Celtics off season thread...

[bdoody42]

Hey everyone. The question is simple...okay maybe not... What should the Celtics do this offseason? This one of the teams with the most question marks going into next season. Do they keep the core together? Do they blow it up? Wo should they draft?

[SHowley2003]

IMO they have to go in one of two extremes. Either blow it ALL up, which includes trading Rondo and Green, or keep Pierce with the possibility of dealing him at the deadline. I think there is a lot of benefit in this league of having an expiring contract, and with the retirement rules the way they are (in terms of salary cap impact) buying out Pierce and letting KG walk doesn't free up much money. If they get rid of those two they are still better than Milwaukee with Rondo, Green, Sullinger, Bradley, etc. so they are too good to rebuild quickly. If they let Pierce mature off the books naturally they don't have to take on any contracts in a return trade and they have a product they can sell for next year. I think the people that want to trade Pierce to rebuild forget the money has to match, which means you either take on a bad contract to get a late first roung pick, or you pick up a ghost contract that still impacts your salary cap ala Keith Van Horn at the end of his career. The same goes for trading Rondo and Green. They both make 10+ million next year, so it is either a sign and trade for a max player or you take on bad contracts to get draft picks/ young players with potential.

I personally would like to see Pierce stick it out, but it is not his option at this point, and I do think having him around hurts Jeff Green's development if they believe he is capable of taking the next step.

[Gbulldogs1010]

My personal opinion is to either trade pierce and kg together to a contender but only if you get good young players in return. Otherwise I would stay put and waive Jason terry and maybe dish some bench players. I think they can hold kg and pierce another season and still compete as long as they strengthen their bench offensively and no star players get hurt. I think they could have beaten the Knicks if they had rondo in the post season. Pierce wouldn't be over worked and wouldn't bring up the ball and could do all of his good things. Turnovers would be cut down and Bradley could go to shooting guard and their bench would be rock solid with green as the sixth man! That's my opinion. Stay put unless something great comes, dish the old bench guys (Jason terry) and get younger on the bench and hope that their rookie steps up, and sully comes back strong (along with rondo) and maybe fab Melo can develop into a good big man(could learn from kg)

[TheCelticsfan29]

I really don't want to see them lose green, bradley, or Sullinger, even though those are the only guys with much value other than rondo. I wouldn't mind if pierce didn't come back, but I would much rather him retire than go to another team. On the other hand, I would like to see garnett return for another year just to be a leader for some of the younger guys.

[bdoody42]

I really don't want to see them lose green, bradley, or Sullinger, even though those are the only guys with much value other than rondo. I wouldn't mind if pierce didn't come back, but I would much rather him retire than go to another team. On the other hand, I would like to see garnett return for another year just to be a leader for some of the younger guys.


Would be nice for the Feltics to keep the young talent they have. I really would love to see Pierce retire a Celtic...what drat picks do they have this year? Can they even get any solid role players?

[ray34allen21]

I would like to see them get Josh Smith.

[bdoody42]

I would like to see them get Josh Smith.

I would pass on Smith. He wants a max contract I have heard. He is not worth that much. I think on a championship caliber team he can be no better than a third option. He still falls in love with shooting threes and long twos. He is a good defender but not worth a max.

[bdoody42]

Any other ideas?

[ray34allen21]

I honestly have no idea. We need a center badly. It would be cool to get Kevin Love.

[bdoody42]

I honestly have no idea. We need a center badly. It would be cool to get Kevin Love.

Any ideas how that could happen?

[pac213up]

A couple updates from Jackie M.

Jackie Mac on CSNNE: "I'm hearing that Kevin Garnett is coming back for one more year... they're all waiting on KG"
3:51 PM - 30 May 2013

More Jackie Mac: "Everyone knows that they covet Paul Millsap" When asked what she thinks "Plan A" is, she said getting Millsap
3:54 PM - 30 May 2013

[pac213up]

Hey everyone. The question is simple...okay maybe not... What should the Celtics do this offseason? This one of the teams with the most question marks going into next season. Do they keep the core together? Do they blow it up? Wo should they draft?

Blowing it up rarely makes sense to me. I think they reshuffle some pieces and try and keep the core together for one more year. Frontline depth is a must.

[indyguy]

One pick in the draft, which would be around the 16th or 17th pick, I believe.

Here is a list of the salaries (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/boston.htm)

Not a Celtics fan, but they seem to be at the point of drafting the best big man available unless they move Pierce and/or Green/Terry, then a scoring wing is a must and they would most likely acquire a big man in free agency.

[IamRalpho]

Paul Milsap? A target? I dont believe it. Danny knows he likes to rebound right? He usually stays away from those types

[pac213up]

Paul Milsap? A target? I dont believe it. Danny knows he likes to rebound right? He usually stays away from those types

He is a perfect fit for what the Celtics do.

[IamRalpho]

He is a perfect fit for what the Celtics do.

No kidding, I was being sarcastic.

[pac213up]

No kidding, I was being sarcastic.

I understand that.

[the34truth]

Milsap or Al Jefferson, too good to be true for what Angie did past few years.

