My CuStom made Penny cards for penny1fan.

[ebaybae]

..................................

[paul06901]

Aaron backing out of a deal?


That doesn't sound like him at all!


Guess he figured out he wouldn't be able to flip these for profit like he did on his Silhouettes Prime!


It must be nice to say you're a collector to get good prices from people on cards you have no problem flipping for huge profits ... yet you're still a "true" collector


:D oh boy!

[GoldenBoy23]

Im gonna be pissed if that happens

[Jin]

Wow, not cool..

But those look very nice, congrats!

[FreeMan12406]

Subscribed for sure.

[dbroockerd]

What was he gonna get them signed then resell and try to land a ton of profit?

[knicks_please]

how much do you charge for something like this?

[scackles]

need to start collecting money upfront... with paypal policies you should be able to complete and deliever in 45 days and cover both ends.

[AbraCalabro]

Wondering how much you charge per card as well, please PM me.

[siumaisifu]

PM sent in regards to costs for your card design. Sorry to hear you had bad dealing with that member. Hope he comes out with a good explanation as to why he's been ignoring your messages.

[penny1fan]

wtf? Dude really? I have been out fishing since purchasing my new boat ... I only have an IPOD and can jump on WIFI only so often.You can check my lack of activity on the boards within the past week.I was not trying to ignore you or anyone else.Just got on my PC this morning and see all of this crap .. WOW! Payment sent....

[penny1fan]

What was he gonna get them signed then resell and try to land a ton of profit?

I am going to get a few signed ttm me myself and a few of my good friends overseas who also are big Penny collectors.I don't think these cards would demand a big "profit"

[penny1fan]

Aaron backing out of a deal?


That doesn't sound like him at all!


Guess he figured out he wouldn't be able to flip these for profit like he did on his Silhouettes Prime!


It must be nice to say you're a collector to get good prices from people on cards you have no problem flipping for huge profits ... yet you're still a "true" collector


:D oh boy!

This coming from a tool who low balls sellers daily on EBAY to buy a card for $10 then throws it on EBAY for $500 BIN. :)!

[penny1fan]

sent payment 15 mins ago! Stop ignoring my pm!!!!!!!! Omg if another 10 mins passes i am creating a call out thread!!!

[paul06901]

This coming from a tool who low balls sellers daily on EBAY to buy a card for $10 then throws it on EBAY for $500 BIN. :)!

Says the guy who lowballed and screwed over some chump for the silhouettes prime so he could flip it and buy a new boat with that guy's money :D :devil:

[penny1fan]

Says the guy who lowballed and screwed over some chump for the silhouettes prime so he could flip it and buy a new boat with that guy's money :D :devil:

You Jelly bro? I actually sold several of my other newer Suns uni cards as well are you gonna fuss about that too?The guy hit that silo card in a case break who had $65 invested the suns slot and was very happy to take my offer on it.I notice you have been stuck in the 20's Itrader for nearly what 8 months now?,Whats a matter nobody on the forums stupid enough to sell you their cards for next to nothing?The difference between you and I is I actually make and get deals done because I am not a greedy scumbag like you.Have you busted any more graded N/M cards lately to sell raw?

[ManInTheMirror]

Wow this is all quite pathetic.

MITM, leaving the bball section to return home....

[Wings]

Wow this is all quite pathetic.

MITM, leaving the bball section to return home....

Looking at your posts and itrader counts maybe you need to step away from the forum altogether.

[penny1fan]

Wow this is all quite pathetic.

MITM, leaving the bball section to return home....

You are telling me,I can't make it back onto the boards for not even a week and see this :rolleyes:.Payment was sent over 30 mins ago and nothing back from the fool who created this thread.

HELLO OP!?!? PAYMENT WAS SENT ....

[ManInTheMirror]

Looking at your posts and itrader counts maybe you need to step away from the forum altogether.
And right on que LOL

oh gosh my feelings are hurt!

sorry i'm not like you guys

carry on then

[Wings]

And right on que LOL

oh gosh my feelings are hurt!

sorry i'm not like you guys

carry on then

Right on que, you not leaving like you said you were. Keep refreshing bud, you got nothing better to do.

[penny1fan]

Paul it's nice to know that your so jealous of me and my cards that you still have a hard one for me.You just can't keep that down huh?How about you start pointing that little thing in someone else's direction because I don't go that way chief :) K? Thanks!

[pingbling23]

does u.d. still own the rights to skybox, i dont know if its a good idea to be printing cards with the skybox logo and selling them.

[Jef]

it is currently 1:52am in Seoul. The update may not come for a bit.

