Card Collecting In 2113.

[TheFrenzy]

I love science fiction and tales of time-travel, so bear with me on this one.

I realize that many collectors only care about there next flip and that it's the rare collector who actually cares about how their collection will be viewed by future generations - BUT - let's say that you are actually your great-grandson: how would you have wanted your great-grandfather (present day you) to have collected and preserved sports cards?

Essentially, how would you preserve cards today in order for them to last 100-1000 years? And what kind of collection would mean anything to someone 100 years from now?

Yes, somewhat vague, but bear with me and try to slip into a "sci-fi" frame of mind for this.

[blevins26]

Book cards are going to gain value in the long run for several reasons:

-Large signing area
-Large patches
-More room makes the layout more visually pleasing
-Less examples of book cards vs. traditional cards will make a well preserved book card more rare


100 years from now, collectors are going to laugh at Beckett Grading for several reasons:

-Not based on science
-Subjectivity of grader
-Mass preservation of cards will make them less valuable, collectors won't be excited to buy a 9.5 that was slabbed 80 years ago like they will be to find a non-graded card that is in mint condition

[DieselPack1996]

I plan on building a nice collection of cards that Ik will retain their value such as HOFers and such. When I am done collecting (hopefully I have kids) and I plan on leaving a shoe box in my house full of cards maybe 5k-10k worth if I collect that long. All Cards will be pennysleeved and toploaded unless it wont fit then I will buy the proper case. But I am going to leave my children a note in the shoe box explaining the value of the cards (in case they are not into collecting) saying this is a chance to help you chase your dreams. When the time comes choose to either keep or sell these cards to help you chase your dreams, start a hobby, or help ease some stress from your life or something like that think it will be a cool way to pass it on but Im only 19 we shall see if i remember my ideas in 50 years lmao!!

[Shogun2049]

I love science fiction and tales of time-travel, so bear with me on this one.

I realize that many collectors only care about there next flip and that it's the rare collector who actually cares about how their collection will be viewed by future generations - BUT - let's say that you are actually your great-grandson: how would you have wanted your great-grandfather (present day you) to have collected and preserved sports cards?

Since he's not here anymore, I'll take up the slack.

It's "their" not "there". "There" is in reference to a location, such as "The car is over there." "Their" is a possessive usage, such as "That is their car."

[HTTR]

Since he's not here anymore, I'll take up the slack.

It's "their" not "there". "There" is in reference to a location, such as "The car is over there." "Their" is a possessive usage, such as "That is their car."

I didn't know we were teaching English today on the forum.

[NorwayAllDay]

I didn't know we were teaching English today on the forum.

Get used to it, the number of grammar Nazis on here is mind boggling.

[HTTR]

I hope that everybody knows that English is the least desirable major you can have coming out of college, going into the workforce.

[FanboyOfNone]

I hope that everybody knows that English is the least desirable major you can have coming out of college, going into the workforce.

Hey now, I assume those of us with Literature degrees aren't the same people correcting grammar in most cases. Low blow. :(

Besides, there's always philosophy majors. :p

[HTTR]

Hey now, I assume those of us with Literature degrees aren't the same people correcting grammar in most cases. Low blow. :(

Besides, there's always philosophy majors. :p

LOL, not intended as a low blow, it just shows the level on concern that America places on the proper use of grammer and spelling.

[newton615]

I hope that everybody knows that English is the least desirable major you can have coming out of college, going into the workforce.

You mean employers dont like it when you correct their grammar on a job interview?

[FanboyOfNone]

I love science fiction and tales of time-travel, so bear with me on this one.

I realize that many collectors only care about there next flip and that it's the rare collector who actually cares about how their collection will be viewed by future generations - BUT - let's say that you are actually your great-grandson: how would you have wanted your great-grandfather (present day you) to have collected and preserved sports cards?

Essentially, how would you preserve cards today in order for them to last 100-1000 years? And what kind of collection would mean anything to someone 100 years from now?

Yes, somewhat vague, but bear with me and try to slip into a "sci-fi" frame of mind for this.

FanboyOfNone gazed earnestly at the time capsule his great-grandfather had left for him. Through the clear glass he could see cards arranged alphabetically in two sections. The first group encased in thick plastic of a lost era. The second in more...arcane, thin strips. Sleeves they were once called? Regardless, time had been kind and th-

The ball dropped. Crowds roared over the translucent ten foot wide faux-screen erected in the middle of his bedroom. It was midnight, the dawn of 2113.

"Screen off. Capsule open." FanboyOfNone stammered. The time lock was finally disengaged.

