Another ebay scammer to block: treyh21

[440shane]

Just letting the community know to block this scammer. He recently won a card from me for $51 (not a big amount), he sent all the emails about being afraid of damage happening with shipping and asked if I could send the card in a one touch, mark it as fragile and wanted asked for insurance on it. I agreed since insurance on 51 isn't that much. Now I get messages saying the card is great be sees there is a tiny fingerprint smudge on one of the stickers. He wants to keep the card but wants a partial refund....

I think he got a steal since it was a Tristan Thompson/Anthony Davis dual auto /10 from National Treasures and he still wants to try and scam his way to getting it for cheaper. So I suggest to all of you sellers to block this headache before he strikes on one of your auctions.

[xavieronly1]

Maybe you should buy it from him and ask for full refund since he did not put any defect on the listing.
2012 13 Panini National Treasures Anthony Davis Tristan Thompson Auto 'Ed 5 10 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/281227682607#ht_88wt_922)

[the27guy]

Maybe you should buy it from him and ask for full refund since he did not put any defect on the listing.
2012 13 Panini National Treasures Anthony Davis Tristan Thompson Auto 'Ed 5 10 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/281227682607#ht_88wt_922)

Well done.... It's this sort of thing that makes selling on eBay so infuriating.... I hate stuff like this.

[murrke03]

Ha I sent him message asking if there was a small smudge on one of the stickers.

[murrke03]

Actually there is a fingerprint on the Thompson sticker, but you can't tell anything is wrong with the sticker from the photo. I guess you and your friend (who sold me the card) think I'm an idiot. Or maybe you're him using a different username.

- treyh21
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Haha what a loser

My reply

Oh you should probably list that in your description. I mean you agree it lowers value?

Better yet maybe it's Thompsons finger print and you can now claim it as worth more and an eBay 1/1.

I have no friends so I don't understand that last part. Anyways thanks.

[440shane]

Ha, that explains why he just sent me a nasty message thru ebay saying "So you're saying there is NO compromising on sending me a partial refund" Told him no send the card back and I will give a full refund, now I see why he doesn't want to do that. What a flipping loser.

[xavieronly1]

If he doesn't return the card by now, you can claim that he holds on the card too long and it is possible he damages the card while in his procession. The longer he waits, the worse it looks for him.

[440shane]

Oh he is pissed now. Sending me all sorts of nasty messages, calling me names, claiming that I told mmurke to contact him, saying we are the same people because how else would I know he did that. Threatening me with a defamation lawsuit for posting about him and making false claims that he is a scammer, wow. This guy is a real piece of work.

Please everyone block this dude at all costs.

[murrke03]

Hahaha I've got some good messages going back and forth.

Guy is def. a loser. Stay away.

[jlzinck]

I refunded the last a$$hat that had all these requirements in demands after he paid. Really not worth the hassle

[440shane]

Best part is he relisted the item for 3x what he paid and makes no mention of this alleged defect.

He left me a negative calling me a "dishonest, rude human being and I should be avoided like a disease".

Contacted ebay and they said they can't remove the feedback since in his messages he makes no claim of extorting negative feedback, even though he is trying to extort money from me. Claim they are doing a full review of this guys buying and selling history and looking into him stealing my scan and using that as his photo on his listing. But don't think anything will come of that since the item is in his possession. I would have at least thought they would make him switch his negative to saying item not as described instead of allowing him to state derogatory things about me directly and not the item in question. Oh well, can only do what you can do I guess.

Its funny that he claims mmurke and I working together to "defame his character" and hurt his "business" on ebay. What a total loser.

[shrevecity]

and looking into him stealing my scan and using that as his photo on his listing.

If ebay acknowledged that it was in fact your photo you should have made them remove the listing right then and there.

[xavieronly1]

Best part is he relisted the item for 3x what he paid and makes no mention of this alleged defect.

He left me a negative calling me a "dishonest, rude human being and I should be avoided like a disease".

