2014 Top 100 Bust Predictions

[seancoyle]

Thought it would be cool to just predict 4 guys on the top 100 prospect list who you think will be busts. We can look back in a year or two and find out who is right or wrong. No bashing on this thread. These are going to be opinions, so please keep it civil. We can start after the top 100 list is released. I will give my 4 predictions.

Miguel Sano- K% is 27%. He walks enough where he will be ok, but he still has a longer swing that can deffinetly show at times. I predict he will be an annual .250 hitter who will hit 20-25hr

Henry Owens- no doubt that he has great stuff. Problem is he has control issues with a walk rate that is not sustainable in the majors. Future back of the rotation starter if not a stud closer.

Javier Baez- nothing negative to really say about him. This one is just a gut feeling.

A.J Cole- doesn't have a solid secondary pitch. Will become back of rotation starter

[37Jetson]

Larry Greene
Austin Aune
Billy Hamilton

[Cubs]

Taylor Guerrieri
Jorge Soler
Trevor Bauer
Adalberto Mondesi

[aggies1960]

Taylor Guerrieri
Jorge Soler
Trevor Bauer
Adalberto Mondesi

i agree with this

[eaglescubs555]

Bundy
Soler
Swihart
Castellanos

[Cubs]

i agree with this

Taylor Guerrieri-tommy john surgery(but marijuana so you never know haha)
Jorge Soler-hot head, and the cubs just have to much money in him
Trevor Bauer-dropped a lot lately
Adalberto Mondesi-watched him play a few games, just dont see the talent needed

[Bradforddorman]

Larry Greene
Austin Aune
Billy Hamilton

Which top 100 list is Aune on? Yankees top 100?

[WCTYSON]

Travis d’Arnaud
Nick Castellanos
Aaron Sanchez
Jackie Bradley Jr

[StraWMyerS]

Taylor Guerrieri-tommy john surgery(but marijuana so you never know haha)
Jorge Soler-hot head, and the cubs just have to much money in him
Trevor Bauer-dropped a lot lately
Adalberto Mondesi-watched him play a few games, just dont see the talent needed

Bauer would be more surprising now if he gets it together, I think he has a decent chance but not putting any $ on it. Soler I could definitely see being a bust. Mondesi its too early to tell, but its hard to justify him being so high in rankings already. Guerrieri I think will be good though, he has great movement on his fastball and I would be surprised if he isn't a good #2-3 starter in a couple years.

[Cubs]

Bauer would be more surprising now if he gets it together, I think he has a decent chance but not putting any $ on it. Soler I could definitely see being a bust. Mondesi its too early to tell, but its hard to justify him being so high in rankings already. Guerrieri I think will be good though, he has great movement on his fastball and I would be surprised if he isn't a good #2-3 starter in a couple years.

Yeah definiteyl guerrie has the best chance out of my list. I saw him pitch a few games this summer and he did well, but only single a. until his injury so you never know

[corockies]

Jorge Soler
Javier Baez
C.J. Edwards
Arismendy Alcantara

[RobbinsDynasty]

Jorge Soler
Javier Baez
C.J. Edwards
Arismendy Alcantara

voted #1 cubbie downer

[a-train10]

Jorge Soler
Javier Baez
C.J. Edwards
Arismendy Alcantara

At least you left out Bryant.

[charbs91]

Sano, Edwards, Mondesi, Polanco

[RobbinsDynasty]

Soler
JBJ
Stroman
Baurer

[teosdesserts]

Any orioles pitcher X4

[superjames27]

62 - Mookie Betts, 2B (BOS)
94 - Taylor Guerrieri, RHP (TB)

Mondesi 38
brian goodwin if he was even on it not sure

[bosoxfan0509]

Taylor Guerrieri-tommy john surgery(but marijuana so you never know haha)
Jorge Soler-hot head, and the cubs just have to much money in him
Trevor Bauer-dropped a lot lately
Adalberto Mondesi-watched him play a few games, just dont see the talent needed

Adalberto will be a top 10 prospect. If you want to unload anything of his lmk.

My busts...
Billy Hamilton
Delino Deshields Jr
Joey Gallo

[SaveMeTheGum]

Bauer's already a bust.

Kris Bryant
Nick Castellanos
Joey Gallo
Addison Russell
Jonathan Singleton
George Springer

[metsplaya123]

Adalberto will be a top 10 prospect. If you want to unload anything of his lmk.

