First Look: 2014 Topps Dynasty baseball cards

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First Look: 2014 Topps Dynasty baseball cards (http://www.beckett.com/news/2014/05/first-look-2014-topps-dynasty-baseball-cards/)

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By Chris Olds | Beckett Baseball Editor
Presenting what it calls “the most carefully curated subject list in trading card history” and the “most-premium Topps product of all time”, Topps released the basic information and first looks at its latest high-end baseball card brand on Friday.
It’s 2014 Topps Dynasty and it will arrive on Nov. 19 with every card limited to 10 or fewer copies, every card encased and with every card featuring an autograph. There will be one card per box and only five boxes per case with a factory cost of more than $200 per box.

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There will be a mix of active and retired players as well as legends whose autographs will arrive via cut autographs.
More to come.


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[MikeWilliamsFan]

1 card per box? That's insane

[squirtr]

1 card per box? That's insane

Really, it's no different than some of the high-end that have 1 hit and 4 base per 200 pack.

[jt_1985_2004]

This stuff looks pretty awesome but DANG, high dollar.

[tajikey]

My Oh My, that Ken Griffey Jr. made me salivate.

[Ephland]

So, no 1 color patches or sticker autos?

[nera20]

This could be a interesting product, looks pretty nice but really need to see a checklist first, the mix of ACTIVE Players is a scary because god only knows how many scrub autos they will put in it.

[Gmrson]

1 card per box? That's insane

sure is, and people are going eat it up!

[death2redemptions]

Over $200 per card!?!

Most likely you will lose money on 95% of the boxes produced and will be impossible to make money unless you pull a cut signatures of Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb etc.

None of these cards better have sticker autos.

[awz50]

Over $200 per card!?!

Most likely you will lose money on 95% of the boxes produced and will be impossible to make money unless you pull a cut signatures of Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb etc.

None of these cards better have sticker autos.

What?? You didnt see the Babe Ruth was a sticker auto duhh ;)

[mikecala98]

Even star current autos of Joe Mauer, Longoria, Braun etc. won't sell for over $200. Now if they include the usual suspects this stuff will tank.

[mdh]

Think they will still have redemptions?!?!?!?

[death2redemptions]

Think they will still have redemptions?!?!?!?

100% positive they will.

[jubei777]

For some reason my gut feeling says that this will be loaded. don't know why. I need to check with my LCS to see how much he is allocated which will probably give me a better feeling on it.

[Mattsurewood]

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[Frankp2311]

Hopefully Pablo Sandoval is in this.

[jake312]

MAN, those look AMAZING!

[DJ3k]

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2014 Topps Dynasty Baseball is, to date, the priciest product the company has ever produced with five-card boxes carrying an initial price tag of more than $1,000. As one might expect from a product that averages out to more than $200 per card, Dynasty aims to tap into an ultra high-end marketplace. Every card has an autograph and is numbered to 10 or less. Topps is also pledging to have an exceptional checklist of current superstars and retired greats.

Autographed Patches are all signed on-card. Patch pieces are also over-sized. Basic versions are numbered to 10 while there is also a one-of-one parallel.

Autographed Dual Relics (#/5) all feature baseball legends. Cards are signed on-card and come with a pair of memorabilia pieces.

Fifty Cut Signatures are all one-of-ones. The list of players includes all-time greats like Babe Ruth, Jackie Robinson, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Roberto Clemente and Ty Cobb.

Finally, there are ten Cut Signature Dual Relics. Each of these pair two pieces of memorabilia with an autograph from the likes of Ruth, Clemente, Robinson and Ted Williams. Like basic Cut Signatures, each of these are a one-of-one.

Boxes are packed as five single-card mini boxes. Every card in 2014 Topps Dynasty Baseball comes encased to keep it protected.