[paul06901]

Paul it's nice to know that your so jealous of me and my cards that you still have a hard one for me.You just can't keep that down huh?How about you start pointing that little thing in someone else's direction because I don't go that way chief :) K? Thanks!

Are you hitting on me?



Anyways, you should stop calling yourself a Penny Hardaway collector when you only say that to get better prices to flip the cards.


I'm sure that guy sold it to you thinking you were a Penny collector and would keep it for your PC, and gave you a nice deal.


Then you go and sell it to buy a dumbass boat lmao.

PENNYFAN THE HYPOCRITE is at it again!


Buy a damn better internet connection instead of a boat so you can complete your deals properly and not leave people hanging for a week! :)!

[penny1fan]

does u.d. still own the rights to skybox, i dont know if its a good idea to be printing cards with the skybox logo and selling them.

It's probably not a good idea at all.I just thought they looked nice and was gonna try and get some signed TTM for myself and other Penny collector's for next to nothing.I am good friends with most of the Penny collector's world wide.I was not able to make it on the PC this week so for everyone who I disappointed are possibly ruined your day I am very sorry!

This is my second time doing a deal with a new member with 0 Itrader and both times have been bad.One kid backed out of a sale and this guy is apparently insane.

[xavieronly1]

does u.d. still own the rights to skybox, i dont know if its a good idea to be printing cards with the skybox logo and selling them.

You can easily get into legal issue with product using NBA logo. Personal use is fine. Selling for profit is not.

[penny1fan]

Are you hitting on me?



Anyways, you should stop calling yourself a Penny Hardaway collector when you only say that to get better prices to flip the cards.


I'm sure that guy sold it to you thinking you were a Penny collector and would keep it for your PC, and gave you a nice deal.


Then you go and sell it to buy a dumbass boat lmao.

PENNYFAN THE HYPOCRITE is at it again!


Buy a damn better internet connection instead of a boat so you can complete your deals properly and not leave people hanging for a week! :)!

I collect cards and have one of the best collections to prove so.How about you? Your whole intent in this hobby is to make a buck and feed your family.That is pathetic and sad.All of the real collectors agreed that I made the right decision and trust me it was not easy.I essentially traded 1 card from a hobby that I love for a lifetime enjoyment of another hobby that I love which is fishing.If you wan't I can show you all of my other Penny cards Paul :).Nobody but you thinks I am a hypocrite for selling a 12-13 Penny Hardaway card for $2250.You can try all you want to twist things around to make yourself feel better about who you are as a person and what you represent within the hobby.Shouldn't you be refreshing the ebay basketball card page "newly listed" with the hopes of lowballing an un educated seller out of their cards so you can feed your family tonight?What a creep ....

[SportsItUpCards]

does u.d. still own the rights to skybox, i dont know if its a good idea to be printing cards with the skybox logo and selling them.

My thought exactly.

[MoezTavern]

Still waiting on my Reggie Miller :-) ...and if possible...I'd also prefer to have it without the facsimile signature. That way, if I ever get a chance to see him broadcasting at a game, I could try to have him sign it for real!

[Sikkcaden]

Wow this is all quite pathetic.

MITM, leaving the bball section to return home....

I never actually heard the whole story...

Why did you ask Haiku for money/ask for him to buy you something on eBay?

[ManInTheMirror]

I never actually heard the whole story...

Why did you ask Haiku for money/ask for him to buy you something on eBay?
Feel free to PM me if you need to, inbox is always open (unless I'm asleep, working or living my life).

For the trollers- I never asked Haiku for money, that should be a given.

[paul06901]

I collect cards and have one of the best collections to prove so.How about you? Your whole intent in this hobby is to make a buck and feed your family.That is pathetic and sad.All of the real collectors agreed that I made the right decision and trust me it was not easy.I essentially traded 1 card from a hobby that I love for a lifetime enjoyment of another hobby that I love which is fishing.If you wan't I can show you all of my other Penny cards Paul :).Nobody but you thinks I am a hypocrite for selling a 12-13 Penny Hardaway card for $2250.You can try all you want to twist things around to make yourself feel better about who you are as a person and what you represent within the hobby.Shouldn't you be refreshing the ebay basketball card page "newly listed" with the hopes of lowballing an un educated seller out of their cards so you can feed your family tonight?What a creep ....

You profited off of a card you got a good deal on because you were a Penny collector ... nice job bro! :)! You are a TRUE collector Aaron, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!!!

[Sikkcaden]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/tumblr_ljh0puClWT1qfkt17.gif

[tebowrules]

I never actually heard the whole story...

Why did you ask Haiku for money/ask for him to buy you something on eBay?

