View Full Version : If someone promises to buy something then backs out should they get a negative?
maggliofan01
08-30-2013, 09:34 PM
Guy said he wanted a couple cards off me I was trying to sell and he asked me to hold them for him until today, so I did. Then today I message him and ask if he still wanted them and he said I was pressuring him into buying them. (Maybe I worded the message wrong, but was not meant to sound pressuring).
So if they ask you to he something then back out, should you give them a negative, or something warning other sellers since he is new? Or just let it go because he is new? I don't want to be rude but I could have sold them by now and needed the $$? Opinions without being to mean?
drob50
08-30-2013, 09:37 PM
Personally I would give them a friendly heads up that others won't be as forgiving as you.
maggliofan01
08-30-2013, 09:39 PM
Here was my pressuring message, he said he would pay me today
5:30 and no money? You still want those or not?
It was not in bold just highlighting. And I left my Paypal address again after the message
tristan20
08-30-2013, 09:57 PM
Nothing should be held without a downpayment.
Verbal agreements are as good as no agreement.
Krayzie83
08-30-2013, 10:40 PM
It's certainly annoying.. Had a guy on here (different sport though) who asked me to wait a few days for payment only to find out he was waiting on an auction of the same card to end to see if he could get it cheaper.. Lost a good deal of respect for him and cash on the card (passed on a higher offer a few days later to honor our "deal") but did not neg him.. Curious to see what others say and if I'm in the minority here..
Mires
08-31-2013, 01:01 AM
Here was my pressuring message, he said he would pay me today
5:30 and no money? You still want those or not?
It was not in bold just highlighting. And I left my Paypal address again after the message
You got kind of a pushy tone there, and 5:30 isn't the end of the day. I don't get off till 6:00 so I don't do any personal business till after. Then again, he did answer your message.
montej1695
08-31-2013, 01:18 AM
It happens, but has he completely backed away from the deal?
I would still give him the opportunity to go through with the purchase.
jerryw
08-31-2013, 02:11 AM
a promise and a dollar will get ya a cup of coffee at the local gas station lol
407ufgators
08-31-2013, 10:01 AM
You don't want to get caught holding, so don't sell options. By that I mean, if the deal is not struck, let them know that you're also actively looking for a buyer as well.
ExAreSee
08-31-2013, 11:15 AM
i once found a real nice pair of socks at a store, i told the store owner hold them for me a couple days since i have no cash. i never returned. i think the store sold the socks and after a week the owner never thought of me again.
EMD34
08-31-2013, 11:22 AM
It's pretty lame, but it's happened to me a few times and I have never left a negative for it. I think negatives should only be given if someone tries to scam you or something like that, but that's just like my opinion, man.
maggliofan01
08-31-2013, 04:03 PM
You don't want to get caught holding, so don't sell options. By that I mean, if the deal is not struck, let them know that you're also actively looking for a buyer as well.
He said he really wanted them very badly so I was trying to let him have the opportunity to get them.
I didn't actively try to sell them but I have asked people to wait for me also so I understand sometimes you need some time
But I never have backed out I don't think.
He said he would pay and the 5:30 comment back was just letting him know I hadn't heard back from him all day - I completely understand the day wasn't over. Honestly I was driving and didn't really want to type much -
maggliofan01
08-31-2013, 04:07 PM
It's pretty lame, but it's happened to me a few times and I have never left a negative for it. I think negatives should only be given if someone tries to scam you or something like that, but that's just like my opinion, man.
That's why I was asking opinions, he is new so I should give him a break but I am going to warn him others here may not
Be so nice
jbarnett83
08-31-2013, 04:41 PM
i once found a real nice pair of socks at a store, i told the store owner hold them for me a couple days since i have no cash. i never returned. i think the store sold the socks and after a week the owner never thought of me again.
^^This is a terrible example. Socks don't depreciate like cards do.
