11&12 Class Top 10 Rookies in 5 years?

[andy09]

Who will be the Top 10 Rookies from 11 & 12 class in 5 years? need ur opinion.

[andy09]

Here is my list:

1. Irving
2. Ant Davis
3. Lillard
4. Kawhi Leonard
5. Drummond
6. Harrison Barnes
7. Beal
8. Kemba Walker
9. Faried
10. Tobias Harris or Klay Thompson

[NewVintageNY]

Kyrie
Lillard
Jonas
Drummond
Anthony Davis
Tobias
Kawhi
Faried
Parsons
Kanter
Kamba
Beal
Harrison Barnes
Henson
In no particular order. There are guys like
Harkless shumpert donatas tjones tross and vucevic I like as well

[NewVintageNY]

Also Klay Thompson

[NewVintageNY]

Here is my list:

1. Irving
2. Ant Davis
3. Lillard
4. Kawhi Leonard
5. Drummond
6. Harrison Barnes
7. Beal
8. Kemba Walker
9. Faried
10. Tobias Harris or Klay Thompson

Jonas Valanciunas is easily top 6 over Barnes beal kemba

[The Fluffy]

klay Thompson Kenneth Faried Thomas Robinson kyrie Irving Anthony Davis harrson Barnes Chandler Parsons kawhi and Jared Sullinger. Not in order.

[The Fluffy]

Oops forgot kemba lillard Beal and Drummond.

[bullrose23]

I don't care who you knock off but someone has to go to fit jimmy butler in there :)

[majesticsig6]

Vucevic and shumpert also!

[EMD34]

Assuming there are no injuries (I probably forgot a player or two)

1. Anthony Davis 23PPG 12.5RPG 3BLKs
2. Kyrie Irving 26.5PPG 7Ast. 1.5Stls
3. Andre Drummond 16.5PPG 14RPG 3BLKs
4. Damain Lillard 21PPG 6Ast. 1Stl
5. Nikola Vucevic 15PPG 14RPG 1BLK
6. Chandler Parsons 17.5PPG 6.5RPG 5Ast.
7. Kawhi Leonard 16PPG 7.5RPG 2Stls
8. Klay Thompson 21PPG 3.5RPG 1Stl
9. Enes Kanter 15PPG 10.5RPG 2BLks
10. Jonas Valanciunas (Has potential to be as high as 3, but could also be a bust) 16PPG 8.5RPG 2BLKs
11. Kenneth Faried 11PPG 11RPG 1BLk
12. Jimmy Butler 15.5PPG 6RPG 1.5Stls
13. Harrison Barnes 14PPG 7RPG 2.5Ast
14. Bradley Beal 17.5PPG 5RPG 1Stl
15. Kemba Walker 14.5PPG 6.5Ast 2Stls

EDIT: Added stats

[airball]

1. Irving
2. Ant Davis
3. Lillard
4. Kawhi Leonard
5. Drummond
6. Harrison Barnes
7. Beal
8. Valanciunas
9. Chandler Parsons
10. Klay Thompson

[Bruvydsb]

There will most certainly be a player (or 2) to emerge unexpectedly. Possibilities include Crowder, Nicholson, D.Green, Lamb(s), etc...

[NewVintageNY]

Assuming there are no injuries (I probably forgot a player or two)

1. Anthony Davis 23PPG 12.5RPG 3BLKs
2. Kyrie Irving 26.5PPG 7Ast. 1.5Stls
3. Andre Drummond 16.5PPG 14RPG 3BLKs
4. Damain Lillard 21PPG 6Ast. 1Stl
5. Nikola Vucevic 15PPG 14RPG 1BLK
6. Chandler Parsons 17.5PPG 6.5RPG 5Ast.
7. Kawhi Leonard 16PPG 7.5RPG 2Stls
8. Klay Thompson 21PPG 3.5RPG 1Stl
9. Enes Kanter 15PPG 10.5RPG 2BLks
10. Jonas Valanciunas (Has potential to be as high as 3, but could also be a bust) 16PPG 8.5RPG 2BLKs
11. Kenneth Faried 11PPG 11RPG 1BLk
12. Jimmy Butler 15.5PPG 6RPG 1.5Stls
13. Harrison Barnes 14PPG 7RPG 2.5Ast
14. Bradley Beal 17.5PPG 5RPG 1Stl
15. Kemba Walker 14.5PPG 6.5Ast 2Stls

EDIT: Added stats

Beal is 4 years younger than Butler. By the time Beal is 24 (Butlers age) Butler will be 28. Beal has much higher upside.

