Joelshitshow on COMC is a HUGE Richard

[msumarr54]

Make him an offer on a VERY low end card. Would be lucky to see .50 on a good day, but I don't feel like searching an offer a buck. Outright rejects it and raises the price by over a dollar. I know I'm a high roller and all but I'm not going that extra buck to that ahole...so if you have a 2008 Bowman Chrome Carlos Guillen X-Fractor....................I'm your man

[TheHeel]

I do not deal with him even if he has a card I want.

Yes, it is his card but will anyone ever buy a Carlos Guillen X-Fractor for a buck?

[Cactuspies]

he is well known to do that, but will lowball the shartz out of you for cards!

[chipmaster]

He's one of the Blowout Founding Fathers and was on this site until a lot of you turd burglars scared him away :)

"Jugghead" was his alias

[Cactuspies]

He's one of the Blowout Founding Fathers and was on this site until a lot of you turd burglars scared him away :)

"Jugghead" was his alias

4 realz chip? yikes...isn't he the guy who works or worked @ ud or something?

[calculusdork]

Make him an offer on a VERY low end card. Would be lucky to see .50 on a good day, but I don't feel like searching an offer a buck. Outright rejects it and raises the price by over a dollar. I know I'm a high roller and all but I'm not going that extra buck to that ahole...so if you have a 2008 Bowman Chrome Carlos Guillen X-Fractor....................I'm your man

Did you consider that maybe his observation of your offer was the first time he noticed that the only other COMC sale of that card was for $2.63??

I saw a $15 card the other day for $7.75 on COMC. I made an offer of $5. The seller raised the price to $10 and countered at $7. So I bought the card for $7.

[Jeramy]

Did you consider that maybe his observation of your offer was the first time he noticed that the only other COMC sale of that card was for $2.63??

I saw a $15 card the other day for $7.75 on COMC. I made an offer of $5. The seller raised the price to $10 and countered at $7. So I bought the card for $7.

Exactly. I have like 8k cards in my port, and he has >100k. Sometimes I'll get and offer and then check out what everyone else is selling it for only to notice that either I made a typo before or the value has gone way up. If I feel like I can make more, I'll reject and reprice...

[Seanathan297]

Joelshitshow is typically pretty fair, I've had more of a problem with buymore. Make reasonable offer on 3 low end cards that have sat on there for over a year, rejects said offer and doubles prices on all 3. Enjoy keeping your cards :rolleyes:

[Orangejello727]

Reject and reprice is a scum move in my opinion. Nothing like sacrificing future purchases over $1.

I rather just sell it and make the man happy to open the opportunity for future sales. Especially if all its going to cost me is a few bucks!

[Dragonman]

joelshitshow is a low-life in many ways....I never give him my business and more should follow

[otmack2o]

Joel is one of my favorite sellers on COMC. I have bought and sold many times from/to him.

[mrwalken]

Ah, the never ending debate on the ethics of the old "reject and reprice" move.

I will say this. Currently, *many* cards on the site are mis-priced (in both directions). Everything was priced based on Beckett book value. Beckett value is now irrelevant as almost nobody can see it. Slowly, we will see prices move toward the past sale number instead.

So, if you happen to see a card priced way below the past sale number, it might be a good idea to just grab it instead of trying an offer.

[msumarr54]

Did you consider that maybe his observation of your offer was the first time he noticed that the only other COMC sale of that card was for $2.63??

I saw a $15 card the other day for $7.75 on COMC. I made an offer of $5. The seller raised the price to $10 and countered at $7. So I bought the card for $7.

WELL..........SURE, I gave it thought.........but then I realized this is a .50 card, not a mislabeled $15 gem. This card sucks....crap I just bought a blue refractor from good ol' WilsonValdez for less than a 1/3 of his absurd price.

Price stuff however you want. Thats fine by me. But don't see that I'm interested with a FAIR offer, reject it, and bump the price up another 1.25.

That's a real richard move right there.......

[calculusdork]

So, if you happen to see a card priced way below the past sale number, it might be a good idea to just grab it instead of trying an offer.

Truth.


WELL..........SURE, I gave it thought.........but then I realized this is a .50 card, not a mislabeled $15 gem. This card sucks....crap I just bought a blue refractor from good ol' WilsonValdez for less than a 1/3 of his absurd price.

Price stuff however you want. Thats fine by me. But don't see that I'm interested with a FAIR offer, reject it, and bump the price up another 1.25.

That's a real richard move right there.......

So you think your offer was fair even though the only other one sold for $2.63? Surely you see where I'm coming from.

[msumarr54]

Truth.




So you think your offer was fair even though the only other one sold for $2.63? Surely you see where I'm coming from.

I AM SERIOUS............and don't call me shirley...................

In all seriousness, I have no idea where your getting that price from. A gold /50 sold on eBay for 2.50 dlvd...I just bought a gold on COMC from 37Jetson (thank ya sir) for 2.45. I'm not going to pay OVER that for an Xfractor /250.

And with that.....I'm done. 2.75 is a trival matter. BUT I AM A MAN OF PRINCIPAL. I think he's a Richard. You can agree or disagree. Thats your opinion. I'm not trying to convince anyone, just throwing out my persona anecdote................

[colls69]

I don't buy from him. He doesn't deserve my money.

[calculusdork]

Alright, now I'm really curious -- why all the hate for this guy? I've seen at least 3 folks insinuate that he is a "low-life" (one guy just came right out and said it) -- why? I've never done business with him before.

[Cactuspies]

Alright, now I'm really curious -- why all the hate for this guy? I've seen at least 3 folks insinuate that he is a "low-life" (one guy just came right out and said it) -- why? I've never done business with him before.

my experience, and some others who have posted (or edited LOL)
is that he will make a 50% offer on your cards and you will either accept/decline/or counter. If you counter he will decline or recounter at the same original offer. If you try to do a 50% offer on his cards, he will counter or decline all while upping the price to about double the asking so you have to get it at "his 1/2 price"

[37Jetson]

Since I did not earn a callout thread from doubling my price I would likely to say thank you for the props. This card is going to a great person and great cause so I am happy to help as much as I can price wise.

Since I got back into COMC selling three weeks ago I have let all offers be submitted. I do not have a set percentage that I will accept, but the clowns that offer 50% of my Griffey Autograph (now sold) and other hot rookies simply get rejected after they send me the same offer twice.

On the topic of Joelshitshow he has done the same bush league pricing raise thing to me. Not the end of the world in my book, but it does annoy me to a mini session with my therapist.

..I just bought a gold on COMC from 37Jetson (thank ya sir) for 2.45. I'm not going to pay OVER that for an Xfractor /250.


Imac

[XL5]

I've bought from him before. I just can't get over the reading the name as Joel Sh!t Show though.

[calculusdork]

my experience, and some others who have posted (or edited LOL)
is that he will make a 50% offer on your cards and you will either accept/decline/or counter. If you counter he will decline or recounter at the same original offer. If you try to do a 50% offer on his cards, he will counter or decline all while upping the price to about double the asking so you have to get it at "his 1/2 price"

Maybe I'm just too laid back, but it would take a heckuva lot more than that for me to refer to someone as dangly parts.

[thebrokepoet]

Correct me if I'm mistaken ... but he is always the lowest price card available ... and to some people half off is not a reasonable offer ... especially if that half off is the most you can ask . He has taken offers from me before . Does often actually . And especially if he is not the lowest card . Example he had a card for $3 . Another seller had it at $2 . I offered JoelsHitShow $1.5 and he took it . But if a card was marked $1 and you offered 50 cents ... the next lowest card was $2.5 ... I wouldn't take your 50 either . Especially with the price rates now on the site . Another example he had a $5 booked for $5 refractor for my PC I needed . I offered him $2.5 .. Took it . Soundslike the typical ... I can't actually pay for that card ... its for my PC routine

[Jeramy]

but if a card was marked $1 and you offered 50 cents ... the next lowest card was $2.5 ... I wouldn't take your 50 either . routine

I only reprice if I see I'm leaving money on the table compared to other sellers. If i have a card I'm selling and i see someone has it underpriced, I've actually made lowball offers in the hopes that the seller raises their price.

[calculusdork]

Correct me if I'm mistaken ... but he is always the lowest price card available ... and to some people half off is not a reasonable offer ... especially if that half off is the most you can ask . He has taken offers from me before . Does often actually . And especially if he is not the lowest card . Example he had a card for $3 . Another seller had it at $2 . I offered JoelsHitShow $1.5 and he took it . But if a card was marked $1 and you offered 50 cents ... the next lowest card was $2.5 ... I wouldn't take your 50 either . Especially with the price rates now on the site . Another example he had a $5 booked for $5 refractor for my PC I needed . I offered him $2.5 .. Took it . Soundslike the typical ... I can't actually pay for that card ... its for my PC routine

^^^ This guy gets it.

Sorry OP, the original post just reeks of entitlement.


I only reprice if I see I'm leaving money on the table compared to other sellers. If i have a card I'm selling and i see someone has it underpriced, I've actually made lowball offers in the hopes that the seller raises their price.

Haha ... wow, that is brilliant.

[colls69]

Catcuspies,

You hit the nail on the Richard Head with your post. Lol!! I had to take a few words out of my original post.

[msumarr54]

^^^ This guy gets it.

Sorry OP, the original post just reeks of entitlement.




Haha ... wow, that is brilliant.

Yup, I'm just an entitled ahole..............got me pegged :)!

[calculusdork]

Yup, I'm just an entitled ahole..............got me pegged :)!

That's not what I said at all. Not at all.

I said your OP comes across as entitled.

[jjd1979]

The amazing thing is that he is usually the cheapest on a given card.

In regards to a cheap refractor, if it's the only one on the site I will price it $2.75. Prices have to be slightly higher given submission fees and monthly storage fees. Yes, there is room to negotiate. By pricing it up, we are hoping someone just buys the card. Plus, with Amazon we are possibly loosing 20% and then another 20% when cashing out. So, I most cheaper cards I will most likely will accept or counter all cards at 20% off. Pretending they sold on Amazon.

[dogzman]

I just wanted to say thanks for this tread....it is hilarious! LMAO

[cking]

If 3 dollars ever becomes this important in my life I will go in the backyard and put a bullet in my head because life would no longer be worth living.......ughhhhhhhhh.

[TheHeel]

If 3 dollars ever becomes this important in my life I will go in the backyard and put a bullet in my head because life would no longer be worth living.......ughhhhhhhhh.

Glad your back from your vacation. :)

[VeedonFleece]

I made someone a $6 offer on a card he was asking $8 for. He raised the price on site to $14 and countered at $9.50. At least he countered - on the three occasions I've made offers to Joel SS, he's simply declined and raised the price of the card. Twice I was able to buy at a price I wanted off someone else.

