Anyone feel like giving advice on a Pick in a hit draft?

[mrlaker]

Have the 5th pick in SCB's awesome break. The first 4 seemed pretty clear cut, but I'm having a hard time deciding on where to go with my pick. Leaning toward the sheed. Thoughts?

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/active-full-group-case-breaks/655197-scbs-2012-13-high-end-nba-buffet-break-hit-draft-flawless-immaculate-gs.html

[Pat3ntP3nd1ng]

Rasheed 1/1 all day

I made a cheat sheet on pg 16 of that thread that gives you an idea of what I feel are the top picks. Numbers 1-11

[GoldenBoy23]

Rasheed and drexler are the choices.

[Pat3ntP3nd1ng]

Rasheed and drexler are the choices.


Drexler shouldn't go ahead of the Horace #1/4 Title Winners. Thats a huge subset in Immaculate. Drexler is max $200 so that would even put it behind the Ripkens and Lilllard RC Patch.

[mrlaker]

pics
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/active-full-group-case-breaks/655197-scbs-2012-13-high-end-nba-buffet-break-hit-draft-flawless-immaculate-gs-17.html

[blackmarkers]

i believe there is a big rasheed collector out there so you could probably get the most out of that card

not sure how much the durant goes for but that one is pretty appealing

the title winners set was all over the place.. super strong sales at first and then it looked like people gave up on the set cause rare cards were just sitting.. i dont know if there were true collectors going for the set or if it was just a price manipulation thing.. i'd rather play it safe and get a nice durant than some ugly card that just might not sell

[hairyangryfella]

i believe there is a big rasheed collector out there so you could probably get the most out of that card

not sure how much the durant goes for but that one is pretty appealing

the title winners set was all over the place.. super strong sales at first and then it looked like people gave up on the set cause rare cards were just sitting.. i dont know if there were true collectors going for the set or if it was just a price manipulation thing.. i'd rather play it safe and get a nice durant than some ugly card that just might not sell

Last Durant I got for $111... One before that was shilled and sold to waxpackcity for $122.50, he relisted it several times and finally lowered his price to $149 and eventually someone hit it. I want the Durant, but it's only a $150-ish card at this point.

[LeonfromNC]

Rasheed 1/1 easy choice.

[smalltown]

Rasheed 1/1 easy choice.

I don't think it is that easy a choice. Unless you're a Rasheed guy. Not all the 1/1s sell very high. I honestly don't see this card being worth $200. Now with that said there's always a chance you get lucky and 2-3 Rasheed guys want it.

The grant is the best card left. That set is highly collectable and i know there are quite a few guys trying to complete it. (harder task than flawless base set IMO)

The Ripkens also may be a better return than the rasheed.

[NetsBK]

I don't think it is that easy a choice. Unless you're a Rasheed guy. Not all the 1/1s sell very high. I honestly don't see this card being worth $200. Now with that said there's always a chance you get lucky and 2-3 Rasheed guys want it.

The grant is the best card left. That set is highly collectable and i know there are quite a few guys trying to complete it. (harder task than flawless base set IMO)

The Ripkens also may be a better return than the rasheed.

Two members in the break thread have already set the Sheer price at a minimum of $350. First guy said he'd pay $250-$300 and to PM him whoever picks it. Next guy said if he thinks its worth more, said he'd pay $350.

[NetsBK]

Sorry for the typos, I'm on mobile and it sucks! I think the Sheed is definitely the best bet though. I don't see another card there worth more than the $350 a member said he would pay for the Sheed patch. Of course if you are looking to add a PC item, pick what you like best! The preranked list the host posted, while not perfect, should give you an idea of the 4 or 5 cards that you should be looking at with the five spot.

[IkeThis]

I don't think it is that easy a choice. Unless you're a Rasheed guy. Not all the 1/1s sell very high. I honestly don't see this card being worth $200. Now with that said there's always a chance you get lucky and 2-3 Rasheed guys want it.