Contacted ebay and they said they can't remove the feedback since in his messages he makes no claim of extorting negative feedback, even though he is trying to extort money from me. Claim they are doing a full review of this guys buying and selling history and looking into him stealing my scan and using that as his photo on his listing. But don't think anything will come of that since the item is in his possession. I would have at least thought they would make him switch his negative to saying item not as described instead of allowing him to state derogatory things about me directly and not the item in question. Oh well, can only do what you can do I guess.

Its funny that he claims mmurke and I working together to "defame his character" and hurt his "business" on ebay. What a total loser.

It is nearly impossible to remove negative feedback in ebay. That's why you have to play the ebay game perfectly. This includes not posting anything in forum before the whole situation is done. That also includes murrke03 shouldn't provoke the buyer before the deal is completed.

While you may get us to call him "loser", but I'm sorry, your negative will be in your history for a year.

[chezball]

thanks op blocked.

[440shane]

It is nearly impossible to remove negative feedback in ebay. That's why you have to play the ebay game perfectly. This includes not posting anything in forum before the whole situation is done. That also includes murrke03 shouldn't provoke the buyer before the deal is completed.

While you may get us to call him "loser", but I'm sorry, your negative will be in your history for a year.

Oh I don't care about the 1 negative feedback from this loser. He was leaving me a negative anyway unless I gave him some money back, so that is what it is.

I am sort of upset that ebay allows him a chance to reply to my reply to his feedback left. Why should the buyer get the last word and another chance to say I called him a "thief". I called him a scammer which is pretty apparent he is.

[shrevecity]

I wouldn't worry about that, your response is perfect all his reply does is make him look worse.

[440shane]

I wouldn't worry about that, your response is perfect all his reply does is make him look worse.

I thought the same thing. Glad to see you all agree with this. It is kind of silly for him to write "that was the only option I provided". What would you be thinking that sellers should provide the option to partially refund payments for whatever reason you aren't happy, but keep the card anyway. The fact that he's reselling it with no mention of alleged defect is what really pisses me off. Why would you think a seller wouldn't try digging into a possible scam and didn't have to dig to hard to uncover this one.

[Russellwilson]

Jesus what an a hole.

[Kane1]

In this week, I read some stories that miss some details and make you have doubts about the issue of someone calling thief/scammer a buyer or a seller. But this one is guilty.

440shane, I recommend you "print screen" that eBay listings as proof. If in the future this guy make some strange move. Also I recommend send your story Ecommercebytes.com site.

For eBay like always. Rules are only good for the big guy trying to take down the small seller. If ToyRUs took your photos unless you make it public nobody cares. Now if you took their photos. I'm sure you are under eBay watch. :D

[murrke03]

Gosh you should see the messages he is sending me now.

[shrevecity]

Gosh you should see the messages he is sending me now.

Well now we all want to know.

[murrke03]

Well now we all want to know.

Haha will post later when I get on computer. On phone right now. Pretty funny stuff.

[440shane]

Gosh you should see the messages he is sending me now.

He keeps sending me messages as well. I stopped even looking at them yesterday after 5 and all BS that came with it. I got 4 more today that I haven't bothered to look at either.

Ebay said I should have absolutely no contact with this individual as they perform their inquiry into this guys account. Maybe he will get banned from there if they can see some of these messages that he's sending to murrke and myself. But again haven't seen any so maybe he's been trying to apologize for his childlike behavior....:rolleyes:

[shrevecity]

If Ebay says they are investigating they are just telling you what you want to hear.

[murrke03]

I probably should just stop replying but its so hard. haha. Anyway heres some of our messages. His replys are in bold.

Oh you should probably list that in your description. I mean you agree it lowers value?
Better yet maybe it's Thompsons finger print and you can now claim it as worth more and an eBay 1/1.
I have no friends so I don't understand that last part. Anyways thanks.