Now, they're the seller's cards and they can ask what they like. I just think the raise-and-counter-above-initial-asking-price move is low.

[Boo]

I made someone a $6 offer on a card he was asking $8 for. He raised the price on site to $14 and countered at $9.50. At least he countered - on the three occasions I've made offers to Joel SS, he's simply declined and raised the price of the card. Twice I was able to buy at a price I wanted off someone else.

Now, they're the seller's cards and they can ask what they like. I just think the raise-and-counter-above-initial-asking-price move is low.

It is no different than someone doing that on ebay. They have a BIN listed for lowest on ebay, someone offers lower, they do some research and adjust their price more toward market price. If you want the card, buy it. If you don't, move on. If someone offers me on COMC, I'll usually check ebay to see the last sale and go from there...sometimes I have to raise my price to closer to ebay value (and I'm almost always lowest on COMC).

[msumarr54]

If 3 dollars ever becomes this important in my life I will go in the backyard and put a bullet in my head because life would no longer be worth living.......ughhhhhhhhh.

3 dollars IS very important to me. That's 3 items from the dollar menu at McDonalds. Thats ALMOST 3/4 of a gallon of gas here in MI. That's a pack of hobby Opening Day. That's 3 more times I get to slip those George Washingtons into Destiny's thong. That's a Joey Harrington Patch Auto 1/1. That 3 dollars is a refreshing double deuce of Colt 45 awaiting me at my local Citgo. That $3 is for every Goonie who has ever been wronged.

NO REGRETS, THAT'S MY MOTTO........that and everybody wang chung tonight

[calculusdork]

3 dollars IS very important to me. That's 3 items from the dollar menu at McDonalds. Thats ALMOST 3/4 of a gallon of gas here in MI. That's a pack of hobby Opening Day. That's 3 more times I get to slip those George Washingtons into Destiny's thong. That's a Joey Harrington Patch Auto 1/1. That 3 dollars is a refreshing double deuce of Colt 45 awaiting me at my local Citgo. That $3 is for every Goonie who has ever been wronged.

NO REGRETS, THAT'S MY MOTTO........that and everybody wang chung tonight

LOL ... alright, that was good. Joey Harrington Patch Auto 1/1, hahaha.

[thebrokepoet]

3 dollars IS very important to me. That's 3 items from the dollar menu at McDonalds. Thats ALMOST 3/4 of a gallon of gas here in MI. That's a pack of hobby Opening Day. That's 3 more times I get to slip those George Washingtons into Destiny's thong. That's a Joey Harrington Patch Auto 1/1. That 3 dollars is a refreshing double deuce of Colt 45 awaiting me at my local Citgo. That $3 is for every Goonie who has ever been wronged.

NO REGRETS, THAT'S MY MOTTO........that and everybody wang chung tonight

Better attitude . LoL . Pay that man a dollar for a refractor . The pack costs 3 and you want or need the card . Don't make call out threads of one of the biggest seller on the sites ... who is always the the lowest priced and is very reasonable . Makes you seem petty . In my opinion . Beyond that I don't know you and you seem funny . Sooooooo good day good sirr

[msumarr54]

Better attitude . LoL . Pay that man a dollar for a refractor . The pack costs 3 and you want or need the card . Don't make call out threads of one of the biggest seller on the sites ... who is always the the lowest priced and is very reasonable . Makes you seem petty . In my opinion . Beyond that I don't know you and you seem funny . Sooooooo good day good sirr

Better attitude??? I'm not paying the man. I'm sticking to my guns. Mark my words.....an Xfractor will come up for cheap in a couple months, I'm going to pick that bad boy up on the cheap and have one HELLUVA mail day and stick it to all you negative nancys.

[thebrokepoet]

I bet you dont . And of that dollar JHShow won't see 25 cents of it for shipping . Plus what ever her has into it . You really think you are his get it for less then a dollar shipped ... good luck . Starting to smell like Vinegar and Water in here ... at a show or a shop maybe, friend or donation

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a517/Thebrokestpoet/518bd4b8-9b5d-4f78-bf07-949972f34829_zps5d5e4003.jpg

[msumarr54]

I bet you dont . And of that dollar JHShow won't see 25 cents of it for shipping . Plus what ever her has into it . You really think you are his get it for less then a dollar shipped ... good luck . Starting to smell like Vinegar and Water in here ... at a show or a shop maybe, friend or donation

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a517/Thebrokestpoet/518bd4b8-9b5d-4f78-bf07-949972f34829_zps5d5e4003.jpg

I have no idea what message your trying to convey to me by your statement above...........I also have vinegar and water.

In all seriousness, I've realized from the get go this is all over $3 dollars. I simply do not like reject and raise price approach. This is MY formed opinion. My anecdote seems to match up with other stories so I'm not changing my tune. You have your opinion. He's a big time, great seller. Some will say that about bigboyd as well. Its an internet forum....I take everyone's opinion here with a grain of salt......sorry to burst your bubble. And I expect the same. Nobody is going to see this and take a stand and not buy from the guy. I'm not trying to start a rebellion against this dude. Just don't like his practices. And I'm a stubborn ahole. I'm not going to buy from him. So if I come off as entitled and contrived, I might be......but I stick to my guns, thats for damn sure.

[brewcrew82]

I must be missing something here.My first Card show was 1981 in Fullerton ,CA.I remember paying 3,00 for a Fernando Rookie.And this guy is complaining about a cheap card.Buy a case and maybe you will become your card.I dont think this guy gives a rats ass if you by his cards.For your low ball offer I wouuldnt even answer your offer.Thats why I have Auto-Accept some of us work and dont have time to worry about bad offers.I would say you have the wrong hobby when a dollar card is your only problem.

[thebrokepoet]

I called 911 as well ...they said to never call then about this again

[ManInTheMirror]

3 dollars IS very important to me. That's 3 items from the dollar menu at McDonalds. Thats ALMOST 3/4 of a gallon of gas here in MI. That's a pack of hobby Opening Day. That's 3 more times I get to slip those George Washingtons into Destiny's thong. That's a Joey Harrington Patch Auto 1/1. That 3 dollars is a refreshing double deuce of Colt 45 awaiting me at my local Citgo. That $3 is for every Goonie who has ever been wronged
dang brother if things are so tight you knew/know I'm a buyer of the McNabb reebok tag.... :devil:

[msumarr54]

dang brother if things are so tight you knew/know I'm a buyer of the McNabb reebok tag.... :devil:

..........I guess???? Everyone is telling me I'm broke and a lowballer. Whatevs, I'm just going to roll through every cliche to get it over with:

MY COLLECTION IS BETTER THAN YOURS JUST LOOK AT MY PHOTOBUCKET
GET YOUR POST COUNT UP THEN WE CAN TALK
CHECK OUT MY ITRADER AND FEEDBACK AND SEE IF I'M A LOWBALLER
LOOKS LIKE SCHOOL IS OUT FOR THE SUMMER

God Bless
*sent from US Airways

[thebrokepoet]

If I find one its yours :) on the house ... pwe of course and I will be looking

[brewcrew82]

..........I guess???? Everyone is telling me I'm broke and a lowballer. Whatevs, I'm just going to roll through every cliche to get it over with:

MY COLLECTION IS BETTER THAN YOURS JUST LOOK AT MY PHOTOBUCKET
GET YOUR POST COUNT UP THEN WE CAN TALK
CHECK OUT MY ITRADER AND FEEDBACK AND SEE IF I'M A LOWBALLER
LOOKS LIKE SCHOOL IS OUT FOR THE SUMMER

God Bless
*sent from US Airways

Id say your missing the big Picture here.I would drive 8 hours to go to show.I remember a show in Modesto,Ca where I talked to Bob Feller and his wife over 2 hours long.He showed my how to throw a wicked Cuve_Ball (Throw it with A whip) in his own words.This B.S. My Collection and,and,and.Get a life man learn to enjoy the hobby.Its only a card if you think somebody should sell this card cheap because its missing in your collection.WHO Cares::::::

[msumarr54]

If I find one its yours :) on the house ... pwe of course and I will be looking

You got a deal sir.....I'll even throw .97 your way. Not a penny more :)!

[msumarr54]

Id say your missing the big Picture here.I would drive 8 hours to go to show.I remember a show in Modesto,Ca where I talked to Bob Feller and his wife over 2 hours long.He showed my how to throw a wicked Cuve_Ball (Throw it with A whip) in his own words.This B.S. My Collection and,and,and.Get a life man learn to enjoy the hobby.Its only a card if you think somebody should sell this card cheap because its missing in your collection.WHO Cares::::::

I'd say your missing the point sir.......I don't like reject and raise. All I'm getting at. A lot of this thread is me just pulling people's chains.

Don't take life too seriously.......nobody gets out alive anyways and good luck with your Feller-esque curveball

/and if you took my cliche ridden post above as truth, then god help us all there is nothing I can do

[Cactuspies]

I just want to confirm now that is is ok to be the lowest price, get an offer, raise the asking and counter at a higher price? That is ok with everyone....please make offers on all my cards which are the lowest on the site. I will now raise asking to match the next lowest and counter at 1/2 that.

jhs is NOT the lowest prices on many of his cards, maybe the lower end, but look at the other stuff. I challenge all of you in here to make an offer on something of his and see what happens. Please report back to prove us wrong on his practices.

Maybe now I'm getting confused by some peoples business practices or what they consider good business.

I have plenty on ebay fs and many for charity. Please make an offer or buy and I will tack on more on the invoice. my cards, my prices, 1/2 to charity anyway...wtf is in the air? is the heat hitting people that hard, more people moving to florida.

[brewcrew82]

Why dos it bother you how he sells HIS Cards.There not YOURS.You dont pay his fees,NOTHING,and you start a blog and say its all a joke .WHY ?.If you have nothing beeter to do theres Millions of homeless people that would love a hot meal.Stop collecting and start cooking....

[msumarr54]

Why dos it bother you how he sells HIS Cards.There not YOURS.You dont pay his fees,NOTHING,and you start a blog and say its all a joke .WHY ?.If you have nothing beeter to do theres Millions of homeless people that would love a hot meal.Stop collecting and start cooking....

I didn't start a blog. I posted a thread. Informing the public of a practice I don't agree with. Now, you sir, seem very angry. I suggest grabbing an ice cold stein of beer and letting off some steam. guten tag my friend, guten tag

Thats all the german I know honestly

[GoBeavs]

This is an entertaining thread. Went from bashing JHS to bashing the OP. Seems like both sides are overreacting IMO. Seller can do what they want with their cards. Buyer can choose to not buy if they don't like the terms.

I'm fully aware that JHS is tough on offers, (I think I've had one accepted in around 20), but he also is already one of the lower pricers on the site. Are those prices still too high on some cards? Sure, they might be. OTOH, some might be too low. In the OP's example, JHS simply thinks his price was too low after the offer alerted him to check.