The grant is the best card left. That set is highly collectable and i know there are quite a few guys trying to complete it. (harder task than flawless base set IMO)

The Ripkens also may be a better return than the rasheed.

the grant is about $75-$100 card. The Rasheed patch is way better IMO

[NetsBK]

Originally Posted by got_Sheed? the Sheed should be around 250-300$ and thats what i also would pay for it.

the flawless patches sell from 30-80$ now.one sold for 118$ but was shilled as i know where it is.i bought my /5 for 70$ and the /10 for 60$.so 250$ for the 1/1 is more than fair i guess.

whoever gets the Card please PM me as i would love to complete the rainbow.

thanks

I think the value of that Sheed is much more than $300 more like a $500 IMO. If you're willing to go $300 I will definitely go $350.

[shaner1]

My opinion is to draft the card you like the best. You'll drive yourself crazy just worrying about value and resell. I have the pick after the OP at #6, and I know the card I'm picking may not be as valuable as others , but I like it best. Of course, it may be gone after the OP picks! LOL

[NetsBK]

My opinion is to draft the card you like the best. You'll drive yourself crazy just worrying about value and resell. I have the pick after the OP at #6, and I know the card I'm picking may not be as valuable as others , but I like it best. Of course, it may be gone after the OP picks! LOL

I would tend to agree. I ended up screwing up big time in a high end draft by picking a card that I thought was more valuable than the one I liked best. Turns out, months later, the card i chose is worth about 1/6th of the one I liked best!

[chocsports2000]

Originally Posted by got_Sheed? the Sheed should be around 250-300$ and thats what i also would pay for it.

the flawless patches sell from 30-80$ now.one sold for 118$ but was shilled as i know where it is.i bought my /5 for 70$ and the /10 for 60$.so 250$ for the 1/1 is more than fair i guess.

whoever gets the Card please PM me as i would love to complete the rainbow.

thanks

I think the value of that Sheed is much more than $300 more like a $500 IMO. If you're willing to go $300 I will definitely go $350.

You know how people complain about greed ruining the hobby? This is a prime example. If the guy who's known throughout the world, more or less, as biggest collector of Sheed says he's willing to pay $300, then that's what the card is worth. Instead, you want to pay $50 more than him so that you can extort him for more $$$ because you think it's worth $500??? That's sad and pathetic. Way to go.

[smalltown]

You know how people complain about greed ruining the hobby? This is a prime example. If the guy who's known throughout the world, more or less, as biggest collector of Sheed says he's willing to pay $300, then that's what the card is worth. Instead, you want to pay $50 more than him so that you can extort him for more $$$ because you think it's worth $500??? That's sad and pathetic. Way to go.

To be fair. Just 'cause one person decides what something is "worth" doesn't make it so. If someone is willing to pay $50 more it's worth $50 more. Or $100 more or $1000 more. "Worth" or "Value" is based on what someone will pay for the item. Not the arbitrary numbers we're all throwing out here.

To me the 'sheed is only worth $40. Thats the limit i'd pay for it.

[NetsBK]

You know how people complain about greed ruining the hobby? This is a prime example. If the guy who's known throughout the world, more or less, as biggest collector of Sheed says he's willing to pay $300, then that's what the card is worth. Instead, you want to pay $50 more than him so that you can extort him for more $$$ because you think it's worth $500??? That's sad and pathetic. Way to go.

I think you are confused. No one is trying to extort anyone in this scenario. The first guy posted about his interest in the card and how he would pay $300 because that's what he thinks its worth. The second guy commented that he believes it to be more valuable, and would therefore pay the owner $350. The second guy does not own the card and seems to be willing to pay more than the Sheed collector for it. I don't see how extortion is even coming into question here.

[LeonfromNC]

I don't think it is that easy a choice. Unless you're a Rasheed guy. Not all the 1/1s sell very high. I honestly don't see this card being worth $200. Now with that said there's always a chance you get lucky and 2-3 Rasheed guys want it.

The grant is the best card left. That set is highly collectable and i know there are quite a few guys trying to complete it. (harder task than flawless base set IMO)

The Ripkens also may be a better return than the rasheed.

To be fair. Just 'cause one person decides what something is "worth" doesn't make it so. If someone is willing to pay $50 more it's worth $50 more. Or $100 more or $1000 more. "Worth" or "Value" is based on what someone will pay for the item. Not the arbitrary numbers we're all throwing out here.

To me the 'sheed is only worth $40. Thats the limit i'd pay for it.


Lol. I sure hope you take that mentality when you pick that immaculate base lot at #25 right before me :)!

[smalltown]

Lol. I sure hope you take that mentality when you pick that immaculate base lot at #25 right before me :)!