[got_Sheed?]

get sheed out of retirement :D

[IamRalpho]

I can see Bradley being traded in a sign and trade for even Jefferson or Milsap. Makes too much sense to ,e

[pac213up]

Issue for the Celtics is that they cannot do S&T's unless they buy out Pierce.

[IamRalpho]

Issue for the Celtics is that they cannot do S&T's unless they buy out Pierce.

Or get someone to take Lee/Terry/Bass.

[cookiechrisps]

blow it up and trade pierce and kg to the lakers haha. jk. but at least they would have a crack at the heat

[ray34allen21]

Any ideas how that could happen?

No clue :confused:. But the Celtics just need a stronger front court. And a good SG also.

[lb_sa]

I like Boston and Indiana so Rondo to the Pacers if anywhere please! Granger and George Hill and then Pacers need a shooter at the 2.

[IamRalpho]

I like Boston and Indiana so Rondo to the Pacers if anywhere please! Granger and George Hill and then Pacers need a shooter at the 2.

So the Pacers get Rondo and the Celtucs get what? Sam Young?

[bdoody42]

Blowing it up rarely makes sense to me. I think they reshuffle some pieces and try and keep the core together for one more year. Frontline depth is a must.

A true center would be amazing. Any chance Fab Melo can develop into a rotation player you think?

[bdoody42]

I like Boston and Indiana so Rondo to the Pacers if anywhere please! Granger and George Hill and then Pacers need a shooter at the 2.

Don't see it benefiting the celtics really. I wouldn't trade Rondo unless they get a star or very promising young players in return.

[jprk31]

I say the Celtics give it one more try with this group. I would let Paul Pierce be the 6th man of the team. My starters would be
PG - Rondo SG - Bradley SF Green PF Garnett C ?? ( explore a trade maybe involving Crawford/Bass or Lee

A bench consisting of Pierce, Terry and Sullinger would be good. The C's need to get a back up pg via trade or draft. I think the key would be convincing Pierce to come of the bench and getting some decent center to help out KG.

[bdoody42]

As of now. I would start the following.not saying it is great but is best option I think.
PG-Rondo.
SG- Bradley
SF- Pierce
PF- Green
C- Garnett.

The lineup is small but can spread the floor pretty well. I would love for them to get a real center!!!

[jprk31]

As of now. I would start the following.not saying it is great but is best option I think.
PG-Rondo.
SG- Bradley
SF- Pierce
PF- Green
C- Garnett.

The lineup is small but can spread the floor pretty well. I would love for them to get a real center!!!

I agree with that line up but I'm concern about KG playing center. IMO they should stop playing small ball and play more traditional basketball with a real center. They should follow the Spurs. Their headed to the Nba finals and have Tim Duncan, Parker and Ginobilli as their main core surrounded with ( Green, Leonard and Splitter).

[bdoody42]

I agree with that line up but I'm concern about KG playing center. IMO they should stop playing small ball and play more traditional basketball with a real center. They should follow the Spurs. Their headed to the Nba finals and have Tim Duncan, Parker and Ginobilli as their main core surrounded with ( Green, Leonard and Splitter).

If they can get a legit center I would agree about changing the lineup. Just have to find someone who is more than just large.

[bdoody42]

Al Jefferson returning....is it possible?

[IamRalpho]

Al Jefferson returning....is it possible?

Um, sure. Likely? no. Ideally they need to dump Pierce. If they keep Pierce, they can hope Utah likes Jason Terry, Brandon Bass or Courtney Lee, actually 2 of them, Bradley and picks.

Possible Big Al takes less to get back, but I doubt it.

[The Fluffy]

The Celtics should draft that german pg in the draft till rondo comes back if they can and sign Vucevic in the off season since he's a pretty solid center and he can help the Celtics in rebounding and scoring.

[bdoody42]

The Celtics should draft that german pg in the draft till rondo comes back if they can and sign Vucevic in the off season since he's a pretty solid center and he can help the Celtics in rebounding and scoring.

Is Vucevic a free agent?

[The Fluffy]

Yes I believe he is.

[bdoody42]

Yes I believe he is.

He would be great. I wonder what his Market value would be.

[The Fluffy]

Not sure what his market value is, have to look it up.

[IamRalpho]

Nikola Vuceveic isnt a free agent until after 2016, where do you get your information?

[The Fluffy]

I forgot where I got that info but I read that he was a free agent somewhere but I guess they were wrong. Sorry.

[bdoody42]

Nikola Vuceveic isnt a free agent until after 2016, where do you get your information?

There goes that option... Just isn't many reasonable choics out there.

[bdoody42]

149315A true center would be amazing. Any chance Fab Melo can develop into a rotation player you think?

Wonder if this worked.

[pac213up]

A true center would be amazing. Any chance Fab Melo can develop into a rotation player you think?

Feb Melo does not impress me at all. Never understood the pick to begin with and hope I am wrong.

[pac213up]

Interesting Ray Allen rumors out there.

[IamRalpho]

Interesting Ray Allen rumors out there.

