Inception Prices Climbing

[85GoCards]

So with my case still on the way, I'm stuck debating whether I will bust it or flip it. I got one of the lower prices I've seen mentioned, and I bought it with the intention of flipping it. With how loaded this stuff is though, it's really making me think.

Realistically, if you had a case coming and could easily make $300-$400 mailing it out the day after you get it in, would you, or would you bust it?

[oldgoldy97]

I would not bust it! I would sell it and use the proceeds to buy the cards I wanted (Buxton!) and put help pay off some debts.

[TASS]

My LSC has them at $115.00 Box, I pay a little less :)!, but they are looking to bring more in and their rebuy price is already at $125.00 Box!

[oldgoldy97]

My LSC has them at $115.00 Box, I pay a little less :)!, but they are looking to bring more in and their rebuy price is already at $125.00 Box!

Good to know. I needed some leverage when going to my other LCS on Wednesday.

[Srt42004n]

If you look around theres some places that are closed Sat/Sun and they still have it at presale prices...unlike someother places that simply pulled stock down until release date in inflate the price to $1100 a case...

[85GoCards]

I got my case at less than $80/box.

[centereacan06]

I got my case at less than $80/box.

That's an absolute steal.

[85GoCards]

That's an absolute steal.

I agree, but because it was such a steal it makes it hard to justify breaking it when there is a very easy profit for doing nothing. On the other hand because I got it so cheap, there is also a high likelihood of at least breaking even if I bust it. Quite a pickle. It's just nice to be in a win-win situation for a change lol

[xbignick]

As a guy who loves bowman draft, should I buy a box of this? Always seems like everything besides chrome doesn't hold value well.

[Noah0298]

As a guy who loves bowman draft, should I buy a box of this? Always seems like everything besides chrome doesn't hold value well.

I can't see it holding value for long, but if you flip some of the cards quick you should be fine.

[Yaboi07]

I think it will hold a decent value since print runs were relatively low

[centereacan06]

I agree, but because it was such a steal it makes it hard to justify breaking it when there is a very easy profit for doing nothing. On the other hand because I got it so cheap, there is also a high likelihood of at least breaking even if I bust it. Quite a pickle. It's just nice to be in a win-win situation for a change lol

Personally, I'd never be able to sell a sealed box/case, but in this case (no pun intended), you can sell it when prices get really high and buy a case of another product + a single card or two.

[Brandon2598]

That is a toughy. Ive seen a puig come out of 1 case on average. Still some players will bring you your $ back. But if you look forward to something coming out soon, get it.

[phil]

That is a toughy. Ive seen a puig come out of 1 case on average. Still some players will bring you your $ back. But if you look forward to something coming out soon, get it.



Puigs are probably something like 1 in 5 cases on average. Base is SSP.

[711 Cards]

There's a lot of $10 cards in this. I'd flip the case without thinking twice. Prices will drop hard in 2 weeks.

[dhendrix1303]

My case wasn't great but at $750 presell price , I couldn't complain

[kordell1]

I passed up a couple boxes online at $100 each because I planned on supporting the LCS. Went there today and they said they were sold out in less than 2 hours of every box they got in yesterday. Ended up paying $120 each online today. I would not pay any more than that though. If they were $125, I would have passed.

[phil]

There's a lot of $10 cards in this. I'd flip the case without thinking twice. Prices will drop hard in 2 weeks.


If someone wants to take their profit and flip a case I wouldn't talk them out of it, but prices are absolutely not going to "drop hard" any time soon. That's just oblivious to what is going on with demand vs. supply right now.

[blackbears86]

There's a lot of $10 cards in this. I'd flip the case without thinking twice. Prices will drop hard in 2 weeks.

+++++++1

Sell this and make some money. Put it towards chrome or draft. You cannot go wrong.

[jr24ai3]

Good to know. I needed some leverage when going to my other LCS on Wednesday.

Just curious, how does this give you leverage? If the shop has to pay $125 just to restock their shelves, don't you think that will make them price their product higher?

[blackbears86]

if puig was a live auto I'd bust and take your chances, but the fact he is a redemption really puts this product in the rear view mirror when topps releases some new product with his auto actually included.

I really like the looks of this product, but I see it being a distant memory come October.

[phil]

if puig was a live auto I'd bust and take your chances, but the fact he is a redemption really puts this product in the rear view mirror when topps releases some new product with his auto actually included.

I really like the looks of this product, but I see it being a distant memory come October.


again, this comment is totally oblivious to what is going on with demand vs. supply. It's not just Puig that is driving the demand for this. It will be dried up and $150+/box by October. 24k boxes is nothing for a comprehensive prospect product like this that everybody wants.

[BOOMER7]

I got my case at less than $80/box.