There's nothing wrong with changing a price when an offer alerts the seller that their price is too low. I've done it a few times myself. Although I'll give the offerer a chance at the old price in my counter, even though I wouldn't consider that a requirement of all sellers. Your protection from the chance that the price gets raised is to just buy the card at the list price.

I don't know if I speak for all COMC sellers with this statement I'm going to throw out to buyers: Low end ONE-card offers (under $1) are kind of cheap (annoying/insulting). Do you really need to haggle over a quarter?

Sidenote: I do like the OP's attitude/humor. If you do find that Harrington 1/1, I'll give you $4 for it. I can probably get $5 for it here in Portland.

[brewcrew82]

Thats not german you wrote in English.But thats O.K.Im not pissed I dont care wat you do but your talking about a guy thats trying to make a living wiith what he does and say its wrong.Invest the money hes invested than when can talk about you.And are beer taste great over here.

[msumarr54]

Id say your missing the big Picture here.I would drive 8 hours to go to show.I remember a show in Modesto,Ca where I talked to Bob Feller and his wife over 2 hours long.He showed my how to throw a wicked Cuve_Ball (Throw it with A whip) in his own words.This B.S. My Collection and,and,and.Get a life man learn to enjoy the hobby.Its only a card if you think somebody should sell this card cheap because its missing in your collection.WHO Cares::::::

Thats not german you wrote in English.But thats O.K.Im not pissed I dont care wat you do but your talking about a guy thats trying to make a living wiith what he does and say its wrong.Invest the money hes invested than when can talk about you.And are beer taste great over here.

Whoa..whoa...whoa

We went from hobby collecting TO MAKING A LIVING!!!!!!

I'm sorry this thread.....will directly impact his bottom line. I look forward to my day in court when he attempts to sue and I get to present this thread in all is glory..............I'm ready for my 10 minutes!
:)!

[XL5]

So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight

God Bless, everyone. You've been great!

[brewcrew82]

No.Your trying to say this guys wrong for not accepting your low ball offer.Then you try to say its all a joke I just wanted to see what would happen when I posted this.Then you wanted to show how big you where with your my photo bucket usw....Please save us your low ball offers and buy somewhere else..

[msumarr54]

No.Your trying to say this guys wrong for not accepting your low ball offer.Then you try to say its all a joke I just wanted to see what would happen when I posted this.Then you wanted to show how big you where with your my photo bucket usw....Please save us your low ball offers and buy somewhere else..

I WAS JOKING ABOUT THE PHOTOBUCKET MAN. THATS THE GO TO MOVE. IT ALWAYS TURNS INTO A DIK WAGGING CONTEST......WHY AM I SCREAMING!!!

I will give you this brewcrew......you are indeed, the smartest guy in the room. I will refrain from making any low ball offers on your COMC. Not because I don't like you, I do truthfully enjoy your posts, but out of respect.

Much luv!

[brewcrew82]

I WAS JOKING ABOUT THE PHOTOBUCKET MAN. THATS THE GO TO MOVE. IT ALWAYS TURNS INTO A DIK WAGGING CONTEST......WHY AM I SCREAMING!!!

I will give you this brewcrew......you are indeed, the smartest guy in the room. I will refrain from making any low ball offers on your COMC. Not because I don't like you, I do truthfully enjoy your posts, but out of respect.

Much luv!

I love you too..Lets just be Friends and if you ever come to Germany We can drink a couple of Becks together..Have fun with your low ball offers and be happy when there accepted!!!!!!!

[msumarr54]

I love you too..Lets just be Friends and if you ever come to Germany We can drink a couple of Becks together..Have fun with your low ball offers and be happy when there accepted!!!!!!!

Done and done.....I'd prefer a nice IPA or hefeweizen myself....but I'll settle for some Becks

[brewcrew82]

Man.I live in Bremen all we got is Becks.Sorry.

[peapod]

I have had the ratbatard raise the price during the offer process then counter with an offer higher than the original price.
Doesn't this turd work for Ebay? If so it shows where he gets his ethics.

[base set]

dang, a great Joey card already bid up a dollar, with another Duck buck on the horizon.
-uck!

I hate it when someone else wants the card I want more than me.

[dirtydistance]

Google this guys handle..seriously 1787 youtube episodes of him talking about himself..wow

[thebrokepoet]

Man ... this guys million dollar collection (probably multi) sucks huh .. He stinks .

I wish he would take all my offers but its just like he wants money or really good cards .

I hate people who do big businesses .

He is such a Richard ... and that means a bad word for penis if you think about it in a "funny" way .

I also HATE funny guys . Hate with all capital letters . And sarcasm .

I also hate the end of jokes . Sooooooo I like to keep them going .

Sometimes I keep them going like three entences longer then they should . Sooooooo it's funny in a way but kind of ruins it in way . But since it's funny I hate it but it's not to so I'm okay with it .

[phillyfan42]

Interesting thread.
I haven't dealt with the joelshitshow much but i did check and found i bought a couple things from him and a couple were 50% off offers including one of my favorite purchases (Ginter Cole Hamels Auto that he sold me for $12.50). Also he has rejected some offers. So frankly he seems to be just like most sellers in my book, if you meet their price they'll sell if not they'll reject.

The sellers i can't stand are the ones that will either counter down a penny instead of just rejecting or will reject every offer including new higher offers but also will lowball you on your items.

I have no problem with raising the list price during negotiations. It has happened to me on items i have wanted to buy but there have been plenty of times where i didnt want to have that happen so i just hit the buy it now button.

I think because joelshitshows (and really the big comc sellers) does this for a living people may have an issue becuase he might not negotiate as much they would like them to. Not saying it is right or wrong becuase you can sell/buy for whatever you want. However, i think thats why it is just easier dealing generally with small collectors who are just flipping cards for their pc and really dont care as much about getting top dollar as opposed to just making some profit to fund their hobby.

[Sikkcaden]

Man ... this guys million dollar collection (probably multi) sucks huh .. He stinks .

I wish he would take all my offers but its just like he wants money or really good cards .

I hate people who do big businesses .

He is such a Richard ... and that means a bad word for penis if you think about it in a "funny" way .

I also HATE funny guys . Hate with all capital letters . And sarcasm .

I also hate the end of jokes . Sooooooo I like to keep them going .

Sometimes I keep them going like three entences longer then they should . Sooooooo it's funny in a way but kind of ruins it in way . But since it's funny I hate it but it's not to so I'm okay with it .

Remember that time you made that thread mocking Jason Collins cause he's gay? So many LOL's to go around in that gem!


This thread should have died 2 pages ago lol

[thebrokepoet]

Remember that time you made that thread mocking Jason Collins cause he's gay? So many LOL's to go around in that gem!


This thread should have died 2 pages ago lol

For the record, I was asking what everyone thought Jason Collins favorite card of himself was or would be if he collected cards . Got out of control quickly . LoL

[cross4444]

I buy and sell a moderate amount on COMC and can't remember any experience with JHS that stands out. I did notice that he listed a ton of 2013 Topps Chipz that I was interested in today, but he has every single one at $20. I'd have guessed maybe $2 would be fair, but is $20 what they go for? He also listed a handful of the 2013 Topps Chrome Update relics (sweet looking cards) for $50 each. How does he have so much success?

[colls69]

He obviously doesn't need the money and really doesn't care about sales. He probably has a decent amount of play money and uses his port as a "museum". I agree some of those prices look like he fat fingered when entering the price and added one or two many extra zeros.

[jrod7290]

Pretty sure he's one of the people who undercuts everyone by a penny. Kind of a tool move in my book.

[Gmrson]

Reject and reprice is a scum move in my opinion. Nothing like sacrificing future purchases over $1.

I rather just sell it and make the man happy to open the opportunity for future sales. Especially if all its going to cost me is a few bucks!

Agree with this! If it wasn't selling at it's current price and I finally have a buyer I don't jack it up. I'm often the only one with an item and most of the time if I don't want to take a low offer I will still give the 20% I would have lost with an Amazon purchase. If I have it on COMC, I want to sell it.

[chipmaster]

Here's your Idol boys:

The JoelsHitShow - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/JoelsHitShow)

hBsOXcvJRWM

[jmscoggin]

Here's your Idol boys:


WTF? Video Twitter? I will say though that he looks EXACTLY as I pictured. Take that how you want. I don't think I've ever bought a card from him although I've tried many times. Prices are crazy on anything I was interested in.

[TheHeel]

Looks like he has a nice kitchen....

[chipmaster]

Looks like he has a nice kitchen....

and a rather large penis

[DetectiveChrome]

No disrespect to Wake but c'mon....

2013 Topps Chrome #177 - Cameron Wake - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Football/2013/Topps_Chrome/177/Cameron_Wake/7031960)

JHS is a scumbag

[mrwalken]

Undercutting by a penny is counterproductive and really annoying, imo. Weird that he posts so many videos like that. Some of them have like 4 views.

[VeedonFleece]

Looks like he has a nice kitchen....

and a rather large penis

Good for him. He can go **** himself!

[jetscollector10]

This thread is both so mean and so awesome at the same time.
:P

[37Jetson]

Here's your Idol boys:

The JoelsHitShow - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/JoelsHitShow)

hBsOXcvJRWM

My 12 year old is not that self absorbed..... What a tool

[Swipe79]

I made the mistake of watching this...umm...yikes.

So basically he tapes himself talking about the asanine stuff he does in his life...why?

Here's your Idol boys:

The JoelsHitShow - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/JoelsHitShow)

hBsOXcvJRWM

[Highroller]

Here's your Idol boys:

The JoelsHitShow - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/JoelsHitShow)

hBsOXcvJRWM

He needs a friend.

[jmscoggin]

So basically he tapes himself talking about the asanine stuff he does in his life...why?

I'm sure this is what people around Zuckerberg were saying too way back then. This time sadly they (you) are completely right. Or so I think. Maybe he really is onto something.

Again, 'video Twitter'. He is trying to start a trend. :rolleyes: This is why I don't use Twitter and probably never will. It is the same kind of nonsense that most everyone tweets. Somehow it is interesting if it is a celeb doing it instead of a COMC nobody though. :rolleyes: I've never felt the need to send out my status of accomplishing menial tasks. Then again I'm pretty out of touch with what is cool so maybe it's me.

[benshobbies]

When does school vacation get out?!

[superjames27]

i found this thread ironic because i think that many posters in this thread prices suck lol im looking at you jms

[msumarr54]

Hahahahah!!!! Forgot about this thread!!!

BTW I did get my guillen xfractor at MY price.

Score one for the little guy!!!!

[amazingpacks]

I usually price my card the highest so i dont need to worry about checking everyday. Am i missing something?

