2013 topps update sp & ssp list

[brentandbecca]

I am sending my info into Cardboard Connections often as I can for visual guide and full checklist...
2013 Topps Update Series Variation Short Prints Details, Checklist (http://www.cardboardconnection.com/2013-topps-update-series-baseball-variation-short-prints-guide)

25 BASIC SP (Fall 6 per case in Jumbo and about 8 per case in Hobby)
MATT HARVEY US1
YOENIS CESPEDES US7 4-PLAYER LINEUP
YOENIS CESPEDES US7 HIGH FIVES CANO
BO JACKSON US16
ANDREW McCUTCHEN US35
CRAIG KIMBREL US53
CHIPPER JONES US53
YU DARVISH US79
TROY TULOWITZSKI US88
NOMAR GARCIAPARRA US114
KEN GRIFFEY US119 SWINGING
JUSTIN VERLANDER US134
YADIER MOLINA US142
BRYCE HARPER US180
MAX SCHERZER US193
CAL RIPKEN US216 SIGNING AUTOS
MIGUEL CABRERA 218
YASIEL PUIG US 250 BIG GLOVE
JOEY VOTTO US268
TORII HUNTER US276
DAVID ORTIZ US285
MIKE TROUT US300
MARIANO RIVERA US313
DAVID WRIGHT US316
ROBINSON CANO US323

SSP LIST (and how many I pulled in () in my 64 cases)
25 SUPER SP (Fall 1 per 2 cases in Jumbo and Hobby)
TOM SEAVER with WRIGHT US1 (1)
HANK AARON with MAYS US53 (2)
WILLIE MAYS with KOUFAX US73 (1)
WILL CLARK with MATT WILLIAMS US73 (2)
WADE BOGGS US114 (2)
KEN GRIFFEY JR. US119 - AS GAME TROPHY (1)
TONY GWYNN with GRIFFEY JR. US140 (1)
GERRIT COLE US150 (1)
JOHN KRUK US188 (1)
WIL MYERS US200 (1)
PRINCE GEORGE OF CAMBRIDGE US205 (1)
CAL RIPKEN JR. US216 - AS GAME TROPHY (1)
YASIEL PUIG US250 - ARMS UP (2)
YASIEL PUIG US250 - SLIDING (1)
TEDDY KREMER with DUSTY BAKER #US268 (1)
MARIANO RIVERA US313 - AT BULLPEN DOOR (1)
LOU GEHRIG with JIMMIE FOXX US323 (2)
DON MATTINGLY with BO JACKSON US323 (0)
DEREK JETER SERIES 1 #2 (2)
MANNY MACHADO S1 #270 (1)
JURICKSON PROFAR S1 #286 (1)
SHELBY MILLER S1 #305 (1)
JOSE FERNANDEZ S2 #589 (1)
HYUN-JIN RYU S2 #661 - DUGOUT (2)
HYUN-JIN RYU S2 #661 BATTING (2)

[Rufusyo]

Nice stuff Brent. Thanks for the info and good luck on the rest.

[edclay]

Great work Brent. I pulled 10 from my hobby case and 2 look to be SSP, Ryu #661 and Gerrit Cole US150. Did you pull any of these? I might have to adjust price to reflect rarity.

[brentandbecca]

Great work Brent. I pulled 10 from my hobby case and 2 look to be SSP, Ryu #661 and Gerrit Cole US150. Did you pull any of these? I might have to adjust price to reflect rarity.

there are 2 ryu 661 versions, I have pulled 1 of each thru 45 cases, and ZERO Gerrit Cole!

[brentandbecca]

updated above with more data

[HeyFitzy]

So any guesses at print runs?! Lol man these are wicked. Makes me wanna buy a jumbo case so bad

[Srodeva]

what about the Teddy Kremer card? Is that a SP or SSP?

has anyone else pulled it but me?

[calculusdork]

what about the Teddy Kremer card? Is that a SP or SSP?

has anyone else pulled it but me?