Got the popcorn popping......lets get ready to rumble.

[ManInTheMirror]

You profited off of a card you got a good deal on because you were a Penny collector ... nice job bro! :)! You are a TRUE collector Aaron, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!!!
And how do you feel about the OP profiting off of his customs? Just curious.

[Sikkcaden]

Feel free to PM me if you need to, inbox is always open (unless I'm asleep, working or living my life).

For the trollers- I never asked Haiku for money, that should be a given.

**didnt meant to post this as a troll post***

MITM told me the story and its legit.

[SportsItUpCards]

I never actually heard the whole story...

Why did you ask Haiku for money/ask for him to buy you something on eBay?

:eek:

Is this true? I wonder how many people that were involved in the whole haiku thing are still part of this forum.... smh

[Sikkcaden]

:eek:

Is this true? I wonder how many people that were involved in the whole haiku thing are still part of this forum.... smh

Lol its not true. Haiku used him as an excuse to get suspended to start off the events that happened.

My bad everyone.

[ManInTheMirror]

:eek:

Is this true? I wonder how many people that were involved in the whole haiku thing are still part of this forum.... smh
Is what true? He didn't even say anything- he asked a question.

That was the worst troll attempt I have ever witnessed in my life.

[ebaybae]

It's probably not a good idea at all.I just thought they looked nice and was gonna try and get some signed TTM for myself and other Penny collector's for next to nothing.I am good friends with most of the Penny collector's world wide.I was not able to make it on the PC this week so for everyone who I disappointed are possibly ruined your day I am very sorry!

This is my second time doing a deal with a new member with 0 Itrader and both times have been bad.One kid backed out of a sale and this guy is apparently insane.

Yeh, Insane? :eek: Sorry but I posted this thread AFTER saw your serveral posts on forum. I think you should have to send PM to me first to keep the promise because you recognized delay.

[AbraCalabro]

Every one relax, we're all missing the most important issue...I still have yet to see an example of a Shawn Kemp card. :) ;)

[penny1fan]

Yeh, Insane? :eek: Sorry but I posted this thread AFTER saw your serveral posts on forum. I think you should have to send PM to me first to keep the promise because you recognized delay.

Several posts? hmmm what was it really 2 posts?And so now you refund my paymet? Really!? So what exactly are you or were you trying to accomplish here?

[paul06901]

And how do you feel about the OP profiting off of his customs? Just curious.

I don't condone that either. I think custom cards are cool, but in this day and age end up somehow falling into the wrong hands and on eBay trying to rip some naive, new collector off for good money.


Patch fakers, custom cards, fleer bankruptcy cards, auto-fakers .... all are becoming more prevalent and really taking this hobby downward for many people.

[sunsfan8]

The basketball section never disappoints. Keep on keeping on, you special creatures.

[BGSgradedRookie]

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y462/staffpicks/Animated_GIFs/smile.gif (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/staffpicks/media/Animated_GIFs/smile.gif.html)

[Jin]

what..is..going..on..

[zdmetal]

http://i.imgur.com/7coCy.gif

[bdoody42]

I never understood why people care if someone buys a card and then decides to sell it. It is their property and have the right to do whatever they want. To each there own I guess.

If the buyer sent payment why did the seller refund him?

[pingbling23]

I never understood why people care if someone buys a card and then decides to sell it. It is their property and have the right to do whatever they want. To each there own I guess.

If the buyer sent payment why did the seller refund him?

the issue being brought up is when someone will say they are pcing it or giving other reasons to get it at a better price, then they turn around and make a profit on it. i dont know if anyone in this thread has done this, but i agree that is a poor practice.

[bdoody42]

the issue being brought up is when someone will say they are pcing it or giving other reasons to get it at a better price, then they turn around and make a profit on it. i dont know if anyone in this thread has done this, but i agree that is a poor practice.

If I sold a card I personally wouldn't care what the seller did after. It is the buyers property after that. If I sold someone a card and they decided to resell it because somone offered them a great deal I wouldn't be upset with them. I would be upset with myself for not getting a better deal. I understand the comparison isn't perfect but they are similar.

[ebaybae]

Several posts? hmmm what was it really 2 posts?And so now you refund my paymet? Really!? So what exactly are you or were you trying to accomplish here?

Sorry. I can't trust you anymore. This is the reason I refused to deal with you. How do I know you file a claim via paypal because you have not received the card? If you sent any message to me within a week, I would not post this thread and we could make success deal. My main eBay account scored 18,000 feedbacks, I'm not a newbie and had lot of deal with a buyer like you. Sorry for all trouble but your timely manner was too bad.