He reached into the cylinder like a kid on Candylon 17. The thick plastic was his initial focus. PSA? BGS? 9.5? A 12.0 on the "Projection-Based 3D Modeling" grade? None of it made sense, but the cards looked good. Simple. FanboyOfNone was tired of the cards of the 22nd century anyway. Who needs a 1/1 Clone-Ready Blood Sample of Mick Rando?

The "sleeve" based cards weren't in the best condition, but they were both numerous and varied in design.

FanboyOfNone spoke to himself without noticing, "Let's see. Mark Sanchez. 2012. Head of the Class card. Nice piece of cardboard. Sounds like a great player!"

He moved to his chair. "Screen on! Play Mark Sanchez highlights. 2012...NFL season," he stated decisively. The screen stayed blank as it searched hard...the wait would be a while.

[matt roberson]

I hope that everybody knows that English is the least desirable major you can have coming out of college, going into the workforce.

Hey now, I assume those of us with Literature degrees aren't the same people correcting grammar in most cases. Low blow. :(

Besides, there's always philosophy majors. :p

How about art history :).

[TheFrenzy]

I apologize OP. I'm actually a very insecure person deep down inside and that's why I can't resist pointing out typos that were obviously accidental.

It's perfectly fine my friend! I'd had a few glasses of wine last anyways. (That's where my best thread ideas come from) I had a laugh when I saw my typo too.

FanboyOfNone gazed earnestly at the time capsule his great-grandfather had left for him. Through the clear glass he could see cards arranged alphabetically in two sections. The first group encased in thick plastic of a lost era. The second in more...arcane, thin strips. Sleeves they were once called? Regardless, time had been kind and th-

The ball dropped. Crowds roared over the translucent ten foot wide faux-screen erected in the middle of his bedroom. It was midnight, the dawn of 2113.

"Screen off. Capsule open." FanboyOfNone stammered. The time lock was finally disengaged.

He reached into the cylinder like a kid on Candylon 17. The thick plastic was his initial focus. PSA? BGS? 9.5? A 12.0 on the "Projection-Based 3D Modeling" grade? None of it made sense, but the cards looked good. Simple. FanboyOfNone was tired of the cards of the 22nd century anyway. Who needs a 1/1 Clone-Ready Blood Sample of Mick Rando?

The "sleeve" based cards weren't in the best condition, but they were both numerous and varied in design.

FanboyOfNone spoke to himself without noticing, "Let's see. Mark Sanchez. 2012. Head of the Class card. Nice piece of cardboard. Sounds like a great player!"

He moved to his chair. "Screen on! Play Mark Sanchez highlights. 2012...NFL season," he stated decisively. The screen stayed blank as it searched hard...the wait would be a while.

I am in awe, sir. This is brilliant.

[usafshelland]

Book cards are going to gain value in the long run for several reasons:

-Large signing area
-Large patches
-More room makes the layout more visually pleasing
-Less examples of book cards vs. traditional cards will make a well preserved book card more rare


100 years from now, collectors are going to laugh at Beckett Grading for several reasons:

-Not based on science
-Subjectivity of grader
-Mass preservation of cards will make them less valuable, collectors won't be excited to buy a 9.5 that was slabbed 80 years ago like they will be to find a non-graded card that is in mint condition

Don't really agee with the 9.5 comment... that's like saying you'd rather have a current Andrew Luck Ungraded Contenders RC vs a 1998 BGS 9.5 Contenders Peyton Manning. Really????

[panther252]

FanboyOfNone gazed earnestly at the time capsule his great-grandfather had left for him. Through the clear glass he could see cards arranged alphabetically in two sections. The first group encased in thick plastic of a lost era. The second in more...arcane, thin strips. Sleeves they were once called? Regardless, time had been kind and th-

The ball dropped. Crowds roared over the translucent ten foot wide faux-screen erected in the middle of his bedroom. It was midnight, the dawn of 2113.

"Screen off. Capsule open." FanboyOfNone stammered. The time lock was finally disengaged.

He reached into the cylinder like a kid on Candylon 17. The thick plastic was his initial focus. PSA? BGS? 9.5? A 12.0 on the "Projection-Based 3D Modeling" grade? None of it made sense, but the cards looked good. Simple. FanboyOfNone was tired of the cards of the 22nd century anyway. Who needs a 1/1 Clone-Ready Blood Sample of Mick Rando?

The "sleeve" based cards weren't in the best condition, but they were both numerous and varied in design.

FanboyOfNone spoke to himself without noticing, "Let's see. Mark Sanchez. 2012. Head of the Class card. Nice piece of cardboard. Sounds like a great player!"

He moved to his chair. "Screen on! Play Mark Sanchez highlights. 2012...NFL season," he stated decisively. The screen stayed blank as it searched hard...the wait would be a while.

