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zonacats8
11-28-2013, 12:25 AM
Should be a great one, can't wait for Friday

Kobe24>MJ23
11-28-2013, 12:37 AM
Those Bama comebacks had me nervous.

yankeesfan24
11-28-2013, 08:57 AM
I'm very excited. Our team trip tomorrow is to go see both games

clipperboy24
11-28-2013, 10:44 AM
NIT, are you joking? You must be trying to rip on the teams???...

Nyfancam01
11-28-2013, 10:51 AM
I hope dook loses!!!

UNC fan :D

nickha2
11-28-2013, 10:58 AM
NIT, are you joking? You must be trying to rip on the teams???...

Its a preseason tourny bro not the one at the end of march

bballcollector
11-28-2013, 11:57 AM
Duke will lose. Duke can't rebound or shot block. If Parker or Hood have a bad game they'll lose. I see Arizona taking this.

toppsfan
11-28-2013, 12:17 PM
Duke will lose. Duke can't rebound or shot block. If Parker or Hood have a bad game they'll lose. I see Arizona taking this.

Duke will win, they need to develop Marshall Plumlee fast but for now they can get around a lack of a presence down low. Sulaimon and Cook play brilliantly in this one and help account for the W.

zonacats8
11-28-2013, 03:05 PM
Duke will win, they need to develop Marshall Plumlee fast but for now they can get around a lack of a presence down low. Sulaimon and Cook play brilliantly in this one and help account for the W.

If there was ever a team that you can't get away with a lack of presence down low, it's Arizona. We make out living in the paint and driving to the rim, if Duke can't defend the post, it's going to be a LONG night for them

bballcollector
11-28-2013, 04:25 PM
If there was ever a team that you can't get away with a lack of presence down low, it's Arizona. We make out living in the paint and driving to the rim, if Duke can't defend the post, it's going to be a LONG night for them

Duke couldn't guard Ellis Perry to save their life. I completely agree with everything you just said. It's going to be tough for Duke. If Duke doesn't shoot well they'll lose.

zonacats8
11-28-2013, 05:12 PM
wow

Just watched the quick video on ESPN of Jay Williams and Seth Greenberg previewing the game and Williams actually picked Arizona, absolutely shocked me that he went against his dukies (all thought he didn't sound happy making the pick)

Bottom line, it's a really bad matchup for Duke as they just won't have any way of defending our bigs in the paint

bballcollector
11-28-2013, 05:47 PM
Duke couldn't guard Ellis Perry to save their life. I completely agree with everything you just said. It's going to be tough for Duke. If Duke doesn't shoot well they'll lose.

Perry Ellis*

zonacats8
11-29-2013, 04:47 PM
Just over and hour till the tip, can't wait to watch my Wildcats take down those damn Dukies

bballcollector
11-29-2013, 05:15 PM
Just over and hour till the tip, can't wait to watch my Wildcats take down those damn Dukies

I'm pumped to watch this game and it's not even my team. I expect Arizona to win this game. Putting money on the money line right now.

zonacats8
11-29-2013, 05:21 PM
I'm pumped to watch this game and it's not even my team. I expect Arizona to win this game. Putting money on the money line right now.

we really should win this game, bad matchups for Duke

But it being Duke, NYC, and MSG, scare the crap out of me, I'm fully expecting to be pissed at the officiating tonight, just hoping it doesn't cost us the game

bballcollector
11-29-2013, 05:44 PM
we really should win this game, bad matchups for Duke

But it being Duke, NYC, and MSG, scare the crap out of me, I'm fully expecting to be pissed at the officiating tonight, just hoping it doesn't cost us the game

How's Arizona FT shooting? It might come down to free throws.

zonacats8
11-29-2013, 06:10 PM
How's Arizona FT shooting? It might come down to free throws.

Horrible to start the season, but has been getting much much better the last few games

This game better not go to triple OT, I'll lose my mind

zonacats8
11-29-2013, 06:13 PM
Son of a..................

shumpert2190
11-29-2013, 06:15 PM
This game is never going to start.

zonacats8
11-29-2013, 06:16 PM
This game is never going to start.

Any idea how long they give them before starting the second game?

JustinVerlander07
11-29-2013, 06:50 PM
Picking Duke to win, mainly because they have the best player on the court, should be a good one, and a close game.

bballcollector
11-29-2013, 06:52 PM
Can anyone tell me why it hasn't started yet? Leaving work now.

JustinVerlander07
11-29-2013, 06:53 PM
Can anyone tell me why it hasn't started yet? Leaving work now.

Game before it went into triple OT.

zonacats8
11-29-2013, 06:53 PM
Can anyone tell me why is hasn't started yet? Leaving work now.

The Drexel-Alabama game went to triple OT

AP4MVP
11-29-2013, 06:53 PM
Picking Duke to win, mainly because they have the best player on the court, should be a good one, and a close game.

Agreed......

bballcollector
11-29-2013, 06:58 PM
Agreed......

