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rookies
06-08-2013, 08:23 PM
What do you think are the All-Time Top 5 Lebron Exquisite cards to own? (you can't include 1/1s)

Here's mine...

1. 2003/04 RPA /99
2. 2003/04 RPA /23
3. 2003/04 Number pieces /23
4. 2009/10 Limited logo /16
5. 2008/09 EofE /10

tristan20
06-08-2013, 08:25 PM
03-04 EE
04-05 EE

NOT 09-10 LL for sure

Wings
06-08-2013, 08:59 PM
I think a Rc Emblems of Endorsement definitely belongs on the list. The 08-09 Emblems of Endorsement set might be the nicest looking set ever made btw.

hermanotarjeta
06-08-2013, 09:00 PM
1. Lebron/tiger dual auto patch/3
2. Lebron rpa/99
3. Lebron rpa gold/23

Of course, I'm a little biased, lol

GoldenBoy23
06-08-2013, 10:44 PM
Lebron rpa /99
Rpa /23
Dual lebron/kobe inscription /10
Lebron/tiger /3
Rap number pieces /23

thecomebacker
06-09-2013, 01:11 AM
Can I ask why most have the Lebron /99 rpa over the /23?
Thats like saying I'd rather have the NT (fill in the player here) /99 rpa over the /25 gold or /5 platinum.
Just curious here.... no offense either way.

SportsItUpCards
06-09-2013, 01:13 AM
2003/04 RPA /23

There is no contest.

UltimateDeron
06-09-2013, 01:30 AM
Can I ask why most have the Lebron /99 rpa over the /23?
Thats like saying I'd rather have the NT (fill in the player here) /99 rpa over the /25 gold or /5 platinum.
Just curious here.... no offense either way.

The /99 is his true rookie so that must be why people prefer it over the /23. /23 is obviously worth more. Will always be worth more.

verona
06-09-2013, 05:34 AM
Can I ask why most have the Lebron /99 rpa over the /23?
Thats like saying I'd rather have the NT (fill in the player here) /99 rpa over the /25 gold or /5 platinum.
Just curious here.... no offense either way.

Ed, I think some real RC collector consider the base rc like in 03-04 Exq the /99 the REAL RC!!! But normally a lower serial card should be more wanted!!!
The same told you Rick!!!

verona
06-09-2013, 05:47 AM
03-04 RPA /23
03-04 EoE
09-10 LL
03-04 LL
09-10 NN

Mattsurewood
06-09-2013, 11:59 AM
The 03-04 LL states "Game Used" on the back, and the RPA mentions photoshoot..I think that vaults the 03-04 LL into the top 5...

spinotron
06-09-2013, 01:19 PM
If I were to collect Lebron, I would love to get 03-04 EoE and 03-04 RPA /23.

justdagoodstuff
06-09-2013, 04:12 PM
I'll buy whatever lebron exquisite auto and patch cards that you don't feel are the all time top ones :) well, as long as he's not in a high school jersey lol. Thanks bye

dave_man79
09-27-2013, 11:36 PM
top 5 imo

1. exq rpa/23
2. exq rpa/99
3. exq EoE 03-04
4. 03-04 exq NP
5. 03-04 exq LL

Exquisite Man
09-28-2013, 12:02 AM
RPA /99
RPA /23
03-04 emblems
03-04 number pieces
04-05 titleists

spinotron
09-28-2013, 12:16 AM
Yeah, three high school state champions. /3

ninjacookies
09-28-2013, 12:17 AM
2003 rpa /23 #23/23.

Cardfather
09-28-2013, 01:57 AM
I would say 03-04 Exquisite /99 RC as log its a nice patch. The /99 sells for more than the /23 cause there are more demand for the rookies /99 since there are set/RC collectors but there aren't any /gold rc collectors. If the card has a premium number like 23/23 and 1/23 than it is is worth more than the /99
If his gold were /6, it would go for more

ninjacookies
09-28-2013, 02:19 AM
The /99 sells for more than the /23 cause there are more demand for the rookies /99 since there are set/RC collectors but there aren't any /gold rc collectors. If the card has a premium number like 23/23 and 1/23 than it is is worth more than the /99
If his gold were /6, it would go for more

Can someone please point me to proof that his gold rpa /23 sells for LESS than his rpa /99? Because that simply defies all logic.

That's like Durant's exquisite rpa /99 selling for more than the gold version. That simply just isn't true.

dave_man79
09-28-2013, 03:54 AM
Can someone please point me to proof that his gold rpa /23 sells for LESS than his rpa /99? Because that simply defies all logic.

That's like Durant's exquisite rpa /99 selling for more than the gold version. That simply just isn't true.

gold version always more valuable and sell more higher than regular version.

in this exquisite case, the different between gold and regular was only color/hologram effect , while the pic and material is the same, the different in price should not too far between them. imo.

but if we compare on ultimate collection rc card, the gold version (/25) have patch material and different design and picture from the regular ones, the gold price could be double or triple from the regular one.

Cardfather
09-28-2013, 05:21 AM
real sales show that the gold ones sell for less if it's higher than 15. That was the case for many years. The LeBron /99 and /23 are rare to find for sale these days so it's a seller's market for LeBron. I have bought a few of the golds and /99 and sold them. I always paid more for the /99. There was always more demand for the /99. Not the case of the Melo, Bosh and Wade. I know the collector that owned all of the jersey number if the golds. He used to own all of the Bosh, Wade, Melo, Lebron. He was missing the scrubs only like Troy Bell and Steve Blake. The cards he owned were at a premium since they were the jersey number.