[jmscoggin]

i found this thread ironic because i think that many posters in this thread prices suck lol im looking at you jms

This is at least the second time you've called me out on this in public. The first time I let it go but this time I wont. The funny thing is that I actually went in on the cards you specifically asked for and made them all the lowest on the site after you asked about them. Even that wasn't enough for you as you are an extreme lowballer. I have too many cards to keep up with all of the pricing. Sometimes the values move down and I don't notice so my cards stay up. Sometimes the values go up and I don't notice and I am way underpriced. I am almost always the lowest or in the lowest three at the time I list my cards though unless it is rare or the only card on site. Then I price more aggressively as most sellers do. If another then gets added and I didn't notice then my card is higher but the only one that hurts is me. None of my prices are intentionally ridiculous and if they are and someone lets me know then I adjust them just as I did for you. I also allow 45% off offers. Not that I will accept them on everything but it is something that sellers like Joel don't do.

Moral of the story? Piss off. If you want to lowball and be a cheap arse fine. But don't call me out in public because I wont roll over for you. You feel entitled that just because you are collecting a set that everyone should give them to you. :rolleyes:

[TheHeel]

I do not deal with BaBa Booey look-a-like.

[37Jetson]

i found this thread ironic because i think that many posters in this thread prices suck lol im looking at you jms

I will simplify the concept for you.... If you do not like the price on COMC (even after an offer) then do not buy the card.

[Cactuspies]

I just sold a card on comc for $1.60. I had it listed for $3. I looked it up on ebay and it was going for more than $3 nearly every time before shipping costs. A couple of bad listings for less, but most I saw were about $6 w/shipping if not more. The person who purchased it also had the same card on "sale" for $3 (reg asking price $15) and there were 6 others priced less than me prior to me getting an offer. Deals can be had if you look, I can't keep track of every card in my mini port. but back on topic about richard heads.

[cross4444]

I don't think we can fault anyone for how they price their cards. The cards belong to them, and if they don't want to sell them, then they don't have to.

[jmscoggin]

I don't think we can fault anyone for how they price their cards. The cards belong to them, and if they don't want to sell them, then they don't have to.

Hi Joel, welcome to BO. :)! In all seriousness you are right though. It is why I have never been upset at people that ask ridiculous prices. Sure I get frustrated when they have something I want and they are way above value but so what, it is their item to do as they please with. The videos on the other hand? Can't find a way to defend that, sorry.

[dirtydistance]

I had no problem with Jhs,actually yes I did, until the other day when he was defending comc charging extra to process $50 and up cards. I felt ready to reply with "you are a huge Richard" then I find this again...

And the worst YouTube video of all time goes to..

[cross4444]

Hi Joel, welcome to BO. :)! In all seriousness you are right though. It is why I have never been upset at people that ask ridiculous prices. Sure I get frustrated when they have something I want and they are way above value but so what, it is their item to do as they please with. The videos on the other hand? Can't find a way to defend that, sorry.

Haha, I'm the one who called him out to bring this post back from the dead! I don't fault him for his prices, I was just curious to how he sells anything, but maybe he doesn't sell much which is why his port is so big.

[CollectorMan]

Here's your Idol boys:

The JoelsHitShow - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/JoelsHitShow)

hBsOXcvJRWM

Wow...:eek: This thread has confirmed what I've always believed...Thank you for posting this video.:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!

I am also not a fan of this person, but these videos make everything so very ok now. :D:D:D:)!:)!:)!

[jmscoggin]

Haha, I'm the one who called him out to bring this post back from the dead! I don't fault him for his prices, I was just curious to how he sells anything, but maybe he doesn't sell much which is why his port is so big.

I like big ports and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a port sits there with a lot of relics and tons of ink in your face
You get sprung,
wanna pull out your Paypal and get spendin
'Cause you notice that port was stuffed
Deep in the port he's flossin
I'm hooked and I can't stop buyin

[superjames27]

Joelshitshow

[VeedonFleece]

JMS doesn't do promos so good luck with that!

Why are we falling out on this thread anyway? Can't we all just agree that Joel is a HUGE richard?

(Tbf I had a few of his videos playing in the background and while they are very boring and self-indulgent, he's clearly not unintelligent and very occasionally managed to make me smile.)

[superjames27]

JMS doesn't do promos so good luck with that!

Why are we falling out on this thread anyway? Can't we all just agree that Joel is a HUGE richard?

(Tbf I had a few of his videos playing in the background and while they are very boring and self-indulgent, he's clearly not unintelligent and very occasionally managed to make me smile.)

I don't know haha sorry , and yes an intelligent bored Richard is what I gathered

[cross4444]

I like big ports and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a port sits there with a lot of relics and tons of ink in your face
You get sprung,
wanna pull out your Paypal and get spendin
'Cause you notice that port was stuffed
Deep in the port he's flossin
I'm hooked and I can't stop buyin

:special::special::special:

[Sauceman]

Watching that video makes me want to stop collecting cards. What a mega doucher. "I went to CVS today and my parents made me a chocolate cake". Wow. If you post things like this to the internet, we as a people have EVERY RIGHT to enjoy them or completely destroy everything they represent. I am so glad you got your X-fractor OP, god, what a richard.

[marino5084]

Watching that video makes me want to stop collecting cards. What a mega doucher. "I went to CVS today and my parents made me a chocolate cake". Wow. If you post things like this to the internet, we as a people have EVERY RIGHT to enjoy them or completely destroy everything they represent. I am so glad you got your X-fractor OP, god, what a richard.

Really? What gives you that right? Are you superior? I highly doubt it. I think that the douchers and Richards are the several people in this thread that believe they have the right to trash someone for the way they look or act. Not one of you are better than anyone else but you act as if you are. The world would be a much better place if people would accept others for who they are and not trash them to make themselves feel better.

[Sauceman]

Really? What gives you that right? Are you superior? I highly doubt it. I think that the douchers and Richards are the several people in this thread that believe they have the right to trash someone for the way they look or act. Not one of you are better than anyone else but you act as if you are. The world would be a much better place if people would accept others for who they are and not trash them to make themselves feel better.

Not true. Putting yourself out there in videos on the internet opens you up to criticism. How can you deny that?

[jmscoggin]

JMS doesn't do promos so good luck with that!


You are correct sir. It made me smile when he posted that just for that reason. He wants things given to him which is perfectly fine as I've been known to throw out lowball offers as well. What pisses me off is that I have never and would never publically bash out of nowhere said seller. James has done it to me twice now. He may want to think twice about doing it again as I'm pretty sure I still have the pm's. I was more than accomodating. I asked what cards he was interested in, made sure each one was the absolute lowest on the site and even welcomed him to make lower offers. He came off entitled and demanding and was bad mouthing the cards. Not sure why he wanted them so bad if they were all so crappy. :rolleyes: In any event I just let it go but he has now twice attacked me out of the blue. If there is a huge Richard in the thread I'm not sure that it is Joel.

[marino5084]

Not true. Putting yourself out there in videos on the internet opens you up to criticism. How can you deny that?

Criticism is fine. That's not what is taking place hear. People are out right making fun of the man as if they had a right (as you stated) to do so.

Live and let live, it makes you a better person.

[jmscoggin]

Criticism is fine. That's not what is taking place hear. People are out right making fun of the man as if they had a right (as you stated) to do so.

Live and let live, it makes you a better person.

I kind of see both sides of this. Joel made the videos and put them out into the public. Once you do that you are welcoming anything that occurs. Maybe he gets mocked, maybe he makes new friends, maybe he becomes a huge Youtube star which leads to movie roles an Oscar and a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. The point is that Joel by what I can gather is a pretty smart guy. He chose to put this videos out and is aware of the downfalls. I have no sympathy for any comments made towrds them or hard feelings he may get from them. However, I don't feel the need to attack him personally.

Are the videos corny and self absorbed? Sure. Would I have done them? No. Is my life any more exciting than his which would have made for more entertaining videos? Probably not. Therefore I don't see how people have the "right" to make fun of him but also have a hard time criticizing them for doing it. Live and let live is certainly the higher moral ground. I wish I could say that it is always the road I take but sadly I can't.

[calculusdork]

I will say, honestly ... this thread has made me sad for a lot of people.

[jmscoggin]

I will say, honestly ... this thread has made me sad for a lot of people.

Calc, you can post this same thing in 99% of the threads on these boards and it would be every bit as appropriate.

[marino5084]

I kind of see both sides of this. Joel made the videos and put them out into the public. Once you do that you are welcoming anything that occurs. Maybe he gets mocked, maybe he makes new friends, maybe he becomes a huge Youtube star which leads to movie roles an Oscar and a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. The point is that Joel by what I can gather is a pretty smart guy. He chose to put this videos out and is aware of the downfalls. I have no sympathy for any comments made towrds them or hard feelings he may get from them. However, I don't feel the need to attack him personally.

Are the videos corny and self absorbed? Sure. Would I have done them? No. Is my life any more exciting than his which would have made for more entertaining videos? Probably not. Therefore I don't see how people have the "right" to make fun of him but also have a hard time criticizing them for doing it. Live and let live is certainly the higher moral ground. I wish I could say that it is always the road I take but sadly I can't.

I can't say I always take that road either but I choose not to make fun of people as I am no better than the next person. It's unnecessary and can be harmful.

Thank you for taking the time to at least think about it and respond in the manner that you did.

[Sauceman]

Jeez guys....The guy got offers on his card, and responded by RAISING the price. What was his intention there? It was to be a jerk. That is what this is all about. Jerk actions will be met with jerk responses. Its a card forum, not the church of morals.

[jmscoggin]

Jeez guys....The guy got offers on his card, and responded by RAISING the price. What was his intention there? It was to be a jerk. That is what this is all about. Jerk actions will be met with jerk responses. Its a card forum, not the church of morals.

I have received offers and raised prices too. It happens when you have so many cards that you can't keep up. Sometimes I have cards that have gone up in value and I didn't know so my prices are now too low. Then I get a super lowball offer on the already low price. This allows me to see that my price was low and adjust it to what it is supposed to be worth. Is that what happened with Joel? I don't know but you made a blanket statement and I only offer another possible explanation.

[calculusdork]

Jeez guys....The guy got offers on his card, and responded by RAISING the price. What was his intention there? It was to be a jerk. That is what this is all about. Jerk actions will be met with jerk responses. Its a card forum, not the church of morals.

Solid logic there. :rolleyes:

[calculusdork]

Calc, you can post this same thing in 99% of the threads on these boards and it would be every bit as appropriate.

Truth. I am quickly approaching the point where it no longer benefits me to have an account here.

[frozenntimesports]

He's one of the Blowout Founding Fathers and was on this site until a lot of you turd burglars scared him away :)

"Jugghead" was his alias

Yep, he was one of the good ones.


Reject and reprice is a scum move in my opinion. Nothing like sacrificing future purchases over $1.

I rather just sell it and make the man happy to open the opportunity for future sales. Especially if all its going to cost me is a few bucks!