AP I miss you!!!!

bballcollector
11-29-2013, 06:58 PM
The Drexel-Alabama game went to triple OT

I'm glad It did. I'll catch the game just in time.

zonacats8
11-29-2013, 07:13 PM
This is going to be an exciting game, great start to it

Nyfancam01
11-29-2013, 07:16 PM
As long as dook loses... I will be happy :D

zonacats8
11-29-2013, 07:23 PM
As long as dook loses... I will be happy :D

Me too :rolleyes:

Junior Griffey
11-29-2013, 07:27 PM
I like this game...a matchup of the next 2 teams Michigan is going to beat this year. :)

JustinVerlander07
11-29-2013, 07:29 PM
I hate this game...a matchup of the next 2 teams Michigan is going to lose to this year. :(

Fixed it ;)

Junior Griffey
11-29-2013, 07:32 PM
You wait your turn! Sparty is going down too! Everyone should be worried after today's destruction of the great Coppin St!

zonacats8
11-29-2013, 07:45 PM
Great first half, should be an exciting finish for sure

bballcollector
11-29-2013, 07:47 PM
I'm confident Zona will play better defensively in the 2nd half.

JohnRyno
11-29-2013, 07:54 PM
Coach K is playing a homosexual vampire in the next season of True Blood.

zonacats8
11-29-2013, 07:55 PM
I'm confident Zona will play better defensively in the 2nd half.

So am I considering how long Miller kept our guys with 2 fouls on the bench in the first half

Johnson and Gordon are going to be well rested and ready to go in the second half

bballcollector
11-29-2013, 08:16 PM
So am I considering how long Miller kept our guys with 2 fouls on the bench in the first half

Johnson and Gordon are going to be well rested and ready to go in the second half

Defense is playing good. Offense is playing poorly with bad turnovers.

zonacats8
11-29-2013, 08:38 PM
Heating up...........

bballcollector
11-29-2013, 08:48 PM
That's what I'm talking about. Thank god I took the Zona ML. Still time left but I like how Zona is playing. Parker and Hood can't carry the team. Duke is getting exposed against teams with height. IE Kansas and Arizona.

Kobe24>MJ23
11-29-2013, 08:51 PM
What a beautiful play.

JustinVerlander07
11-29-2013, 08:52 PM
That was a sick play.

JustinVerlander07
11-29-2013, 09:00 PM
Always nice to see Duke lose and not get ridiculous charge calls.

zonacats8
11-29-2013, 09:07 PM
Great win, held that vaunted Duke offense to just 64 points

Two more weeks till the Michigan game, got my tickets with some fellow Arizona alumni, can't wait

Bear Down Arizona

Fraser9698
12-01-2013, 03:17 PM
Haven't had a chance to watch much AZ being on the east coast, zonacats ---> how has Tarczewski looked this year? Followed his recruitment a bit but not at all since then.

I think the new emphasis on calling defensive fouls is going to hurt Duke with the constant flopping.

zonacats8
12-02-2013, 01:59 AM
Haven't had a chance to watch much AZ being on the east coast, zonacats ---> how has Tarczewski looked this year? Followed his recruitment a bit but not at all since then.

I think the new emphasis on calling defensive fouls is going to hurt Duke with the constant flopping.

He's improving, his last few games may have been the best of his career.

Still doesn't have the best hands in the world, but they are slowly getting better, and for a guy with great footwork down low, he seems to get a lot of travel calls against him, although some have been really bad calls.

He still struggles against teams that don't play a true center at times, which can be expected of a true 7 footer who is at his best both offensively and defensively in the paint.

But when he is on, man the kid is just a load to deal with

Defensively, you aren't going to move him if he doesn't want to move and he is great at protecting the rim, he only has 2 blocks per game, but he affects a whole lot more. And when he is aggressive going after rebounds, he's almost unstoppable at the college level because of his size and athletic ability with for someone that size.

Offensively, if he catches the ball in the paint, it's going to be either two points or two free throws 9 out of every 10 times. He has great footwork, great back to the basket moves, and he's just bigger than everyone guarding him.

The other time though, he's probably going to get stripped because he brought it down too low and for some reason takes it up really soft way too often for a guy who actually has a bit of a mean streak in him.

But if he gets it out beyond that, it's a 50/50 chance he's going to turn it over, or he's going to make an excellent cross court pass to the open man. He is very good at passing out of the double teams, uses an over the head pass as nobody is going to block that, and he throws it on a line and accurate.

Arizona needs McConnell to run the team, it needs Johnson to be this teams leader, it needs Gordon and Hollis-Jefferson to be the do it all guys with unlimited energy.

But if Tarczewski gets it all together this season, which is a legit possibility, he is what could make this team a final four contender, to potentially the favorites to win it all, in my HONEST opinion.

There are very few teams who can put someone on him that's his size and he's learning to play against smaller players also. He can just take over the game in the paint and single-handedly put other teams in foul trouble trying to stop him.