I have followed the sales of these cards since 03-04 release date amongst other exquisite rookies

Cardfather
09-28-2013, 05:25 AM
gold version always more valuable and sell more higher than regular version.

in this exquisite case, the different between gold and regular was only color/hologram effect , while the pic and material is the same, the different in price should not too far between them. imo.

but if we compare on ultimate collection rc card, the gold version (/25) have patch material and different design and picture from the regular ones, the gold price could be double or triple from the regular one.

I agree that the ultimate golds are more desired since it's a variation and not a parallel

spinotron
09-28-2013, 08:57 AM
I would say 03-04 Exquisite /99 RC as log its a nice patch. The /99 sells for more than the /23 cause there are more demand for the rookies /99 since there are set/RC collectors but there aren't any /gold rc collectors. If the card has a premium number like 23/23 and 1/23 than it is is worth more than the /99
If his gold were /6, it would go for more

I don't doubt your knowledge of the market in general since you followed from day 1.

If we are talking about scrubs/set-fillers with jersey number higher than 10, then /99 outselling /jsy number gold is expected as set chaser drives the market not player collector, and your argument works.

Moreover, if we talk about something at a low price level, then rarer printed card selling less than a much higher printed cards isn't too surprising as fluctuation from random supply/demand will significantly affect the price resulting an outlier.

But here we are not in above two situations, there used to be few Lebron collectors, but now more and more people start to seriously collect him. I find it hard to believe /23 sells less than /99 if everything is comparable (similar condition, no special meaning in serial number, untampered average patch, bold unfaded auto) if selling is done in the right way (no shilling/hostaging).

RPA gold /23 might not be much more pricey than /99 true rookie, but still should sell more and people collecting /23 should be willing to pay more than /99. In fact, I only see less than 5 copies of /23 offered in the past three years although I don't follow the market religiously. With Lebron's hobby status rising, hype round RPA flashback and such rare supply, the RPA gold /23 should have no problem selling higher than RPA /99.

BTW, I'm aware in other sports, scrubs Exq RPA /(5 or so) still sells way less than RPA /99. Probably not in basketball.

Just my 0.02.

sportscentury
09-28-2013, 09:20 AM
The /99 sells for more than the /23

This is false.

gold version always more valuable and sell more higher than regular version.

This is true.

Cardfather
09-28-2013, 09:36 AM
Perhaps the market has changed from when I bought my Lebrons /99 and /23. When I bought them in 2005-2009 the /99 cost more than the gold. With the shorter supply of /23 and sellers asking for more, I guess prices might have changed. This reason why /99 were worth more cause it was considered the actual RC and not a parallel. At the time, there were set collectors or 03-04. Since then, people are just singles collector and not set collectors. I was away from the market from 2010-2011. Thus LeBron prices might have changed.

Cardfather
09-28-2013, 09:47 AM
Here is an interesting fact...Exquisite LeBron /99 and /23 sold for 2000-2600 for 5 months after release in June 2004 to October 2004

Exquisite Man
09-28-2013, 12:59 PM
hey man whats the average price of exquisite lebrons /99 and /23 now a days thanks.

the34truth
09-28-2013, 01:33 PM
04-05 Titleists must be one of the top.
Also wonder if anybody prefers a Chrome RC over a Chrome Ref RC.

Cardfather
09-28-2013, 01:49 PM
04-05 Titleists must be one of the top.
Also wonder if anybody prefers a Chrome RC over a Chrome Ref RC.

Not the same as Gold. Refractors have equity from the 93 Finest Baseball set. The card looks different with the rainbow look. The same argument could be said about PMGs over base RC cards.

ninjacookies
09-28-2013, 05:00 PM
I don't doubt that you've been tracking them, cardfather...but I still think there is no way on a completely fair field minus variables that his /99 rpa sells for more than his /23.

The thing about that comparison, is that the /23 is so scarce, that it will rarely ever pop up for sale. So when it does, the asking sale price may be so high that it drives away most collectors and they instead target the /99 due to it being more readily available at a lesser price. I doubt that there are many complete sales records of the /23 golds to back your claim (at a similar time when another /99 was sold), but more as a 'generalized' statement based on your opinion of set collectors/etc.

/23 vs /99 is not even close in terms of print run, /23 is not even a fraction and makes them rare beyond belief.

Just like the Durant base RPA typically used to sell for (before his huge price explosion) ~3-3500, while his golds (whenever they surfaced) went for around 4500-5k+, depending on the patch. But Lebron golds are even that much harder to locate due to personal collectors and it being the inaugural year of exquisite. Thus you won't find many completed sales, and if so...probably most are done off ebay for a card of that magnitude. Set collectors of the /99 rpa's will always have an opportunity to pick one up as there are always at least 2 or 3 up on ebay at any given time. Can't say the same for the gold.

NYFAN2014
11-29-2018, 10:50 PM
The /99 is his true rookie so that must be why people prefer it over the /23. /23 is obviously worth more. Will always be worth more.

I think even though the /23 is considered RPA parallel versus the /99 true rc RPA the /23 RPA gold one day will deviate from the /99 in a bigger way we are seeing right now. It would make sense but lets see in a few years or a decade what happens.

NYFAN2014
11-29-2018, 10:52 PM
The 03-04 LL states "Game Used" on the back, and the RPA mentions photoshoot..I think that vaults the 03-04 LL into the top 5...

oh wow! i did not know that! wait thats odd because the product was released with both cards so why couldnt they take gu to make rpa? why only photoshoot? thats bs