat have the #1 overall seed cinched. Why would he play? What benefit is that to Miami?

I guess let's just forget about the fans buying tickets right?

lb_sa
04-11-2013, 08:54 AM
I don't have a problem with the rest at all. The only problem I have is the fans not getting to watch the players they love to watch play. #@#@#@#@ happens I guess. If he truly needs the rest, then he needs to rest for the playoffs.

Kosmo Kards
04-11-2013, 09:14 AM
I guess let's just forget about the fans buying tickets right?

Fans aren't entitled anything. Is there a guarantee on the back of the ticket that says LeBron or Wade must play no matter what? You take that risk when you buy tickets, especially late in the season for the best team in the NBA. What about road games? When I buy tickets to games and a star player doesn't play, I don't feel ripped off, I'm just happy to see my team play. Real fans are just happy to see their team. I would understand this complaint if LeBron has been like this for his whole career, but this is the first season I can remember LeBron sitting a few games to rest people for the post season ever.

Why are people so desperate to constantly diss LeBron and Kobe?

wilsunshines
04-11-2013, 09:31 AM
Who cares?

How many players don't play all 82 games? Duncan, Dirk, Kobe, keep the list going...

All the players you listed have played full 82 game schedules multiple times in their career, something Lebron has never once done.

xavieronly1
04-11-2013, 09:39 AM
Fans aren't entitled anything. Is there a guarantee on the back of the ticket that says LeBron or Wade must play no matter what? You take that risk when you buy tickets, especially late in the season for the best team in the NBA. What about road games? When I buy tickets to games and a star player doesn't play, I don't feel ripped off, I'm just happy to see my team play. Real fans are just happy to see their team. I would understand this complaint if LeBron has been like this for his whole career, but this is the first season I can remember LeBron sitting a few games to rest people for the post season ever.

Why are people so desperate to constantly diss LeBron and Kobe?

This is not the first time Lebron sitting out game before playoff. He did it for at least last couple seasons (mostly sitting 1 game).

While there is no print on the ticket that Lebron will show up, but the price for that game does reflect it. At least around my area, if Heat is playing against my home team, it is nearly impossible to buy a discount price. If the road team is 76ers, I can get ticket for $5. Perhaps, when you have to spend more on the ticket, you just expect to have better team playing, not a bench team.

asujbl
04-11-2013, 09:48 AM
All the players you listed have played full 82 game schedules multiple times in their career, something Lebron has never once done.

Why is playing 82 so important to you. The fact that LeBron has averaged 77 games a year isn't enough for you? He has to play 82 or he isn't a true leader and competitor?

asujbl
04-11-2013, 09:52 AM
This is not the first time Lebron sitting out game before playoff. He did it for at least last couple seasons (mostly sitting 1 game).

While there is no print on the ticket that Lebron will show up, but the price for that game does reflect it. At least around my area, if Heat is playing against my home team, it is nearly impossible to buy a discount price. If the road team is 76ers, I can get ticket for $5. Perhaps, when you have to spend more on the ticket, you just expect to have better team playing, not a bench team.

Expectations are just that - expectations. Not requirements.

I pay double for an Ohio State vs. Michigan ticket then I do an Ohio State vs. Bum F whoever ticket.

What exactly does that entitle me to? A good game? Watching certain players? Just because Ohio State can charge that? Watching my team play?

I realize Football isn't apples to apples because it's more then 5 players - but I'm there to watch 2 teams play - I paid extra to see Michigan because that's what the price is - I can't assume they'll play players I want to see.

bigcwd2000
04-11-2013, 10:00 AM
If I were a fan I wouldn't buy a single ticket to any games in the month of April due to the fact that some superstar players might be sitting. This seems to be the norm now and I don't forsee it changing anytime soon.

groundsupport
04-11-2013, 10:03 AM
Fans aren't entitled anything. Is there a guarantee on the back of the ticket that says LeBron or Wade must play no matter what? You take that risk when you buy tickets, especially late in the season for the best team in the NBA. What about road games? When I buy tickets to games and a star player doesn't play, I don't feel ripped off, I'm just happy to see my team play. Real fans are just happy to see their team. I would understand this complaint if LeBron has been like this for his whole career, but this is the first season I can remember LeBron sitting a few games to rest people for the post season ever.

Why are people so desperate to constantly diss LeBron and Kobe?

So why did the Spurs get fined then?

xavieronly1
04-11-2013, 10:06 AM
Expectations are just that - expectations. Not requirements.

I pay double for an Ohio State vs. Michigan ticket then I do an Ohio State vs. Bum F whoever ticket.

What exactly does that entitle me to? A good game? Watching certain players? Just because Ohio State can charge that? Watching my team play?

I realize Football isn't apples to apples because it's more then 5 players - but I'm there to watch 2 teams play - I paid extra to see Michigan because that's what the price is - I can't assume they'll play players I want to see.

There are 2 debates. One is why Lebron needs to sit out. The other one is why fans are upset because of Lebron sitting out.

