WTF These scammers are getting worse everyday

[tristan20]

Lebron James UD Exquisite Rookie Auto Patch Mini Printing Plate 1 1 Make OFFER | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lebron-James-UD-Exquisite-Rookie-Auto-Patch-Mini-Printing-Plate-1-1-Make-Offer-/261227421279?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item3cd25e1e5f)

[UltimateDeron]

LOL.. that doesn't even make any sense. They don't print the auto and patch.

[Wings]

If someone buys that, they deserve to be kicked in the balls

[bettydaw1970]

Just when you think you have seen it all!!!

[BGSgradedRookie]

Sent report but eBay wont do anything

[AlabamaSlamma]

i think we have our next MJ MVP checklist logoman signed 1/1 AUTHENTIX contender.

i'll open the bidding at 0.01. i trust others will do their best to top me.

[Nyfancam01]

wow.... now I've seen it all

[AlabamaSlamma]

this may be a close second to the OP's lebron link:

2009 10 Exquisite Collection UD Jamal Crawford Base Card 063 199 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-10-Exquisite-Collection-UD-Jamal-Crawford-Base-Card-063-199-/230995460998?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item35c8670386)

[Nyfancam01]

lol^ doesn't even have a best offer option...

[snsdmonkey]

He forgot to reverse the image! Silly boy!

[hairytrojan]

im surprised some moron hasn't hit the but it now already LOL

[brandonlec]

LOL @ the 2 offers

-Brandon

[Nyfancam01]

we should all offer $1.58 Exactly. ALL OF US lol

and in the notes put " I know this is fake... SMH"


Anybody with me?

[mfisher27]

Looks pretty legit to me. I'd buy it, can probably make a good return at that price.

[AlabamaSlamma]

he dropped the price to 99 bucks. BUYERS MARKET.

[hairytrojan]

he dropped the price to 99 bucks. BUYERS MARKET.


so tempting!!! :D:D:D:D:D LOL

[Nyfancam01]

Looks pretty legit to me. I'd buy it, can probably make a good return at that price.

is it your listing??

jk jk I understand the sarcasm haha

[SportsItUpCards]

You think that's bad..... check out this Jordan :rolleyes:

1997 Finest Gold Embossed Refractor Michael Jordan BGS 9 56 74 Hot RARE | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Finest-Gold-Embossed-Refractor-Michael-Jordan-BGS-9-56-74-Hot-Rare-/261218535634?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item3cd1d688d2)

Check out the bidding activity with all the bid retractions.... :rolleyes:

From smoothfidelity

He changed his name on ebay to "honestseller0313"........... HONEST SELLER!!! looool :D

http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ReturnUserIdHistory&requested=honestseller0313

He's this guy from BO -----> http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/347506-anyone-know-what-kobe-worth.html

Now I understand why he was defending Rare23Air83 when I brought up his shilled card.... the same card as Smooth is selling right now. You remember, the card that "sold" for $18,250.00!!!!! :eek: Now it makes sense, as I didn't know back then anyway :rolleyes: smh

[jj2]

we should all offer $1.58 Exactly. ALL OF US lol

and in the notes put " I know this is fake... SMH"


Anybody with me?

The only problem with making these types of offers is it can somewhat legitimize the auction when other people see it. If the card was a decent fake, which this one obviously isn't, then a less knowledgeable person might be more tempted to make an offer if they see multiple offers have already been made.

[bettydaw1970]

[QUOTE=SportsItUpCards;5051825]You think that's bad..... check out this Jordan :rolleyes:

1997 Finest Gold Embossed Refractor Michael Jordan BGS 9 56 74 Hot RARE | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Finest-Gold-Embossed-Refractor-Michael-Jordan-BGS-9-56-74-Hot-Rare-/261218535634?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item3cd1d688d2)

i didnt check out all the drama..just gotta say
that card is awesome looking!



embosed
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gold
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jordan!!!!

my favorite 90s jordan insert card..

[SportsItUpCards]

[QUOTE=SportsItUpCards;5051825]You think that's bad..... check out this Jordan :rolleyes:

1997 Finest Gold Embossed Refractor Michael Jordan BGS 9 56 74 Hot RARE | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Finest-Gold-Embossed-Refractor-Michael-Jordan-BGS-9-56-74-Hot-Rare-/261218535634?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item3cd1d688d2)

i didnt check out all the drama..just gotta say
that card is awesome looking!



embosed
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gold
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jordan!!!!

my favorite 90s jordan insert card..

That's fine and great if you like the card...... but it's not the point here. It's not about drama. It's about facts right in front of anyone's eyes. I'm just posting the proof, but you can believe anything you want, that's fine.

Bidding Details (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=261218535634&aid=1***t&eu=5doUEmST0mSIftfZ8QfN%2BPsv8HlSGeeL&view=BUYER&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_Buyer_ViewLink)

and

Bidding Details (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=261218535634&aid=p***s&eu=yrMwR7zok1kgtMUTIOuPedvb%2FZBMK2Ku&view=BUYER&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_Buyer_ViewLink)

[sunsfan8]

3 offers, 3 people who need to be neutered.