First of all, I don't claim a particular condition in the listing, so no one can say I have it listed as "Like New" when it technically isn't. Second, if there are any questions from prospective bidders, they are free to ask and I'll gladly answered honestly, just like I did with YOUR question.

Lol good work. But seriously I think it's worth more cause it could be Thompsons finger print.

Go away.

Leave the Internet?
Okay.

Ha-ha! I'm perfectly fine on the 'Net. You're perfectly toxic on here

Yes. You are correct. I should be more like you. Buy card ask for partial refund for made up flaw. Get angry when denied. List card for 300% markup and make no mention of 'flaw'.
Congratulations. You win.

I should be more like YOU. Claim a card is NOT flawed when it really is. Yeah, you're my freakin' hero!

Lol. I never said it wasn't flawed. You are selling it as if it isn't though. Funny you want partial refund for flaw yet conviently leave it out in your listing.

For crying out loud, moron! Read the definition of "Like New." It's not that hard to comprehend. It's straightforward and clear. Go for it, hero!

Lol. I can't follow what you are talking about.
Scammers these days.

Ha-ha! That is the most mindless message I've ever read. That's just your way of not holding yourself accountable for misleading people about the condition of that card in your listing. Way to step up and be a man, pal. Ha-ha! NOW I want you to say that "Like New" doesn't mean flawless. Say that now after reading the definition. Sure, you could say that at this point, but that would make you a stone-cold liar.

I think you are confused. I didn't sell you a card.
I'm just a eBay buyer looking for honest sellers. Which you are not.

Ha-ha! I haven't misled a single person. Perhaps the next definition you look up should be the one for "honest." Now go away. Run back to your Internet porn and leave me alone. I actually feel dirty having talked with you.

Ha-ha.
So is the card damaged or not?

Hey, lover, what you should do is read through the first message I sent you again.
XOXO my sweetie.

Yes. Your failure to provide that information in the auction is telling. You are just setting yourself up for a not as described case. I'm just trying to help you out.

Ha-ha! I'll be just fine. Trust me. I actually do not need your advice, contrary to what your schizophrenic brain tells you. Besides that, what is your deal with STILL talking to me on here? Do you not have a life outside of eBay? Go watch TV or finally have that sex-change operation you've been craving

You are the one responding to my messages in under ten seconds. You should ask yourself those questions.

Dude, I just happen to have been at my computer for the past 30 minutes or so.

Okay. Who will message last?

Look, the ONLY reason I'm sending THIS message is because you need to be told exactly how excessively immature you are. Who will message last, you asked? Are you kidding me? Are you 10? Now this is the last time you'll hear from me. Unlike you, I'm a grownup who actually DOESN'T act like a toddler and DOESN'T get some kiddie thrill out of sending messages that seem as if they were written by a fourth-grader. Have a good little life, you hear? Outstanding!

Thank you for the kind wishes. Please do change your scamming habits. Have a good day.

:)

I thought that previous message was you last?

Stop sending me messages through my listing. A notification shows up that I have an unanswered question about the card. THAT'S why I responded. I wanted that notification to go away. I had to respond with SOMETHING, so I sent a smiley face. I hoped you wouldn't reply. Of course I was wrong. I should have known better.

Well I have questions about the card and you keep distracting me.
By the way you can just mark the question as answered and it goes away. Your welcome.

For one thing, I don't have the option to mark a question as having been answered. Otherwise, I obviously would have done that. Second, it's "You're welcome," not "Your welcome." Ever heard of a contraction? You really should learn your homophones.

Actually you do. Every eBay user had the same options. Sorry you can't figure out how to work the site. I guess that's your excuse in trying to scan people.

Look, you freakin' idiot. I'm officially fed up with your ass. Don't freakin' tell me what options are and are not showing up on my end. I'll tell you what. You give me a number at which I can reach your stupid ass and we'll have a little conversation. Sound good, freak?