[penny1fan]

SMH .... This place is spiriling out of control by the day.I was not around this week to check message or spend much time in the net.(Seller freaks out and creates this thread) Paul see's an opportunity and takes a jab because he has a hard on for me.

Somehow I am suppose to feel terrible because I sold a card for about 2.5x of what I think it will be worth in the future ..yes it was from my PC and so what? I am using some of that money for a PMG,Rubies,Finest Gold Embossed ref so yeah? I am a pos villan for selling a PC card for more than what I paid? Wow paul since you feel this way about all of the people who buy low and sell high..how the F can you live with yourself?You have scammed tons of nieve people out of their cards just to make a few bucks yeah?

Log on this morning and see that the cards are done and I send payment,then notice this thread about me!?!?

Seller now refunds payment because he/she can't trust me???

Ok so yeah I got thrown under the bus for nothing but being away from the boards for 5 days....ohh and selling a pc card for more than what I paid for it.

[IronMonkey415]

I want to see pictures of that boat again.

[nissandriver77]

SMH .... This place is spiriling out of control by the day.I was not around this week to check message or spend much time in the net.(Seller freaks out and creates this thread) Paul see's an opportunity and takes a jab because he has a hard on for me.

Somehow I am suppose to feel terrible because I sold a card for about 2.5x of what I think it will be worth in the future ..yes it was from my PC and so what? I am using some of that money for a PMG,Rubies,Finest Gold Embossed ref so yeah? I am a pos villan for selling a PC card for more than what I paid? Wow paul since you feel this way about all of the people who buy low and sell high..how the F can you live with yourself?You have scammed tons of nieve people out of their cards just to make a few bucks yeah?

Log on this morning and see that the cards are done and I send payment,then notice this thread about me!?!?

Seller now refunds payment because he/she can't trust me???

Ok so yeah I got thrown under the bus for nothing but being away from the boards for 5 days....ohh and selling a pc card for more than what I paid for it.

Don't worry about them dude the OP obviously jumped the gun and now wants to still twist it that your wrong after looking like a fool , and it seems these guy's sleep on their computer's because they obviously have no lives and it is a shock to their system if you actually participate in something more than cards in this world . LOL

And as one person mentioned Dumbass Boat , I would take that anyday than sleeping on the internet scouring Newly listed cards and BIN's 22 hrs of the day to make pennies to sit there further and scour again for another deal and the funny thing they think that chump change is big $$$$ maybe to kids it is lolololololol.

Enjoy the fresh Air and nature as that's what life is about not sitting there obsessing over cardboard looking to make the next score .

[SportsItUpCards]

Don't worry about them dude the OP obviously jumped the gun and now wants to still twist it that your wrong after looking like a fool , and it seems these guy's sleep on their computer's because they obviously have no lives and it is a shock to their system if you actually participate in something more than cards in this world . LOL

And as one person mentioned Dumbass Boat , I would take that anyday than sleeping on the internet scouring Newly listed cards and BIN's 22 hrs of the day to make pennies to sit there further and scour again for another deal and the funny thing they think that chump change is big $$$$ maybe to kids it is lolololololol.

Enjoy the fresh Air and nature as that's what life is about not sitting there obsessing over cardboard looking to make the next score .

LOL...... :D

I agree get some fresh air and enjoy that BEAUTIFUL boat! One day I will get my hands on something like that and enjoy the great waters. Worry not about this thread, or any other attacks against you. They don't matter. Enjoy your hobbieS, and you're good to go!

[nissandriver77]

LOL...... :D

I agree get some fresh air and enjoy that BEAUTIFUL boat! One day I will get my hands on something like that and enjoy the great waters. Worry not about this thread, or any other attacks against you. They don't matter. Enjoy your hobbieS, and you're good to go!

Couldn't of said it better myself mate :)!

[nissandriver77]

By the way Penny what boat do you have ?

Are you fresh water fishing or Salt water?

I have to get out this season I bought my boat 5 years ago brand new and due to family business's only put 56Hrs on it .

I have a Haines Hunter signature 540f 19ft Half Cab 130 Hp mercury Blue Motor .

Anyway man enjoy it that's what life is about .

[nissandriver77]

Says the guy who lowballed and screwed over some chump for the silhouettes prime so he could flip it :D :devil:

Is that not your caper ?

I mean is it cool for you and your buds to do it but no one else :rolleyes:

Keep looking for low graded cards to bust out and rip some chump off with it , i mean you need it since it's your only means of income .:)!