[1eyed_jack]

You think that's bad..... check out this Jordan :rolleyes:

1997 Finest Gold Embossed Refractor Michael Jordan BGS 9 56 74 Hot RARE | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Finest-Gold-Embossed-Refractor-Michael-Jordan-BGS-9-56-74-Hot-Rare-/261218535634?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item3cd1d688d2)

Check out the bidding activity with all the bid retractions.... :rolleyes:

From smoothfidelity

He changed his name on ebay to "honestseller0313"........... HONEST SELLER!!! looool :D

http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ReturnUserIdHistory&requested=honestseller0313

He's this guy from BO -----> http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/347506-anyone-know-what-kobe-worth.html

Now I understand why he was defending Rare23Air83 when I brought up his shilled card.... the same card as Smooth is selling right now. You remember, the card that "sold" for $18,250.00!!!!! :eek: Now it makes sense, as I didn't know back then anyway :rolleyes: smh

I don't understand.

The top bidder right now has 27% activity with seller and 11 retractions in the last 6 months, so that seems pretty normal.

The second bidder right now has 0% activity with seller and 2 retractions in the last 6 months, so that seems normal.

The third highest bidder has 1% activity with seller and 1 retraction in the last 6 months, so nothing wrong there.


Maybe some strange activity before that, but still the top 3 bidders all seem legit right now.

[SportsItUpCards]

I don't understand.

The top bidder right now has 27% activity with seller and 11 retractions in the last 6 months, so that seems pretty normal.

The second bidder right now has 0% activity with seller and 2 retractions in the last 6 months, so that seems normal.

The third highest bidder has 1% activity with seller and 1 retraction in the last 6 months, so nothing wrong there.


Maybe some strange activity before that, but still the top 3 bidders all seem legit right now.

Well some of the top bidders have very high bid retractions.... but those are not necessary to be a scammer. You can have friends who never bid on your items bid, and it would look normal... the point is, I wouldn't be surprised of anything they do, since they're able to use all the fishy accounts to bid in the first place. What else are they capable of? I've seen these guys in action many times, and they're not about to stop now. Sure some bids can come from people with lower to no bid retractions, but that doesn't take away the facts. I don't care either way.... they've already ruined our hobby, and slowly things are coming back, but just pointing out one of the few remaining scam auctions.

[1eyed_jack]

Well some of the top bidders have very high bid retractions.... but those are not necessary to be a scammer. You can have friends who never bid on your items bid, and it would look normal... the point is, I wouldn't be surprised of anything they do, since they're able to use all the fishy accounts to bid in the first place. What else are they capable of? I've seen these guys in action many times, and they're not about to stop now. Sure some bids can come from people with lower to no bid retractions, but that doesn't take away the facts. I don't care either way.... they've already ruined our hobby, and slowly things are coming back, but just pointing out one of the few remaining scam auctions.

I don't know, you say you're pointing out facts, but faily to mention any facts about this auction

[Quigley24]

3 offers, 3 people who need to be neutered.

In my defense, I did only offer him $1 and asked how he got it in the message. He just declined.

[jjjackson32977]

when I see any activity over 10 percent with seller, or even 2-3 bid retractions I stay away from the item...unless it is possibly only goin to be shilled a few dollars, then i'll bite if it is something I really want.


But as a rule of thumb I stay away from that nonsense...right or wrong..

[tristan20]

Its very easy to fake activity percentages, whats to stop a guy from bidding on other items that he knows he will not win from other sellers?

The more he bids on with other sellers the lower his percentage gets.

[jjjackson32977]

Its very easy to fake activity percentages, whats to stop a guy from bidding on other items that he knows he will not win from other sellers?

The more he bids on with other sellers the lower his percentage gets.

+1

it is all about the numbers

[murrke03]

11 bid retractions in 6 months is normal?

[sunsfan8]

In my defense, I did only offer him $1 and asked how he got it in the message. He just declined.

Ok, 2 people. You're fine.:p

[bmf]

11 bid retractions in 6 months is normal?

man, 11 bid retractions is starting to look like a low number. it's just incredible how many scammers on ebay have 50 and more bid retractions. ebay does nothing of course...........but what else is new

[nissandriver77]

11 bid retractions in 6 months is normal?

1 Is normal not 11 , anyone that say's that is a joke .

I have 1 in 6 years and purchased over 350 product's.

Someone that has over 10 in 6mths means something is seriously wrong.

Ebay is a joke in regards to protection of Seller , the Buyer is secure as they have all the power , and the sleepers that are supposed to be ebay customer service could not give a crap in regards to right wrong all the care about is the fee's keep pouring in to keep the greedy shareholders happy .

Typical capitalistic system money money money with plenty of germs bottom feeding from to many loop holes in the system.

