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k13
02-09-2014, 10:13 PM
Especially the plain one color ones. Basically the whole card becomes a patch. Nothing great about it since who knows where it really came from.

Even the multi colored from NT don't look all that amazing. I kind of prefer the smaller immaculate ones /99

Don't get me started on the silly logomon's, it's just the silly nba logo over and over again lol.

vitin01
02-09-2014, 10:16 PM
Dont you be disrespecting Jerry West now!

GoldenBoy23
02-09-2014, 10:21 PM
Its legoman man

k13
02-09-2014, 10:23 PM
12 13 Immaculate Wilt Chamberlain Acetate Patch Card 10 13 Sick Patch | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-13-Immaculate-Wilt-Chamberlain-acetate-patch-card-10-13-sick-patch-/251416224541?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item3a8993231d)

This looks good and it's a small patch...idk

Oh yeah, is it just me or is immaculate becoming a condition sensitive set. Every top left corner has chipping...so annoying.

Went thru

k13
02-09-2014, 10:27 PM
Like the dude who posted the pat riley one....I know for set but really looks so average.

National Treasures 12 13 Kyrie Irving Rookie Auto Patch 78 199 Nice Patch | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/National-Treasures-12-13-KYRIE-IRVING-ROOKIE-AUTO-PATCH-78-199-NICE-PATCH-/360720533202?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item53fc9e86d2)

does this really look that good?

realreodeal
02-09-2014, 10:28 PM
Some people like Lebron, some like Kobe, some like Paul George and others may like Kevin Durant. Its not up to 1 person to say what people should like. Everyone can like what they want. You don't have to "get it" for it to be right.

Mires
02-09-2014, 10:29 PM
All patches are not created equal! I agree. If a card has a jumbo window that's mostly jersey, it's not very appealing. Sometimes there are exceptions though, like Pete Maravich. To me, any Pete Maravich patch is a good patch.

k13
02-09-2014, 10:31 PM
At least patches look different.

Logoman's and shields all look the same.

Probably just me and getting old.

forgiven1
02-09-2014, 10:37 PM
Probably just me and getting old.

This^^^^^^^^^^;)

hairyangryfella
02-09-2014, 10:46 PM
Yeah man, these suck...

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/657657-mostly-flawless-mailday-huge-one-me-scan-heavy.html

jbmets95
02-09-2014, 10:53 PM
there sweeeet

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac172/jbmets95/Basketball%20NFT/0A747CA0-A69F-4476-97B0-F55E9026C0D9-2776-000001CD826954E7_zpse550c7ad.jpg (http://s897.photobucket.com/user/jbmets95/media/Basketball%20NFT/0A747CA0-A69F-4476-97B0-F55E9026C0D9-2776-000001CD826954E7_zpse550c7ad.jpg.html)

Magicpenny
02-09-2014, 11:03 PM
Pretty much bears down to this, would you rather have a jumbo peepee or a tiny pee pee?

k13
02-09-2014, 11:13 PM
Just stick a crap jersey on the whole card board....
wrap around the other side.
SUPER DUPER OMGZ PATCH!!!!

$10k starting bid

forgiven1
02-09-2014, 11:15 PM
Just stick a crap jersey on the whole card board....
wrap around the other side.
SUPER DUPER OMGZ PATCH!!!!

$10k starting bid

You mad bro?!......LOL!

EMD34
02-09-2014, 11:24 PM
The card design is more important than patch size, but if all other things are equal, I prefer the card with the bigger patch.

AwesomeJuice
02-09-2014, 11:27 PM
because they look #@#@#@#@ing sweet........ not saying single color but like nice immaculate jumbos: http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/664111-your-opinions-asked-rubio-flawless-patch.html

SportsItUpCards
02-09-2014, 11:29 PM
Yeah man, these suck...

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/657657-mostly-flawless-mailday-huge-one-me-scan-heavy.html

Smaller is better.... Especially when it comes to patches! :)

Those cards are MONSTERS!!! That CP3 is SICK! :cool:

jazzmetal
02-09-2014, 11:30 PM
big patches are the best. even the one color ones... the one color small ones look like a boring (tiny) postage stamp)

LeonfromNC
02-09-2014, 11:37 PM
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/611774-flawless-jumbo-patch-rookie-set-25-a.html

Yeah, these Jumbo Patches just suck...

minnesotachill
02-10-2014, 12:00 AM
I don't see why people pay thousands for a small patch when, for just a little more, you can buy the entire jersey.