This may just be the greatest thing I have ever read on the Internet...

[realshemp]

Don't really agee with the 9.5 comment... that's like saying you'd rather have a current Andrew Luck Ungraded Contenders RC vs a 1998 BGS 9.5 Contenders Peyton Manning. Really????

I'd ALWAYS prefer an ungraded card. I dislike grading and I dislike the slabs they put them in.

[usafshelland]

I'd ALWAYS prefer an ungraded card. I dislike grading and I dislike the slabs they put them in.

Didn't say I like graded cards either, but I'll protect them in that fashion if that's what it takes. Don't need a high BV card getting damaged because it fell out of it's toploader. ya know?

[Grza]

Collecting of any kind will be outlawed by a totalitarian police state. Paypal will be run by the WRS and transactions will be limited to provision credits only. Breach of these protocols will be punished by serving time in the data mines. The VNFL will be only viewed during specified human interaction blocks. Cards will be a black market luxury, as will emotion.

[ivbaseball06]

If trends continue, card collecting will be long gone in 100 years.

[addicted36]

I don't think that 100 years from now that people then will look back at today's football players as being that great, kinda like how we today look back on the guys who played in the 1930's-1950's. We know they were tough, but great? By today's standards? Not really

My guess is that in less then 40 years time the game will have evolved so much that either it's no longer played, or the opposite has happened and football is still being played but the stats and numbers that we find impressive today fall so short in comparison that they hardly seem relevant. Someone like Jerry Rice who has numbers that no one can touch today will likely be today's Jim Brown...where his numbers are still top 10 all time but no longer the measuring stick as the GOAT. The numbers today's players are putting up are all time marks, Calvin Johnson just broke the all time receiving season record last year. Anyone thinking that records won't be broken just is dreaming to me (For the most part but not always true...I don't see Cal's playing streak ever broken but that's baseball).

The guess that the NFL has a very short lifespan makes some sense to me. People don't understand how serious and potentially dangerous the concussion issue will have on the leagues future. Or what about the likelyhood that one day an on the field nationally televised death occurs due to play? What effect in the PC world we live in will that have? It's almost as if people see it dying soon as well when you mention the retired players union and how they chip away at the very fabric of the game with all of the legal battles and post playing injury settlements they have going on. Instead of promoting the sport and preserving it they are tearing it down looking for a money grab. You don't see that happening in baseball. The future of the NFL is in doubt

As far as card collecting ask yourself, how many cards do you have from players that played 30 (1983), 40 (1973), 50 or more years ago? My guess...most not many if any. So why would it be any different in 30, 40, or 50 years from now?

[TheBurg]

I don't think that 100 years from now that people then will look back at today's football players as being that great, kinda like how we today look back on the guys who played in the 1930's-1950's. We know they were tough, but great? By today's standards? Not really

My guess is that in less then 40 years time the game will have evolved so much that either it's no longer played, or the opposite has happened and football is still being played but the stats and numbers that we find impressive today fall so short in comparison that they hardly seem relevant. Someone like Jerry Rice who has numbers that no one can touch today will likely be today's Jim Brown...where his numbers are still top 10 all time but no longer the measuring stick as the GOAT. The numbers today's players are putting up are all time marks, Calvin Johnson just broke the all time receiving season record last year. Anyone thinking that records won't be broken just is dreaming to me (For the most part but not always true...I don't see Cal's playing streak ever broken but that's baseball).

The guess that the NFL has a very short lifespan makes some sense to me. People don't understand how serious and potentially dangerous the concussion issue will have on the leagues future. Or what about the likelyhood that one day an on the field nationally televised death occurs due to play? What effect in the PC world we live in will that have? It's almost as if people see it dying soon as well when you mention the retired players union and how they chip away at the very fabric of the game with all of the legal battles and post playing injury settlements they have going on. Instead of promoting the sport and preserving it they are tearing it down looking for a money grab. You don't see that happening in baseball. The future of the NFL is in doubt

As far as card collecting ask yourself, how many cards do you have from players that played 30 (1983), 40 (1973), 50 or more years ago? My guess...most not many if any. So why would it be any different in 30, 40, or 50 years from now?

Because autograph and relic cards exist now:)!

[mnvikingstwins]

I didn't know we were teaching English today on the forum.

I know. I thought today was the personal fitness lesson.

[TheFrenzy]

I know. I thought today was the personal fitness lesson.

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[addicted36]

Because autograph and relic cards exist now:)!

So....you want me to suspend my belief that football card collecting is all about the rookie card. Which we all know it is. And believe that the reason we don't care about Joe Montana's rookie card is because it's not signed?