What is the card #? Sounds like an SSP probably for Votto ... one that will probably sell VERY well.

[Srodeva]

What is the card #? Sounds like an SSP probably for Votto ... one that will probably sell VERY well.

yes, it is #268. has dusty baker on it with him

[calculusdork]

yes, it is #268. has dusty baker on it with him

Nice pull! Must be one of the two remaining SSPs that Brent has not found. Sucks that it has Baker on it honestly, but with Kremer it's definitely still a $100+ card.

[marauder03]

Great info Brent! Looks like I got a few of the SSP. Had 2 jumbo cases with 8, better recheck the hobby though.

[TarjetasBéisbol]

Great data Brent, thanks for the info. IMHO, there are way too many variations this year from all the Topps products. I am not too sure, because it happened long ago but, didn't we fight a war for independence against the British? Why do we need a card that celebrates the birth of a future king, PRINCE GEORGE OF CAMBRIDGE???

[Srodeva]

Nice pull! Must be one of the two remaining SSPs that Brent has not found. Sucks that it has Baker on it honestly, but with Kremer it's definitely still a $100+ card.

wow. really? i would have guessed 30-40, but will be thrilled to get that much. i'll see if i can get a scan of it up in a few hours if one hasn't already surfaced

[calculusdork]

wow. really? i would have guessed 30-40, but will be thrilled to get that much. i'll see if i can get a scan of it up in a few hours if one hasn't already surfaced

Looks like you will have the first one on eBay ... definitely put that thing up for $150. There are probably only 25 made, you'll want to be the first.

[hairysasquatch]

I have a Wright/Seaver - saw one on eBay.

[DarkTiger29]

US323 has the Cano variation which you noted and also has a Don Mattingly/Bo Jackson variation and a 3rd variation of Lou Gehrig/Jimmy Foxx

[Srodeva]

here is the Teddy variation

[calculusdork]

^^^ Congrats, that is an awesome pull man. I might even go $200 BIN/BO.

[Srodeva]

^^^ Congrats, that is an awesome pull man. I might even go $200 BIN/BO.

thanks, I did 150 or BO.

i had a miserable 2 case break. I mean MISERABLE. and on my birthday no less. No birthday luck for me.

I'm hoping a couple of my color cards and variations can save me from losing big.

the best auto or relic i got in 2 cases was an Ortiz coin /50 :eek:

[calculusdork]

thanks, I did 150 or BO.

i had a miserable 2 case break. I mean MISERABLE. and on my birthday no less. No birthday luck for me.

I'm hoping a couple of my color cards and variations can save me from losing big.

the best auto or relic i got in 2 cases was an Ortiz coin /50 :eek:

Dude, that sucks. :( Hopefully you can recover.

I'm serious when I say $200 OBO ... I sold an AGon SSP for $200 last year (those were rumored to be print run of 25, these may be even less).

[Srodeva]

Dude, that sucks. :( Hopefully you can recover.

I'm serious when I say $200 OBO ... I sold an AGon SSP for $200 last year (those were rumored to be print run of 25, these may be even less).

Yea, I hear you.

i just don't know how it would go that high for a card that is not of a player. It's not like anyone supercollects Teddy Kremer

At least, I don't think so. :D

[calculusdork]

Yea, I hear you.

i just don't know how it would go that high for a card that is not of a player. It's not like anyone supercollects Teddy Kremer

At least, I don't think so. :D

Think: 2012 Rally Squirrel. Who collects a squirrel card? Set builders and Cardinals fans, that's who. And that card STILL sells for $75.

I bet you'll find a pretty quick buyer at $200, but I could be wrong.

[cparker94]

Looks like there are 25 SP cards and 24 SSP cards found so far if you look at Brent's list and add the Kremer card. What is the last remaining SSP? (Assuming there are 25 SSPs)

Let me know! Thanks!