People are paying $1500 for Durant Immaculate Letters. If you want to see something truly sick, pick up a real gamer and you can have all 6 letters, a logoman, a tag, numbers patches, and name patches.

SportsItUpCards
02-10-2014, 12:07 AM
I don't see why people pay thousands for a small patch when, for just a little more, you can buy the entire jersey.

People are paying $1500 for Durant Immaculate Letters. If you want to see something truly sick, pick up a real gamer and you can have all 6 letters, a logoman, a tag, numbers patches, and name patches.

Not attacking you or anything like that...

The answer to that question, or at least for me it is, that you gotta be a jersey collector. I'm a card collector, and would pay a high amount on a card I like, and not for a jersey. If we were on a bottle cap forum, I'd bet there would be people who would pay $1500 for a Durant bottle cap! :D Same goes for sneakers, some love them, while I don't, and would only like a piece on a card. You get the point...

Point is, some people like to buy the whole elephant in the back yard because they're animal lovers/collectors, and others like to collect just the tusk! :)

Disclaimer: Again, I come in peace... Just trying to explain it how it is on my end, and probably many others.

Rabie1
02-10-2014, 12:25 AM
Exactly what i have been thinking OP. I mean these jumbo patches disgust me sometimes!!

Look at this ugly piece of game used rookie card for example. what the hell were Panini thinking!

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2817/11934805583_e6480f7eaf.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/jbCZU4)


or this ugly card. BRING UD BACK!!

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5514/11744322176_f382562b85.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/iTNHPo)

I think i am going to burn this one over lunch break today

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2823/11751555575_be6aa2beba.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/iUrN4a)

i would much rather have this for example. Small, but does the job just right for you.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg5MDE=/z/RX4AAMXQVERS91Od/$_57.JPG

http://www.troll.me/images2/grammar-correction-guy/go-home-youre-drunk.jpg

SportsItUpCards
02-10-2014, 12:27 AM
^^^^ LMBO!!!!!!!! I nearly fell out of my recliner when I saw your avatar! :D LOL.........

Pete
02-10-2014, 03:31 AM
Exactly what i have been thinking OP. I mean these jumbo patches disgust me sometimes!!

Look at this ugly piece of game used rookie card for example. what the hell were Panini thinking!

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2817/11934805583_e6480f7eaf.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/jbCZU4)


or this ugly card. BRING UD BACK!!

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5514/11744322176_f382562b85.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/iTNHPo)

I think i am going to burn this one over lunch break today

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2823/11751555575_be6aa2beba.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/iUrN4a)

i would much rather have this for example. Small, but does the job just right for you.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg5MDE=/z/RX4AAMXQVERS91Od/$_57.JPG

http://www.troll.me/images2/grammar-correction-guy/go-home-youre-drunk.jpg

Hahaha winner!

kenny3011
02-10-2014, 04:04 AM
I don't see why people pay thousands for a small patch when, for just a little more, you can buy the entire jersey.

People are paying $1500 for Durant Immaculate Letters. If you want to see something truly sick, pick up a real gamer and you can have all 6 letters, a logoman, a tag, numbers patches, and name patches.

For me its resale, you can easily move cards for their market value, but with game used jerseys, it seems people aren't willing to pay as much from a private seller compared to the proper companies

xavieronly1
02-10-2014, 08:40 AM
GU card for trade. GU Jersey for display.

GC1980
02-10-2014, 10:33 AM
Maybe I am old an out of touch but I actually miss cards. I don't get very hype about material cards and such. The trend of these tiny little shots or floating heads with a HUGE jersey just look weird to me.

That said, some of those NT patches people posted last year were nice looking cards.

murrke03
02-10-2014, 10:56 AM
Exactly what i have been thinking OP. I mean these jumbo patches disgust me sometimes!!

Look at this ugly piece of game used rookie card for example. what the hell were Panini thinking!

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2817/11934805583_e6480f7eaf.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/jbCZU4)


or this ugly card. BRING UD BACK!!