And they are? That hes been pulling a weekend at bernies for 2 years now and someone finally found out?

[pac213up]

And they are? That hes been pulling a weekend at bernies for 2 years now and someone finally found out?

Regrets leaving Boston. Friends close to him (sources) believe he may opt out and look to return for one final year so he can retire as a Celtic.

[lb_sa]

So the Pacers get Rondo and the Celtucs get what? Sam Young?

I meant Granger and Hill for Rondo, and a pick.

I doubt it'll happen but if Boston moves Rajon that isn't a bad deal for them.

[pac213up]

I meant Granger and Hill for Rondo, and a pick.

I doubt it'll happen but if Boston moves Rajon that isn't a bad deal for them.

Do not see that happening with Jeff Green here.

[IamRalpho]

Celtics need to get younger, not older with Allen. He looks done for.

He never should have left. I dont think he ever fit in Miami with those egos/team.

His fault though, he might get a ring out of it.

[pac213up]

Celtics need to get younger, not older with Allen. He looks done for.

He never should have left. I dont think he ever fit in Miami with those egos/team.

His fault though, he might get a ring out of it.

If younger means keeping Jordan Crawford, then I would rather have Diva Allen. I do not think it is going to happen though.

[IamRalpho]

If younger means keeping Jordan Crawford, then I would rather have Diva Allen. I do not think it is going to happen though.

Jordan Crawford is exactly what you need off the bench. Instant offense. ANd hes young and cheap.

Ray Allen has looked cooked for two years now. Only gonna get worse.

[pac213up]

Jordan Crawford is exactly what you need off the bench. Instant offense. ANd hes young and cheap.

Ray Allen has looked cooked for two years now. Only gonna get worse.

Young and cheap...yes. Instant offense....not really. All set with guys that average 1 pt per shot and cannot defend.

[bdoody42]

I like Crawford as a 9th man, but not much more...he Han be a checker and needs to learn to defend in the perimeter.

[bdoody42]

Any new ideas?

[pac213up]

Surprised to hear this.

DEVELOPING: Doc Rivers believes it "may be time for a change" in his status as Celtics coach, source told @Chris_Broussard.

[IamRalpho]

Doc Rivers is really disappointing me if this is true. He is being a giant hypocrite. Why the f*ck did he sign the contract when he knew full well what was coming.

I hope he comes back, but I am severely disappointed in how this is going.

If he goes, KG retires, Pierce is gone and the rebuild happens no matter what.

I can only imagine how pissed Danny is too. Good coaches are out there and Doc's pussyfooting around wasting time if thats whats gonna happen.

[bdoody42]

I hope Doc stays but if he does decide to leave I hope he informs the team ASAP while their are still good candidates.

[pac213up]

If he leaves it is because the team is in semi rebuild. Not sure the quality of replacement coach will matter. Still think he returns but having more doubts.

[bdoody42]

If he leaves it is because the team is in semi rebuild. Not sure the quality of replacement coach will matter. Still think he returns but having more doubts.

I think he will as well.... And I hope.

[bdoody42]

Looks like KG and Garnett could be gone....I'm not sure i like this. I definitely don't want Doc gone!!!

[Gbulldogs1010]

Looks like KG and Garnett could be gone....I'm not sure i like this. I definitely don't want Doc gone!!!

Yeah I know. I am definitely sad.

Ps
Too bad were not just losing Garnett and kg(same person) we are losing doc too:mad:

[bdoody42]

Yeah I know. I am definitely sad.

Ps
Too bad were not just losing Garnett and kg(same person) we are losing doc too:mad:

I can understand trading KG if we get something good back. Losing Doc would suck.

[pac213up]

No way Doc comes back at this point.

[pac213up]

Also would not be shocked if the Rondo camp used this as leverage to get an extension and maximize $$$.

[jprk31]

I think they should trade KG and Doc plus maybe Terry or Lee and get Deandre Jordan and Bledsoe plus the 2 first round pick. They should keep Paul Pierce for the remainder of his contract (his been the face of the franchise for almost a decade now). Try to flip maybe Bledsoe or Rondo for another star and call it a day. They can probably trade Bledsoe for Millsap. At this point who knows what Danny Ainge is thinking.

[pac213up]

Sounds like they are positioning themselves for Josh Smith with this Clippers deal.

[bdoody42]

Sounds like they are positioning themselves for Josh Smith with this Clippers deal.

He wants a max contract and he isn't worth that. He can't be a top player on a championship caliber team.

[IamRalpho]

Rondo is going to go absolutely nuts next year. Huge chip on his shoulder, and I bet Ainge locks him up.

This is now Rondo's team, him and Ainge will ride or die together.

And yes I think its going to be a Josh Smith move, him and Rondo are super BFF's.