I had sold a card to a member on here for $75. I even gave him a deal because he said he supercollected the player. He said that we could lock in a deal and he would pay the following week. 3 weeks later no payment/response even though he was still buying in the b/s/t section. 4 weeks later I sold the card on eBay for $14.
I started a thread in the member feedback section asking opinions and everybody said I should neg him to warn others. Long story short I gave him a neg and he returned one as well in retaliation. After about a week of headaches I was able to get my neg removed.
Its your choice whether to neg or not but there are a lot of members on here who may get upset if you don't warn others. If you do decide to neg make sure you keep all messages sent/received and be prepared for retaliation from the member.
tristan20
08-31-2013, 04:55 PM
There is absolutely no obligation if nothing was exchanged.
Next time get a down payment, that is the way to do business.
If you go on someone's word then you will have a tough time going through life.
maggliofan01
08-31-2013, 05:10 PM
There is absolutely no obligation if nothing was exchanged.
Next time get a down payment, that is the way to do business.
If you go on someone's word then you will have a tough time going through life.
Yeah I understand that but I give everyone the benefit of the doubt once. The worse part was I really needed the $$ for this weekend
gamboooler
08-31-2013, 05:38 PM
No, you shouldn't leave a negative if someone just asks for you to hold the cards for them and then they don't pay. There is no deal in place unless there's more to go off of. If they say, "I will take them and pay for them tomorrow," and you send them notification of acceptance, then yes, you can and should leave them negative if they don't pay.
crazymj
08-31-2013, 05:52 PM
i feel if they agreed to buy a card and promise to send payment later, then instead decide to cancel, it warrants a negative just like an unpaying winner on ebay (even tho ironically u're not allowed to leave negative on non paying bidders lol)
I mean if not, then i can verbally say i'll buy a lot of different cards (especilaly a new product), have the owner hold them for me, and then i can wait around and see if they sell for more or less on ebay, and then decide to pay or not.
r00kie
08-31-2013, 06:38 PM
Agree with crazymj. I don't believe in holding a card. First $$ to my PayPal gets the card...keep it simple and avoids these type of situations.
TheHeel
08-31-2013, 06:44 PM
Neg him up.
mavsfan
08-31-2013, 06:53 PM
I would also say neg him. Have had this happen a few times, try to be nice, hold it then the value depreciates.
maggliofan01
09-01-2013, 12:52 AM
No, you shouldn't leave a negative if someone just asks for you to hold the cards for them and then they don't pay. There is no deal in place unless there's more to go off of. If they say, "I will take them and pay for them tomorrow," and you send them notification of acceptance, then yes, you can and should leave them negative if they don't pay.
Well he def told me he wanted them and would pay me on Friday when he got paid. I feel an obligation to other BO members to let them know but at the same time he has 0 Itrader and I don't want him to start off on a negative
crazymj
09-01-2013, 01:03 AM
Well he def told me he wanted them and would pay me on Friday when he got paid. I feel an obligation to other BO members to let them know but at the same time he has 0 Itrader and I don't want him to start off on a negative
Ok, don't negative, just let us know the username so when we deal with him in the future, we know not to hold cards. Cause i hold cards all the time since i've dealt with many members before and i have held cards for weeks to even month. And would hate to hold something so long and then have the person backout
gamboooler
09-01-2013, 01:03 AM
Well he def told me he wanted them and would pay me on Friday when he got paid. I feel an obligation to other BO members to let them know but at the same time he has 0 Itrader and I don't want him to start off on a negative
If he said the words "I will take them" and you sent some sort of acceptance, then he deserves a negative if he doesn't pay. If he said, "I get paid Friday, can you hold them for me until then?" and you said you could, then he doesn't deserve a negative. There's a difference between the two. I don't know which one more closely resembles the communication you had with the guy, but one deserves a neg and the other does not. There has to be some sort of definite and explicit agreement.
maggliofan01
09-01-2013, 04:36 AM
He said he really wanted them badly then he said this
"I get paid on Friday that's my only
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