[ClipsSkins916]

Hey OP I'd be interested in one of the Penny's along w/ AI, KD, KB24, LBJ, MJ, Stockton, Magic, Bird, CP3. I'd like to get these to get them signed. Please PM me when you get the chance.

[JOHNJOHNNY]

You profited off of a card you got a good deal on because you were a Penny collector ... nice job bro! :)! You are a TRUE collector Aaron, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!!!

I'm sorry

When did it become a crime to sell a card?

So you are only a true collector if you keep every single card you ever get??

I just sold my entire collection a couple months back, bought a fence for the back yard, paid some bills and took the family on vacation.


I guess i am not a real collector:confused::(

[leeex1]

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/518813-odd-relic-card-mail-today-2.html

[pingbling23]

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/518813-odd-relic-card-mail-today-2.html

giving somebody a story or trying to gain sympathy to get a card and flipping it compared to going on ebay, getting a steal, and flipping it are 2 very different things. just saying this if you were posting that link to try to say what paul did in that case was wrong.

[penny1fan]

Pingbling23 - I am not sure if you are insisting that I made someone feel sorry for me when dealing for tht Penny prime (clearly not the case) The very first week that Preferred came out I watched the card get pulled in a case break and got in touch with the rightful owner and mentioned that I was a Penny collector and am very interested in the card.He said make an offer and I did of $300 not knowing that these things would demand such a high premium especially the Penny being /10 I thought it was a good buy price for my PC but not a steal.Figured he would counter offer but he was more than happy with my offer and sold it to me for the $300.Did I mention I collected Penny? Yes but did I insist he had to sell the card to me and only me? Not at all

The main reason I sold the card is because the timing was right,I am slowing down on all this newer stuff that is being flooded out and figured the more and more products that release these silo primes will drop in price quite a bit.I did what most non wealthy collectors would probably do here...Would I sell my 90's Rubies or PMG's NO!!!!! But a 2012-13 card in a suns uni? For 2250? Yes I just had to...It was not an easy thing to do because I hate parting with something that I will never afford to replace.

[UltimateDeron]

Pingbling23 - I am not sure if you are insisting that I made someone feel sorry for me when dealing for tht Penny prime (clearly not the case) The very first week that Preferred came out I watched the card get pulled in a case break and got in touch with the rightful owner and mentioned that I was a Penny collector and am very interested in the card.He said make an offer and I did of $300 not knowing that these things would demand such a high premium especially the Penny being /10 I thought it was a good buy price for my PC but not a steal.Figured he would counter offer but he was more than happy with my offer and sold it to me for the $300.Did I mention I collected Penny? Yes but did I insist he had to sell the card to me and only me? Not at all

The main reason I sold the card is because the timing was right,I am slowing down on all this newer stuff that is being flooded out and figured the more and more products that release these silo primes will drop in price quite a bit.I did what most non wealthy collectors would probably do here...Would I sell my 90's Rubies or PMG's NO!!!!! But a 2012-13 card in a suns uni? For 2250? Yes I just had to...It was not an easy thing to do because I hate parting with something that I will never afford to replace.

You got that Penny Silhouette Prime for $300!? :eek:

[penny1fan]

You got that Penny Silhouette Prime for $300!? :eek:

Yep the very first week of release it was pulled in a group break.I knew it was a good buy price but not a slam dunk price.The seller had $65 invested into his team slot and like me not knowing thesethings would demand such a premium out the gate he was happy to take my $300.

[penny1fan]

Thanks Nissan and Gio! I agree with you guys 100 :).

It is a Pelican Bass Raider 10E with a minn kota trolling motor and ores etc.I got it complete with all the bells and whistles battery,ores,trailer to haul it to the lake/rivers.

I typically fish small lakes and the river acrossed from where my parenta live.Mainly fish for bass and pike!

I promise guys! I am still a collector!!!! LOL

[penny1fan]

Not to mention guys I did own that prime silo for what 2 months? Selling it was not my intention.... I really enjoy that card but as I mentioned it was just the right time to let it go.A year from now I probably would be hard pressed to draw 1K for it if i kept it in my collection.The 90's Penny stuff is what truely has my collecting heart (all them cards I could never find or afford as a kid)

[AbraCalabro]

OUCH. Wow, you guys are brutal. What does the sale of that Panini card have to do with this situation? This all seems to be one big misunderstanding, nothing more. I fail to see the big deal here.

[paul06901]

Some of you have it twisted, obviously.



Aaron here saw the Penny Prime 01/10 get pulled.


Sent the guy an OBVIOUS LOWBALL offer!

I mean c'mon, $300 for that card? I think at that time one had sold $1500/2000+ already!


