Who's the best hof

[matvoo]

Jst want to know what u like
Sorry this one is not a contest

[callou2131]

Ozzy Osbourne.

[MikeWilliamsFan]

Bert Blyleven

[Addison]

:turkey:Yasiel Puig:turkey:

[Lancemountain]

Michael Jack Schmidt and that's the thread

[tjenkins]

I am not really a huge fan of the Giants but I really think Willie Mays was the most complete 5 tool player to ever play with a fantastic personality to go with. He had all aspects of the game covered. If I had to pick one player in all of baseball history to be my first draft pick, it would be the "Say Hey Kid" Willie Mays.

[matvoo]

I think jackie robinson the greatest player cause he broke the colour barrier

[HOFcollector]

not saying he is the best but the fact that Clemente isn't even on the poll is a shame

[matvoo]

I didnt know who to put robinson or clemente

[Thommy]

20 Reasons Jeff Francoeur Is The Greatest Baseball Player Who Ever Lived (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjkiebus/reasons-jeff-francoeur-is-the-greatest-baseball-player-th)

[matvoo]

Oh darn it i should of put him on this poll

[wwejhardyrox]

20 Reasons Jeff Francoeur Is The Greatest Baseball Player Who Ever Lived (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjkiebus/reasons-jeff-francoeur-is-the-greatest-baseball-player-th)
That's the best thing I have ever seen.

[Stat Monsters]

I think jackie robinson the greatest player cause he broke the colour barrier

Did Jackie Robinson actually break the color barrier or does credit actually go to BRANCH RICKEY and The Brooklyn Dodgers who were the decision makers and promoted him and had him play on the historic day of April 15, 1947?

[matvoo]

Ya i really dont know.

[centereacan06]

Byron Burxton

[ilovethelakings]

The correct answer is always Jim Brown.

[matvoo]

Yep long way to go for him

[hermanotarjeta]

Where's Rickey?

[matvoo]

Sorry he would of been in if there was 15 spots

[MarshallCutler6]

Babe Ruth is my pick.

[matvoo]

Most people chose the obvious answer
Babe ruth

[phillies347]

Wheres Hank Aaron??

[signal_fifty]

http://images.wikia.com/wikiality/images/c/c8/InfiniteHoffCrotch.gif

There can only be one HOF

[callou2131]

Aaaaahhhhhhh my eyes!!!!!

[fungi2510]

Having Cy Young on any list of best players ever is laughable. Dude was not close to the best of all time, not even of his era.

[groundsupport]

Pete Rose...

[jbhofmann]

Did Jackie Robinson actually break the color barrier or does credit actually go to BRANCH RICKEY and The Brooklyn Dodgers who were the decision makers and promoted him and had him play on the historic day of April 15, 1947?

Jackie was chosen by Rickey because he had the temperament not on talent alone. Rickey knew that his experiment would fail if he chose someone flamboyant and someone who would fight back.

Jackie, not Rickey was the one who had to endure the daily racism. I'd say Robinson was the one would broke that barrier.

[gmsieb]

What's laughable to me, is the belief that all of the GOATS, all played 60-100 years ago. The guys playing today, are every bit as good, if not better, but we still freak out about some guys, who played in an era, where the talent pool, was white guys living in the US. The talent pool today, is the world. Guys are bigger, stronger, faster. Most sports realize this, but not in baseball.

Some one mentioned Jim Brown. I grew up hearing about Jim from my dad and how great he was, so there is a place in my heart for him and I respect the hell out of him. BUT, look at what he played against. The Def linemen back then were 230-250. He was the biggest guy on the field some days. Most of the nfl rbs today, would have a field day, running up against 210 lbs linebackers and 240-250 lbs lineman. Leaving in my mind, no way to really compare the to eras. I believe baseball is the same, but we still view all the GOATS as guys that played 60-100 years ago.

Is it even statically possible that all the best players of all time in a sport all played together??

[gmsieb]

Jackie was chosen by Rickey because he had the temperament not on talent alone. Rickey knew that his experiment would fail if he chose someone flamboyant and someone who would fight back.

Jackie, not Rickey was the one who had to endure the daily racism. I'd say Robinson was the one would broke that barrier.

I'll say, they did it together. Not possible without either one.

I understand what he did and endured, but he wasn't a top player of all time. He was maybe the most historical player who ever played, who also happened to be a great player.