[RedSoxFan28]

"Griffin’s inclusion in the package is the only way an exchange can work for the Celtics. He, Bledsoe and Butler would be fair value for Pierce, Garnett and Rivers. Particularly if the Celtics were to take Bledsoe, Celtics forward Brandon Bass and possibly another player and send them to the Atlanta Hawks in a sign and trade for forward Josh Smith."
I wouldn't mind this idea that Boston Celtics Rumors: All Of The Sudden, Steven A. Smith Doesn?t Sound So Crazy (http://www.ibtimes.com/sportsnet/boston-celtics-rumors-all-sudden-steven-smith-doesnt-sound-so-crazy-1308709) suggests. Starting lineup of
C- Jordan
PF: Griffin, Sullinger
SF: Smith, Green
SG: Bradley
PG Rondo

[IamRalpho]

Blake Griffin is not going to be in the deal.

[RedSoxFan28]

Blake Griffin is not going to be in the deal.

Didn't think he would be included, but I wouldn't mind if he was :p

[bdoody42]

"Griffin’s inclusion in the package is the only way an exchange can work for the Celtics. He, Bledsoe and Butler would be fair value for Pierce, Garnett and Rivers. Particularly if the Celtics were to take Bledsoe, Celtics forward Brandon Bass and possibly another player and send them to the Atlanta Hawks in a sign and trade for forward Josh Smith."
I wouldn't mind this idea that Boston Celtics Rumors: All Of The Sudden, Steven A. Smith Doesn?t Sound So Crazy (http://www.ibtimes.com/sportsnet/boston-celtics-rumors-all-sudden-steven-smith-doesnt-sound-so-crazy-1308709) suggests. Starting lineup of
C- Jordan
PF: Griffin, Sullinger
SF: Smith, Green
SG: Bradley
PG Rondo


No one on this team can shoot from the perimeter consistently. It would also be a pretty and free shooting team. There are some good players but the puzzle doesn't fit for me. Rondo needs people around him who can hit shots.

[RedSoxFan28]

No one on this team can shoot from the perimeter consistently. It would also be a pretty and free shooting team. There are some good players but the puzzle doesn't fit for me. Rondo needs people around him who can hit shots.

Yeah outside and FT would be poor, but who did the Celtics have this(12-13) year as a consistent outside shooter?

[Cades]

Do not want Deandre Jordan.

[IamRalpho]

I am already sick of this. DeAndre Jordan sucks,and the new rumor is the Clippers wont take any money back.

F THAT. Just let Doc sit out 3 years if he doesnt wanna come back. Why take a terrible contract and a terrible pick?

I hate this and just want it to end

[bdoody42]

Yeah outside and FT would be poor, but who did the Celtics have this(12-13) year as a consistent outside shooter?

Pierce, Lee, Terry and Green all shot 37% of higher from 3. Garnett was also a solid mid range shooter. If these guys leave the paint will be clogged for Rondo. Smith, Jordan, and Griffin are pretty poor outside shooters.

[RedSoxFan28]

I am already sick of this. DeAndre Jordan sucks,and the new rumor is the Clippers wont take any money back.

F THAT. Just let Doc sit out 3 years if he doesnt wanna come back. Why take a terrible contract and a terrible pick?

I hate this and just want it to end

Yeah, seems like Bledsoe won'y be in the trade either.

Current scenerio
Celtics Get: Jordan, Butler, and 1st Round Pick
Clippers get: Doc, KG, and Lee or Terry(if the Clippers won't take either of the two the Celtics want another 1st round pick)

[IamRalpho]

Clippers are the best, enjoy TNT Doc.

[pac213up]

Dead deal. How the rest of this plays out will be interesting for sure!

[jprk31]

The Clippers back out of the deal. I wonder how this affect CP3 resigning with the Clips and whether Doc comes back to coach the Celtics.

[pac213up]

The Clippers back out of the deal. I wonder how this affect CP3 resigning with the Clips and whether Doc comes back to coach the Celtics.

Cannot see Doc coming back but that will be his call. The CP3 situation in LA will probably depend on their ability to add D12 at this point.

[pac213up]

Adrian Wojnarowski ✔ @WojYahooNBA

Danny Ainge has called Doc Rivers to tell him that talks are done, sources tell Y! Sports. Ainge told him he still wants him as coach.

[IamRalpho]

Here we go again!

[jprk31]

Here we go again!

They should just let Doc go. Their saying CP3 wants Doc so hopefully Danny has more leverage now compared to yesterday.

[pac213up]

Sounds like terms of the deal are changing a bit which delayed it from getting done tonight. Maybe Bledsoe is back in the mix or maybe they will take some contracts now. Ainge needs to use the leverage CP3 provided.

[pac213up]

What a mess. Not sure how this can happen now.

Mark Heisler
Mark Heisler @MarkHeisler about 1 hour ago

#Celtics, #Clippers in lockdown--but NBA has problem w/twin transactions. Team official: 'NBA guys say they don't see how this can happen'

[IamRalpho]

Just make this stop! Make it stop!

[grosen3]

Good. I don't see any reason why Boston should do this unless they would be getting a player with some kind of potential, and the Clippers won't give up Bledsoe.

[pac213up]

When asked in the radio interview about the possibility that the deal could be broken up into two separate transactions, Stern laughed.

"If you think those would now -- at this point, having been all over the media for week for the last week or so -- are separate transactions...I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I would very much enjoy selling to you," Stern said.