It may well be. At 25 i'm likely to pick for PC. So i may very well ignore "value".

[Chucky]

Pick what you like. If you are just going for resell value why dont you just offer your pick for sale and take the cash or cards offered.

[LeonfromNC]

Pick what you like. If you are just going for resell value why dont you just offer your pick for sale and take the cash or cards offered.

I wish it were that easy Chucky, but no one is willing to pay for what the pick is really worth so I just pick the best card available and sell it myself.

[Pat3ntP3nd1ng]

You know how people complain about greed ruining the hobby? This is a prime example. If the guy who's known throughout the world, more or less, as biggest collector of Sheed says he's willing to pay $300, then that's what the card is worth. Instead, you want to pay $50 more than him so that you can extort him for more $$$ because you think it's worth $500??? That's sad and pathetic. Way to go.


I am going to excuse your high level of ignorance because I know you have no clue what you are talking about and who you are referring to. In this case you would be referring to me and the dialog I had in a break that I was in (sold my 42 spot).

Now to the issue at hand. If you were able to actually conduct a level of research akin to a 6th grader, you would notice that on page 16 of the Breaks Thread I clearly put out my top 11 picks. Please take note were I put the Sheed 1/1 in my rankings. You may also want to take note of where I put the Ripken's, and subsequent side note on the value of those. You could then infer a relative price which you thought I would put on the Sheed 1/1. This is why I estimate it at max a $500 card and $350 is what I would pay for it right at this moment.

HERE'S THE KICKER, some 25+ post AFTER my evaluation is when a fellow member originally stated his opinion on the value of the Sheed, that I just happened to disagree with but no big deal, disagreements happen and "it is what it is". Im not in the business of buying something someone likes just to extort them (as you so ignorantly insinuate). I collect many of the patch cards from flawless, and even though I am not the self proclaimed Rasheed Wallace super collector I do own some 50+ cards of his. So for you to suggest that one individual has the sole right to own someones card just because you know them as a Sheed collector, not to mention your accusation that I would extort someone just displays the level of intelligence I am dealing with here.

Lets just think here for a minute "Choc", if I am willing to pay $50 more than an individual and they already said they are not going to pay more than $300 for the card, please explain to me how I would extort that person. What, are they really going to want it more after they realize they could have had it but didn't pull the trigger, so now I can charge $400 and make $30 (after fees) on a flip, Ridiculous. That is if they actually would pay that price. If not then I guess Im stuck with the card. Is this what you are saying? - Utterly ignorant. Or are you saying Im going to wait 4-5 years for that person to decide to pay $400-500 for the card, so I can make a substantial profit of $100? Hmmm lets do the math ($100/4 years)/12 months= $2 a month profit. Yep, thats what I am looking for. Truly a great investment. Next Warren Buffet here.

Please do us (fellow collecting community), and more importantly yourself the service by utilizing the thing in your head we tend to call a brain before making such disrespectful allegations of me or any other member.

[Chucky]

I wish it were that easy Chucky, but no one is willing to pay for what the pick is really worth so I just pick the best card available and sell it myself.

I hear what you are saying but how does anyone know what its really worth. My point is if you dont know what card you want then youre probaly not picking a card for PC so the decision is which card can I sell for the most. I was just saying to see what offers would be out there, take the guaranteed money and let the buyer deal with getting the card to sell. Its eaiser for those of us in the USA but for those overseas they have more issues to consider.

[columbusbuckeye]

My advice is to just make a pick within the next hour or so.

You have already been contemplating the pick for over 12 hours now and you're just going to keep driving yourself crazy the longer you wait.

The longer you wait, the more you will second guess yourself and ultimately not be happy with what you pick.

If you are going just on pure resale value then I think the Sheed 1/1 is the clear choice. But, if all you're worried about is resale value, why not just sell the pick to one of the guys that wants the Sheed 1/1?? That way you make your money and they get the card they want.

If you don't care about resale value then there is a plethora of nice cards to choose from. People are saying that the Ripken's will command a high value just because of the numbering, but I don't see that. The patches on both are pretty bad and most people who are trying to put that particular set together don't care about the numbering. The only person the numbering might appeal to would be a Ripken collector most likely, and most of them might not want it since it's technically not a licensed baseball card. I just don't seem them bringing in much more than his other autos have already.