Estimated Release Date: 11/19/14
Product Configuration: 5 packs per box, 1 card per pack
Price Point: Ultra High-End Baseball Card
Target Audience: Hit Seekers, Autograph Collectors, Memorabilia Card Collectors

2014 Topps Dynasty Baseball Box Break
5 Total Autographed Memorabilia or Cut Signature Cards
5 Total Cards
Card Gallery:

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2014 Topps Dynasty Baseball is, to date, the priciest product the company has ever produced with five-card boxes carrying an initial price tag of more than $1,000. As one might expect from a product that averages out to more than $200 per card, Dynasty aims to tap into an ultra high-end marketplace. Every card has an autograph and is numbered to 10 or less. Topps is also pledging to have an exceptional checklist of current superstars and retired greats.

Autographed Patches are all signed on-card. Patch pieces are also over-sized. Basic versions are numbered to 10 while there is also a one-of-one parallel.

Autographed Dual Relics (#/5) all feature baseball legends. Cards are signed on-card and come with a pair of memorabilia pieces.

Fifty Cut Signatures are all one-of-ones. The list of players includes all-time greats like Babe Ruth, Jackie Robinson, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Roberto Clemente and Ty Cobb.

Finally, there are ten Cut Signature Dual Relics. Each of these pair two pieces of memorabilia with an autograph from the likes of Ruth, Clemente, Robinson and Ted Williams. Like basic Cut Signatures, each of these are a one-of-one.

Boxes are packed as five single-card mini boxes. Every card in 2014 Topps Dynasty Baseball comes encased to keep it protected.

Estimated Release Date: 11/19/14
Product Configuration: 5 packs per box, 1 card per pack
Price Point: Ultra High-End Baseball Card
Target Audience: Hit Seekers, Autograph Collectors, Memorabilia Card Collectors

2014 Topps Dynasty Baseball Box Break
5 Total Autographed Memorabilia or Cut Signature Cards
5 Total Cards
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Basically only the Cut Signatures could end up paying for a box with the exception of a few players (Trout, Mays, Aaron, Koufax, Griffey)

[Colt9494]

Anyone that pulls the cobb, you may want to PM Me!!!

[Metsfan1121]

This product will ruin the resale of autograph patch cards

[Colt9494]

Basically only the Cut Signatures could end up paying for a box with the exception of a few players (Trout, Mays, Aaron, Koufax, Griffey)

Dude, Koufax won't? Have you seen his Price Market? To pull a cut it will be worth more than the box i guarantee it.

[chrisxacosta]

i rather buy two boxes of this than my normal two cases of 5 star this year.

[thunda99]

This has potential...all depends what Topps puts in as "current stars" because we know what we consider stars is not what Topps considers stars lol

[death2redemptions]

Dude, Koufax won't? Have you seen his Price Market? To pull a cut it will be worth more than the box i guarantee it.

You misread, I said he WOULD.

[MikeWilliamsFan]

Wait it says 5 packs per box or is that 5 packs per case?

[brad9999]

This could really hurt future higher end Topps products considering the quality of relics they will be using, leaving lesser quality pieces of the same players for Threads/Five-Star/etc. Additionally, the cut autos should reduce the availability for nicer chases in the future.

I'm hoping maybe Mathewson gets a cut in this - that would be killer!

[peterose4hof]

This should be fun to do as a group break.

[Zoop]

Lots of Jurickson Profar, Ryan Braun, Prince Fielder, David Wright, and other players that you can buy for $20.

[dhcollecting]

there will be no base cards...its 1 card per box. factory cost is 200 which means after everyone's cut this will be 400-450 a box.

[CMpunk13]

One card per box! So much risk. If only I had the funds I would rip this.

[peterose4hof]

So is $200 an approx. SRP or is that the wholesale price?

[Carrbeaz]

Hopefully Pablo Sandoval is in this.

I have a feeling he probably will be, along with Angel Pagan and Ben Zobrist.

[ziggyz129]

You misread, I said he WOULD.

what about puig?

[death2redemptions]

what about puig?

I dunno, his 2014 autograph cards have been selling in the $100-$150 range.

[marauder03]

I was skeptical at first, the sell sheet makes it sound fantastic, but $200 a card cost is so risky. I can't imagine it is loaded up with the riff-raff, but will have rookies.