"What the rules won’t allow, it can’t be gotten around by breaking it up into two transactions."

[bdoody42]

Now that Doc is gone, who do the celtics hire?

[pac213up]

Now that Doc is gone, who do the celtics hire?

Shaw or Frank's maybe.

[pac213up]

Next for Ainge...get assets for Pierce and KG while ensuring neither ends up with the Clippers. The worse they are the better that pick becomes.

[IamRalpho]

Next move is getting a decision out of KG or deciding what they wanna do with him.

I bet they pick up Pierces option regardless.

Then the draft

[jprk31]

Next move is getting a decision out of KG or deciding what they wanna do with him.

I bet they pick up Pierces option regardless.

Then the draft

I agree with you that the Celtics will probably pick up PP option. Now as far as KG is concerned, the question is if he can't be dealt to the Clippers will he waive his no trade clause? That's the next drama the C's had to tackle this week hopefully before the draft.

[bdoody42]

Hollins or Shaw would be good candidates I think. Hollins might not play an up tempo offense that the celtics may want though.

Shaw or Frank's maybe.

[IamRalpho]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BM1T5wvCMAAA0O9.jpg

[bdoody42]

Its kinda dissapointing that Rivers would jump ship when the team all of sudden might be rebuilding. I'll stick with the Celtics forever!!!

[pac213up]

Its kinda dissapointing that Rivers would jump ship when the team all of sudden might be rebuilding. I'll stick with the Celtics forever!!!

Sounds like he wanted a bit more say in player decisions. Was not going to get that with Ainge. I don't blame him for leaving but not sure that situation in LA is all it seems to be, especially with them not able to get KG now.

[bdoody42]

It looks like Cp3 will return and they will more then likely have a better squad then the celtics will next year. It will be interesting to see what Ainge does with KG and Pierce.

Sounds like he wanted a bit more say in player decisions. Was not going to get that with Ainge. I don't blame him for leaving but not sure that situation in LA is all it seems to be, especially with them not able to get KG now.

[pac213up]

It looks like Cp3 will return and they will more then likely have a better squad then the celtics will next year. It will be interesting to see what Ainge does with KG and Pierce.

Better squad definitely. Championship caliber probably not. I think he will be exposed a bit without his defensive anchor but we will see.

[pac213up]

Adrian Wojnarowski
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1 minute ago

Y! Sources: Boston will consider younger, lower profile candidates for head coach, including assistant Jay Larranaga. yhoo.it/14Vq95K

[jprk31]

Adrian Wojnarowski
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1 minute ago

Y! Sources: Boston will consider younger, lower profile candidates for head coach, including assistant Jay Larranaga. yhoo.it/14Vq95K

No need to pay a high caliber coach if the team is rebuilding. Save some money this year...tank the season and hope for #1 pick for 2014 draft.

[RedSoxFan28]

No need to pay a high caliber coach if the team is rebuilding. Save some money this year...tank the season and hope for #1 pick for 2014 draft.

Wiggins! :flex: :)!

[pac213up]

No need to pay a high caliber coach if the team is rebuilding. Save some money this year...tank the season and hope for #1 pick for 2014 draft.

Celtics will not be tanking for the #1 pick. They may take a step back and end in the lottery but they would have to gut the roster too deep to have a legit shot at Wiggins. Also ownership would not sign off on giving up 4000+ season ticket holders for the next 3-4 years. Too much risk.

[pac213up]

No real surprise here.

WEEI ‏@WEEI 9m

Report: Celtics target Josh Smith pending Paul Pierce trade Green Street » Report: Celtics target Josh Smith pending Paul Pierce trade (http://dlvr.it/3Z6XTn)

[IamRalpho]

Rondo, Smith, Bradley, Green, Sullinger.

Maybe 40 wins, 309049404 headaches bout a BAZZILIION fun plays.

Do it Danny

[pac213up]

Rondo, Smith, Bradley, Green, Sullinger.

Maybe 40 wins, 309049404 headaches bout a BAZZILIION fun plays.

Do it Danny

With assets from a KG trade and more moves to be made. Interesting off season to say the least and it has not even really begun!

[IamRalpho]

Only thing that does not make me renew my season tickets is if they deal Rondo. I really wanna watch the RRR (Revenge Rajon Rondo) season in person, even if they are a .500 team

[pac213up]

Only thing that does not make me renew my season tickets is if they deal Rondo. I really wanna watch the RRR (Revenge Rajon Rondo) season in person, even if they are a .500 team

My season tickets are already paid for next season so I am hoping (and think they will) they will put out a young, high energy team, that is easy to root for.

[SethMurphy]

Honestly, what kind of return is Boston looking to get out of KG and Pierce? I'm going to miss Paul immensely but I understand its time. I wish Kris Joseph stuck around, think he would be a good fit for the team, but just wondering what we are really looking to get for those two

[hotbox]

Nets have reached out to Celtics regarding Kevin Garnett. What would we give up for KG? It would probably have to have Humphries due to the contract situation, Brooks, and some picks?