I was saying this in the other thread, a month ago this product was going to be a steal when price was under $80 box $650 case. 5 autos for $80 was just to obvious with a great checklist
even before Puig mania.
I bought a ton and wlill be selling them off in a few weeks at what should be close to $1200 per.

[711 Cards]

If someone wants to take their profit and flip a case I wouldn't talk them out of it, but prices are absolutely not going to "drop hard" any time soon. That's just oblivious to what is going on with demand vs. supply right now.

Oblivious? Look on ebay dude tons of cards selling under or at $10. To get any kind of ROI on a case break you need to net $20 a card after fees. Good luck getting that.

[phil]

Oblivious? Look on ebay dude tons of cards selling under or at $10. To get any kind of ROI on a case break you need to net $20 a card after fees. Good luck getting that.


As I said I'm not about to talk anyone out of flipping a case. I wouldn't open any at current price either.

I was responding to your comment about it dropping in 2 weeks. The box price is not going down - demand will be greater than supply regardless of ROI. The wax market is ultimately driven by hype and lottery ticket mentality, not ROI. What's the avg. ROI for 2009 BDPP @ $225/box?

[Ajax1723]

Oblivious? Look on ebay dude tons of cards selling under or at $10. To get any kind of ROI on a case break you need to net $20 a card after fees. Good luck getting that.

You can say the same thing about any other product. There are a ton of 10 dollar cards in every product, even the high end ones like Tribute.

The difference is, there are a lot of cards valued at 20 or more, and with Puig/Buxton/Machado/Taveras all in this, and only Buig looking SPed right now, the risk/reward for opening is worth it at pre-hupe prices, up to maybe around 100 a box.

I honestly don't think you can go wrong right now either flipping a case or opening.

[ninjacookies]

As I said I'm not about to talk anyone out of flipping a case. I wouldn't open any at current price either.

I was responding to your comment about it dropping in 2 weeks. The box price is not going down - demand will be greater than supply regardless of ROI. The wax market is ultimately driven by hype and lottery ticket mentality, not ROI. What's the avg. ROI for 2009 BDPP @ $225/box?

Who's saying demand will sustain?

Plenty of products with initial hype get pushed down in price either immediately or soon after release due to 'low' secondary market values of singles. Heck, you don't have to look any further than Bowman just a few weeks ago. Not saying that's necessarily the case here, but if secondary prices for hits 'other' than Puig fall, so will the wax prices.

I mean sure, the lcs's and online stores can charge whatever they want, but if people refuse to buy at those prices, then ebay will satiate their thirst. Because ebay is the 'undercutting central' of all things.

[anusinha]

The price of a product is mostly determined by the possibility of huge hits. Right now youve got Puigs only licensed auto, thats going to drive this product crazy.

[anusinha]

Who's saying demand will sustain?

Plenty of products with initial hype get pushed down in price either immediately or soon after release due to 'low' secondary market values of singles. Heck, you don't have to look any further than Bowman just a few weeks ago. Not saying that's necessarily the case here, but if secondary prices for hits 'other' than Puig fall, so will the wax prices.

I mean sure, the lcs's and online stores can charge whatever they want, but if people refuse to buy at those prices, then ebay will satiate their thirst. Because ebay is the 'undercutting central' of all things.

Take a look at 2010 Draft or 2011 Bowman Chrome, its basically Trout or Harper or bust, and those things are very expensive.

[xbignick]

Take a look at 2010 Draft or 2011 Bowman Chrome, its basically Trout or Harper or bust, and those things are very expensive.

Think you mean 2009 draft, 2010 had Harvey, Machado, etc.

[danimal875]

I am very happy with my 2 boxes of Inception, sold my Eaton /75 auto for $25, a Pederson sticker jersey auto for $31, a Tyler Austin base Auto for $25. I am selling the rest on 24 Hour .99 auctions right now including a Blue Puig which is already at $699 with 22 hours to go. I seriously think I'll get about 85% of my box price back WITHOUT the Puig. This is a good product!

[phil]

Who's saying demand will sustain?

It won't once TC, BC etc. come out. But in this case it's more about supply, which is relatively modest and will be dwindling well before then. Supply will drop before demand does.

Plenty of products with initial hype get pushed down in price either immediately or soon after release due to 'low' secondary market values of singles. Heck, you don't have to look any further than Bowman just a few weeks ago.

Bowman dropped a little after release because the print run was the 2nd largest of all time for any Bowman Product (3x Inception if you combine hobby & jumbo). That had nothing to do with the price of secondary singles dropping. again it was a supply/demand thing - more wax available than there were buyers. As soon as Puig was called up wax demand exploded and Bowman went back up higher than it was before it dropped.

Not saying that's necessarily the case here, but if secondary prices for hits 'other' than Puig fall, so will the wax prices.

as I said in the case of Inception and most other prospect products the wax market is not actually driven by prices of secondary singles or ROI. it's driven by the big hits and lottery ticket mentality.