That's your business model, it isn't mine or his apparently. Sometimes I get an offer and think, "hmm, haven't see activity on this is in awhile," then I check eBay, see that the card is hot and raise the price. If I've got the card at a bargain price and you make an offer to try to get it for less and I research, I think it's a you problem, not a me problem when I check to see what is up.


Sorry OP, the original post just reeks of entitlement.

Just another entitled millennial.


I have had the ratbatard raise the price during the offer process then counter with an offer higher than the original price.
Doesn't this turd work for Ebay? If so it shows where he gets his ethics.

So the company he works for is a problem... in this economy? You are a fool.


Pretty sure he's one of the people who undercuts everyone by a penny. Kind of a tool move in my book.

Its a strategy. He has 100,000 cards in his port or so, I'm sure he isn't doing that on every card. I used that strategy but it is a race to the bottom and I stopped.


I will simplify the concept for you.... If you do not like the price on COMC (even after an offer) then do not buy the card.

Bull's eye.


Jeez guys....The guy got offers on his card, and responded by RAISING the price. What was his intention there? It was to be a jerk. That is what this is all about. Jerk actions will be met with jerk responses. Its a card forum, not the church of morals.

Maybe it was a jerk move to try to get a lower price on a card that was already underpriced.


Let me summarize what probably happened. OP saw a card he wanted that was very underpriced and tried to get even more of a discount and made an offer. Seller checked and saw he was underpriced and raised his price. Now OP is butthurt because he couldn't turn the profit he could have if he just paid the asking price.

[VeedonFleece]

Really? What gives you that right? Are you superior? I highly doubt it. I think that the douchers and Richards are the several people in this thread that believe they have the right to trash someone for the way they look or act. Not one of you are better than anyone else but you act as if you are. The world would be a much better place if people would accept others for who they are and not trash them to make themselves feel better.

Dude, you're doing the same thing as the people you are criticizing. And I categorically am a better person than Kim Jong-un, so if he ever opens an account here I will slate him mercilessly! I do agree with your general sentiment though.

To anyone else who might have found the posts in this thread a little distasteful, I'd like to say that the majority of my posts, at least, were intended to convey humour. Heck, I even called him intelligent and admitted to having laughed a couple of times at his videos.

I (and others tbf) have said it before and will repeat - people can do whatever they want with THEIR cards. I genuinely don't like JHS's practices so I don't deal with him. Simple.

[cross4444]

Sorry for bumping this old thread in the first place, I honestly just wanted to know if it was possible to ask for super high prices and get them to sell :(

[msumarr54]

Yep, he was one of the good ones.




That's your business model, it isn't mine or his apparently. Sometimes I get an offer and think, "hmm, haven't see activity on this is in awhile," then I check eBay, see that the card is hot and raise the price. If I've got the card at a bargain price and you make an offer to try to get it for less and I research, I think it's a you problem, not a me problem when I check to see what is up.




Just another entitled millennial.




So the company he works for is a problem... in this economy? You are a fool.




Its a strategy. He has 100,000 cards in his port or so, I'm sure he isn't doing that on every card. I used that strategy but it is a race to the bottom and I stopped.




Bull's eye.




Maybe it was a jerk move to try to get a lower price on a card that was already underpriced.


Let me summarize what probably happened. OP saw a card he wanted that was very underpriced and tried to get even more of a discount and made an offer. Seller checked and saw he was underpriced and raised his price. Now OP is butthurt because he couldn't turn the profit he could have if he just paid the asking price.


Did you even read the post??? It was a Carlos Guillen xfractor WHO HAS BEEN RETIRED FOR TWO YEARS!!! and I'm far from an entitled "millennial". Why don't you go change your username again or improve upon your previous attempts at being a mod. I believe calculusdork was even in a similar predicament and I had to bust his chops over his comments here. Now I didn't bump this thread but my original opinion still stands........ He is a Richard and your previous ill-informed post tends to make me lean in that direction towards you as well.

[sportscardmania]

I don't know what's funnier, the guy from Germany telling the O.P. to start cooking...or that video by Joel Sh!t show. :lol:

[cking]

The fact that someone would make a video as a response to offers they did not like pertaining to the sports cards they are selling is pretty sad..............get a life.

[marino5084]

Dude, you're doing the same thing as the people you are criticizing. And I categorically am a better person than Kim Jong-un, so if he ever opens an account here I will slate him mercilessly! I do agree with your general sentiment though.

To anyone else who might have found the posts in this thread a little distasteful, I'd like to say that the majority of my posts, at least, were intended to convey humour. Heck, I even called him intelligent and admitted to having laughed a couple of times at his videos.

I (and others tbf) have said it before and will repeat - people can do whatever they want with THEIR cards. I genuinely don't like JHS's practices so I don't deal with him. Simple.

You can keep on trying to justify the wrong. I'm not criticizing, I'm outright saying that what you are all doing is wrong. Just a bunch of internet tough guys and girls with nothing better to do than put others down to make themselves feel better about their own inadequacies.

I'm sure you will be back to pick this post apart as well. I have said what I wanted and made the point I felt was necessary to make.

[VeedonFleece]

I think that the douchers and Richards are the several people in this thread that believe they have the right to trash someone for the way they look or act.

Just a bunch of internet tough guys and girls with nothing better to do

Quoted without comment.

[frozenntimesports]

Did you even read the post??? It was a Carlos Guillen xfractor WHO HAS BEEN RETIRED FOR TWO YEARS!!! and I'm far from an entitled "millennial". Why don't you go change your username again or improve upon your previous attempts at being a mod. I believe calculusdork was even in a similar predicament and I had to bust his chops over his comments here. Now I didn't bump this thread but my original opinion still stands........ He is a Richard and your previous ill-informed post tends to make me lean in that direction towards you as well.

Sorry then, you are an entitled jack-wagon from another generation then.

Obviously you wanted the Carlos Guillen xfractor but wanted to pay less. JSS didn't want to sell it to you for that price and you got upset and decided to call an innocent party something awful.

Case closed.

[Sauceman]

http://s28.postimg.org/agkr3w3rh/1guil.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

[msumarr54]

Nope still here……………he's still a jackwagon for raising a price after I made a fair offer

An unethical business move in my mind to raise the initial price…..and guess what, I waited a month, made the SAME offer, and he accepted it. So what does that say??

So go back to lawyering and I'll go back to teaching the youth of America and we'll call it day.

Case closed Matlock

[chipmaster]

" my parents made me a chocolate cake".

quit hatin'

[shrevecity]

wonder how much he has made off Youtube thanks to all this publicity?

[amazingpacks]

wonder how much he has made off Youtube thanks to all this publicity?

couple pennies probably.

[jlzinck]

Wow....off again to the Basketball folder where this thread makes them look like MENSA members.,

[VeedonFleece]

Wow....off again to the Basketball folder where this thread makes them look like MENSA members.,

Yeah, I've noticed your genius presence hasn't addressed the 'Andrelton Simmons is miles better than Jose Iglesias' discussion since people started using fancy numbers.

[jlzinck]

Yeah, I've noticed your genius presence hasn't addressed the 'Andrelton Simmons is miles better than Jose Iglesias' discussion since people started using fancy numbers.

As I said there. I will use my eyes. You use your numbers.

Not sure what that has to do with this thread but you go girl

[bobthewondercat]

Guys like Joel having two THOUSAND episodes of a completely unplanned and staggeringly dull web series is the type of thing that makes the Internet amazing.

[basezloaded]

Resurrecting an old thread to share today's reject/reprice story - found it humorous initially, but in some seriousness, other sellers may want to use it strategically in pricing their own cards.

- JHS has/had (13) 2013 Bowman #45 A-Rods listed at .10 each.
- I have (3) of the same to price and prefer not to compete at that price point.
- Sent a $1 offer for the (13). Flame me for low-balling, fine, I was simply testing OP/other comments.
- Sure enough, offer rejected and prices now raised on all (13) to .39
- Now I can price my (3) at .25 where I wanted them.

I know, we're talking about commons/low end and, yes, he may very well lower them right back down, but it was a fun exercise nonetheless.

[SpastikMooss]

Resurrecting an old thread to share today's reject/reprice story - found it humorous initially, but in some seriousness, other sellers may want to use it strategically in pricing their own cards.

- JHS has/had (13) 2013 Bowman #45 A-Rods listed at .10 each.
- I have (3) of the same to price and prefer not to compete at that price point.
- Sent a $1 offer for the (13). Flame me for low-balling, fine, I was simply testing OP/other comments.
- Sure enough, offer rejected and prices now raised on all (13) to .39
- Now I can price my (3) at .25 where I wanted them.

I know, we're talking about commons/low end and, yes, he may very well lower them right back down, but it was a fun exercise nonetheless.

YES that reminds me of a very similar story I had with him!

He had 19 copies of Rafael Furcal's 2012 Walk Off Win at $0.07, which pretty much guaranteed it'd be the first card listed forever since all other cards were $0.08 or more and no one would flip a card with 19 copies. I made an offer of $0.98 on the cards which would've been $1.33 otherwise. He countered (which, fine, no worries) and offers me all 19 for $1.51, because he changed the price to $.08 for all of them. I rejected but I was so happy...now any $0.07 card I posted would make me first and I made a ton of sales over the next few days off people seeing my $0.07 cards and looking at my bigger port.

So...thanks for changing those prices JSS!

[SpastikMooss]

Resurrecting an old thread to share today's reject/reprice story - found it humorous initially, but in some seriousness, other sellers may want to use it strategically in pricing their own cards.

- JHS has/had (13) 2013 Bowman #45 A-Rods listed at .10 each.
- I have (3) of the same to price and prefer not to compete at that price point.
- Sent a $1 offer for the (13). Flame me for low-balling, fine, I was simply testing OP/other comments.
- Sure enough, offer rejected and prices now raised on all (13) to .39
- Now I can price my (3) at .25 where I wanted them.

I know, we're talking about commons/low end and, yes, he may very well lower them right back down, but it was a fun exercise nonetheless.

Btw you're like my favorite buyer on COMC. I put my stuff at cheap prices and you buy it up quick hahaha...can't hate on that! I also see you have JSS' Furcals now.

[37Jetson]

Resurrecting an old thread to share today's reject/reprice story - found it humorous initially, but in some seriousness, other sellers may want to use it strategically in pricing their own cards.

- JHS has/had (13) 2013 Bowman #45 A-Rods listed at .10 each.
- I have (3) of the same to price and prefer not to compete at that price point.
- Sent a $1 offer for the (13). Flame me for low-balling, fine, I was simply testing OP/other comments.
- Sure enough, offer rejected and prices now raised on all (13) to .39
- Now I can price my (3) at .25 where I wanted them.

I know, we're talking about commons/low end and, yes, he may very well lower them right back down, but it was a fun exercise nonetheless.

