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Wolfpack06
04-10-2014, 10:05 AM
Just wondering what everyone's take is on the long-term value of J. Scott Campbell's Spiderman covers. I have been waiting for prices to drop on a few books (namely ASM601) before adding them to my JSC collection, but prices actually appear to still be on the rise. Do you think these covers will come down in price or are they becoming iconic covers that collectors will always chase?

DigsUT
04-10-2014, 10:11 AM
Just wondering what everyone's take is on the long-term value of J. Scott Campbell's Spiderman covers. I have been waiting for prices to drop on a few books (namely ASM601) before adding them to my JSC collection, but prices actually appear to still be on the rise. Do you think these covers will come down in price or are they becoming iconic covers that collectors will always chase?

Unless the market falls out on comics in general, JSC cover books, especially his 601, 606 and 607 will retain and possibly increase in value. This is due to the fact that fans like myself are snatching up copies to put in the collection and out of circulation. They are great covers and NOT VARIANTS. If you can get a minty fresh copy of one of these books at a good market price, I say grab it, I know I will be:p

techtre2003
04-10-2014, 10:51 AM
I'm actually thinking the opposite. I think JSC is currently hot, but just like everything else modern, his stuff will cool back down. It might take a while, I don't think we'll see prices drop in the next few months, I'm just thinking 2-3 years from now JSC won't be everywhere like he is now and his book prices will have leveled off.

Chance
04-10-2014, 11:23 AM
I've been try to link those books to something significant other than JSC, Mary Jane and Black Cat. I got nothing. I don't have access to print runs. So besides the general interest in the three characters and JSC art. Prices should level off when the next hot thing comes two town. Spiderman, Blackcat and JSC are hot now but I can't explain Mary Jane. Maybe the girl factor like with Harley Quinn.

DigsUT
04-10-2014, 11:30 AM
I've been try to link those books to something significant other than JSC, Mary Jane and Black Cat. I got nothing. I don't have access to print runs. So besides the general interest in the three characters and JSC art. Prices should level off when the next hot thing comes two town. Spiderman, Blackcat and JSC are hot now but I can't explain Mary Jane. Maybe the girl factor like with Harley Quinn.

Print runs:

Amazing Spider-Man 601 $2.99 Marvel 74,201
14 Amazing Spider-Man 606 $2.99 Marvel 70,118
20 Amazing Spider-Man 607 $2.99 Marvel 62,517

Campbell appears to be transcending just comics. He is doing art for Disney and that is a big deal. It opens up his art to a completely different demographic than just comic readers. While I would not compare his contributions to the legends like Ditko, Kirby and the like, it is not inconceivable that his art and popularity will stand the test of time, like said individuals. Art is completely subjective and unless he changes his style drastically, I really don't see a drop in his fan base any time soon.

Chance
04-10-2014, 11:34 AM
Campbell appears to be transcending just comics. He is doing art for Disney and that is a big deal. It opens up his art to a completely different demographic than just comic readers. While I would not compare his contributions to the legends like Ditko, Kirby and the like, it is not inconceivable that his art and popularity will stand the test of time, like said individuals. Art is completely subjective and unless he changes his style drastically, I really don't see a drop in his fan base any time soon.

Does anyone know off hand what was JSC first work? Those are the books we should be chasing.

Wolfpack06
04-10-2014, 11:38 AM
I've been try to link those books to something significant other than JSC, Mary Jane and Black Cat. I got nothing. I don't have access to print runs. So besides the general interest in the three characters and JSC art. Prices should level off when the next hot thing comes two town. Spiderman, Blackcat and JSC are hot now but I can't explain Mary Jane. Maybe the girl factor like with Harley Quinn.


This is my concern over the long-term prospects of the JSC Spiderman books. In my opinion, the covers are great and memorable but the books don't contain any key first appearances or big events (as far as I'm aware). I'm just hoping this isn't a Joe Linsner situation where his covers to non-Dawn books caught fire for a while but now aren't worth much more than cover.

DigsUT
04-10-2014, 11:46 AM
This is my concern over the long-term prospects of the JSC Spiderman books. In my opinion, the covers are great and memorable but the books don't contain any key first appearances or big events (as far as I'm aware). I'm just hoping this isn't a Joe Linsner situation where his covers to non-Dawn books caught fire for a while but now aren't worth much more than cover.

I could be completely wrong in this statement(not a shocker) but what about Batman 227, 251 Adams covers. To my knowledge, there is nothing remarkable about the story in the books, but the covers are iconic. This is just one example, I am sure there are many more where the cover is the draw to a certain book, not the story within.

DigsUT
04-10-2014, 11:48 AM
Does anyone know off hand what was JSC first work? Those are the books we should be chasing.

This true first work was in Nintendo Power 6 I believe. As far as comic, probably something to do with Gen13 I would guess, maybe Danger Girl.