[FanboyOfNone]

I am in awe, sir. This is brilliant.

This may just be the greatest thing I have ever read on the Internet...

Thanks guys! This topic gave me a chance to work on my writing. :D

[TheFrenzy]

Thanks guys! This topic gave me a chance to work on my writing. :D

If you ever wrote a sci-fi novella about collecting in the distant future, I would read every delicious word.

[FanboyOfNone]

If you ever wrote a sci-fi novella about collecting in the distant future, I would read every delicious word.

Haha, maybe one day. Many "aspiring writers" hate their work too much for big undertakings. :rolleyes:

FanboyOfNone gazed earnestly at the time capsule his great-grandfather had left for him. Through the clear glass he could see cards arranged alphabetically in two sections. The first group encased in thick plastic of a lost era. The second in more...arcane, thin strips. Sleeves they were once called? Regardless, time had been kind and th-

The ball dropped. Crowds roared over the translucent ten foot wide faux-screen erected in the middle of his bedroom. It was midnight, the dawn of 2113.

"Screen off. Capsule open." FanboyOfNone stammered. The time lock was finally disengaged.

He reached into the cylinder like a kid on Candylon 17. The thick plastic was his initial focus. PSA? BGS? 9.5? A 12.0 on the "Projection-Based 3D Modeling" grade? None of it made sense, but the cards looked good. Simple. FanboyOfNone was tired of the cards of the 22nd century anyway. Who needs a 1/1 Clone-Ready Blood Sample of Mick Rando?

The "sleeve" based cards weren't in the best condition, but they were both numerous and varied in design.

FanboyOfNone spoke to himself without noticing, "Let's see. Mark Sanchez. 2012. Head of the Class card. Nice piece of cardboard. Sounds like a great player!"

He moved to his chair. "Screen on! Play Mark Sanchez highlights. 2012...NFL season," he stated decisively. The screen stayed blank as it searched hard...the wait would be a while.

The screen came to life. "One result found. Feed incoming."

Butt...fumble? The only result was unforgiving. Possibly the worst error in sports since Joe Monosyllable threw that bullet pass to a ref, who scored, in the Ultimate Hoverball Championship game of 2089. But everyone knew the 2072 American-Japanese merger between the NFL and the Super Happy Fun Time Hoverboard Football League would lead to problems.

Fanboy set his phaser to "vaporize all" and stammered, "Destroy all Mark Sanchez cards." With a light pull on the trigger, the day had been saved.

Wait. Wait...what's this? A Timothy Tebow 1/1 auto from 2020 White House Bound? Supreme Overlord Timothy Tebow played football? Fanboy held a unique piece of history in his hands. The picture showed Overlord Tebow with human arms and legs. A human body! A far cry from the current 5-story tall battle cyborg which now housed his brain.

He was sure to shield his newly prized possession from the myriad cameras installed in his house by the powers that be. Ever since the purge of 2055 when Cyborg Tebow's killswitch was engaged to "destroy all nonbelievers," it was better to be safe than sorry...

[bigsmitt92]

I love this thread, great reading. Impo i think in 100 years the game will be so pussified it will in no shape or form represent its glorious past, plus by then it will be played by aliens and robots.

[TheFrenzy]

The screen came to life. "One result found. Feed incoming."

Butt...fumble? The only result was unforgiving. Possibly the worst error in sports since Joe Monosyllable threw that bullet pass to a ref, who scored, in the Ultimate Hoverball Championship game of 2089. But everyone knew the 2072 American-Japanese merger between the NFL and the Super Happy Fun Time Hoverboard Football League would lead to problems.

Fanboy set his phaser to "vaporize all" and stammered, "Destroy all Mark Sanchez cards." With a light pull on the trigger, the day had been saved.

Wait. Wait...what's this? A Timothy Tebow 1/1 auto from 2020 White House Bound? Supreme Overlord Timothy Tebow played football? Fanboy held a unique piece of history in his hands. The picture showed Overlord Tebow with human arms and legs. A human body! A far cry from the current 5-story tall battle cyborg which now housed his brain.

He was sure to shield his newly prized possession from the myriad cameras installed in his house by the powers that be. Ever since the purge of 2055 when Cyborg Tebow's killswitch was engaged to "destroy all nonbelievers," it was better to be safe than sorry...

LMFAO......OMFG......ROFLMAO.......LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!

Please don't stop! Goodell's infatuation with expanding into Europe, cloning/resurrecting players, genetically modified athletes, rampant corporate sponsorships, the Redskins name, global warming and ability to play football outdoors in Canada/Russia/The North Pole, 3D printing and molecular-replicators and their effect on collecting.......just trying to pitch you more material so you'll KEEP WRITING!!!