Then he mentions he is a Penny "collector" so that he can hopefully acquire cheaper due to the good nature of someone helping out a "collector"

Not even a few weeks later the card is sold for MASSIVE profit and Aaron buys a BOAT!




Now, to all you TRUE collectors out there. If someone sells you a card for your PC after you go telling them you are a true collector, and you give them a GREAT deal, and they pop it on the market immediately shopping for offers and then flip for a HUGE profit ... do you see something wrong with that?


I understand the card is Aarons property to do what he wants with it, but he BOASTS he is such a HUGE Penny collector! And had no issues flipping that sucker!




Aaron, you are a huge scumbag my friend. You try to call me out and make accusations on a card I bought at a $20 BIN randomly and flipped? LMAO! YOU-ARE-SUCH-A-FOOL!









Point and case: Aaron used his "ULTIMATE PENNY COLLECTOR" status to get this guy to sell him the card .... and he didn't pay fair market value, he LOWBALLED!



THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS!


And now continues to call out others?!



I never said I'm a collector. I wouldn't go around lowballing people saying "OH PLEASEEEEE SELL THIS TO ME! I'M THE BIGGEST "-------" COLLECTOR AROUND! PLEASE TAKE MY LOWBALL OFFER! And then go flip the card not even a few weeks later after it's supposedly a "PC" card!


Aaron, you are a snake in sheeps clothing.

An ultimate hypocrite and a scumbag.




Hope you enjoy that boat you own simply by deceitful tactics!


Hopefully nobody cuts you a deal anymore on a Penny card, because it's obvious that you'd flip it instantly!

[leeex1]

I just thought it was odd a known flipper was calling out another member for flipping. It seemed to be a bit personal with some history or something.

Supposedly this paul guy lowballs all the time or something.. and supposedly pennyfan made a story about how its PC to get it for cheap.. both are wrong if so, I guess, but as long as they aren't stealing and shilling, who cares? They both get good deals and make money off of cards. Both guys make offers that satisfy the sellers.. so why is it anyone else's business?

I don't know, wasn't trying to take sides or anything, just thought it was weird a flipper was calling out another member for flipping. Yall should be friends :). Happy Friday :D

[tennelson55]

Paul, i usually like reading your posts but calm down. the guy in the break made what 4x his money by selling it? then the next owner flipped it for x4 right? or 5? does it matter? who gives a crap besides the person who's currently selling the card. i mean if i buy a 1/1 of jimmer for 200, but then i turn around and sell it a month later for 60, do you bash the person selling it?
also when the market is hot with prime silos you'd be crazy not to flip anything. he will be able to buy the card for less in only a matter of time. he just has to wait.

[paul06901]

I just thought it was odd a known flipper was calling out another member for flipping. It seemed to be a bit personal with some history or something.

Supposedly this paul guy lowballs all the time or something.. and supposedly pennyfan made a story about how its PC to get it for cheap.. both are wrong if so, I guess, but as long as they aren't stealing and shilling, who cares? They both get good deals and make money off of cards. Both guys make offers that satisfy the sellers.. so why is it anyone else's business?

I don't know, wasn't trying to take sides or anything, just thought it was weird a flipper was calling out another member for flipping. Yall should be friends :). Happy Friday :D

I agree with you saying "who cares!" ... I don't really care! haha


It's just that Aaron, in the past, had continually called me out for "lowballing" people .... and his $300 offer on a $2500 card is the ultimate hypocritical move. The clearcut case of the pot calling the kettle black.


In most cases, I don't even make any offers on cards I buy. Of course sometimes I lowball, but everyone does now and again. Pricing is subjective.

However, If that Penny was on eBay for a $3000 BIN, there's now way I would offer $300 lol.


Am I jealous of him for the flip? NOPE! Many people make HUGE flips all the time, I commend them for their efforts. However, when an insanely low price is given to someone as a "favor" after they give a disgustingly lowball offer because they are a "collector" and then the item is quickly sold for massive profit ... I don't think that's a good practice for a "true collector" ... no?

I could understand if a player collector owned a bunch of nice rare cards in a huge PC and medical bills came up and they had to sell off some of the nicer cards ... that would still make them a true collector.





I do agree though, focus should be on the people out there who are selling cards with fake autos and patches, shilling their auctions and blatantly ripping people off. This whole forum needs to focus on that, and if they really care about the hobby, will try to make it a point to let these guys know we're after them.

[ManInTheMirror]

I agree with you saying "who cares!" ... I don't really care! haha
Yes you do.

[thenwhatjk]

Such unhappiness!

[nissandriver77]

Some of you have it twisted, obviously.