Personally I like the Lillard or Durant Patches if you aren't just picking off of resale value.

Like I said though, the longer you wait the more you could be upset about your pick after you make it. Just listen to your gut and pick what card you will enjoy the most.

[xavieronly1]

Put the card in ebay and see how many would try to beat the $300 mark. Then you will have better estimate on the price. I wouldn't sell a card just based on one source.

[razorsharp]

It's a shame neither of those Ripken's are nice patches.

I would take either the Wallace or Horace Grant if I were you.

[Pat3ntP3nd1ng]

I think you are confused. No one is trying to extort anyone in this scenario. The first guy posted about his interest in the card and how he would pay $300 because that's what he thinks its worth. The second guy commented that he believes it to be more valuable, and would therefore pay the owner $350. The second guy does not own the card and seems to be willing to pay more than the Sheed collector for it. I don't see how extortion is even coming into question here.

I appreciate the educated thought on this accusation.

You know how people complain about greed ruining the hobby? This is a prime example. If the guy who's known throughout the world, more or less, as biggest collector of Sheed says he's willing to pay $300, then that's what the card is worth. Instead, you want to pay $50 more than him so that you can extort him for more $$$ because you think it's worth $500??? That's sad and pathetic. Way to go.

And just so my response doesn't get lost in the shuffle being at the end of the first page of the thread. Here it is Chocsports2000. I hope you can further explain yourself on your thoughts.

"I am going to excuse your high level of ignorance because I know you have no clue what you are talking about and who you are referring to. In this case you would be referring to me and the dialog I had in a break that I was in (sold my 42 spot).

Now to the issue at hand. If you were able to actually conduct a level of research akin to a 6th grader, you would notice that on page 16 of the Breaks Thread I clearly put out my top 11 picks. Please take note were I put the Sheed 1/1 in my rankings. You may also want to take note of where I put the Ripken's, and subsequent side note on the value of those. You could then infer a relative price which you thought I would put on the Sheed 1/1. This is why I estimate it at max a $500 card and $350 is what I would pay for it right at this moment.

HERE'S THE KICKER, some 25+ post AFTER my evaluation is when a fellow member originally stated his opinion on the value of the Sheed, that I just happened to disagree with but no big deal, disagreements happen and "it is what it is". Im not in the business of buying something someone likes just to extort them (as you so ignorantly insinuate). I collect many of the patch cards from flawless, and even though I am not the self proclaimed Rasheed Wallace super collector I do own some 50+ cards of his. So for you to suggest that one individual has the sole right to own someones card just because you know them as a Sheed collector, not to mention your accusation that I would extort someone just displays the level of intelligence I am dealing with here.

Lets just think here for a minute "Choc", if I am willing to pay $50 more than an individual and they already said they are not going to pay more than $300 for the card, please explain to me how I would extort that person. What, are they really going to want it more after they realize they could have had it but didn't pull the trigger, so now I can charge $400 and make $30 (after fees) on a flip, Ridiculous. That is if they actually would pay that price. If not then I guess Im stuck with the card. Is this what you are saying? - Utterly ignorant. Or are you saying Im going to wait 4-5 years for that person to decide to pay $400-500 for the card, so I can make a substantial profit of $100? Hmmm lets do the math ($100/4 years)/12 months= $2 a month profit. Yep, thats what I am looking for. Truly a great investment. Next Warren Buffet here.

Please do us (fellow collecting community), and more importantly yourself the service by utilizing the thing in your head we tend to call a brain before making such disrespectful allegations of me or any other member."

[Rabie1]

Take the Lillard and sell it to me :coffee:

[chocsports2000]

I think you are confused. No one is trying to extort anyone in this scenario. The first guy posted about his interest in the card and how he would pay $300 because that's what he thinks its worth. The second guy commented that he believes it to be more valuable, and would therefore pay the owner $350. The second guy does not own the card and seems to be willing to pay more than the Sheed collector for it. I don't see how extortion is even coming into question here.

You're right, I am mistaken. Sorry NetsBK, misread the post. I thought it was you making the $350 statement, it wasn't very clear that you were quoting someone else. Sorry to anyone else that was upset with my post. With more information on the subject I retract my statement.

[LeonfromNC]

looks like OP went for the Wallace. i would have done the same :)!