Chance
04-10-2014, 11:51 AM
I could be completely wrong in this statement(not a shocker) but what about Batman 227, 251 Adams covers. To my knowledge, there is nothing remarkable about the story in the books, but the covers are iconic. This is just one example, I am sure there are many more where the cover is the draw to a certain book, not the story within.

Those book have some age on them, so that makes the search for them in high grade more difficult. Rarity is always a big factor in collecting.

Wolfpack06
04-10-2014, 11:57 AM
I could be completely wrong in this statement(not a shocker) but what about Batman 227, 251 Adams covers. To my knowledge, there is nothing remarkable about the story in the books, but the covers are iconic. This is just one example, I am sure there are many more where the cover is the draw to a certain book, not the story within.

Also a good point. Some covers do seem to be able to sustain desirability without the book itself containing any key first appearances or events. I was in the early days of my comic collecting habit at the time, but I don't remember the Linsner cover craze lasting as long as the current upswing in JSC stuff. I think it might be a good sign that the market is not going wild for any and every JSC cover (as opposed to how I remember it doing with Linsner) and his Spiderman stuff will always have the built-in Spidey fanbase to keep prices up.

DigsUT
04-10-2014, 12:07 PM
Those book have some age on them, so that makes the search for them in high grade more difficult. Rarity is always a big factor in collecting.

I agree, but there are Batman issues that are just as old and "rare," that do not command the prices these two books do, in the same grade.

natbornkiller
04-10-2014, 12:18 PM
its all about the b:):)bies

Chance
04-10-2014, 12:19 PM
I agree, but there are Batman issues that are just as old and "rare," that do not command the prices these two books do, in the same grade.

But the covers are also imitated making them Iconic. So as the older collectors point out that they were done before, the newbies track it down bumping the price.

DigsUT
04-10-2014, 12:44 PM
But the covers are also imitated making them Iconic. So as the older collectors point out that they were done before, the newbies track it down bumping the price.

It will all boil down to Campbell's staying power. If he is still relevant in the industry 20+ years from now, his covers will still be sought after and collected, at least his Marvel and DC ones anyway.

.....bewbs.... :eek:

Chance
04-10-2014, 12:52 PM
It will all boil down to Campbell's staying power. If he is still relevant in the industry 20+ years from now, his covers will still be sought after and collected, at least his Marvel and DC ones anyway.

.....bewbs.... :eek:

Agreed........

Stat Monsters
04-10-2014, 02:41 PM
Very rarely do covers by artists which are mass produced without any other merit (such as storyline and interior art) go up in notable value based solely on the cover artwork, you look at the legends like Kirby, Ditko, Steranko, Neal Adams, Wrightson, etc. - even modern masters like a Dave Stevens, James Jean, and Adam Hughes and price guides often note the books which have cover artwork by them, but it's more of a footnote than anything else.

The only thing that goes up is the ORIGINAL ART not the published comics.

So, from a long term value standpoint, I don't see a whole lot of sustainability in any artist for cover artwork on published comics regardless of signature series or grades based only on the cover art. If there's a low print run, it's a scarce variant or the issue itself features a 1st appearance of a character or is a fan favorite storyline ("Kraven's Last Hunt"; "Batman HUSH"; etc.); then it has a better chance. Otherwise, the books look nice, really nice, but are far from solid investments, especially with the explosive print runs out there and the lackluster storytelling.

Stat Monsters
04-10-2014, 02:45 PM
This true first work was in Nintendo Power 6 I believe. As far as comic, probably something to do with Gen13 I would guess, maybe Danger Girl.

I think his 1st published (not including fan art) work was with Image. He did a "Caricature" (like those you see at amusement parks) of all of the creators that was in the back section of one of the Image comics) drawing in a pin-up gallery book I think. He also worked on a title called "Stormwatch" which I think pre-dates his work on Gen13, and Gen13 definitely pre-dates Danger Girl. In fact, there's early work of Gen13 in Image Comics (advance advertising art) when it was referred to as "Gen-X" (an issue with Marvel's "Generation X" X-Men mutant title I think forced Image to change Gen-X to Gen13).

Burt-Reynolds
04-10-2014, 02:59 PM
there is no value in his early work. he did a lot of stuff for wildstorm which is where he broke in, and it like all early image books are barely worth the paper it's printed on.

asm 601,606, 607 if anything have been dipping in price a little. these were going for 40-50 bucks a few weeks ago, and now can be had regularly for 25-35 bucks.

for whatever reason people are digging his work right now, and marvel making all his new cover work extremely limited is driving demand for some of his earlier cover work.

he has tons of stuff out there but only the limited stuff is seeing bumps in price. i think his prices are gonna stay solid for awhile but these won't be hundred dollar books like neal adams batman covers.

i sell jsc covers as fast as i can get em. no reason to sit on them and wait for a potential bubble burst. i just sold 5 asm 601's last week for between 30-35 each.