My busts...
Billy Hamilton
Delino Deshields Jr
Joey Gallo
if he will be a top 10 prospect, then you wouldn't have a problem paying double what he sells for right?

[metsplaya123]

biddle
sanchez

[matvoo]

Imo mondesi will be a star in 2016 top 5

[Zoop]

Jackie Bradley Jr.

[bosoxfan0509]

if he will be a top 10 prospect, then you wouldn't have a problem paying double what he sells for right?

I just wish he would've got released in the first 2013 bowman release before anyone had heard of him. And I will give good value for anything of his.

Also, I forgot Gregory Polanco on my list of busts.

[cross4444]

Buxton, because very few prospects live up to these kind of expectations.

[rcspur]

A. Mondesi
Gallo = Mike Hessman
CJ Edwards He will be ok but some expect bigger things than his talent is capable of.


As far as JBJ goes.... he's in the majors....
Bauer is garbage.

[rtcrules]

14 - Jonathan Gray, RHP (COL) - Pitcher + Rockies = Bad
25 - Kyle Zimmer, RHP (KC) - I really like Zimmer, but Royals prospects never make the transition from the minors to the majors.
34 - Corey Seager, SS (LAD) - A future trade chip that just wont reach level of whatever the other team gives up. The opposite of Zach Lee...
73 - Trevor Bauer, RHP (CLE) - Surprised he was on this list

[HYPTZEMDSTRPLES]

Does anyone think Taveras will be a bust?

[mwash1983]

Jameson Taillon-I can see him being the next Phil Hughes type
Jorge Alfaro- sucked when I saw him play, pass ball on a fastball and struck out a few time
Joey Gallo- Cody Johnson
Billy Hamilton- A glorified Endy Chavez

[mwash1983]

Does anyone think Taveras will be a bust?

I think he could be the next Ruben Mateo.

[HYPTZEMDSTRPLES]

I think he could be the next Ruben Mateo.

What have you seen you don't like?

[mwash1983]

What have you seen you don't like?

Very injury prone.

[dbackfan12]

Not really a prospect but tanaka

[HYPTZEMDSTRPLES]

Very injury prone.

He was only hurt last year, right?Thought he has stayed healthy aside from last year.

[bulljh]

Lindor
Bundy
Edwards
Singleton

[Madrid1028]

Is anyone else confused by the scouting rating. A lot of the overall ratings very so much from the ratings in each category.
example
Scouting Grades: Fastball: 65 | Curveball: 60 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 55 | Overall: 60
Scouting Grades: Fastball: 80 | Curveball: 65 | Changeup: 55 | Control: 55 | Overall: 60

[bosoxfan0509]

Is anyone else confused by the scouting rating. A lot of the overall ratings very so much from the ratings in each category.
example
Scouting Grades: Fastball: 65 | Curveball: 60 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 55 | Overall: 60
Scouting Grades: Fastball: 80 | Curveball: 65 | Changeup: 55 | Control: 55 | Overall: 60

Are those actual grades? I believe it's just based on a lot of things and very open to interpretation. I believe control contributes a lot to the overall.

[Madrid1028]

Are those actual grades? I believe it's just based on a lot of things and very open to interpretation. I believe control contributes a lot to the overall.

yeah the one with the lower scores is ranked higher then the other one. I just noticed while going through them that some players had some lower scores but higher overall all and then the other way around also.

[bosoxfan0509]

A lot of it is projectability. A lot on what level they're at and age. Most scouts have current grades and future grades.

[Madrid1028]

A lot of it is projectability. A lot on what level they're at and age. Most scouts have current grades and future grades.

Yeah I know i just figured that would factor into those grades. I have a Knile Davis lot now if ur still looking. I can give you an awesome deal since now we know exactly what cards there are.

[Zoop]

Very injury prone.

He broke his leg once, SO CLEARLY HE'S INJURY PRONE. :special:

[mwash1983]

He was only hurt last year, right?Thought he has stayed healthy aside from last year.

He missed time in 2011 as well I think.

[guitardirky]

A.J Cole- doesn't have a solid secondary pitch. Will become back of rotation starter

How is AJ Cole a bust? He got the Save in the Future's Game last year. He's been talked about as a back end for a while. So how does that make him a bust considering He's up against Strasburg, Gonzalez, Zimmermann, Fister and Detwiler to even find a rotation spot!