Aaron here saw the Penny Prime 01/10 get pulled.


Sent the guy an OBVIOUS LOWBALL offer!

I mean c'mon, $300 for that card? I think at that time one had sold $1500/2000+ already!


Then he mentions he is a Penny "collector" so that he can hopefully acquire cheaper due to the good nature of someone helping out a "collector"

Not even a few weeks later the card is sold for MASSIVE profit and Aaron buys a BOAT!




Now, to all you TRUE collectors out there. If someone sells you a card for your PC after you go telling them you are a true collector, and you give them a GREAT deal, and they pop it on the market immediately shopping for offers and then flip for a HUGE profit ... do you see something wrong with that?


I understand the card is Aarons property to do what he wants with it, but he BOASTS he is such a HUGE Penny collector! And had no issues flipping that sucker!




Aaron, you are a huge scumbag my friend. You try to call me out and make accusations on a card I bought at a $20 BIN randomly and flipped? LMAO! YOU-ARE-SUCH-A-FOOL!









Point and case: Aaron used his "ULTIMATE PENNY COLLECTOR" status to get this guy to sell him the card .... and he didn't pay fair market value, he LOWBALLED!



THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS!


And now continues to call out others?!



I never said I'm a collector. I wouldn't go around lowballing people saying "OH PLEASEEEEE SELL THIS TO ME! I'M THE BIGGEST "-------" COLLECTOR AROUND! PLEASE TAKE MY LOWBALL OFFER! And then go flip the card not even a few weeks later after it's supposedly a "PC" card!


Aaron, you are a snake in sheeps clothing.

An ultimate hypocrite and a scumbag.




Hope you enjoy that boat you own simply by deceitful tactics!


Hopefully nobody cuts you a deal anymore on a Penny card, because it's obvious that you'd flip it instantly!

How do you know he did that or you making it up as you go?

[scackles]

isnt the seller somewhat responsible for this? I have a hard time pointing the finger at a guy who made an offer and got it accepted.

bottom line the only one anyone on here really collects is benjis.. get them when you can

[paul06901]

How do you know he did that or you making it up as you go?



I watched the card get pulled in a case break and got in touch with the rightful owner and mentioned that I was a Penny collector and am very interested in the card.He said make an offer and I did of $300.



^^^^^^^^^^

[GoldenBoy23]

I dont understand the hate here. A guy pulled the prime in a case break, then penny offered $300. Guy accepted. Paul does not even have a business here. And just mad at penny becoz he flipped the prime so hard??? Am i right? Lol

[paul06901]

I dont understand the hate here. A guy pulled the prime in a case break, then penny offered $300. Guy accepted. Paul does not even have a business here. And just mad at penny becoz he flipped the prime so hard??? Am i right? Lol

I don't care that he fliipped it.


He lowballed the guy hardcore ... $300 for a $2500 card?! And then had to use the "I'm a Penny Collector" card in order to score a deal, the guy probably wanted to help out his PC. Then a few weeks later he flips it?


My problem is the hypocrisy. Aaron goes on and on about how I "lowball" and somehow force people to sell me cards cheap. Yet he makes this huge flip (as a "collector") and it's somehow OK that he only offered $300 knowing the car was worth so much more? THAT'S my qualm ...

[GC1980]

This site is awesome. So much drama its like watching a soap opera!

I fail to see the issue with flipping a card like that. If the card was already sold on ebay for $1500 and the seller was willing to take $300 then that's on the seller. I know if I am selling something I do my due diligence to find prior sales and get the best price. If its the big hit form the hot new product, I am waiting for some similar cards to hit the market and see what fair market value is.

Maybe I'm just cold blooded but if I pulled that card I could care less if some Penny collector or some random dealer wanted it. I am going to get a fair price for it, bottom line. "I'm a Penny collector, give me a good deal"...sorry buddy, kick rocks and pay or no card ;)

Looks like someone sold something without knowing what they were selling and a Penny collector saw a great chance to make some major money when the market determined the price for it. Who is anyone to say the OWNER can't sell a PC card? I PC Jordan, if I pulled a PMG last year from Retro and could make a huge profit to help with big life expenses I would in a heartbeat. "When the dough gets low the Jewels go!" hahaha.
Doesn't make you any less of a collector, just smart. I for one think that silo is meh if you are a Penny collector. The playing days stuff is where its at. I applaud the flip. Shrewd move.

[paul06901]

It's a personal vendetta, I have no problems with Aaron flipping a card.

But calling me out for "lowballing" and then offering $300 on a card he knew was worth $2000+ and then selling it for $2250 ... that's PURE hypocrisy.

That's all I'm making a point at.