[1eyed_jack]

1 Is normal not 11 , anyone that say's that is a joke .

I have 1 in 6 years and purchased over 350 product's.

Someone that has over 10 in 6mths means something is seriously wrong.

Ebay is a joke in regards to protection of Seller , the Buyer is secure as they have all the power , and the sleepers that are supposed to be ebay customer service could not give a crap in regards to right wrong all the care about is the fee's keep pouring in to keep the greedy shareholders happy .

Typical capitalistic system money money money with plenty of germs bottom feeding from to many loop holes in the system.

Perhaps that many isn't normal.

Kinds of makes me nervous though

High bidder here has 9 retractions
David Lee 2012 13 Preferred 244 "Silhouettes" Prime Patch Auto 01 10 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/David-Lee-2012-13-Preferred-244-Silhouettes-PRIME-PATCH-AUTO-01-10-/121119238599?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item1c3344e9c7)

High bidder here has 16 retractions
eBay.com Item Bid History (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=271217004015)

High bidder here has 100% bidding with that seller, 3rd high bidder has 24 retractions, and 4th high bidder has 9
2012 13 Panini Preferred Silhouette Prime Bulls Patch Scottie Pippen Auto 4 5 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-13-Panini-Preferred-Silhouette-Prime-Bulls-Patch-Scottie-Pippen-Auto-4-5-/290925882661?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item43bc88ad25)

3rd highest bidder here has 8, 4th highest bidder has 17. And this was actually relisted after the sale and sold again by the same seller.
eBay.com Item Bid History (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=151042248940)

4th highest bidder here has 90% bid activity with seller!
12 13 Panini Preferred Jerry West Silhouettes Jumbo Patch Auto 2 5 Awesome | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-13-Panini-Preferred-Jerry-West-Silhouettes-jumbo-patch-auto-2-5-Awesome-/370816563523?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item565663b943)

I could post several more, but I wonder if Silhouettes are being manipulated now.

[nissandriver77]

Perhaps that many isn't normal.

Kinds of makes me nervous though

High bidder here has 9 retractions
David Lee 2012 13 Preferred 244 "Silhouettes" Prime Patch Auto 01 10 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/David-Lee-2012-13-Preferred-244-Silhouettes-PRIME-PATCH-AUTO-01-10-/121119238599?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item1c3344e9c7)

High bidder here has 16 retractions
eBay.com Item Bid History (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=271217004015)

High bidder here has 100% bidding with that seller, 3rd high bidder has 24 retractions, and 4th high bidder has 9
2012 13 Panini Preferred Silhouette Prime Bulls Patch Scottie Pippen Auto 4 5 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-13-Panini-Preferred-Silhouette-Prime-Bulls-Patch-Scottie-Pippen-Auto-4-5-/290925882661?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item43bc88ad25)

3rd highest bidder here has 8, 4th highest bidder has 17. And this was actually relisted after the sale and sold again by the same seller.
eBay.com Item Bid History (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=151042248940)

4th highest bidder here has 90% bid activity with seller!
12 13 Panini Preferred Jerry West Silhouettes Jumbo Patch Auto 2 5 Awesome | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-13-Panini-Preferred-Jerry-West-Silhouettes-jumbo-patch-auto-2-5-Awesome-/370816563523?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item565663b943)

I could post several more, but I wonder if Silhouettes are being manipulated now.

Everything hot has this garbage associated to it shill bidders , dummy bidder account's etc.... granted not all auctions but a lot do , all i can go on is that when i did a survey out of 60 people on here only 3 had 2-5 retractions in over 3 years , only one guy had 27 retractions that we all knew was shady as they come.

Why would you retract a bid for ? and that many times in six months ?

[1eyed_jack]

Everything hot has this garbage associated to it shill bidders , dummy bidder account's etc.... granted not all auctions but a lot do , all i can go on is that when i did a survey out of 60 people on here only 3 had 2-5 retractions in over 3 years , only one guy had 27 retractions that we all knew was shady as they come.

Why would you retract a bid for ? and that many times in six months ?

I just checked and I guess I only have one in the last 6 months!

I thought I had more haha. The only time I ever retract a bid is when I make a best offer on a card and the person takes the full 48 to respond, or just ignores it all together and the same item comes up through auction that I win. But I guess that's only happened once

[nissandriver77]

I just checked and I guess I only have one in the last 6 months!

I thought I had more haha. The only time I ever retract a bid is when I make a best offer on a card and the person takes the full 48 to respond, or just ignores it all together and the same item comes up through auction that I win. But I guess that's only happened once

See that's normal not having 18 + retractions , ebay is scammers paradise and it is getting worse and it's not just on cards.
Shill bidders/dummy bidders are all over all auctions on all areas it has become a joke .

What's more funny is the scammers are doing it for Nickle and dimes as it,s for small amounts under$2k desperate low life scamming to help them pay the rent as welfare doesn't cover.