Which Card would you purchase????

[shindo03]

I want to factor in 3 things:

1. Player longevity
2. Player staying on same team
3. Potential

So, with that being said. Which card would guys take:

1. Any Andrew Luck Contenders Ticket
2. Any Russell Wilson Contenders Ticket
3. Richard Sherman Contenders Ticket Buyback

State reasons why. Thanks in advance!!!!

[Mattsurewood]

I'd eliminate Sherman--a defensive player, and even if he turns out to be an all-timer, defensive guys just don't carry the hobby weight. Also, barring injury, I'd think Seattle would prioritize signing Wilson long-term and may not be able to secure both guys. I think Sherman will get that Revis-type contract elsewhere. The one turn-on for me about the Sherman buyback is its' limited print run (20 copies).

The other 2:

1. Luck--the Contenders Luck has the ability to be an iconic card similar to the 98 Peyton one. Watching how he brought the Colts back against KC in that wild card game tells me he's got the "it" factor. He's ahead of where Peyton was in his development after his first two years in my opinion.

2. Wilson--just helped bring Seattle its' first Super Bowl victory..because of this, there will always be Seattle/Wilson collectors regardless of what happens going forward. He's great in the community, and Seattle will make sure he is compensated and taken care of. He has the drive to win, and already has one ring. The team is set up for a great 2-5 year run despite playing in the toughest division in football.

**I really think you can't go wrong with either Luck or Wilson but I'd side with Luck, as he seems like the type that could be legendary for single-handedly winning games with his arm and abilities, much like Elway did.

[shindo03]

^Thanks a lot that was great insight. I was leaning with Luck even though I reside in Seattle. Even though I am in Seattle, I just didn't see Wilson winning games, to me it was the Special Teams, Defense, and Running Game that was iconic in getting Seattle to the Superbowl and winning. I was more impressed with Luck's comeback against KC as a QB. Plus the Colts beat both the Broncos and Seahawks in regular season. I think I will commemorate the Seahawks with lower valued short printed cards of members of the Special Teams, Defense, or RB's. Thank You again.

[JHinGA09]

I highly doubt the Luck Contenders will be as iconic as the '98 Manning. The print runs are two totally different things. The Manning is very limited while the Luck is more mass produced.
With that being said, I would go with either Wilson or Luck. Good luck (pun intended.)

[trv4abb]

True on the contenders manning luck theory however there's another guy named Brady who's contenders
is mass produced it seems to b holding up ok but luck definitely needs a ring or 2 in his time to hold up

[jcduncan]

I would say Luck Contenders

[Verufian]

Even though I would kill to own one, don't go after a Richard Sherman Buyback. They are selling for INSANE and there is no way the price goes up after this season. It's not even a RC of his.

Luck contenders all the way.

[JDOE]

Luck, but I'm biased.

I don't think the scramblers hold up as long career-wise- even over the season.

Plus, Luck is the first overall pick, the heir-apparent to Manning, the Indianapolis Colts' greatest player.

Mass-produced or not, I would love to get my hands on a Luck Contenders 9.5

Personally, I really like the Luck Blue Wave rookie the best. I think I will save for a pristine copy some year.

[sportscards0513]

I would buy Luck or Wilson. You can't go wrong with either of them.

[88horsepower]

I would buy Luck or Wilson. You can't go wrong with either of them.

Luck. There's still some upside there if he wins a Super Bowl. Wilson may have capped out for the most part. The Sherman is insanely over the top in terms of price, especially for a defensive player.

[shindo03]

Thanks for all the input guys!

[chutneyfactory]

Luck. They have room to grow.

I had a Wilson Chrome auto 9.5/10 that I bought a few days before the Super Bowl. It was a bit of a risk. I bought at a higher point thinking I could hang onto it even if they lost and thought I got a decent deal either way. After a win, prices barely moved even with a nice performance. I made a little money.

Point is that even with an good defense, maybe not even like Seattle. Luck would have most likely gone lights out just like he did against Denver earlier this season and against the Chiefs in the playoffs. Wilson isn't ever going to put up numbers like Luck or will teams back from huge deficits. Wilson is a slightly more exciting version of Alex Smith. And I think that's the story of his career.

[detox]

There is so much sense spoken in this thread. Especially " Wilson is slightly better then Alex Smith". Where did all this sense come from? Am I on BlowOut?

It's Andrew Luck. With out question

[Hawksmack]

There is so much sense spoken in this thread. Especially " Wilson is slightly better then Alex Smith". Where did all this sense come from? Am I on BlowOut?

It's Andrew Luck. With out question

Man I want to like you. You actually seem like a cool dude. But you just make it so tough. Its Wilson for sure. Its a dynasty in the making. Plus it's about $250 bucks less than a Luck.

[IowaCubs1]

Man I want to like you. You actually seem like a cool dude. But you just make it so tough. Its Wilson for sure. Its a dynasty in the making. Plus it's about $250 bucks less than a Luck.

Wilson. I am not sold on Luck.. People fail to remember that in a bunch of games that he throws 3 picks. Sure, he may be a good QB and have POTENTIAL but man he throws some passes in triple coverage sometimes. Idk may just be me, but I can see Wilson doing a lot. That is just my opinion.. Heck he's a 2x pro bowler and a Super Bowl champ in 2 seasons pro. Plus he quarterbacks for one of the youngest teams in the NFL.

[Hawksmack]

Luck is legit. I just think Wilson is the better buy for the price.

[IowaCubs1]

Luck is legit. I just think Wilson is the better buy for the price.

Not saying Luck is a bad qb at all. I'm saying I personally am not sold on him being the next Peyton Manning. I can see him being a good NFL QB but not the next great thing in the NFL. Never know til it happens.