[pac213up]

Honestly, what kind of return is Boston looking to get out of KG and Pierce? I'm going to miss Paul immensely but I understand its time. I wish Kris Joseph stuck around, think he would be a good fit for the team, but just wondering what we are really looking to get for those two

Draft picks, expiring contracts or TPE's are the priority. Young players with potential like Jordan or Bledsoe also fit the bill. Basically assets they can flip now or in a year or two for the next All-Star quality player.

[dlab85]

Nets have reached out to Celtics regarding Kevin Garnett. What would we give up for KG? It would probably have to have Humphries due to the contract situation, Brooks, and some picks?

God I wish they never traded Brooks... Maybe it's because I'm a PC fan, but that would have been nice to have some scoring punch off the bench a couple years ago. Either way, he would have worked out better than JaJuan Johnson.

I think Danny is going to explore all avenues. He wants 1st round picks, but who knows what will end up happening. It sounds like the NBA isn't going to let KG end up in LA, so I wouldn't write any option off. I also feel like there is more urgency to trade him vs trading Pierce. I think KG is less likely to come back, play half the season and then get traded at the deadline, like they will do with Pierce. KG may just retire.

[IamRalpho]

The Nets have absolutely nothing I would want for KG. Marshon Brooks is borderline bust now and would be a throw in to a deal, not something you lead with.

Even if the Celts keep both, they have more value at the deadline when teams overpay more for veterans/expiring deals.

I really have no idea which way they go, but I would like to get some prospects and not a lot of picks, Ainge hasnt had the best track record with picks.

[bdoody42]

They need to figure out who is going to coach this team. That way we know what type of players the coach can use best.

[IamRalpho]

Ainge said they wont hire a coach right away, dont expect a quick resolution for the coach anytime soon.

[bdoody42]

I heard that also but why? What benefit do the a celtics get in waiting? Seems like a bad move to me.

Ainge said they wont hire a coach right away, dont expect a quick resolution for the coach anytime soon.

[IamRalpho]

I dont think they're waiting, just a lot of other stuff to do. Ainge said he thought Doc was back on Sunday, so obviously their focus was on the draft and their guys.

[pac213up]

Boston and Brooklyn discussing a blockbuster deal that would send Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce to Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[bdoody42]

To a division rival? What will they get in return?

Boston and Brooklyn discussing a blockbuster deal that would send Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce to Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[bdoody42]

Who should the Celtics take with the 16th pick? Best available?

[ray34allen21]

To a division rival? What will they get in return?

Thats what Im wondering?:eek:
Lopez maybe?
Or Gerald Wallace and some others?

[pac213up]

To a division rival? What will they get in return?

Adrian Wojnarowski ✔ @WojYahooNBA

Possible Nets package includes expiring deal of Kris Humphries, Gerald Wallace, Tomike Shenglia and three first-round picks, sources tell Y!

[bdoody42]

Hmmmm.....how long are the contracts of Wallace and Humpheries? I think Wallace has maybe three years and Humphries 1?

Adrian Wojnarowski ✔ @WojYahooNBA

Possible Nets package includes expiring deal of Kris Humphries, Gerald Wallace, Tomike Shenglia and three first-round picks, sources tell Y!

[IamRalpho]

That Wallace deal is terrible, this potential deal is terrible. I would be sick if this happened

[pac213up]

Hmmmm.....how long are the contracts of Wallace and Humpheries? I think Wallace has maybe three years and Humphries 1?

Humpheries is expiring. Wallace is 10M for 3 more years. Not a fan of that contract unless Ainge is sending Terry out as well.

[Sikkcaden]

That Wallace deal is terrible, this potential deal is terrible. I would be sick if this happened

I really like it for both sides. They shed KG, Pierce contracts, Humphries expiring deal, 3 first round picks and Rondo, Wallace and Green is a competitive core.

[pac213up]

I really like it for both sides. They shed KG, Pierce contracts, Humphries expiring deal, 3 first round picks and Rondo, Wallace and Green is a competitive core.

Sounds like Brooks would be part of the deal as well and then spun off for another 1st. So ultimate 4 #1 picks for the Celtics and they may be able to move the Lee/Terry contracts to the Nets.

[Sikkcaden]

Sounds like Brooks would be part of the deal as well and then spun off for another 1st. So ultimate 4 #1 picks for the Celtics and they may be able to move the Lee/Terry contracts to the Nets.

That'd be huge, although if the Nets could somehow field a line up of

Deron Williams
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Brook Lopez

I would have to think theyre the favorites lol

[bdoody42]

They would be good. Every guy can score.

That'd be huge, although if the Nets could somehow field a line up of

Deron Williams
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Brook Lopez

I would have to think theyre the favorites lol

[IamRalpho]

I really dont want KG or Pierce in the division, but if we can shed salary and get picks I guess it would be acceptable.

Brooks doesnt nothing for me, nothing at all.

[pac213up]

That'd be huge, although if the Nets could somehow field a line up of

Deron Williams
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Brook Lopez

I would have to think theyre the favorites lol

Yeah but realistically I do not see the deal happening, at least not how it is constructed right now. There may be other teams involved that help get it done though.