Jonas bust potential? Have you seen him play? Please explain how this guy can be a bust. He's a more sure thing than Andre Drummond who I am also very high on.

Parsons of Kawhi? Kawhi is an ELITE defender. Parsons is a better shooter but that is about it. Every GM in the league would take Kawhi over Parsons. Kawhi is also 22 and Parsons is approaching 25.

Every GM in the league would take Beal over Jimmy Butler and it's not close. I like Jimmy Butler but let's be realistic.

1. Anthony Davis 23PPG 12.5RPG 3BLKs
2. Kyrie Irving 26.5PPG 7Ast. 1.5Stls
3. Jonas Valanciunas 16PPG 8.5RPG 2BLKs
4. Andre Drummond 16.5PPG 14RPG 3BLKs
5. Kawhi Leonard 16PPG 7.5RPG 2Stls
6. Bradley Beal 17.5PPG 5RPG 1Stl
7. Damain Lillard 21PPG 6Ast. 1Stll (great player but high usage padded his stats)
8. Enes Kanter 15PPG 10.5RPG 2BLks
9. Nikola Vucevic 15PPG 14RPG 1BLK
10. Klay Thompson 21PPG 3.5RPG 1St
11. Kenneth Faried 11PPG 11RPG 1BLk
12. Harrison Barnes 14PPG 7RPG 2.5Ast
13. Chandler Parsons 17.5PPG 6.5RPG 5Ast.
14. Jimmy Butler 15.5PPG 6RPG 1.5Stls
15 Kemba Walker 14.5PPG 6.5Ast 2Stls
16. Tobias Harris
17. Derrick Williams (would be higher on this list if he were on a team where he had more of an opportunity)
18. Moe Harkless
19. Tristan Thompson
20. Iman Shumpert
21. John Henson
22. Terrence Jones
23. Donatas Motiejūnas
24. Jared Sullinger (would be higher if not for injury concern)
25. Dion Waiters - Chucker and not efficient
26. Terrence Ross
27. Jeremy Lamb
28. Isaiah Thomas
29. Brandon Knight
30. Thomas Robinson
31. Reggie Jackson
32. Evan Fournier

[andy09]

I agree, Beal is over Jimmy Butler.

Beal is 4 years younger than Butler. By the time Beal is 24 (Butlers age) Butler will be 28. Beal has much higher upside.

Jonas bust potential? Have you seen him play? Please explain how this guy can be a bust. He's a more sure thing than Andre Drummond who I am also very high on.

Parsons of Kawhi? Kawhi is an ELITE defender. Parsons is a better shooter but that is about it. Every GM in the league would take Kawhi over Parsons. Kawhi is also 22 and Parsons is approaching 25.

Every GM in the league would take Beal over Jimmy Butler and it's not close. I like Jimmy Butler but let's be realistic.

1. Anthony Davis 23PPG 12.5RPG 3BLKs
2. Kyrie Irving 26.5PPG 7Ast. 1.5Stls
3. Jonas Valanciunas 16PPG 8.5RPG 2BLKs
4. Andre Drummond 16.5PPG 14RPG 3BLKs
5. Kawhi Leonard 16PPG 7.5RPG 2Stls
6. Bradley Beal 17.5PPG 5RPG 1Stl
7. Damain Lillard 21PPG 6Ast. 1Stll (great player but high usage padded his stats)
8. Enes Kanter 15PPG 10.5RPG 2BLks
9. Nikola Vucevic 15PPG 14RPG 1BLK
10. Klay Thompson 21PPG 3.5RPG 1St
11. Kenneth Faried 11PPG 11RPG 1BLk
12. Harrison Barnes 14PPG 7RPG 2.5Ast
13. Chandler Parsons 17.5PPG 6.5RPG 5Ast.
14. Jimmy Butler 15.5PPG 6RPG 1.5Stls
15 Kemba Walker 14.5PPG 6.5Ast 2Stls
16. Tobias Harris
17. Derrick Williams (would be higher on this list if he were on a team where he had more of an opportunity)
18. Moe Harkless
19. Tristan Thompson
20. Iman Shumpert
21. John Henson
22. Terrence Jones
23. Donatas Motiejūnas
24. Jared Sullinger (would be higher if not for injury concern)
25. Dion Waiters - Chucker and not efficient
26. Terrence Ross
27. Jeremy Lamb
28. Isaiah Thomas
29. Brandon Knight
30. Thomas Robinson
31. Reggie Jackson
32. Evan Fournier