[death2redemptions]

I was skeptical at first, the sell sheet makes it sound fantastic, but $200 a card cost is so risky. I can't imagine it is loaded up with the riff-raff, but will have rookies.

The only rookie that would have a chance of getting your money back would be Jose Abreu. By the time this is released his autos won't be going for as much so possibly not even he could pay for the "pack".

Unless Kris Bryant is called up before the September deadline.

[Soxrule111]

So is $200 an approx. SRP or is that the wholesale price?


I believe they are saying $200 is roughly how much each card is going to cost them to produce. So msrp will prob be $350-$500

[death2redemptions]

Also, with a product as high-end as this they better have multi-player autograph cards and unique 1/1 relic autograph cards (bat barrel, bat knob, logoman, etc.) because very few cards will actually let you break even with the price per pack if they don't include them.

[death2redemptions]

I believe they are saying $200 is roughly how much each card is going to cost them to produce. So msrp will prob be $350-$500

At $200 per box (1 card) this product is pretty much a loser, any higher than that and you will get absolutely killed ripping this product.

[k13]

This has potential...all depends what Topps puts in as "current stars" because we know what we consider stars is not what Topps considers stars lol

There's not many current stars....just overrated prospects.

Looks interesting but hate the dark black background.

[hermanotarjeta]

Looks like the ugly child of tribute and triple threads.

For those who are asking for it, this is a great way to die-nasty.

[Davesportscards]

Wait it says 5 packs per box or is that 5 packs per case?

1 Pack per Box.
5 Boxes per Case.

1 Box = 1 Hit
Case= 5 Hits

[Davesportscards]

Don't worry guys. There will be plenty of Trout, Miggy and Rivera Autos. I'm sure Topps will put out 10 Different versions of the same player each /10.

[green4407]

So will there be any new information on the checklist and players included soon or will we only know a few days before like all the other releases? I've never busted high-end before but this looks interesting.

I don't want to get a Carlos Santana, Ricky Nolasco, etc. card for $227 (that's the price my distributor has it at) though.

[redsraysbball21]

This will be a difficult product to buy singles from early on. With everything low numbered, and the fact that people will be spending $350+ on a box (if factory costs are $200), it will be hard to see anyone wanting to sell their 1 card at a big loss. Just psychologically, it's harder to move one low numbered card at a large loss than a group of higher numbered ones (to me anyway).

I just think it has a lot of frustration in store for those trying to buy, but it also could drive up prices people pay on singles. Good for breakers, bad for collectors.

I won't be busting any of this but I am glad Topps is at least TRYING to make something people will want to spend hundreds on in the collecting side.

[coltsnsox07]

Topps version of Prime Cuts! I remember getting an Adam Dunn bat & patch non auto /10 from a Prime Cuts II box(for like $259 I think) and the shop owner said buy another one, it can't be worse, it was a Babe Ruth home jersey/bat/pants/away jersey beautiful quad. This stuff reminds me of that.

[Carrbeaz]

This will be a difficult product to buy singles from early on. With everything low numbered, and the fact that people will be spending $350+ on a box (if factory costs are $200), it will be hard to see anyone wanting to sell their 1 card at a big loss. Just psychologically, it's harder to move one low numbered card at a large loss than a group of higher numbered ones (to me anyway).

I just think it has a lot of frustration in store for those trying to buy, but it also could drive up prices people pay on singles. Good for breakers, bad for collectors.

I won't be busting any of this but I am glad Topps is at least TRYING to make something people will want to spend hundreds on in the collecting side.

You underestimate the power of the weak seller or those who use their credit card to buy cases. In the rush to be able to pay down the credit card bill, their mentality will be that they can take a loss if they don't get the big hit then pay the rest off later. Believe me, the undersellers will end up breaking this stuff only to sell for a loss quickly after release. I am sure there will be some deals to be had on this.

[death2redemptions]

Don't worry guys. There will be plenty of Trout, Miggy and Rivera Autos. I'm sure Topps will put out 10 Different versions of the same player each /10.

I just found this info on Beckett...