[sigmachi]

Francisco Lindor-Will end up being a solid player but not as good as his 5-10 ranking would indicate
Albert Almora-I'll take him off my bust list when I see some power
CJ Edwards-inclined to think he will peter out before he even reaches the bigs as competition catches up to him. Probably a AAAA player like an Oliver Perez or Alan Benes
Kris Bryant-I don't know why but I keep thinking of Julio Zuleta...

[mangia1976]

Any orioles pitcher X4

this x2.

and any royals prospect.

[StraWMyerS]

this x2.

and any royals prospect.

IMO Royals hitting prospects can be misleading because in high-A they play in a terrible hitters park and then in AAA their numbers are inflated in the PCL. Makes it hard to get an accurate read on their in-game power.

[AwesomeJuice]

Francisco Lindor-Will end up being a solid player but not as good as his 5-10 ranking would indicate
Albert Almora-I'll take him off my bust list when I see some power
CJ Edwards-inclined to think he will peter out before he even reaches the bigs as competition catches up to him. Probably a AAAA player like an Oliver Perez or Alan Benes
Kris Bryant-I don't know why but I keep thinking of Julio Zuleta...

Just because their cubs prospects. I understand. Kris Bryant, I guarantee, will be a star. Almora isn't going to be a superstar, but he definitely can be a true Major League starter (unlike everybody on the real cubs save rizzo and castro)

[tingyangs6]

Mason Williams
Joey Gallo

[rseve43]

yeah the one with the lower scores is ranked higher then the other one. I just noticed while going through them that some players had some lower scores but higher overall all and then the other way around also.

Keep in mind that there are intangibles that are tough to assign value to. You have to read between the lines for some of these guys.


Albert Almora is one example of a guy who doesn't have any overwhelming tools, but the sum is greater than the individual parts when taking into consideration his leadership, baseball IQ, instincts, etc.

[sigmachi]

Just because their cubs prospects. I understand. Kris Bryant, I guarantee, will be a star. Almora isn't going to be a superstar, but he definitely can be a true Major League starter (unlike everybody on the real cubs save rizzo and castro)


I remember watching Zuleta at Jackson, TN back when they were the AA for the Cubs. Obviously prospect rankings weren't the business they are now but Zuleta was the star in the Cubs organization. You talk to anybody who kept up with prospects and he was a future MLB all-star. He had incredible power, in fact, other than Mike Stanton I've never seen another player come to Pringles Park with that much raw power. If we had all these top 100 lists like we do now I'd almost guarantee he would be in the top 10-15. I just can't shake the image of Zuleta when I watch Kris Bryant. I hope I'm wrong though because I hate the Cardinals and I'd absolutely love for the Cubs to be successful.

[metsplaya123]

Lots of edwards haters. I got a little giddy yesterday when callus said he could have the best fastball in minors( and that's not even his best pitch?)
Wohooooo

[theflushingmets]

mason williams
bethancourt
aaron sanchez
and im gonna go against the grain and say miguel sano. he's got monster power but big holes in his game people overlook because of his power potential and age

[corockies]

Lots of edwards haters. I got a little giddy yesterday when callus said he could have the best fastball in minors( and that's not even his best pitch?)
Wohooooo

Somewhat hard to have faith in a 48th round draft pick who was traded for Matt Garza. However we won't know for a few more years.

[theflushingmets]

that doesnt me anything besides the fact that texas found a gem in the late rounds. it happens sometimes. i think edwards is the real deal.

[StraWMyerS]

I've been thinking about it and heres my high risk guys that I think are overrated and won't live up to expectations:

Taillon
Bethancourt
Gallo
Soler
Singleton

One guy I'm wondering about is Yordano Ventura. I think he can be really good but I'm still afraid he might get thrown in the pen. Hopefully he comes out hot in 2014 and puts those concerns to rest.

[dasiegel]

Which top 100 list is Aune on? Yankees top 100?
lol x 10

Jorge Soler
Javier Baez
C.J. Edwards
Arismendy Alcantara

i remember when i hated the cubs

biddle
sanchez

agree with biddle


whats all this stuff with billy hamilton not working out, lol? you guys are nuts... if he hits .260 and has 75 SBs... IT WORKED OUT!

I hate to say it but Joey Gallo probably ain't gonna cut it at higher levels.

[theflushingmets]

unless he controls the k's gallos ceiling is russell branyan. i think he's more likely to follow former met farmhand robert strattons career path.

[StraWMyerS]

unless he controls the k's gallos ceiling is russell branyan. i think he's more likely to follow former met farmhand robert strattons career path.