[gmarutiak]

Did Jackie Robinson actually break the color barrier or does credit actually go to BRANCH RICKEY and The Brooklyn Dodgers who were the decision makers and promoted him and had him play on the historic day of April 15, 1947?

Just...stop.

[Ty Hope]

Matt Laporta

[sayheywillie]

He the best in all baseball.....say hey Wilie Mays

[twinsvikings31]

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Harmon Killebrew

[JohnnysBench]

He the best in all baseball.....say hey Wilie Mays

Of the people on the list, Willie is the best IMO. There may be a few I would have left off and a few I would have included(Ie Henderson?)

[realshemp]

missing from your list...

Tris Speaker
Rogers Hornsby
Hank Aaron

Speaker and Hornsby are both better than Mantle, DiMaggio, Williams, Musial and Jackie Robinson.

Aaron is #5 in WAR for position players so I think he deserves a spot on the list.

[Boqueesha]

Matt Laporta

Andy Marte

[jbhofmann]

I'll say, they did it together. Not possible without either one.

I understand what he did and endured, but he wasn't a top player of all time. He was maybe the most historical player who ever played, who also happened to be a great player.

I don't think he's anywhere close to the greatest to ever play. In fact he wasn't the most talented black player in 1946/47 when they made the choice to throw him into the fire.

If you look at the facts Cobb was considered by the majority to be the greatest to ever play (not Ruth) at the time of the first HOF induction in 1936.

If I were forced to pick I would go with Mays or Williams. Mays is what Mike Trout has been, but over an extended period of time. Williams by all accounts is the greatest hitter of all time and lost years of his prime to war service. Who knows what his stats would have looked like if he had played those years.

[mcgoo2]

From an iconic standpoint, I would say Jackie Robinson or Babe Ruth. Willie Mays is the best player of the group. Ruth probably strikes the best balance of the three.

[mcgoo2]

I don't think he's anywhere close to the greatest to ever play. In fact he wasn't the most talented black player in 1946/47 when they made the choice to throw him into the fire.

If you look at the facts Cobb was considered by the majority to be the greatest to ever play (not Ruth) at the time of the first HOF induction in 1936.

If I were forced to pick I would go with Mays or Williams. Mays is what Mike Trout has been, but over an extended period of time. Williams by all accounts is the greatest hitter of all time and lost years of his prime to war service. Who knows what his stats would have looked like if he had played those years.

It just depends how you interpret "Best HOFer" To me, it extends a little further than the best player. Of course Jackie Robinson wasn't the best all-time but I think he deserves to be up there because of what he means to baseball.

[Gmrson]

Jackie was chosen by Rickey because he had the temperament not on talent alone.

Yep, according to Roy Campanella in his book It's Good to Be Alive Rickey talked to him also but he was passed over because he stated he couldn't promise to control his temper.

[Tugarpj]

Babe Ruth. Should've been who is second best. Then there is room for discussion.

[TarjetasBéisbol]

Barry Bonds

[jbhofmann]

If your looking to add a pitcher I would put this man at the very top.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/42/Satchel_Paige.jpg/200px-Satchel_Paige.jpg

The lack of great stat keeping and the fact that Paige played for numerous Negro League, barnstormers, and Winter League teams pulls a lot of his career into question. One thing is for certain though, he was held in the highest regard by his peers, both white and blacks.

"Joe DiMaggio would say that Paige was the best he ever faced. Bob Feller would say that Paige was the best he ever saw. Hack Wilson would say that the ball looked like a marble when it crossed the plate. Dizzy Dean would say that Paige’s fastball made his own look like a changeup."

If you want a "Legend" he's your man.

[Stat Monsters]

If your looking to add a pitcher I would put this man at the very top.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/42/Satchel_Paige.jpg/200px-Satchel_Paige.jpg

The lack of great stat keeping and the fact that Paige played for numerous Negro League, barnstormers, and Winter League teams pulls a lot of his career into question. One thing is for certain though, he was held in the highest regard by his peers, both white and blacks.

"Joe DiMaggio would say that Paige was the best he ever faced. Bob Feller would say that Paige was the best he ever saw. Hack Wilson would say that the ball looked like a marble when it crossed the plate. Dizzy Dean would say that Paige’s fastball made his own look like a changeup."

If you want a "Legend" he's your man.

Great pick... and looking for "The Best" is so subjective and there's not a catch all pick, which makes it fun and debatable to discuss.