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5514/11744322176_f382562b85.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/iTNHPo)

I think i am going to burn this one over lunch break today

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2823/11751555575_be6aa2beba.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/iUrN4a)

i would much rather have this for example. Small, but does the job just right for you.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg5MDE=/z/RX4AAMXQVERS91Od/$_57.JPG

http://www.troll.me/images2/grammar-correction-guy/go-home-youre-drunk.jpg

I guess you like cards that crop out both the players arms and most there body! Haha

forgiven1
02-10-2014, 11:20 AM
Maybe I am old an out of touch

This^^^^^^^^^^^^:)!

airball
02-10-2014, 11:37 AM
I've never realize of some mistakes because I only draw attention to the patch... I dont mind at all.. if the patch looks nice.

Zacy87
02-10-2014, 11:46 AM
I don't see why people pay thousands for a small patch when, for just a little more, you can buy the entire jersey.

People are paying $1500 for Durant Immaculate Letters. If you want to see something truly sick, pick up a real gamer and you can have all 6 letters, a logoman, a tag, numbers patches, and name patches.

For just a little more???

For only $1500 you can own a Cole Aldrich Game Worn Jersey!!! WOOOO!

For a lousy $6000 you can own a Durant Game Worn Jersey. Good call on the "for just a little more."

The MeiGray Group Store (http://nbagameworn.com/edealinv/servlet/ExecMacro?nurl=control/StoreDirectory.vm&ctl_nbr=10171&catLevel=1&catParentID=59011&scId=59011&oldParentID=59011)

Rabie1
02-10-2014, 12:31 PM
I guess you like cards that crop out both the players arms and most there body! Haha

No! i only buy cards to see the player's full body. I do not understand why all their pictures are with jerseys and shorts on :(

murrke03
02-10-2014, 01:02 PM
No! i only buy cards to see the player's full body. I do not understand why all their pictures are with jerseys and shorts on :(

Sorry. Maybe you can search the Internet to see what you are looking for.

GC1980
02-10-2014, 01:37 PM
I guess you like cards that crop out both the players arms and most there body! Haha

That's what I was getting at earlier. While I don't like patches myself, I see why modern collectors would get down with them. I think they may have become a bit ubiquitous but some can be cool looking. I just think when it looks like some of those Immaculates above it looks silly to me. I mean the cropping makes some of these players look like amputees.

End of the day, collectors are free to collect what they love and while you may not "get it", there are others that love it. I'll take my vintage all day but I'm sure there are some out there that would not spend 5k on a beat up, wrinkled PSA 1 52 Mantle when I would drool all over it.

Wings
02-10-2014, 02:28 PM
Jumbo patch doesn't mean the card is designed well. Certain companies should stick to jumbo patches so there terrible designs are less noticeable.

Wings
02-10-2014, 02:41 PM
Although Panini did put out flawless and that set might be the best combo of a good design and jumbo patches i have ever seen. Same with those Black Gold patches. They just put out too much stuff that doesn't seem to be thought out.

WillC
02-10-2014, 02:42 PM
I really live jumbo patches. However, Panini are pumping them out like there's no tomorrow. They need to make sure these cards remain scarce, otherwise they will depreciate in value and nobody will get excited about them any more.

The same thing is beginning to happen with logomen. They used to be extremely rare 1/1 cards but now Panini is making them /2, /3, etc.

That's why I like older sets, back when big patches were truly scarce, e.g. SP Game Used By The Letter, or 2007 Topps Tags, etc.

Mires
02-10-2014, 03:19 PM
12 13 Immaculate Wilt Chamberlain Acetate Patch Card 10 13 Sick Patch | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-13-Immaculate-Wilt-Chamberlain-acetate-patch-card-10-13-sick-patch-/251416224541?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item3a8993231d)

This looks good and it's a small patch...idk

That's a great card, but if it had the same size patch as the premium patch autos, like this Kobe, it would be pretty incredible.

2012 13 Panini Immaculate Premium Patch Auto Autograph Card Kobe Bryant 62 75 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/121242616367?redirect=mobile)

muzikandme
02-10-2014, 03:19 PM
I may be slightly biased but silhouettes are an awesome jumbo patch design.

Zacy87
02-10-2014, 04:08 PM
I guess you like cards that crop out both the players arms and most there body! Haha

Are you a fan of the old Exquisite sets? Like 04-05? 05-06?

murrke03
02-10-2014, 04:42 PM
Are you a fan of the old Exquisite sets? Like 04-05? 05-06?