This is a fantastic strategy. We should all send him multiple offers on his cards every day so we can waste his time repricing everything.

Has JSS posted any more videos?

[VeedonFleece]

I've had fun in the past too but I generally avoid his cards these days. That said, I made offers to 4 people on some Joey Gallos the other week - 3 people accepted, including JSS, and the other raised the price. (This always makes me smile - nobody wanted your card at $3.50 but you turn down my $3 and raise it to 6? That'll work!)

[basezloaded]

Seriously thinking this may become a strategy to be implemented periodically. I'll refrain from doing it daily, but it's interesting to say the least - and effective.

(2010 Bowman #2 Kevin Youkilis cards x10 previously priced at .11 each)
User 'joelshitshow' did not accept the $0.95 offer from your COMC.com account.
The $0.95 of pending funds has been added back to your available store credit.

Rejected, repriced at .28 - now can sneak mine in at .25

Yeah, it's childish - but it's entertaining.

[ddearing]

Is there something I am missing or is this card slightly overpriced?

1990 Score #238 - Dave Duerson - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Football/1990/Score/238/Dave_Duerson/7294596)

[XL5]

Is there something I am missing or is this card slightly overpriced?

1990 Score #238 - Dave Duerson - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Football/1990/Score/238/Dave_Duerson/7294596)

Nah, Duerson is way more popular than Kay. DD is a steal at $50. :)!
1990 Score #544 - Clarence Kay - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Football/1990/Score/544/Clarence_Kay/659000)

Ditto James Hasty.
1990 Score #288 - James Hasty - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Football/1990/Score/288/James_Hasty/658744)

And so on.
1990 Score Football Cards - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Football/1990/Score)



Honestly, I'm not sure if he's hoping for fat fingers or what. It looks like any 1990 Score FB base that he has the only copies of is at $50.

[SunDevil2422]

I just watched his "show" for the first time. He opened a pack of '99 Fleer Brilliants while driving to the gym. Not sure that is very smart.

[TheHeel]

Is there something I am missing or is this card slightly overpriced?

1990 Score #238 - Dave Duerson - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Football/1990/Score/238/Dave_Duerson/7294596)

I think he over prices to drive traffic to his port.

[dirtydistance]

Nah, Duerson is way more popular than Kay. DD is a steal at $50. :)!
1990 Score #544 - Clarence Kay - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Football/1990/Score/544/Clarence_Kay/659000)

Ditto James Hasty.
1990 Score #288 - James Hasty - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Football/1990/Score/288/James_Hasty/658744)

And so on.
1990 Score Football Cards - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Football/1990/Score)



Honestly, I'm not sure if he's hoping for fat fingers or what. It looks like any 1990 Score FB base that he has the only copies of is at $50.


You could probably buy a case of 1990 Score for the price of a couple of his cards

[SpastikMooss]

Seriously thinking this may become a strategy to be implemented periodically. I'll refrain from doing it daily, but it's interesting to say the least - and effective.

(2010 Bowman #2 Kevin Youkilis cards x10 previously priced at .11 each)
User 'joelshitshow' did not accept the $0.95 offer from your COMC.com account.
The $0.95 of pending funds has been added back to your available store credit.

Rejected, repriced at .28 - now can sneak mine in at .25

Yeah, it's childish - but it's entertaining.

It's just good strategy for us if he's gonna price that way.

[cking]

You could probably buy a case of 1990 Score for the price of a couple of his cards

I would rather wrestle an alligator then to sit down and bust an entire case of 1990 Score.

At least wrestling the alligator would be interesting.

[thebrett]

Can we discuss the logic behind his pricing possibly?

How does it make any sense?

There is no list of highest total ask to be at the top of, no way to make a reasonable offer on a card that is listed at $49.74 that is worth $2 because COMC won't allow an offer below $24.87 on that card. Doesn't appear to be inflated for a sale or a port sale...

I don't know the guy, but it seems... Seems dumb

[OLDPAPER]

Maybe he sells on Amazon and wants to make sure he gets at least 40 bucks....orrrrr he is just a dope.

[amazingpacks]

Can we discuss the logic behind his pricing possibly?

How does it make any sense?

There is no list of highest total ask to be at the top of, no way to make a reasonable offer on a card that is listed at $49.74 that is worth $2 because COMC won't allow an offer below $24.87 on that card. Doesn't appear to be inflated for a sale or a port sale...

I don't know the guy, but it seems... Seems dumb

Most likely "insurance" purposes. The single is not going to sell, might as well jack up the value of the port just in case something happens. :confused:

The guy is probably no dummy. if you see all his cards jacked up at anytime, something is going down. "conspiracy" theories, the new order. lol.

[OpethFlames]

The guys even got a fricking website, joelshitshow.com. Looks like he has a ton of time on his hands, seems to be a blogger of stupid stuff/things no one probably cares much about.

[bobthewondercat]

Just doing it to get attention would be my guess. And it's working! You know he's lurking here.

I only have 1,995 episodes of his web show to catch up on...

[Cactuspies]

I gotta ask, when he prices all his new base cards @ $50 each (you know 1000000x actual selling price), doesn't he have to pay extra fee's for that? Didn't they say in one of the blogs any new cards listed over $50 would have an additional listing fee?
What's the end game or the point? I wasn't too keen to the reply I got from Moe on my inquiry, but I'll leave it as it is.

[Swipe79]

He prices them at $49.74 or $49.75 to avoid the extra .50. He is a clever Richard...maybe.

I gotta ask, when he prices all his new base cards @ $50 each (you know 1000000x actual selling price), doesn't he have to pay extra fee's for that? Didn't they say in one of the blogs any new cards listed over $50 would have an additional listing fee?
What's the end game or the point? I wasn't too keen to the reply I got from Moe on my inquiry, but I'll leave it as it is.

[Cactuspies]

He prices them at $49.74 or $49.75 to avoid the extra .50. He is a clever Richard...maybe.

Ah, so I see the $50 on the main page so that includes the 0.25 shipping. clever cabeza. I have a great picture to add to this thread, I'll probably get a temp vaca for a few days, but I think it would be worth it. It will have to wait for home or mobile posting.

[brewcrew82]

I gotta ask, when he prices all his new base cards @ $50 each (you know 1000000x actual selling price), doesn't he have to pay extra fee's for that? Didn't they say in one of the blogs any new cards listed over $50 would have an additional listing fee?
What's the end game or the point? I wasn't too keen to the reply I got from Moe on my inquiry, but I'll leave it as it is.

There all listed in the Vault.:)!And COMC takes them to card shows!!

[amazingpacks]

He prices them at $49.74 or $49.75 to avoid the extra .50. He is a clever Richard...maybe.

If comc gets flooded or hacked. Joels is going to be a rich man!. His "supposedly" insured cards will be paid big time. :)!

Interesting.

Another perk for pricing cards extra high on comc. go figure.

[Swipe79]

Based on my previous experience working in the insurance industry, I'm pretty sure he will get market value on those...the insurance company doesn't pay based on what you think your items are worth. If I total my truck, they cut me a check for what they believe a reasonable market value would be, not the $500,000 I claim that it is worth.

If comc gets flooded or hacked. Joels is going to be a rich man!. His "supposedly" insured cards will be paid big time. :)!

Interesting.

Another perk for pricing cards extra high on comc. go figure.

[amazingpacks]

Based on my previous experience working in the insurance industry, I'm pretty sure he will get market value on those...the insurance company doesn't pay based on what you think your items are worth. If I total my truck, they cut me a check for what they believe a reasonable market value would be, not the $500,000 I claim that it is worth.

He might be able to claim replacement cost. $1.00+$3.00(shipping) per common, Comc Insertion fees and what not.

WHO knows if the port is even covered and what for. I am pretty sure comc is covered.

Would be a good topic to know what are we actually covered for.:confused:

[jmscoggin]

He might be able to claim replacement cost. $1.00+$3.00(shipping) per common, Comc Insertion fees and what not.

WHO knows if the port is even covered and what for. I am pretty sure comc is covered.

Would be a good topic to know what are we actually covered for.:confused:

Good luck, I've asked this question multiple times and never received an answer. I even asked Moe while on a phone call what happens to my cards if COMC goes kaput. He acted like he had never been asked the question before. He said that he would check into it and get me an answer but I don't recall that an answer was ever given. It has been asked in many of these threads as well and it has never been addressed by COMC.

My thoughts are that our cards are not COMC assets therefore not subject to seizure under a bankruptcy but they would be tied up until we could establish standing. How we would actually get them back into our possession or what steps we would need to take to prove they are ours and not COMC's is where my concerns lie. With each passing day these questions are becoming more relevant and pressing.

[thebrett]

The Vault... Haha... Does anyone remember when Pepsi made Clear Pepsi?

Basically the same result

[jmscoggin]

The Vault... Haha... Does anyone remember when Pepsi made Clear Pepsi?

Basically the same result

I remember those threads so clearly too. A small minority of us ripped the idea and were attacked by all of the COMC homers. Don't get me wrong, I was still a fan boy at the time but I don't do blind loyalty and am able to separate my like of something and being able to be critical of it at the same time. Same thing with the decision to charge more more $50 + cards. What mental midget decided it was a good idea to penalize customers that were going to add higher end product to COMC? Even if the submission takes a couple of seconds longer to do than a base card, the benefit of having cards on site that will draw in traffic and word of mouth is well worth that time for COMC. Or so one would think. It was such an obvious money grab.

[cardsrus1]

I remember those threads so clearly too. A small minority of us ripped the idea and were attacked by all of the COMC homers. Don't get me wrong, I was still a fan boy at the time but I don't do blind loyalty and am able to separate my like of something and being able to be critical of it at the same time. Same thing with the decision to charge more more $50 + cards. What mental midget decided it was a good idea to penalize customers that were going to add higher end product to COMC? Even if the submission takes a couple of seconds longer to do than a base card, the benefit of having cards on site that will draw in traffic and word of mouth is well worth that time for COMC. Or so one would think. It was such an obvious money grab.

I agreed with the highlighted part... then seeing a certain seller listing 10 cent commons for $50 made me understand why they did it. It is very clear that COMC have their priorities backwards. They are too afraid to let a seller know when they are doing something wrong and at the same time they will ignore a seller that calls them out for their own mistakes.

[37Jetson]

They are too afraid to let a seller know when they are doing something wrong and at the same time they will ignore a seller that calls them out for their own mistakes.

Very true! Look how long they let that lame brainette TheDivaHalley behave like she did.

The Vault... Haha... Does anyone remember when Pepsi made Clear Pepsi?

Basically the same result

Instead of the Vault COMC should have simply offered an immediate rebate (7-10% range) for any card that sold over $25 (or pick a similar threshold). They could have instantly become more competitive than Ebay. It was an opportunity lost and they ended up with their 20% on under $1.00 cards when they could have become a juggernaut for higher dollar cards.

