eBay Seller's Hurting Themselves.

[RandysHobby]

I would have to say about 9/10 times I PM a seller with a BIN price I'm willing to pay they say no. And about 8/10 times they are goes less VIA auction. Why are people scared to take a BIN that will also save fees?

[wingah]

Today a guy has a card listed for $18.99 OBO + $3.25 S+H....so I offer $15.75 guy turns it down. WTF is the point of having a OBO if you don't accept an offer $3 less then your asking price?

[RandysHobby]

Today a guy has a card listed for $18.99 OBO + $3.25 S+H....so I offer $15.75 guy turns it down. WTF is the point of having a OBO if you don't accept an offer $3 less then your asking price?

I don't get eBay. I want to start a bidding site with WAY less fees. Would it be that hard for someone to do?

[brett06]

Man a quarter for everytime I offered over $100 for a card and won it for $60 via auction. I'd have 4 quarters lol. In the past 3 months. Yes, I'd say they are hurting themselves.

[1eyed_jack]

Today a guy has a card listed for $18.99 OBO + $3.25 S+H....so I offer $15.75 guy turns it down. WTF is the point of having a OBO if you don't accept an offer $3 less then your asking price?

Likewise, what's the point of not just hitting the BIN?

[wingah]

Likewise, what's the point of not just hitting the BIN?

Why would I hit the BIN if it has the OBO option? Card currently isn't worth $22.24......$19.00....which was my offer...was actually $1 more then I wanted to pay. $18 which is the number I would prefer to pay is actually more then what the card is worth but I was willing to pay above the going rate because its a PC player. He has listed this card multiple times and never gets any offers. However to answer your question bluntly....if a card is listed at more then what you think it is worth but has a OBO option and you don't use it...then you sir are either A) Rich B) A poor money manager/business person C) An idiot.

[1eyed_jack]

Out of curiosity, what is the card?

[trixstar]

People overvalue things all the time. I offered a guy 150.00 for a 1/1 i need that won't even touch that at auction and he immediately declined it lol. It'll sit on ebay for the next 3 years

[1eyed_jack]

I think i found the card the guy above mentioned and I could not disagree more.

In my opinion, past sales go out the window when there is only one of that card on ebay.

[wingah]

If the card is the only one listed on ebay...but has been relisted 6+ times with no takers or even offers.....then my guess is that it is over priced. However that is just common sense so oh well. Also someone who PCs that player is most likely to offer you the most for that card because they don't care about resale value....which I don't. However the card is only worth so much to me...and that price is more then what anyone else is willing to pay.....but a few dollars less then what he wants as a BIN.

Point was OBO is STUPID if you wont accept an offer just a few dollars off your BIN price. And my point supported what the OP was saying about sellers on ebay.

[JDOE]

Why would I hit the BIN if it has the OBO option? Card currently isn't worth $22.24......$19.00....which was my offer...was actually $1 more then I wanted to pay. $18 which is the number I would prefer to pay is actually more then what the card is worth but I was willing to pay above the going rate because its a PC player. He has listed this card multiple times and never gets any offers. However to answer your question bluntly....if a card is listed at more then what you think it is worth but has a OBO option and you don't use it...then you sir are either A) Rich B) A poor money manager/business person C) An idiot.

I agree, except if the card is a must-have, hard-to-find pc in mint condition being sold by a reputable seller. I'll pay above market for that. And to make sure someone else doesn't snag it, or the seller takes that $3 off offer from you while I'm hitting the BIN.

[wingah]

I agree, except if the card is a must-have, hard-to-find pc in mint condition being sold by a reputable seller. I'll pay above market for that. And to make sure someone else doesn't snag it, or the seller takes that $3 off offer from you while I'm hitting the BIN.

I agree....I am willing to pay above market for it. My offer was above market. Im not about to pay $23 for an insert /50 that isn't a refractor or HUGE chase card...when I could get an auto /25 of the same player for the same price. I thought $18-$19 delivered was well above what it should get. What really upset me though wasn't the fact that the guy has a BIN price of $19+S&H....that's fine with me...its your card set the price wherever you want......but don't put a OBO and then decline offers within $3 of your asking price. It dumb and a waste of peoples time.

[JDOE]

I agree....I am willing to pay above market for it. My offer was above market. Im not about to pay $23 for an insert /50 that isn't a refractor or HUGE chase card...when I could get an auto /25 of the same player for the same price. I thought $18-$19 delivered was well above what it should get. What really upset me though wasn't the fact that the guy has a BIN price of $19+S&H....that's fine with me...its your card set the price wherever you want......but don't put a OBO and then decline offers within $3 of your asking price. It dumb and a waste of peoples time.

Yeah, I don't understand what the seller is thinking when they are declining an offer for just a few dollars less. I imagine they think you are being a cheapskate because really, at the end of the day, what is $3 more?

What they apparently fail to realize is that collectors buy many cards, and if most sellers knock off a few bucks on their OBO listings, then we save lots of money over the long term for more cards or better offers.

They also must fail to see that your offer is actually the best hey are going to get. Sometimes I will give a seller an above average offer on a card that saves me a few bucks, and they refuse it thinking someone (or me wanting it badly enough) will hit the BIN for just a few dollars more; especially since there is still lots of time left on their auction.