[bdoody42]

If we shed Terry/Lee I'm okay with the deal. I wish it was to a western conference team.

I really dont want KG or Pierce in the division, but if we can shed salary and get picks I guess it would be acceptable.

Brooks doesnt nothing for me, nothing at all.

[pac213up]

If we shed Terry/Lee I'm okay with the deal. I wish it was to a western conference team.

Like I predicted.

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1 minute ago

The Boston-Brooklyn discussions for Garnett and Pierce are serious, several team sources tell Y! "Deal could get even bigger," source says.

Adrian Wojnarowski ✔ @WojYahooNBA

The Celtics are discussing the possibility of including either guard Jason Terry or Courtney Lee in the package, sources tell Y! Sports.
2:47 PM - 27 Jun 2013

[knicks_please]

wallace is trash...that would be my only hang up as a celtics fan. i'd make em at least give up marshon.

[pac213up]

wallace is trash...that would be my only hang up as a celtics fan. i'd make em at least give up marshon.

If they can get rid of the Terry contract it helps balance it off. Part of the rumor includes Marshon but he is being shipped for an additional 1st round pick.

[knicks_please]

If they can get rid of the Terry contract it helps balance it off. Part of the rumor includes Marshon but he is being shipped for an additional 1st round pick.

Ah I see. Well yeah I'd swap terry for 2 Gerald Wallaces lol.

[bdoody42]

So what do the celtics do now?

[IamRalpho]

So what do the celtics do now?

Wait until July 12th, then go from there. They cant do anything until then. Then its upto Ainge which way he wants to go.

[pac213up]

So what do the celtics do now?

Hoping they can get Gigi Datome. Expect Brett Brown to be named coach shortly.

[bdoody42]

What do you guys think of Brad Stevens being named head coach?

[IamRalpho]

Next step:

Clearing out some of the roster

1. Rondo, stay or go?
2. Humphries
3. Lee/Bass
4. Free agents? Anyone? Anyone?

They do not have any centers that are major leaguers right now on the roster. Humphries? Melo? Iverson? Yikes.

[bdoody42]

What would you go about doing. I would keep Rondo. We need to keep one guy who knows how to play at a high level. Humpheries will probably be kept until his contract runs out. I have no idea who would take Bass or Lee. They do need to find a quality center. Kelly Olynyk isn't ready lol.

Next step:

Clearing out some of the roster

1. Rondo, stay or go?
2. Humphries
3. Lee/Bass
4. Free agents? Anyone? Anyone?

They do not have any centers that are major leaguers right now on the roster. Humphries? Melo? Iverson? Yikes.

[pac213up]

What do you guys think of Brad Stevens being named head coach?

I was surprised but like the move quite a bit.

[pac213up]

Celtics Hire Butlers 23 Year Old Analytics Guru For Coaching Staff - RealGM Wiretap (http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228745/Celtics-Hire-Butlers-23-Year-Old-Analytics-Guru-For-Coaching-Staff)


http://media2.newsobserver.com/smedia/2013/03/20/17/00/NnVM5.AuSt.156.jpeg

[Gbulldogs1010]

Is it just me or does anyone else feel like the celtics aren't going for free agents fast enough? Almost all of our off season big men targets are gone. Only Greg Oden and Dejuan Blair remain.
Al Jefferson signed with bobcats
Paul milsap signed with hawks
Josh smith signed with pistons

Anyone seem like the celts are waiting too long?

[IamRalpho]

Is it just me or does anyone else feel like the celtics aren't going for free agents fast enough? Almost all of our off season big men targets are gone. Only Greg Oden and Dejuan Blair remain.
Al Jefferson signed with bobcats
Paul milsap signed with hawks
Josh smith signed with pistons

Anyone seem like the celts are waiting too long?

Danny Ainge siad he isnt going after any free agents.

Which really makes me think hes tanking. Plus theres too many players on the roster right now anyways, after Friday there will be 15? 16? I think

[Gbulldogs1010]

Danny Ainge siad he isnt going after any free agents.

Which really makes me think hes tanking. Plus theres too many players on the roster right now anyways, after Friday there will be 15? 16? I think

See I don't understand that. If he is tying to rebuild and restart hee needs to get new young guys and he seems satisfied with this roster. Dejuan Blair is only 24 is a viable big man who could help and he is not going after him.

[pac213up]

See I don't understand that. If he is tying to rebuild and restart hee needs to get new young guys and he seems satisfied with this roster. Dejuan Blair is only 24 is a viable big man who could help and he is not going after him.

There will be some roster modifications after July 10th or 12th via trades. He needs to stay cap flexible this season so signing a Free Agent would be counter productive. The young assets he is looking to develop are already on the roster.

[IamRalpho]

Celtics are up against the cap too, so they cant really sign anyone. Why would they use their mid level on a guy who wont be part of their plan?

[pac213up]

Another big man that can shoot.