[jmscoggin]

I agreed with the highlighted part... then seeing a certain seller listing 10 cent commons for $50 made me understand why they did it. It is very clear that COMC have their priorities backwards. They are too afraid to let a seller know when they are doing something wrong and at the same time they will ignore a seller that calls them out for their own mistakes.

That is not the excuse they used though. They said that $50 cards take longer to process so the extra time and scrutiny should cost more to submit. Hell, they aren't scrutinizing any cards it seems. Most of my stuff goes through with wrong or missing data regardless of item value. I will never understand the 'logic' of penalizing higher quality from coming in.

[cardsrus1]

That is not the excuse they used though. They said that $50 cards take longer to process so the extra time and scrutiny should cost more to submit. Hell, they aren't scrutinizing any cards it seems. Most of my stuff goes through with wrong or missing data regardless of item value. I will never understand the 'logic' of penalizing higher quality from coming in.

Well they could not say it was to prevent some tool sellers from trying to gouge uninformed buyers. For all we know the spit show could be doing it as a protest to the extra charge, history says otherwise but we do not know since he no longer posts here. I do know as a matter of fact that they do want every card that gets listed at $100 or more done express so they can easily store it in a more secure area.

[fezziwig]

Isn't he doing this on commons that he had the only copy on site of? If so, it must be to take advantage of the Amazon searches by grandmothers, nephews, and washed out pros. I have a couple duplicates that will be processed in the near future, and i'll be interested to see how soft JSS is on his prices.

[amazingpacks]

beginning to think joel is reading this and laughing.

[37Jetson]

Normally Joelshitshow does not bother me that much, but when I was trying to finish up some sets I got really torqued with all of his $49.75 prices. It just makes COMC look bad.

beginning to think joel is reading this and laughing.

You know that he is. That is what little men do.

[mrwalken]

Isn't he doing this on commons that he had the only copy on site of? If so, it must be to take advantage of the Amazon searches by grandmothers, nephews, and washed out pros. I have a couple duplicates that will be processed in the near future, and i'll be interested to see how soft JSS is on his prices.

They didn't used to let you price cards above 10x book. JSS is taking advantage of the lack of BV on the site. I hope Dave Duerson's grandma doesn't shell out $50 for his 90 score card.

[sjscout]

They didn't used to let you price cards above 10x book. JSS is taking advantage of the lack of BV on the site. I hope Dave Duerson's grandma doesn't shell out $50 for his 90 score card.

Yeah i just saw a 2013 eric kratz card listed for fifty, i clicked on it and he had 8 copiees all at the same price.

I am unsure what criteria is used to determine when COMC highlights cards under "Recently added" under the main page, but i saw a bunch of his 49.75 commons show up there....

[Swipe79]

I'll point out that inflating the prices on those cards also pushes him up into the Top Sellers section as a top consigner. Maybe it's his way of advertising his port. Maybe he's getting ready to sell his port.

[OLDPAPER]

I'll point out that inflating the prices on those cards also pushes him up into the Top Sellers section as a top consigner. Maybe it's his way of advertising his port. Maybe he's getting ready to sell his port.

Maybe he is just a jackass that is hurting the site and the hobby. They are his cards and he can price them however he wants...but it is just insane to send junk cards in and then price them where nobody would every buy them unless you are up to something sinister.

[Swipe79]

There is that possibility as well.

Maybe he is just a jackass that is hurting the site and the hobby.

[amazingpacks]

comc should just drop all these "gimmicks"(promotions, classifieds,sales,blah blah). Only the people that take advantage of the system use them to screw around . Just have regular pricing with no sales and gimmicks. Simple card site like it started as. Fun and different.

[Cactuspies]

comc should just drop all these "gimmicks"(promotions, classifieds,sales,blah blah). Only the people that take advantage of the system use them to screw around . Just have regular pricing with no sales and gimmicks. Simple card site like it started as. Fun and different.

I know you can't see or hear, but a slow clap is being done for this post. a slow clap emotion thingy would be a perfect addition.

in a nut shell when I reported some of JHS base card pricing, this is the answer in part:

...customers are able to price how they see fit. we don't have a lot of control over the prices set...we can suggest they adjust if there is a lot of feedback about them...

there is also a seller kane (not sure if it's the same kane who is here) who over prices many many cards. I had a couple of matching cards that I couldn't get $3 for but he/she had the same ones at $700. (and that was before BV went bye bye)

[37Jetson]

I know you can't see or hear, but a slow clap is being done for this post. a slow clap emotion thingy would be a perfect addition.

in a nut shell when I reported some of JHS base card pricing, this is the answer in part:

...customers are able to price how they see fit. we don't have a lot of control over the prices set...we can suggest they adjust if there is a lot of feedback about them...

there is also a seller kane (not sure if it's the same kane who is here) who over prices many many cards. I had a couple of matching cards that I couldn't get $3 for but he/she had the same ones at $700. (and that was before BV went bye bye)

COMC is way too afraid to ruffle feathers. JSS' crap needs to stop. It is used to be 5X book value as the limit at which you could price a card. He is doing it for free exposure (placement on top consignors list and showing up on newly added cards) and to be the little man that he is.

As I said before TheDivaHalley was an absolute idiot that COMC refused to rebuke. I sent a few messages pleading my case about her crapping impacting the image of COMC and in turn my businees, but I got nothing but the run around from COMC.

[cardsrus1]

COMC is way too afraid to ruffle feathers. JSS' crap needs to stop. It is used to be 5X book value as the limit at which you could price a card. He is doing it for free exposure (placement on top consignors list and showing up on newly added cards) and to be the little man that he is.

As I said before TheDivaHalley was an absolute idiot that COMC refused to rebuke. I sent a few messages pleading my case about her crapping impacting the image of COMC and in turn my businees, but I got nothing but the run around from COMC.

His pricing does not do anything for the top 10 lists, those are now based on quantity since there is no longer a "book" value. His cards are appearing on the main page, which is obviously much more concerning.

[NeilCO]

I just watched the Youtube video for the first time. I forgive most of his sins because he calls it Joel Sh** Show himself. Fantastic.

[glen87]

I KNEW IT
I KNEW IT
I KNEW IT

have only myself to blame.

i was interested in listed at $5.25, made an offer and now it is $20.25

[SpastikMooss]

Found him for the first time as a buyer...luckily I already own this card.

All Items matching: rod smart - COMC Online Marketplace (http://www.comc.com/Cards,=rod+smart,tn)

Hint: It's not the green variation.

[amazingpacks]

which is the more rare? Green or blue? red is common right?
i got them all, might need to adjust prices.
amazingpacks's All Items matching: 2004 tradition - COMC Online Marketplace (http://www.comc.com/Users/amazingpacks,vList,+2004+tradition,tn)

[SpastikMooss]

which is the more rare? Green or blue? red is common right?
i got them all, might need to adjust prices.
amazingpacks's All Items matching: 2004 tradition - COMC Online Marketplace (http://www.comc.com/Users/amazingpacks,vList,+2004+tradition,tn)

They're about equally likely, no real rarity difference. Each rarer than the base, but otherwise equal.

I bought the blue, including shipping, for $1.05 on COMC a while back haha. It was the last one...guess JSS decided to reset the market with his new Smart blue!

[dirtydistance]

Hehateshow

[OLDPAPER]

I just took a gander at his you tube page.....it is all coming together for me now....he just seems like the kind of guy that would price 1990 score commons at $50....

[amazingpacks]

I just took a gander at his you tube page.....it is all coming together for me now....he just seems like the kind of guy that would price 1990 score commons at $50....

He is only 10x thick skinned then comc which priced them at $5 . :D:D:D

[NickM]

I've bought from him before. I just can't get over the reading the name as Joel Sh!t Show though.

+1 (to the 2nd sentence - I have never bought from him)

[SpastikMooss]

I was looking at Thaddeus Lewis cards tonight...his most expensive card is - you guessed it - a JSS card.

Granted it's /10, but if an autograph /99 is $39.75, a base parallel /10 should not be $72.90. More than double the prices of the Tony Romo on the site, not to mention all the other backup QBs in the $3-10 range.

[amazingpacks]

I was looking at Thaddeus Lewis cards tonight...his most expensive card is - you guessed it - a JSS card.

Granted it's /10, but if an autograph /99 is $39.75, a base parallel /10 should not be $72.90. More than double the prices of the Tony Romo on the site, not to mention all the other backup QBs in the $3-10 range.

Its fun reading his posts on the comc blog.

[dherm360]

I was interested in the Juan Nieves 1986 Donruss rookie for 50.00

[amazingpacks]

I was interested in the Juan Nieves 1986 Donruss rookie for 50.00

Why settle for 2nd?
go for this one instead its an insert.
blackstone46's 1999-00 Upper Deck HoloGrFX NBA 24-7 #N15 - Karl Malone - COMC Online Marketplace (http://www.comc.com/Users/blackstone46/Cards/Basketball/1999-00/Upper_Deck_HoloGrFX_NBA_24-7/N15/Karl_Malone/1518378)

[SpastikMooss]

Why settle for 2nd?
go for this one instead its an insert.
blackstone46's 1999-00 Upper Deck HoloGrFX NBA 24-7 #N15 - Karl Malone - COMC Online Marketplace (http://www.comc.com/Users/blackstone46/Cards/Basketball/1999-00/Upper_Deck_HoloGrFX_NBA_24-7/N15/Karl_Malone/1518378)

Holy poop...

OkCupid | blackstone46 / 20 / M / Columbus, Ohio (http://www.okcupid.com/profile/blackstone46?cf=profile_similar)

[ManInTheMirror]

2013 Topps Finest #27 - J.J. Watt - COMC Online Marketplace (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Football/2013/Topps_Finest/27/JJ_Watt/6766497)

edit: And there is proof he reads this thread. He removed both of his $30+ copies.

[Cactuspies]

some funny blog posts I ran across for the black friday stuff. some card was priced close to $300 yet the other one listed was priced at $5. he then changed it. so many sweet 1992 score base cards for $49.75!

http://www.comc.com/Users/JoelsHitShow,+1992,p1

Black Friday Weekend Contest | COMC Blog (http://blog.comc.com/2014/11/27/black-friday-weekend-contest/#comments)

between him and TAAA arrrgh

[OLDPAPER]

The guy loves the attention that he gets...why else would he have a you tube channel....I would suggest just let him suffer in obscurity and keep our opinions of him off this site...it just drives traffic to his page and encourages him to be more of a PITA.

He is only hurting himself because many of us will never buy from him even if the card is reasonably priced...I have purposely paid more for a card to not buy from him and buy it from someone else.