Craig from Texas

[corockies]

2013 Topps Update Series Variation Short Prints Details, Checklist (http://www.cardboardconnection.com/2013-topps-update-series-baseball-variation-short-prints-guide)

^ My fave place to go for product checklists. They usually have up to date data on SP's from all sets with pics.

[marauder03]

2013 Topps Update Series Variation Short Prints Details, Checklist (http://www.cardboardconnection.com/2013-topps-update-series-baseball-variation-short-prints-guide)

^ My fave place to go for product checklists. They usually have up to date data on SP's from all sets with pics.

Great resource and Brent is the one who provides them the info. He has been updating on here ahead of that for this release with all the variations.

Many thanks to Brent for the info to help on knowledge of SSP!!!:)!:)!

[cparker94]

Ahhh! Just found the last SSP -- Torii Hunter.

Craig from Texas

[marauder03]

Ahhh! Just found the last SSP -- Torii Hunter.

Craig from Texas

What is different about it?

[darin2200]

Are the tiny codes on the back different between the SP and SSP?

I know the SP are different than regular base, but did SSP get another different one?

[cparker94]

Here is what I believe to be all 25 SP and 25 SSP cards. Let me know if you see others or if I made any errors. Thanks!

[DarkTiger29]

The Prince George card made me laugh

[marauder03]

cparker - I think you need to put the Torii Hunter in SP there are a lot out there.

[geor952]

I took my 7 and 10 yr. old to a game at Great American and Teddy gave them a ball, while Dusty gave them another one! Great card for my family!

[Ajax1723]

Here is what I believe to be all 25 SP and 25 SSP cards. Let me know if you see others or if I made any errors. Thanks!



You have the Torii hunter card in both lists. Still to SSP to be found.

[cparker94]

Dang it ! I thought it was complete. One more to go. Who knows what it is????

Craig from Texas

[brentandbecca]

US323 has the Cano variation which you noted and also has a Don Mattingly/Bo Jackson variation and a 3rd variation of Lou Gehrig/Jimmy Foxx

Yes they are listed above if you look at SSP section

[DarkTiger29]

Yes they are listed above if you look at SSP section

Sorry I missed it

[brentandbecca]

2013 Topps Update Series Variation Short Prints Details, Checklist (http://www.cardboardconnection.com/2013-topps-update-series-baseball-variation-short-prints-guide)

^ My fave place to go for product checklists. They usually have up to date data on SP's from all sets with pics.

The same link is in the OP

[ToppsCollector1]

So many SPs this year. Looks like 2013 has taken over the spot for most SPs in a set since 2010 when you consider this year there were also SPs in opening day

[garpike]

Yea, I hear you.

i just don't know how it would go that high for a card that is not of a player. It's not like anyone supercollects Teddy Kremer

At least, I don't think so. :D

I think it will be HUGE here in Cincy!!!
Everyone LOVES that guy around here!!

I would love to have it in my collection but can't even touch $150.00 for it.

:)!

[hairysasquatch]

In one otherwise relatively nondescript Jumbo case I pulled the Seaver and the Mattingly, mine seem to be the second ones of each on eBay with high BIN/BO's - I also pulled the Cabrera, Votto, Cespedes, and Hunter SPs. I'm inclined to think the Hunter is an SP (not SSP) but we'll wait and see.

Thanks to everyone for the help -loves me some SSPs - they might just save me this time!

[brentandbecca]

In one otherwise relatively nondescript Jumbo case I pulled the Seaver and the Mattingly, mine seem to be the second ones of each on eBay with high BIN/BO's - I also pulled the Cabrera, Votto, Cespedes, and Hunter SPs. I'm inclined to think the Hunter is an SP (not SSP) but we'll wait and see.

Thanks to everyone for the help -loves me some SSPs - they might just save me this time!

hunter is sp, and not ssp, it is in the first post of the thread

[hairysasquatch]

First Seaver SSP only went for $74?