If he switched leagues with Courtney Hawkins last year they would have each other stats I believe.

[Madrid1028]

Somewhat hard to have faith in a 48th round draft pick who was traded for Matt Garza. However we won't know for a few more years.

that doesnt me anything besides the fact that texas found a gem in the late rounds. it happens sometimes. i think edwards is the real deal.

Lots of edwards haters. I got a little giddy yesterday when callus said he could have the best fastball in minors( and that's not even his best pitch?)
Wohooooo

He wasnt a true 48th round pick. He got a 50k signing bonus. Guys drafted in the 48th round get a plane ticket. The bigger question for me is it appears that he graduated from high school when he was almost 20 unless Im missing something here.

[Madrid1028]

He wasnt a true 48th round pick. He got a 50k signing bonus. Guys drafted in the 48th round get a plane ticket. The bigger question for me is it appears that he graduated from high school when he was almost 20 unless Im missing something here.

Just a couple examples real quick Taylor hill 6th round pick same year got 36k signing bonus and Cody Martin drafted in the 7th round got 45k I can make a giant list. Everyone puts too much focus on the round they go in when a lot of guys drop because of sign ability.

[metsplaya123]

Somewhat hard to have faith in a 48th round draft pick who was traded for Matt Garza. However we won't know for a few more years.
he was drafted there because he lived in a no name town and his parents didn't spend money for him to play in any of the big games scouts went to, big deal

[dasiegel]

If he switched leagues with Courtney Hawkins last year they would have each other stats I believe.

great point, hawkins could be a bust too btw

[junebug1129]

Polanco
Mondesi
Giolito
Russell

[Jaypers]

2014 Top 100 Bust Predictions

I'm going with Sofia Vergara and Kate Upton both ranking in the top 5.

[metsplaya123]

I'm going with Sofia Vergara and Kate Upton both ranking in the top 5.
Oh vergera and those boobs, no way she's #1 ahead of buxton. She's so toolsy and athletic oh yea

[Jaypers]

Oh vergera and those boobs, no way she's #1 ahead of buxton. She's so toolsy and athletic oh yea

Byron Buxom?

[death2redemptions]

These "bees" I think will pan out:
Bryant
Buxton
Bradley

But I don't feel the same about these "bees":
Biddle
Bundy
Bradley Jr.
Bauer

[metsplaya123]

Byron Buxom?
Byron busom

[VeedonFleece]

Byron busom

Round these parts 'Busom' means using public transportation to get home.

[theflushingmets]

i think gausman is going to disappoint as well. the orioles have a terrible track record developing pitchers. they've had more than enough talent go through there in recent years

[metsplaya123]

Round these parts 'Busom' means using public transportation to get home.
Ah wow, I like to do a lot of things with bosum too

[death2redemptions]

i think gausman is going to disappoint as well. the orioles have a terrible track record developing pitchers. they've had more than enough talent go through there in recent years

I agree, I think Gausman will be a bust, along with Bundy.

Walker, Wacha and Bradley will be the bigger rookie pitcher success stories.

[Keyser Soze]

Lots of edwards haters. I got a little giddy yesterday when callus said he could have the best fastball in minors( and that's not even his best pitch?)
Wohooooo


Don't get too excited, in the best tools piece Callis did, Edwards wasn't even an honorable mention in the fastball category or any other category.

[metsplaya123]

Don't get too excited, in the best tools piece Callis did, Edwards wasn't even an honorable mention in the fastball category or any other category.
Lol hey besty, I knew I was missing something from my day, a comment from u!

[GB5HOF]

Billy Hamilton...and as much as it pains me to say it, Castellanos. He looks an awful lot like Cameron Maybin at the plate to me.

[death2redemptions]

C.J. Edward will be a bust of epic proportions :devil:

[Keyser Soze]

Lol hey besty, I knew I was missing something from my day, a comment from u!


Just enlightening wayward souls with cold, hard facts.

[HYPTZEMDSTRPLES]

Francisco Lindor-Will end up being a solid player but not as good as his 5-10 ranking would indicate
Albert Almora-I'll take him off my bust list when I see some power
CJ Edwards-inclined to think he will peter out before he even reaches the bigs as competition catches up to him. Probably a AAAA player like an Oliver Perez or Alan Benes
Kris Bryant-I don't know why but I keep thinking of Julio Zuleta...

Heh, 3 players on your list are Cubs prospects.I love it.