[detox]

Man I want to like you. You actually seem like a cool dude. But you just make it so tough. Its Wilson for sure. Its a dynasty in the making. Plus it's about $250 bucks less than a Luck.

Here. Kaepernick is aweful and I don't get how he is still riding that unearned hype train. Sorry Wesley. Like me now?

Wilson is a great person, smart man, pillar in the community. Just a great story. Take away his defense, which will happen in today's day and age of the NFL, and he's below average. Good for him that he landed in Seattle. Anywhere else, other then maybe San Fran and he's not the nfl/ fan darling that he is today.

Oh and you deserve to talk hawksmack to me about Denver. I expect it. Hell I'm even getting it from Jets and Raiders fans if you could imagine that.

[detox]

And it should be noted that Foles should be on this list.

Oh yes I did......

[Stat Monsters]

Russell Wilson could be as good as Randall Cunningham, Kordell Steward or like Doug Williams who won a Super Bowl MVP, and all were great players at their best, but as far as longevity is concerned, none are key assets to any investment portfolio.

Since he's won a SB his potential is tempered by the fact he's accomplished what all players strive for, so in certain terms it's only down hill from here and he can potentially only disappoint.

He's a winning QB, but far from being a statistical leader. He won't be the top rushing QB, he won't have the most TD's nor passing yards. He doesn't play in a major metropolitan market despite the "12th Man" hype he's not in Dallas, Chicago, New York nor on a team with longstanding iconic football tradition like Green Bay.

Holders of Wilson cards may be well advised to cash out now, use the funds to invest in undervalued player cards, but not on pure speculation and non performance like this year's crop of so far mediocrity with Geno, Barkley, Manuel, etc. - - but maybe go for a Dalton, Foles or someone else. I'd even say move the money towards Luck.

What goes for Andrew Luck is he's a #1 overall DP and like it or not, admit to it or not, based on his looks and the marketing machine he's more of an All American poster boy for the NFL than Wilson is. I'll say this 'tho, people may remember in the early 1990's a player named Jeff George. Also a #1 overall pick. Also drafted by the Colts.

George threw for 16 TD's and over 2,100 YDs with a 78.3 QB rating (with 12 INT) his rookie year in 12 games started.

Luck threw for 23 TD's and over 4,300 YDs with a 76.5 QB rating (with 18 INT) his rookie year in 16 games started.

So, Luck is no Jeff George. He's set up for potential failure, but because he didn't live up to the hype and is somewhere in the mix and not head and shoulders above Kaep, RG3 or Wilson, and has the potential to rise above, he may be a better bet than Wilson right now.

[Hawksmack]

Here. Kaepernick is aweful and I don't get how he is still riding that unearned hype train. Sorry Wesley. Like me now?

Wilson is a great person, smart man, pillar in the community. Just a great story. Take away his defense, which will happen in today's day and age of the NFL, and he's below average. Good for him that he landed in Seattle. Anywhere else, other then maybe San Fran and he's not the nfl/ fan darling that he is today.

Oh and you deserve to talk hawksmack to me about Denver. I expect it. Hell I'm even getting it from Jets and Raiders fans if you could imagine that.

I really only talk smack when someone else starts it. You were very cool about that win in our thread. Other than the one thread I put up on thanksgiving with Kaepernick and Brees's head on a platter I rarely start it.Just like to finish it. And yes Im a homer and root for my boy. But you got to think about all the crap Qb's I've had to root for growing up with these Hawks. I'm old school man. I remember the Good old days. While you were rooting for Elway and Atwater I had Krieg and Easley. Sorry if I take the Wilson thing a little over board but I've been rooting for mediocrity my whole life. Now we finally got a kid with some talent so don't take that away from me man. Let me have my moment.

[fazzle]

True on the contenders manning luck theory however there's another guy named Brady who's contenders
is mass produced it seems to b holding up ok but luck definitely needs a ring or 2 in his time to hold up


I just wanted to jump in and say that you can't really compare the Brady to either the Luck or Wilson either. Sure the Brady may have also been mass produced, but it wasn't mass collected. There were probably a ton of Bradys that were discarded/lost/just not taken care of when they were new.

[Chrisp253]

http://www.nfl.com/stats/headtohead?player1=MAN515097&player2=WIL777781&player3=BRA371156&player4=LUC524055&position=quarterback&playerOne=Peyton+Manning&playerTwo=Russell+Wilson&playerThree=Tom+Brady&playerFour=Andrew+Luck

People keep saying russ cant throw.. Compare the stats.. Hell throw kaepernick or anyone else in there. Russ wasnt asked to throw as much but think of games last year like atlanta when they let him loose to come back...

Compare his yards per attempt with peyton.. Or how bout who was sacked most? What effect did that have on brady this year.. Completion percentage? Yeah keep hatin on russ.. Just wait til he has a pass blocking line infront of him...

Sidenote: this player comparison tool is awesome! Im gona waste a bunch of time on it tonight!

[rednecksims]

Wilson Contenders but wait for them to settle. Luck's Contenders are more hyped due to him being a number one pick, so to me they are over valued. Wilson's are currently high because he just won the Super Bowl. Once Wilson's prices settle, you have a better chance of regaining value if he was to repeat or win another Super Bowl. I believe they would reach Rodgers value at that point. The other thing you have to consider is which team is set up better to win. If Luck was to reach the playoffs the next three years and get beat out in the first round, then he becomes a good QB that cannot win it all in my opinion and prices begin to fall. Just some different angles to think about.

[Hawksmack]

That head to head matchup link is cool.

[AdamMcDermott88]

Luck Contenders