I currently gave a guy a $20 offer on a card that isn't selling for $6 plus $2 shipping in another BIN listing. His is the player's jersey number out of /399.

He's also asking over $6 for shipping- just trying to gauge jersey# collectors.

I could hit the BIN for FORTY FREAKING DOLLARS or wait it out and watch it not sell and hope for a lowered re-listing, but the obtuse sellers never seem to figure out they need to accept less if they want it to sell.

[wingah]

Yeah, I don't understand what the seller is thinking when they are declining an offer for just a few dollars less. I imagine they think you are being a cheapskate because really, at the end of the day, what is $3 more?

What they apparently fail to realize is that collectors buy many cards, and if most sellers knock off a few bucks on their OBO listings, then we save lots of money over the long term for more cards or better offers.

They also must fail to see that your offer is actually the best hey are going to get. Sometimes I will give a seller an above average offer on a card that saves me a few bucks, and they refuse it thinking someone (or me wanting it badly enough) will hit the BIN for just a few dollars more; especially since there is still lots of time left on their auction.

I currently gave a guy a $20 offer on a card that isn't selling for $6 plus $2 shipping in another BIN listing. His is the player's jersey number out of /399.

He's also asking over $6 for shipping- just trying to gauge jersey# collectors.

I could hit the BIN for FORTY FREAKING DOLLARS or wait it out and watch it not sell and hope for a lowered re-listing, but the obtuse sellers never seem to figure out they need to accept less if they want it to sell.

Yea this guy has been lowering his price. He started at $40 or $50 and has slowly been dropping the price. I am almost tempted to make the same offer from my wifes account to see what he does.

Also I agree....Nothing I hate more then $4-$5 shipping.....its dumb and no excuse for it unless they are in another country.

[dherm360]

I've been watching a card that started out at 250.00 slowly decreased and now is at 49.99 and has been listed at that price four times. At auction maybe gets half of that.

Today I had 7.71 in my COMC account, I offered it on an 8 dollar card. Seller rejected-guess he really wants that .29 cents

[1eyed_jack]

I've been watching a card that started out at 250.00 slowly decreased and now is at 49.99 and has been listed at that price four times. At auction maybe gets half of that.

Today I had 7.71 in my COMC account, I offered it on an 8 dollar card. Seller rejected-guess he really wants that .29 cents

Careful, I've heard stories of people making offers on COMC cards, only to get declined and then the card of the price raised on them.

[yourmyboyblue2]

Actually just had it happen to me, guys had a card listed multiple times with BIN/BO. On more than 1 occasion I offered $125 & $150....declined every time. Just received it in the mail yesterday after winning it at auction for $110

[sportscardmania]

I asked a seller on ebay to describe the condition and send me a pic that shows the card taken straight on so I could see the centering and send me a pic that included showing all 4 corners. He described it as 49/51 centering and no flaws and the pic he sent to my e-mail didn't show up as a pic at all, just a blank page, THEN he pulled it off of ebay and never contacted me again.

[thepuffingbilly]

My centerpiece card (BGS 9.5/10 2012 Chrome Russell Wilson Prism /50) was on eBay months and months ago, listed at $999 OBO a while back. I offered $600 with recent sales being ~$450-$500. The guy countered at $800, which I countered at $725 (WAY over going rates, but the card had high subs). The guy said he would do $775 straight pal. I realized how ridiculous the price was so I declined. I bought it a couple months ago for $444 on eBay. The seller now has his card listed for $1200 lol.

His card his price blah blah blah... but why bother. No one is going to pay $1200 for that card.

[hairyangryfella]

I would have to say about 9/10 times I PM a seller with a BIN price I'm willing to pay they say no. And about 8/10 times they are goes less VIA auction. Why are people scared to take a BIN that will also save fees?

You offer them a BIN price, but did they have one on their auction or was it a live auction? You can't blame sellers for hoping to get more, and/or giving all bidders a fair shot to win the card.

[bradical]

Scared money don't make money!

[bigzig]

I don't get eBay. I want to start a bidding site with WAY less fees. Would it be that hard for someone to do?

Creating the site wouldn't be that hard. Getting traffic to it on the other hand...

[thepuffingbilly]

It's all about their guarantee to refund you if you don't get your item. Having that kind of cash would be the main problem.

[CARDFR33K]

Last year there was card I needed for a rainbow. He had it listed at 500 bin or best offer. This player wasn't worth that so I offered him a very solid 350. He wrote me saying I was crazy and he was offended by my offer.. He then took it to auction got 75 bucks for it and blocked me from bidding because my offer "offended" him.

[wingah]

Last year there was card I needed for a rainbow. He had it listed at 500 bin or best offer. This player wasn't worth that so I offered him a very solid 350. He wrote me saying I was crazy and he was offended by my offer.. He then took it to auction got 75 bucks for it and blocked me from bidding because my offer "offended" him.

LOL that is great. Karma

[55clemente]

I think this may be largely a matter of perception. From the seller standpoint, I have only once (out of well more than 100 offers) been offered more than the card ultimately sold for.

The true self harm that most eBay sellers do is in listing at low minimum bid auction instead of fixed price listing over a longer period of time. I suppose if you need the money right away, you don't have much choice, but I'm consistently amazed at how many relative bargains can be picked up in eBay auctions.