I'm a fan of nicely designed cards.

Zacy87
02-10-2014, 04:42 PM
I'm a fan of nicely designed cards.

Is that a yes or no?

jj2
02-10-2014, 05:08 PM
I guess you like cards that crop out both the players arms and most there body! Haha

I guess the more exiting option is just to only show the player's head.

gocowboys31
02-10-2014, 05:22 PM
I really live jumbo patches. However, Panini are pumping them out like there's no tomorrow. They need to make sure these cards remain scarce, otherwise they will depreciate in value and nobody will get excited about them any more.

The same thing is beginning to happen with logomen. They used to be extremely rare 1/1 cards but now Panini is making them /2, /3, etc.

That's why I like older sets, back when big patches were truly scarce, e.g. SP Game Used By The Letter, or 2007 Topps Tags, etc.

My thoughts exactly.

Also just think of all the different patch variations in a set such as Immaculate. /99, /25, numbers variation, jumbo, /100, /25 etc etc. Thats a lot of patches of just one player in one set...

murrke03
02-10-2014, 05:55 PM
Is that a yes or no?

which sets are you talking about? care to post photos of the sets you want my input!

murrke03
02-10-2014, 05:56 PM
I guess the more exiting option is just to only show the player's head.

may be better then no arms, .75 legs and half a face! haha

a lot of factors go into the design of a card. paninis poor photo cropping and placement is a huge negative on their designs.

Jayhawkaholic
02-10-2014, 06:57 PM
My favorite jumbo patches ever are the Preferred Silhouettes.

SportsItUpCards
02-10-2014, 07:07 PM
My favorite jumbo patches ever are the Preferred Silhouettes.

Those are nice too :)

crazymj
02-10-2014, 07:09 PM
Yea i'm not sure smaller patches are better...

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo9/mj22333/3F33081F-61DC-4200-B5F6-C67D9CA3BC4D_zpse1eglgzm.jpg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/mj22333/media/3F33081F-61DC-4200-B5F6-C67D9CA3BC4D_zpse1eglgzm.jpg.html)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo9/mj22333/Sold/50310B9F-F20A-4DAD-85D2-6A7D0EAD9E19_zpska9lovi6.jpg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/mj22333/media/Sold/50310B9F-F20A-4DAD-85D2-6A7D0EAD9E19_zpska9lovi6.jpg.html)

Curry

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo9/mj22333/Sold/8CE5750D-8BD3-43C9-BA63-D76B0C3847B4_zpsi60uwsoz.jpg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/mj22333/media/Sold/8CE5750D-8BD3-43C9-BA63-D76B0C3847B4_zpsi60uwsoz.jpg.html)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo9/mj22333/Sold/924DBBC2-5955-4DDF-8A98-BAB69EFA49EF_zpspjqx1jsg.jpg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/mj22333/media/Sold/924DBBC2-5955-4DDF-8A98-BAB69EFA49EF_zpspjqx1jsg.jpg.html)

hotbox
02-10-2014, 07:11 PM
I like FEELING my patch cards.

So bigger patches=more feely time for me.

That's my ironmonkey impersonation.

murrke03
02-10-2014, 07:26 PM
Yea i'm not sure smaller patches are better...

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo9/mj22333/3F33081F-61DC-4200-B5F6-C67D9CA3BC4D_zpse1eglgzm.jpg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/mj22333/media/3F33081F-61DC-4200-B5F6-C67D9CA3BC4D_zpse1eglgzm.jpg.html)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo9/mj22333/Sold/50310B9F-F20A-4DAD-85D2-6A7D0EAD9E19_zpska9lovi6.jpg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/mj22333/media/Sold/50310B9F-F20A-4DAD-85D2-6A7D0EAD9E19_zpska9lovi6.jpg.html)

Curry

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo9/mj22333/Sold/8CE5750D-8BD3-43C9-BA63-D76B0C3847B4_zpsi60uwsoz.jpg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/mj22333/media/Sold/8CE5750D-8BD3-43C9-BA63-D76B0C3847B4_zpsi60uwsoz.jpg.html)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo9/mj22333/Sold/924DBBC2-5955-4DDF-8A98-BAB69EFA49EF_zpspjqx1jsg.jpg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/mj22333/media/Sold/924DBBC2-5955-4DDF-8A98-BAB69EFA49EF_zpspjqx1jsg.jpg.html)

Yeah Panini has serious design/cropping photos issues...

jj2
02-10-2014, 10:46 PM
Yeah Panini has serious design/cropping photos issues...