[brentandbecca]

First Seaver SSP only went for $74?

it is not a great looking card IMO especially for Seaver and shoot the first Jeter only went $74, should be $125-150 card

[yanks2323]

I opened 3 blasters, 1 hobby , and 1 jumbo, i got Will Clark, Cespdes , Yu Darvish, and Tulo, not too bad

[brentandbecca]

updated with the final one (50th!)
PROFAR from S1

[Sushiyoshi]

In jumbo packs, the SP & SSPs are with the inserts right?
I assume they are not with the base cards on either side of all the inserts.

[blackbears86]

Sorry to get off the sp/ssp topic, but what are everyone's thoughts on investment potential on this product? I know the puig/myers/other rookies cards help, but will the large number of variations and sp's kill long term value?

I've opened a few blasters and personally love this...Just wondering other's thoughts.

[bmlocal175]

Where are the math experts? How many total cases of update are there? 1 SSP :2 cases, 25 subjects. What are the SSP cards quantity per card?

[goldenegg1]

Wait until the media gets a hold of the Prince George and the Teddy Kremer cards. Remember the Jeter/Bush SSP?

[base set]

In jumbo packs, the SP & SSPs are with the inserts right?
I assume they are not with the base cards on either side of all the inserts.

I pulled the McCutchen from right in the middle of the inserts in a Jumbo pack, not on either side.

And Garciaparra from the first 1/3 of a pack from a Hobby Box.

[Srodeva]

my Teddy Kremer went for 150 BIN today.

Probably could have gotten more, but happy with that considering I thought it might be a 2-5 card when I pulled it. :)!

[calculusdork]

my Teddy Kremer went for 150 BIN today.

Probably could have gotten more, but happy with that considering I thought it might be a 2-5 card when I pulled it. :)!

Congrats on the sale, that's great news.

[marauder03]

All the SP's in hobby were a little tougher to find. I went back through my hobby base, sold as a lot, before I shipped, found one more for 6 total, but feel like I still missed something, lol

[brentandbecca]

the prices may rise on the ssp as there are only 0-2 of each on, I update OP with numbers from all my cases
only 1 I did not pull was Mattingly with Bo

[marauder03]

I took 240 on the puig arms up after one ended at 282 on auction, the Fernandez @75 may turn out to be low but not bad.

[elijahdf11]

Were the Sp's scattered throughout the base in jumbo boxes or in the middle of the inserts? I pulled the Yadier Molina one but wasn't sure if I could have missed any.

[marauder03]

In jumbo they were in the middle of inserts.

[HeyFitzy]

How SSP are the SSP cards? I mean these seem like insane pulls.

I've seen only 5 Gerrit Cole Variations hit eBay. Brent pulled one, so that's 6. I mean wow! How some of these are going for cheap is unreal.

[bmlocal175]

I have the Jeter and Royal Baby out of my 2 cases. Pretty lucky I guess. Sitting firm on $200 for now.

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

How SSP are the SSP cards? I mean these seem like insane pulls.

I've seen only 5 Gerrit Cole Variations hit eBay. Brent pulled one, so that's 6. I mean wow! How some of these are going for cheap is unreal.

They will start trickling out little by little and be more common.

[charnick]

oh dear, this breaks my heart. i wonder if the transaction was completed. dang, how did i miss this?!?!?

Don Mattingly Bo Jackson 2013 Topps Update Short Print Photo Variation Yankees | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DON-MATTINGLY-BO-JACKSON-2013-Topps-Update-SHORT-PRINT-PHOTO-VARIATION-Yankees-/231075431575?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item35cd2b4497)

[HeyFitzy]

They will start trickling out little by little and be more common.

Yeah I'm thinking that too but value wise, for a RC could this be one of his rare ones?

[Ajax1723]

Pulled the Machado out of a lone jumbo box yesterday at my LCS. Love the variation chase.

[garpike]

News of the REDS Teddy Kremer variation has been picked up by a few of the local TV and radio stations...People are loving it!! Wish more would show up!