Yes, I flip cards ... and Aaron flipped this ... I don't care that he flipped it, I care that he flipped it off a lowball offer that he he was so adamantly accusing me of doing and saying it was HORRIBLE and SCUMMY!


To clarify.

[Jef]

i have always wondered why anyone is really that concerned about lowballing. it is almost talked about in the same manner as full fledged scamming or theft, and it is a mystery to me.

is it really a "waste" of your time to reject a lowball offer? if so, why? are you getting 4,000 clear lowball offers a day?

or is it because you feel insulted - like someone is saying your cards arent valuable or desireable?

if you decide to sell, the responsbility to be a knowledgeable seller is your own. if you are a knowledgeable seller, lowballing shouldnt matter to you - you will sell only for a price you are comfortable with.

if the original seller was comfortable with selling the Penny for $300, then good! everyone wins. if he sold it without realizing its full worth, that's his own fault.

everytime you get a good price on ebay or a lower than expected price on here, are you now supposed to send the last 300 completed auction numbers to the seller to prove that the price they were willing to give it to you for is fair?

lowballing is, if anything, a huge waste of the time and effort by the one offering the money. like everyone, i get low offers on ebay when i do sell, but why are people so insulted? decline it and wait until you get one you like.

i dont think i have ever lowballed anyone on this site ever, and if i have it has been by accident, but people just need to lighten up on the topic i believe.

[ManInTheMirror]

It's a personal vendetta, I have no problems with Aaron flipping a card.

But calling me out for "lowballing" and then offering $300 on a card he knew was worth $2000+ and then selling it for $2250 ... that's PURE hypocrisy.

That's all I'm making a point at.

Yes, I flip cards ... and Aaron flipped this ... I don't care that he flipped it, I care that he flipped it off a lowball offer that he he was so adamantly accusing me of doing and saying it was HORRIBLE and SCUMMY!


To clarify.
You two need to get a room.

Fight it out or hug and kiss it out.

srsly

[paul06901]

i have always wondered why anyone is really that concerned about lowballing. it is almost talked about in the same manner as full fledged scamming or theft, and it is a mystery to me.

is it really a "waste" of your time to reject a lowball offer? if so, why? are you getting 4,000 clear lowball offers a day?

or is it because you feel insulted - like someone is saying your cards arent valuable or desireable?

if you decide to sell, the responsbility to be a knowledgeable seller is your own. if you are a knowledgeable seller, lowballing shouldnt matter to you - you will sell only for a price you are comfortable with.

if the original seller was comfortable with selling the Penny for $300, then good! everyone wins. if he sold it without realizing its full worth, that's his own fault.

everytime you get a good price on ebay or a lower than expected price on here, are you now supposed to send the last 300 completed auction numbers to the seller to prove that the price they were willing to give it to you for is fair?

lowballing is, if anything, a huge waste of the time and effort by the one offering the money. like everyone, i get low offers on ebay when i do sell, but why are people so insulted? decline it and wait until you get one you like.

i dont think i have ever lowballed anyone on this site ever, and if i have it has been by accident, but people just need to lighten up on the topic i believe.


I agree. You never know, if you pass up on making a lowball offer, and the guy after you makes the same offer and it gets taken ... why not you?

I get lowball offers all the time on my items, I don't take offense, I simply counter. We're not all millionaires here, not even close. So just as a seller wants to sell their items for the most, buyers want to pay the least. Simple economics.

[pham504]

Looking at your posts and itrader counts maybe you need to step away from the forum altogether.

Lol, true. It's impressive though I guess

[penny1fan]

That Penny prime /10 was the first to surface at the time (first case break I actually watched) There were a few legends that had sold at the time BIN's for example,A David Robinson was sold for $149.99 BIN etc.I don't think my offer of $300 was insulting (was expecting a counter of $400/$500) Seller was more than happy to let it go for my standing offer of $300...Probably because he did not even have $70 into it and had a few other hits within the break as well.

Once again Paul you wanna keep spinning this as if I purchased that card with the intentions of flipping all along which is def not the case!Another Penny prime did not even hit Ebay until weeks after I had mine so your logic is debunked sir.The first one I seen actually sell was over $1500 and floored me.Then i witnessed another sell for nearly 2K and another is or was on there fr a BIN $3K.I owned mine well before these hit the bay.The Penny collector who paid me $2250 is the better collector than me simply because he seems to have infinite coin $$$ I am sorry if my sale offends you Paul being that I made such a nice return on the card without having to spam it here on the boards or withold information about the card itself to get over on someone for their $$$.See man people can actually be honest and make good sales! :)