Does Panini need to include the entire, uninterrupted player image to appease you? You seem very hung up on this point.

k13
02-12-2014, 01:28 PM
because they look #@#@#@#@ing sweet........ not saying single color but like nice immaculate jumbos: http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/664111-your-opinions-asked-rubio-flawless-patch.html

Those are actually nice and not super huge.

I meant more those squary ones... like this...

2012-13 Immaculate Collection The Immaculate Collection Standard #67 - Iman Shumpert/75 - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Basketball/2012-13/Immaculate_Collection_The_Immaculate_Collection_Standard/67/Iman_Shumpert75/7025480)

2012-13 Immaculate Collection The Immaculate Collection Standard #13 - Terrence Ross/75 - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Basketball/2012-13/Immaculate_Collection_The_Immaculate_Collection_Standard/13/Terrence_Ross75/7025426)

jumbo and lame...

12 13 Immaculate Kobe Bryant Lakers Team Logos Jersey Patch SP 6 14 Game Worn | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-13-IMMACULATE-KOBE-BRYANT-LAKERS-TEAM-LOGOS-JERSEY-PATCH-SP-6-14-GAME-WORN-/111263244801?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item19e7ce6201)

^Even this one looks kind of weak, player cropped out...

I guess any "sick" patch will look good small or big but why make a HUGE patch of a plain one color square?

Rabie1
02-12-2014, 01:30 PM
Those are actually nice and not super huge.

I meant more those squary ones... like this...

2012-13 Immaculate Collection The Immaculate Collection Standard #67 - Iman Shumpert/75 - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Basketball/2012-13/Immaculate_Collection_The_Immaculate_Collection_Standard/67/Iman_Shumpert75/7025480)

2012-13 Immaculate Collection The Immaculate Collection Standard #13 - Terrence Ross/75 - COMC (http://www.comc.com/Cards/Basketball/2012-13/Immaculate_Collection_The_Immaculate_Collection_Standard/13/Terrence_Ross75/7025426)

jumbo and lame...

12 13 Immaculate Kobe Bryant Lakers Team Logos Jersey Patch SP 6 14 Game Worn | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-13-IMMACULATE-KOBE-BRYANT-LAKERS-TEAM-LOGOS-JERSEY-PATCH-SP-6-14-GAME-WORN-/111263244801?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item19e7ce6201)

^Even this one looks kind of weak, player cropped out...

I guess any "sick" patch will look good small or big but why make a HUGE patch of a plain one color square?


Because that huge patch of a plain logo ur pointing out is part of a whole logo some people are trying to chase!

forgiven1
02-12-2014, 06:50 PM
You don't like Jumbo patches then don't buy them.. Simple is that.. Now please stop crying!.. Thanks!...:)!

SportsItUpCards
02-12-2014, 07:03 PM
Can you imagine if I had to upgrade my entire collection of jumbo patches to small patches!? That would take a long time... :eek:

I won't upgrade for now.... Maybe one day. I have enough hobby goals as it is.

murrke03
02-12-2014, 07:23 PM
Does Panini need to include the entire, uninterrupted player image to appease you? You seem very hung up on this point.

No. But id prefer not to have amateur crop jobs showing half arms half faces 2/3 a ball awkwardly blocked by a patch window.

jj2
02-12-2014, 08:14 PM
No. But id prefer not to have amateur crop jobs showing half arms half faces 2/3 a ball awkwardly blocked by a patch window.

If someone's missing half their head then, yes, that is a problem (although I can't actually recall seeing any such cards). I think you might be the only person that has a problem with part of the ball or player's arm being cutoff by a patch window etc, however.

OMG. No arms at all!!! 2007 SP by The Letter Kobe Bryant Game Used Jersey Patch 6 BL KB PWCC | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-SP-By-The-Letter-Kobe-Bryant-GAME-USED-JERSEY-PATCH-6-BL-KB-PWCC-/350991552322?nma=true&si=2aWBV46lZRKZUnH8Stt%252FsKr3Fl8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)