I'm fine for Lebron to sit out. And I'm fine for fans to be upset because Big 3 are not playing.

And besides, these Big 3 plays for 50% of 240 minutes. If they don't show up, you get 50% less. I guess it would match the same percentage if your favourite is QB and he is sitting out like Peyton Manning did.

xavieronly1
04-11-2013, 10:07 AM
If I were a fan I wouldn't be buy a single ticket to any games in the month of April due to the fact that some superstar players might be sitting. This seems to be the norm now and I don't forsee it changing anytime soon.

That's what I'm going to do as well. Of course, unless they would lower the price right on the game day to reflect the bench team showing up.

asujbl
04-11-2013, 10:28 AM
So why did the Spurs get fined then?

Because they didn't follow protocol. That's why.

The Spurs didn't notify the NBA - they could have made up any excuse they wanted and made up some BS injury or sickness- but they still have to tell the NBA.

Fans weren't entitled to see the players. Stern flexed his muscle because the Spurs didn't cross their T's and dot their I's. Failing to file the paperwork was just his loophole to levy the fine and make it seem like he cared about the fans. It was straight PR.

murrke03
04-11-2013, 10:30 AM
Because they didn't follow protocol. That's why.

The Spurs didn't notify the NBA - they could have made up any excuse they wanted and made up some BS injury or sickness- but they still have to tell the NBA.

Fans weren't entitled to see the players. Stern flexed his muscle because the Spurs didn't cross their T's and dot their I's. Failing to file the paperwork was just his loophole to levy the fine and make it seem like he cared about the fans. It was straight PR.

exactly. people think this is the same situation but this is entirely false.

tristan20
04-11-2013, 10:31 AM
If I were a fan I wouldn't buy a single ticket to any games in the month of April due to the fact that some superstar players might be sitting. This seems to be the norm now and I don't forsee it changing anytime soon.

Exactly, everyone knows that. You want to see all stars, go to the All star game.

No player is a machine. The only ones playing are the ones stuffing stats or fighting for placing in the playoffs. Do you honestly think they would be playing to please the fans, especially at such a critical time?

murrke03
04-11-2013, 10:34 AM
honestly fans needs to understand that this happens at the end of the season.

it stinks yes but it happens.

NJNets24
04-11-2013, 10:49 AM
Is there ever this discussion in the NFL when stars don't dress for week 17? No, there isn't and there shouldn't be one in the NBA either.

Kosmo Kards
04-11-2013, 10:53 AM
So why did the Spurs get fined then?

Because David Stern is an idiot.

Cades
04-11-2013, 11:04 AM
Expectations are just that - expectations. Not requirements.

I pay double for an Ohio State vs. Michigan ticket then I do an Ohio State vs. Bum F whoever ticket.

What exactly does that entitle me to? A good game? Watching certain players? Just because Ohio State can charge that? Watching my team play?

I realize Football isn't apples to apples because it's more then 5 players - but I'm there to watch 2 teams play - I paid extra to see Michigan because that's what the price is - I can't assume they'll play players I want to see.

But would you pay extra if either team was starting second string players?

The tickets are that high BECAUSE of lebron/wade(insert superstar) are expected to be playing

that should be the only ones having a gripe about anyone resting, are those paying inflated ticket prices, otherwise rest all you want

but to think he nor wade/bosh has an injury, is laughable at best

asujbl
04-11-2013, 11:06 AM
But would you pay extra if either team was starting second string players?

Absolutely - because it wouldn't matter to me as long as the game still counted in the standings. It's still a game on the schedule that I'd want to go to because I'd want to see my team play live. It's not an exhibition. It counts. Regardless of what players are playing in it.

asujbl
04-11-2013, 11:08 AM
But would you pay extra if either team was starting second string players?

The tickets are that high BECAUSE of lebron/wade(insert superstar) are expected to be playing

And it's a risk all fans take when buying tickets in the last quarter of the season. In any sport.

Heat fans got to see a win last night. That would be good enough for me if I was a fan of that team. Wizard fans saw a loss. They should be more concerned about that.

Cades
04-11-2013, 11:10 AM
So you would pay the same prices to go to a minor league, d league, khl, arena/canadian football as the pros?

I guess you sir are better than I

asujbl
04-11-2013, 11:11 AM
So you would pay the same prices to go to a minor league, d league, khl, arena/canadian football as the pros?

I guess you sir are better than I

Well that was certainly a random respose which has nothing to do with anything I've posted.

Cades
04-11-2013, 11:12 AM
Well they are part of your team, no? (not football obviously)

asujbl
04-11-2013, 11:14 AM
Well they are part of your team, no? (not football obviously)

No they aren't. The Cavs D-League team is it's own team. They aren't the Cleveland Cavs. I'm not a fan of the D-League team. They aren't one in the same. It's an entirely different league.

If the Cavs decided to sign 5 players from the D-League to the active roster and they were playing for the Cavs then I'd have no problem paying to see them. They are on my team. I'm paying to watch the Cavs play.

When they are in some other league entirely that has nothing to do with anything.