[tamtalizied]

Assuming there are no injuries (I probably forgot a player or two)

1. Anthony Davis 23PPG 12.5RPG 3BLKs
2. Kyrie Irving 26.5PPG 7Ast. 1.5Stls
3. Andre Drummond 16.5PPG 14RPG 3BLKs
4. Damain Lillard 21PPG 6Ast. 1Stl
5. Nikola Vucevic 15PPG 14RPG 1BLK
6. Chandler Parsons 17.5PPG 6.5RPG 5Ast.
7. Kawhi Leonard 16PPG 7.5RPG 2Stls
8. Klay Thompson 21PPG 3.5RPG 1Stl
9. Enes Kanter 15PPG 10.5RPG 2BLks
10. Jonas Valanciunas (Has potential to be as high as 3, but could also be a bust) 16PPG 8.5RPG 2BLKs
11. Kenneth Faried 11PPG 11RPG 1BLk
12. Jimmy Butler 15.5PPG 6RPG 1.5Stls
13. Harrison Barnes 14PPG 7RPG 2.5Ast
14. Bradley Beal 17.5PPG 5RPG 1Stl
15. Kemba Walker 14.5PPG 6.5Ast 2Stls

EDIT: Added stats

Anthony Davis at 23 PPG? Wow.. I don't think he will average more than 18 PPG throughout his entire career IMO.

Kyrie will be a stud IF he can stay healthy, though I don't think he is "injury prone" per say, since all of his injuries are separate freak accidents and different.

Andre Drummond will be good, but I think his potential will depend on the coaching staff. They are stacked at the 4/5, and depending how the coach wants to develop his skill set, it could make a huge difference.

Lillard could eventually be a superstar, he has the size, determination, and the talent to get there. But he will need a good mentor IMO as that POR team is just too young.

Jonas V is intriguing to me. With the new GM and staffs in town, lets see how they response first.

Kawhi Leonard is going to be a good #2 or #3 option in the future, but he doesn't scream #1 to me. Spurs has some good staff, and they teach their players well, however, it is a double edge sword in the sense that he might not be asked to do too many different things, which "might" cap him.

Again, these are just my opinion. :p

[EMD34]

Beal is 4 years younger than Butler. By the time Beal is 24 (Butlers age) Butler will be 28. Beal has much higher upside.

Jonas bust potential? Have you seen him play? Please explain how this guy can be a bust. He's a more sure thing than Andre Drummond who I am also very high on.

Parsons of Kawhi? Kawhi is an ELITE defender. Parsons is a better shooter but that is about it. Every GM in the league would take Kawhi over Parsons. Kawhi is also 22 and Parsons is approaching 25.

Every GM in the league would take Beal over Jimmy Butler and it's not close. I like Jimmy Butler but let's be realistic.



I guess I didn't really mean bust per say, I was just saying that he could turn out to not be as great as a lot of people think (not that I don't think he will be good), but I think Drummond is much more of a sure thing, his PER was over 21 and that is with 37% FTs (which will almost definitely improve).

On Kawhi, I'm not convinced. He is a very good player, but he is far from the future all star so many are claiming he is. I think his ceiling is Iguodala. (but then, I could be letting the fact that Morey passed on him for Morris cloud my judgement.) I am also pretty high on Parsons though.

And as for Beal vs. Butler, to be honest, I really don't know a lot about either of them, so that was based purely on stats.

[EMD34]

Anthony Davis at 23 PPG? Wow.. I don't think he will average more than 18 PPG throughout his entire career IMO.

Kyrie will be a stud IF he can stay healthy, though I don't think he is "injury prone" per say, since all of his injuries are separate freak accidents and different.

Andre Drummond will be good, but I think his potential will depend on the coaching staff. They are stacked at the 4/5, and depending how the coach wants to develop his skill set, it could make a huge difference.

Lillard could eventually be a superstar, he has the size, determination, and the talent to get there. But he will need a good mentor IMO as that POR team is just too young.

Jonas V is intriguing to me. With the new GM and staffs in town, lets see how they response first.

Kawhi Leonard is going to be a good #2 or #3 option in the future, but he doesn't scream #1 to me. Spurs has some good staff, and they teach their players well, however, it is a double edge sword in the sense that he might not be asked to do too many different things, which "might" cap him.