And I'll tell you another freakin' thing: EBAy will DEFINITELY be contacted about your posting whatever crap you have about me on here. If you think you can get away with saying whatever you want to about people, then you better wise the freak up, buddy. Unless it's true, you'd be better served keeping your finger from banging away on those keys. I'll sell whatever I want to on here and HOWEVER I want to (as long as I sell legitimately, which I have). I haven't claimed any card is in a condition it isn't, or lied about the condition once questioned by a potential bidder. YOU have, however. Hell, you didn't even know the damn definition of "Like New." Just a few words of advice, big guy: Before you sell another dang thing on here, you better at least learn the freakin' definitions of the freakin' conditions so you don't screw over another buyer. I think I'll let eBay in on that bit about you, too. They need to know what kind of incompetent seller they have using their site to screw people over.

Well eBay well likely laugh in your face because I didn't sell you the card. I am a different user who was looking for info on your card and you are now threatening and cursing at me? I'm sure eBay doesn't appreciate that type of language.
I still have questions about your auction yet you continue to go off on me for some reason. If you aren't interested in selling then just let me know.

You've already asked the only question I'll answer from you. Besides that, if you had additional questions, you would have just asked them. You wouldn't continue to mention that you have them. You're a sad human being. Now crawl in a hole and stay there.

Sorry for the late reply.
Can I get an image showing the fingerprint? Also do you have picture of back?
Lastly what type of offer are you willing to accept?

No, no and $538.

What kind of seller are you that you won't provide more info? I thought you were honest.
That price is confusing too.

Look, bottom line: You're a harassing, accusatory little pest with the mentality of a child, and the best thing you can do is stop sending me messages.

yowzers. as annoying as I was I think we can see the kind of seller we are dealing with.

[440shane]

This guy is truly insane. Wow! So sad, that ebay sides with "buyers" like this guy who clearer are trying to scam the system. They have access to all these messages that anyone sends to another member, so if they truly are looking into this guy I don't see how he will be allowed to buy and sell on their anymore. Simple IP searches will see that murrke and I certainly aren't the same person on multiple accounts and they can see him blatantly trying to extort money from me by claimimg it has a defect and then won't provide info to another "prospective buyer" about said defect. Holy cow...

[shrevecity]

I called Ebay about a buyer today who was clearly trying to extort a free item from me and his last 3 feedback left have all been negs. They said they see no wrong doing but would investigate it. So that brought up me telling the rep you don't do anything to problem buyers and allow them to do so and then you let clear shill bidders get away with their acts because they generate more money for you.

I pointed out a well known shill with his 12000 bids with the same seller and over 6000 retractipons.

[murrke03]

It seems like his auctions have been removed? Also no reply from him today? Could it be ebay did something?

[shrevecity]

Doubt it, if Ebay had removed them they would not be visible on his completed listings. He knows his game is up so he is going to slither away for a bit.

[jedi500]

It is nearly impossible to remove negative feedback in ebay. That's why you have to play the ebay game perfectly. This includes not posting anything in forum before the whole situation is done. That also includes murrke03 shouldn't provoke the buyer before the deal is completed.

While you may get us to call him "loser", but I'm sorry, your negative will be in your history for a year.

I actually got a neg removed because I was lucky enough for the guy to contact me asking for a refund and he would keep the cards and remove the negative

[murrke03]

He relisted the card and guess what he put a note about the fingerprint now. Lol

We kept our correspondence and I now convinced him I'm actually interested in the card. Haha he's super nice now.

[440shane]

You should offer him $51 for it, lol.

I would buy it back for that price from you murrke :)

[440shane]

I actually got a neg removed because I was lucky enough for the guy to contact me asking for a refund and he would keep the cards and remove the negative

That's pretty much what they told me he wasn't trying to extort a non-negative feedback, so they couldn't remove it. Even though he was trying to extort money from me and scam the system by twisting buyer privileges. Like I said not overly concerned with 1, sure its a blemish on the record but dealing with this guy it turned out to be a no win situation.