NO CARD NUMBERED OVER /10!!!!!!
Including 9 color parallels
Each parallel has three ink variations (red ink, silver ink and gold ink)
Including die-cut versions of each color parallel and ink variation
495 copies of each card

Base Silver Ink /10
Red Silver Ink /9
Purple Silver Ink /8
Yellow Silver Ink /7
Green Silver Ink /6
Blue Silver Ink /5
Pink Silver Ink /4
Gold Silver Ink /3
Orange Silver Ink /2
Platinum Silver Ink /1

Base Red Ink /10
Red Red Ink /9
Purple Red Ink /8
Yellow Red Ink /7
Green Red Ink /6
Blue Red Ink /5
Pink Red Ink /4
Gold Red Ink /3
Orange Red Ink /2
Platinum Red Ink /1

Base Gold Ink /10
Red Gold Ink /9
Purple Gold Ink /8
Yellow Gold Ink /7
Green Gold Ink /6
Blue Gold Ink /5
Pink Gold Ink /4
Gold Gold Ink /3
Orange Gold Ink /2
Platinum Gold Ink /1

Die Cut Base Silver Ink /10
Die Cut Red Silver Ink /9
Die Cut Purple Silver Ink /8
Die Cut Yellow Silver Ink /7
Die Cut Green Silver Ink /6
Die Cut Blue Silver Ink /5
Die Cut Pink Silver Ink /4
Die Cut Gold Silver Ink /3
Die Cut Orange Silver Ink /2
Die Cut Platinum Silver Ink /1

Die Cut Base Red Ink /10
Die Cut Red Red Ink /9
Die Cut Purple Red Ink /8
Die Cut Yellow Red Ink /7
Die Cut Green Red Ink /6
Die Cut Blue Red Ink /5
Die Cut Pink Red Ink /4
Die Cut Gold Red Ink /3
Die Cut Orange Red Ink /2
Die Cut Platinum Red Ink /1

Die Cut Base Gold Ink /10
Die Cut Red Gold Ink /9
Die Cut Purple Gold Ink /8
Die Cut Yellow Gold Ink /7
Die Cut Green Gold Ink /6
Die Cut Blue Gold Ink /5
Die Cut Pink Gold Ink /4
Die Cut Gold Gold Ink /3
Die Cut Orange Gold Ink /2
Die Cut Platinum Gold Ink /1

[jake312]

That is awesome. They look so nice, but even the singles will be a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[Raysfan16]

Bet you a box of Topps Dynasty that the "carefully curated" checklist will have Tyler Skaggs and Jake Marisnick.....

[Carrbeaz]

Bet you a box of Topps Dynasty that the "carefully curated" checklist will have Tyler Skaggs and Jake Marisnick.....

Sadly, I agree.

[Colt9494]

Bet you a box of Topps Dynasty that the "carefully curated" checklist will have Tyler Skaggs and Jake Marisnick.....

Better yet Brandon Maurer.

[Davesportscards]

Honestly. At a Price Point like this is a Bryce Harper really going to cover the cost of the box? I just don't see it happening. Maybe the first couple listed might. But why spend that much on a 2014 Auto when you can just buy his Prospect Auto for $225?

[Raysfan16]

Honestly. At a Price Point like this is a Bryce Harper really going to cover the cost of the box? I just don't see it happening. Maybe the first couple listed might. But why spend that much on a 2014 Auto when you can just buy his Prospect Auto for $225?

His 2013 Five star autos #'d /25 go for 250ish. Toss in lower numbering and patches, then you've got a fighting chance. [edit: but I personally would still buy the prospect auto!]

I think the concept is there. The checklist is what will sink or swim the product.

[Colt9494]

His 2013 Five star autos #'d /25 go for 250ish. Toss in lower numbering and patches, then you've got a fighting chance. [edit: but I personally would still buy the prospect auto!]

I think the concept is there. The checklist is what will sink or swim the product.

It may pay for the box depending on #ing and due to this being high end, low end names sell higher than usual.

[HeyFitzy]

Nice Griffey.....

Still waiting for my ultimate chase card from last June because they are waiting for "premium" patch relics to come in. Looks like they went in this product instead.