Eurohoops.net ‏@Eurohoopsnet 4m

According to @TUBASKET Vitor Faverani is about to sign a 2+1 contract with the @celtics Noticias - tu|Basket (http://www.tubasket.com/noticia/nba/novedades-vitor-faverani-lo-tiene-casi-hecho-boston-acuerdo-dos-anos-opcional/3033453/105) …
Expand

[pac213up]

Good read on the Celtics latest addition.

Butler has found secret weapon in statistical guru Drew Cannon - March Madness 2013 - Pete Thamel - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-college-basketball-mens-tournament/news/20130320/drew-cannon-butler/)

[bdoody42]

Good read ^

What do you guys think about the summer league play of Pressey? He really seems to get other involved. Maybe he can make the roster?

[Gbulldogs1010]

Good read ^

What do you guys think about the summer league play of Pressey? He really seems to get other involved. Maybe he can make the roster?

Yup. I would say I am not impressed at all with Fab Melo. I would say out of the summer league so far the top 5 celtics in no particular order have to be
Pressey(great d, fast, good ball handler)
Olynyk(dominant on the offensive end, good at rebounding, can steal we'll for a big man)
Colton Iverson(good tough player, not flashy but plays hard and helps out)
Tony Mitchell (athletic, good shooter, very good defender)
Courtney Fells(very good shooter, reliable on d, plays smart, doesn't make the wrong play)

Is there anyone else? Djo had one good game but he doesn't impress me. Abromitus is a good shooter(kyle korver similar.). Granger is alright.

[pac213up]

Good read ^

What do you guys think about the summer league play of Pressey? He really seems to get other involved. Maybe he can make the roster?

He has a camp invite and the Celtics have a void at backup PG. Not sure if he is consistent enough at this point.

[bdoody42]

He seems to be up and down and they don't have a backup and since they probably won't be playoff bound maybe they sign him on the cheap and see how he does. He seems to do a good job getting other involved but his shot seems hit or miss.

He has a camp invite and the Celtics have a void at backup PG. Not sure if he is consistent enough at this point.

[pac213up]

Marc J. Spears ✔ @SpearsNBAYahoo

Brazilian center Victor Faverani has agreed in principle to sign a three-year deal with the Celtics, a source told Yahoo! Sports.

[IamRalpho]

Probably not a good sign for Khris Joseph's future that he wanst there today :/

[bdoody42]

I believe he will be Europe or NBDL bound for his career.

Probably not a good sign for Khris Joseph's future that he wanst there today :/

[IamRalpho]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1012201_10151708408513537_570650197_n.jpg

AND SO IT BEGINS

[pac213up]

Looks like they got a nice $10 Million trade execption as part of the deal. Nice to have in your back pocket come next offseason.

[bdoody42]

Lol ^ for some reason it doesn't feel the same....

[Quigley24]

I love how Pierce/Garnett/Allen all look happy, while Bogans and Brooks like they're getting their mugshot and Humphries looks like he's wondering "what the hell kind of jersey is this?". They better not come into camp with that attitude, or maybe for the team's sake they should. Better draft pick.

[Quigley24]

Just realized something about the numbering

Pierce/Garnett/Allen - 34+5+20=59

Bogans/Brooks/Humphries - 4+12+43=59!

Could it be......a sign! :eek:

[SHowley2003]

Brooks looks like it actually pains him to hold up that jersey. Bogans should just be happy he has a job. Did I miss something? Where is Wallace?

[Gbulldogs1010]

Brooks looks like it actually pains him to hold up that jersey. Bogans should just be happy he has a job. Did I miss something? Where is Wallace?

Wallace got excused cause he is running a bball camp. Kris joeseph got waived

[bdoody42]

Hopefully it means they lose 59 games this year lol

Just realized something about the numbering

Pierce/Garnett/Allen - 34+5+20=59

Bogans/Brooks/Humphries - 4+12+43=59!

Could it be......a sign! :eek:

[ray34allen21]

Ainge: Celtics not tanking season | NBA.com (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/07/15/ainge-says-celtics-not-tanking-season.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts)

[bdoody42]

I believe the Celtics will play hard everyone and not lay down to anyone. That being said would Ainge admit to tanking even if they were?

Ainge: Celtics not tanking season | NBA.com (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/07/15/ainge-says-celtics-not-tanking-season.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts)

[IamRalpho]

Ainge might be a lot of things, he knows being an 8th seed is the kiss of death to the future.

The trade exception is huge, but so pairing that with Wiggins or one of the kids/Green/Rondo/Sullinger.

Now thats a core to go for a title

[pac213up]

Instagram (http://instagram.com/paulpierce/)

Pierce instagram tribute.

[Cades]

Instagram (http://instagram.com/paulpierce/)

Pierce instagram tribute.

gonna be weird seeing him in a different jersey

[bdoody42]

Very true. One of the best celtics ever.

gonna be weird seeing him in a different jersey

[bdoody42]

Celtics sign Phil Pressey and Faverani

Celtics Sign Faverani, Pressey | The Official Site of the BOSTON CELTICS (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/sidebar/072213-celtics-sign-faverani-pressey)