Again, these are just my opinion. :p

Yeah, I think Davis is the real deal. I would be really surprised if he didn't average over 18 next year (he only played 28MPG last year). I'm not at all sold on the fact that Lillard is going to be great, he will be good, but I think he is already somewhat close to his ceiling seeing as he is already 23, but he could definitely prove me wrong.

[MikeMamba]

I wasn't very high on Davis going in last season but I can see him being a 22ppg 10reb 3assist player, he just needs minutes. Not sure why they limited him a lot, last season.
Hopefully its not the same case this season.

[whiteboybill]

I don't care who you knock off but someone has to go to fit jimmy butler in there :)

+1.....Butler will def be top 10 in this class....possibly top 5 with a PG like Rose!

[EMD34]

I wasn't very high on Davis going in last season but I can see him being a 22ppg 10reb 3assist player, he just needs minutes. Not sure why they limited him a lot, last season.
Hopefully its not the same case this season.

Probably because he kept getting hurt, and he was only 19 so he was really thin and he got thrown around in the post. He has supposedly put on 15-20lbs since then, so that shouldn't be as much of a problem this year, but he should probably put on another 15lbs or so to get up into the 240-250lb range.

[andy09]

He already gained 20 ibs this summer, and looking to add another 5 ibs by Training Camp. Hope he can get avg 3-4 blks and compete for DPOY this season.

Probably because he kept getting hurt, and he was only 19 so he was really thin and he got thrown around in the post. He has supposedly put on 15-20lbs since then, so that shouldn't be as much of a problem this year, but he should probably put on another 15lbs or so to get up into the 240-250lb range.

[EMD34]

He already gained 20 ibs this summer, and looking to add another 5 ibs by Training Camp. Hope he can get avg 3-4 blks and compete for DPOY this season.

Me too, he is one of my favorite players. I hope he doesn't give the Rockets too much trouble though.

[Yaga]

No love for Dion Waiters on here hey? I'm thinking he's going to have a really good second year if he stays healthy... he could be a special player down the road.

[MikeMamba]

Probably because he kept getting hurt, and he was only 19 so he was really thin and he got thrown around in the post. He has supposedly put on 15-20lbs since then, so that shouldn't be as much of a problem this year, but he should probably put on another 15lbs or so to get up into the 240-250lb range.

Besides missing 18 games, he should have averaged 36min played

I remember seeing one of their games and their play-by-play people were questioning why he wasn't getting more PT.

[topbasketballfa]

klay Thompson Kenneth Faried Thomas Robinson kyrie Irving Anthony Davis harrson Barnes Chandler Parsons kawhi and Jared Sullinger. Not in order.

thomas robinsons? really?

[The Fluffy]

thomas robinsons? really?

Just my opinion... don't have to agree with me.

[Tarheelsfan2012]

1. Kyrie-All Star, possible MVP IF remains healthy
2. Barnes-All-Star, big game player
3. Anthony Davis, All-Star, all around player
4. Kawhi Leonard, Potential All-Star,
5. John Henson, Potential All-Star
6. Damian Lillard, Lower Ceiling than the top 5
7. Beal
8. Faried
9. Drummond
10. Butler

Honorable mention right now
Parsons- Very consistent, not as high ceiling as the top 10 but if others dont develop he will be in.
Kemba- Needs to improve play by being more consistent .
MKG- Has potential right now but needs to develop more of an offensive game.
Klay- Right now just a shooter, cant put in top 10.
Sullinger- Hurt rookie year, need to see if he can stay healthy and what he can do.
Jonas V- Possible could get in Top 10.
Harkless- has potential and came on at the end of the season.
Tobias- Same as Harkless when given playing time.
Shump- See as a side kick eventually and not the go to player.

[afrobandit]

No mention of Kidd-Gilchrist?

[CYLIN]

Don't forget the " next kobe" marshon brooks ~

[thenwhatjk]

These lists are so safe

Derrick williams will be top 5, beal will be #1

[andy09]

so, whose card value will increase most in 5 years?

[77ncaachamps]

Butler is solid.

Crowder just needs the minutes. He's not Top 10 consistently but can put up Top 10 numbers.

[benz35]

Isaiah Thomas ? :D

[ASAPPORKY]

Jonas Valanciunas, if he moves out of Toronto ...

[ray34allen21]

I think paninis double rookie class is making people forget that the rookies from this years products are split. If you meant 11/12 then no davis, lilllard, or drummond

[msrozen]

Isaiah Thomas ? :D

i cant believe he is ranked so low.. :confused:

[neil34]

where is my Fournier????