It's like if someone asked you "What's THE BEST restaurant in your hometown?"

You'd not be able to clearly answer it and provide an answer everyone would be satisfied with?

What type of Cuisine? (Seafood, Steaks, Vegan, Ethnic, etc.)
What type of Pricing / Value?
What type of Service?
What type of Location Atmosphere?

So, for sports and baseball it could be by position, it could be for offense, it could be for defense, it could be for on the field / off the field team player personality, it could be for simply wins and championships, vs peers at the time, or just pure stats.

[realshemp]

It's like if someone asked you "What's THE BEST restaurant in your hometown?"


Actually my hometown only had 3 real sit-down restaurants and it was pretty well known which the best was... the joys of growing up in a town of 2000 people! ;)

But, the point you make is very good - these are the kind of debates I really like because everybody has an opinion and nobody can really be proven right or wrong.

[btimm]

I would always say Babe Ruth, because I can't think of anyone else who was both an elite hitter and an elite pitcher.

[aliceinpains]

No Hank Aaron or Roberto Clemente?

[StlScott]

Greatest - Babe Ruth... without Babe Ruth there would be no Jackie Robinson. Baseball would have never been as popular as it was.

[jbhofmann]

Greatest - Babe Ruth... without Babe Ruth there would be no Jackie Robinson. Baseball would have never been as popular as it was.

Not true. Some Negro League teams were much bigger draws than MLB clubs. Like I said before, Paige was the Main Event and sometimes pitched everyday to keep the league alive. When he pitched it was an event, not a game.

[matvoo]

Guys its pretty hard to put all the players that deserve it

[JohnnysBench]

Let me add Aaron to Henderson on my "Should have been on this list" List...

[briscogun]

Babe Ruth is, has, and always will be THE man in baseball. No one will ever put up numbers like him, as a pitcher and a hitter. He was hitting 60 HR's when the #2 guy could barely hit 20. Oh, and he was a dominant pitcher before his HR record stood for 50 yrs. His name is synonymous with the a Golden Age of baseball and was the first mega star in the sport. Larger than life.

He's like baseballs version of Elvis.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Obviously whoever had the highest WAR...

[briscogun]

Let me add Aaron to Henderson on my "Should have been on this list" List...

Good call, Aaron should be on that list. I don't want to stir crap up, but couldn't Rose be considered? As a player, I mean? If the legitimate all-time HR king (Bonds was a dirty nightmare from the 2000's in my world), then the all-time hit king could be a consideration...

DiMaggio and Cobb can be taken off. Musial was awesome but THE best ever? Interesting argument. I love these conversations, comparing "best ever". No right answers, lots of possibilities...

[Giants1981]

Good call, Aaron should be on that list. I don't want to stir crap up, but couldn't Rose be considered? As a player, I mean? If the legitimate all-time HR king (Bonds was a dirty nightmare from the 2000's in my world), then the all-time hit king could be a consideration...

DiMaggio and Cobb can be taken off. Musial was awesome but THE best ever? Interesting argument. I love these conversations, comparing "best ever". No right answers, lots of possibilities...

Cobb taken off? Lol yeah right. Good call! ;)

[sthoemke]

#1 Ty Cobb

#2 Rickey Henderson

[WCTYSON]

Good call, Aaron should be on that list. I don't want to stir crap up, but couldn't Rose be considered? As a player, I mean? If the legitimate all-time HR king (Bonds was a dirty nightmare from the 2000's in my world), then the all-time hit king could be a consideration...

DiMaggio and Cobb can be taken off. Musial was awesome but THE best ever? Interesting argument. I love these conversations, comparing "best ever". No right answers, lots of possibilities...

Let me get this straight. You want to add Rose to the talk and remove Cobb from the list. :confused:

Rose has over 2,500 more at bats than Cobb with less than 100 more hits. That equates to a .303 vs. a .366. Then let us also look at the fact that Rose's strikeout rate is 3x that of Cobb's, along with having 700 less stolen bases than Cobb. So short answer, I am not sure Rose is even in the talk for top 25 much less top 10 over Cobb.

I do agree though that DiMaggio should be taken off and I would also argue that Mantle should be also. I certain can see Ruth on this from the Yankees but how is it that Gehrig has not been mentioned above the others? Aaron should be added and Musial deserves to stay.

[callou2131]

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