[cardsrus1]

JoelsHitShow's All Items matching: 1992 - COMC Online Marketplace (http://www.comc.com/Users/JoelsHitShow,+1992,p1)

Black Friday Weekend Contest | COMC Blog (http://blog.comc.com/2014/11/27/black-friday-weekend-contest/#comments)

between him and TAAA arrrgh

I find Tony's post hilarious. His hate of PayPal, BO, Beckett, Ebay .... is legendary!http://www.gifmix.net/3d-smileys/bad-3d-smilies/0025.gif (http://www.gifmix.net/3d-smileys/)

[VeedonFleece]

I've only just noticed amazingpacks is banned. Anyone know the story?

[Dragonman]

I find Tony's post hilarious. His hate of PayPal, BO, Beckett, Ebay .... is legendary!http://www.gifmix.net/3d-smileys/bad-3d-smilies/0025.gif (http://www.gifmix.net/3d-smileys/)

He is one of those people that has a problem with everyone and everything......He wants everyone to thing he is a big fish but is just a little grain of sand.

[chezball]

I've only just noticed amazingpacks is banned. Anyone know the story?

he was a PBM.

[37Jetson]

I've only just noticed amazingpacks is banned. Anyone know the story?

He was h4auto

[sabrgeek]

I find Tony's post hilarious. His hate of PayPal, BO, Beckett, Ebay .... is legendary!http://www.gifmix.net/3d-smileys/bad-3d-smilies/0025.gif (http://www.gifmix.net/3d-smileys/)

You have no idea as to the depth of Tony's hatred.

[Cactuspies]

He was h4auto

wow, I called that ages ago and he said they were just friends. I thought he got banned for just being stupid on here (the ebola thread and his love of high paying airline jobs)

time to find that post to gloat! :flex:

[ekillian]

2017 and JoelShitShow is still doing the same crap. He pulled that move on me with a '94 Finest common. Big turn off. Now I keep noticing he has random commons listed for $15 - 25 routinely. I just want COMC to filter his results out. If that how he wants to do business then that's great. No hard feelings. I just never want to purchase from him.

[chezball]

2017 and JoelShitShow is still doing the same crap. He pulled that move on me with a '94 Finest common. Big turn off. Now I keep noticing he has random commons listed for $15 - 25 routinely. I just want COMC to filter his results out. If that how he wants to do business then that's great. No hard feelings. I just never want to purchase from him.

Nice first post and bumping a three year old thread.:doh:

[ekillian]

I lurked 7 years for this moment.

[3124508 on COMC]

I lurked 7 years for this moment.

That's how you know JSS is a major Richard. ;)

[Boo]

Second account anyone?

[3124508 on COMC]

Second account anyone?

No COMC username linked. :coffee::coffee::coffee:

[iplumb1963]

cant believe people complain about having to pay an extra $.50 or a $1.00 for a card they want or need....baffles my mind

[Swipe79]

What does this have to do with JSS?

cant believe people complain about having to pay an extra $.50 or a $1.00 for a card they want or need....baffles my mind

[3124508 on COMC]

What does this have to do with JSS?

Nothing, because with JSS it's an extra $49.50.

[Budler]

cant believe people complain about having to pay an extra $.50 or a $1.00 for a card they want or need....baffles my mind

It adds up when you are buying 100s of cards.

[JustMoe]

OMG, this thread...I had totally forgotten about it.

When it first started, I was still in the COMC ID department and the guy who was monitoring the forums and such came up to our section of the building and asked, with all the innocence in the world, "Hey guys, does calling someone a 'Richard' means anything to collectors?"

This was the same guy who was proud of the fact that he didn't have a tv, didn't watch sports, and thought articles about Tennis would make the COMC blog irresistible to readers... good times, great memories...

[youseekyoda421]

Well, I made the mistake of offering $30 for a card priced at $45. The card doesn't come up for sale often, but the last two eBay sales were $30.

And the offer was immediately rejected and the price raised to $150.

I must just be dense. Apparently offering eBay prices is lowballing.

[Swipe79]

You're just dealing with a Richard is all.

[Budler]

Well, I made the mistake of offering $30 for a card priced at $45. The card doesn't come up for sale often, but the last two eBay sales were $30.

And the offer was immediately rejected and the price raised to $150.

I must just be dense. Apparently offering eBay prices is lowballing.

He does it all the time. I have purchased a few cards form him. I do not think he will sell me a card any more after what I did.

He has a lot of cards I need. His lowest offer allowed is a little higher then what I'm want to pay. So I once made $60.00 worth of offers at his lowest. Would have done more but that is all I have in my account. (lot of his $3.00 cards) He made one counter offer of for $2.99 and there was a card listed at $2.50. The others he rejected and raised them to $12.00 or more.

Then I went in and put in error reports of too high of a price on about 100 cards he had. He is a card!!!!

[duwal]

He does it all the time. I have purchased a few cards form him. I do not think he will sell me a card any more after what I did.

He has a lot of cards I need. His lowest offer allowed is a little higher then what I'm want to pay. So I once made $60.00 worth of offers at his lowest. Would have done more but that is all I have in my account. (lot of his $3.00 cards) He made one counter offer of for $2.99 and there was a card listed at $2.50. The others he rejected and raised them to $12.00 or more.

Then I went in and put in error reports of too high of a price on about 100 cards he had. He is a card!!!!

Sounds like people should start making low ball offers on items to see if he hikes up his prices and gets no sales at all

[Uwfootball1]

He's always been pretty fair to me, but I supercollect B.J Ryan not exactly marketable cards except to me.

[Budler]

Boy I blow it and give in!!! I give him a dollar. I guest that is how he make his money.

Story:
base card he had it for 2.75 the only one
silver parallel his for 1.00 and other guy had one for 2.75
gold parallel his for 2.75 an other guy had one for .95

I had the base (purchased for .45 or less, years ago) I purchased the silver from him and the gold from the other guy. These are the cards you see at shows in the dime and quarter boxes. I just can not find them except here and have been watching for a long time and 1.00 is the lowest I have seen them.

[Blue_Devil]

Sounds like people should start making low ball offers on items to see if he hikes up his prices and gets no sales at all

I looked through his prices the other day. Has a ton of cards at 50 dollars. I have no idea or way of even trying to understand how he runs his account. What is the purpose in having a ton of cards listed that you have absolutely no chance of selling?

[3124508 on COMC]

I looked through his prices the other day. Has a ton of cards at 50 dollars. I have no idea or way of even trying to understand how he runs his account. What is the purpose in having a ton of cards listed that you have absolutely no chance of selling?

Some will try to rationalize it, but ultimately, there's no IQ test required to open a COMC account.

[checkoutmydeals]

He's stated in the past that he uses 49.50 as a signpost price. If he gets in a bunch of stuff, he temporarily prices it at 49.50 and then later he can look at everything he has listed at 49.50 and change the price.

I think the signpost price used to be $99.75, which hacked people off even more. But COMC now charges people a surcharge to price anything above $49.75, so that's why it's $49.50.

[Swipe79]

It also inflates your port value and makes it look like you're a high roller on the leaderboard. I don't know if I believe his signpost price...

He's stated in the past that he uses 49.50 as a signpost price. If he gets in a bunch of stuff, he temporarily prices it at 49.50 and then later he can look at everything he has listed at 49.50 and change the price.

I think the signpost price used to be $99.75, which hacked people off even more. But COMC now charges people a surcharge to price anything above $49.75, so that's why it's $49.50.

[Blue_Devil]

It also inflates your port value and makes it look like you're a high roller on the leaderboard. I don't know if I believe his signpost price...

That's more in line with what I am thinking. Inflating the port value for whatever reason. To each his own I guess and the flip side is that having a port that size would present logistical nightmares I can't fathom with my measley 700 card port. But still, if you have the time to price them at 49.75 wouldn't you have just as much time to price them at a number they might actually sell at? :doh:

[hofs4u]

It also inflates your port value and makes it look like you're a high roller on the leaderboard. I don't know if I believe his signpost price...

Actually, I don't think that's true. Aren't the leader boards based on the only thing less accurate than JSS's pricing . . . namely COMC SRP?

[Swipe79]

It is, but it seems like COMC substitutes your prices for SRP when a card has no SRP. If you sort your port by SRP, the top cards are likely ones without SRP.

Actually, I don't think that's true. Aren't the leader boards based on the only thing less accurate than JSS's pricing . . . namely COMC SRP?

[checkoutmydeals]

It is, but it seems like COMC substitutes your prices for SRP when a card has no SRP. If you sort your port by SRP, the top cards are likely ones without SRP.

No. The SRP of the port is the combined SRP of all cards with SRP. If a card has no SRP, it counts as 0 for the port value on the leader boards.

[Swipe79]

Good to know. Which makes me wonder why it sorts by price (if no SRP) and not SRP when you ask it to sort by SRP.

It is, but it seems like COMC substitutes your prices for SRP when a card has no SRP. If you sort your port by SRP, the top cards are likely ones without SRP.

No. The SRP of the port is the combined SRP of all cards with SRP. If a card has no SRP, it counts as 0 for the port value on the leader boards.

[checkoutmydeals]

The whole site is old code piled on top of old code. In the old days, SRP was Beckett Price, and the vast majority of cards had a Beckett price of some sort. Most of the cards which had no Beckett price were either oddball cards or stuff that was too scarce for Beckett to price. If you had a 1 of 1 Michael Jordan card priced at $100, it seemed reasonable to group that in with the items with a Beckett value of $100, rather than the stuff with a Beckett value of $0.

[gradedeflator]

dealing with this last few weeks. i offer 85% of his asking, and then the price jacks up to 3x.

[mjohnatgt]

Stop making offers to him then.

[Budler]

I have gotten to the point where I think he does not care if he sells any cards. He just gets a kick out of doing it.

There are a few others at do it also.

[sthoemke]

It is, but it seems like COMC substitutes your prices for SRP when a card has no SRP. If you sort your port by SRP, the top cards are likely ones without SRP.

I think the SPR displays when a card has shipped 5 times. If it has shipped less than 5 times, it has an SRP, but the SRP isn't displayed.

[JustMoe]

I think the SPR displays when a card has shipped 5 times. If it has shipped less than 5 times, it has an SRP, but the SRP isn't displayed.

That's correct...a card has to sell *and* ship from the warehouse on 5 separate sales for the system to generate a SRP. Until then, it's not even a consideration.

[Bowman1951]

I have gotten to the point where I think he does not care if he sells any cards. He just gets a kick out of doing it.

There are a few others at do it also.I actually came here to make a post about him. Not necessarily to defend him, but I've seen his core prices come down a bunch recently and he is often the lowest priced now on a bunch of cards I've been looking at. Here is just one example but there are others.

https://www.comc.com/Cards/Baseball/2015/Topps_-_Base/6001/Albert_Pujols_(Running)/10445837

You can't really count the ones with condition notes lower than him.

[adamdavidson47]

Anytime someone calls someone a Richard it makes me giggle.