Thanks Topps.

[Frankp2311]

It may pay for the box depending on #ing and due to this being high end, low end names sell higher than usual.

Yep. Anthony Rizzo will sell for $35 instead of $7.

[Eamus Catuli]

Yep. Anthony Rizzo will sell for $35 instead of $7.

Whoa! Let's stick to picking on Devin Mesoraco and Didi Gregorius for low-end names haha.

[Bretsky]

Considering what I have pulled in the last six months this looks a hundred times better than some prospect auto worth $2. Might not get a whole $200 back, but I'm guessing the return still will be better than what is currently out there. Isn't this essentially flawless but broken down to one card instead of the six or seven they have for basketball?

[Frankp2311]

Considering what I have pulled in the last six months this looks a hundred times better than some prospect auto worth $2. Might not get a whole $200 back, but I'm guessing the return still will be better than what is currently out there. Isn't this essentially flawless but broken down to one card instead of the six or seven they have for basketball?

Only if Topps embeds precious stones into the cards and packages it into a James Bond briefcase.

[Super8er]

Whoa! Let's stick to picking on Devin Mesoraco and Didi Gregorius for low-end names haha.

Awww, leave Mesoraco alone...:)

I can't afford this, and I'm not a big-time case breaker, so others might know better... but this doesn't seem like a rip 'n' flip type product. Seems like folks looking to do that are almost guaranteed to lose big money. Those cut 1/1's are the only saving grace for a reseller and are probably pretty scarce.

[Colt9494]

Yep. Anthony Rizzo will sell for $35 instead of $7.

No i meant the guy that said Harper wouldn't pay for the box. Heavens no would a low end name pay for a $200 box.

[death2redemptions]

Harper won't pay for the price of a pack (which appears to be roughly $230).

Go look at his recent sales...

2014 Topps Gypsy Queen Baseball Bryce Harper Mini on Card Auto 9 10 | eBay (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335829740&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Fcampid%3D5335829740%26toolid%3D10001%26mpre%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fitm%252F2014-Topps-Gypsy-Queen-Baseball-Bryce-Harper-Mini-On-Card-Auto-9-10-%252F331198574095%253Fpt%253DUS_Baseball%2526hash%253Ditem4d1cf92e0f) $135 Autograph #d /10

Bryce Harper 2014 Museum Collection Triple Relics Autograph 11 25 | eBay (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335829740&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Fcampid%3D5335829740%26toolid%3D10001%26mpre%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fitm%252FBryce-Harper-2014-Museum-Collection-Triple-Relics-Autograph-11-25-%252F331197659751%253Fpt%253DUS_Baseball%2526hash%253Ditem4d1ceb3a67) $129 Triple Patch Autograph #d /25

Bryce Harper 2014 Museum Collection Triple Relics Autograph 05 20 | eBay (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335829740&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Fcampid%3D5335829740%26toolid%3D10001%26mpre%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fitm%252FBryce-Harper-2014-Museum-Collection-Triple-Relics-Autograph-05-20-%252F331199404263%253Fpt%253DUS_Baseball%2526hash%253Ditem4d1d05d8e7) $156 Triple Patch Autograph #d /25

Now his lower end autograph cards go for less than $100....

2014 Topps Bryce Harper Nationals SSP Auto Future Is Now 'D 5 25 | eBay (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335829740&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F2014-Topps-Bryce-Harper-Nationals-SSP-Auto-Future-Is-Now-d-5-25-%2F251520359947%3Fpt%3DUS_Baseball%26hash%3Ditem3a8fc81e0b) $93 #d /25

So his auto, even #d to 10 with a patch, won't go for more than $160

[Zoop]

Harper won't pay for the price of a pack (which appears to be roughly $230).

Go look at his recent sales...

2014 Topps Gypsy Queen Baseball Bryce Harper Mini on Card Auto 9 10 | eBay (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335829740&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Fcampid%3D5335829740%26toolid%3D10001%26mpre%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fitm%252F2014-Topps-Gypsy-Queen-Baseball-Bryce-Harper-Mini-On-Card-Auto-9-10-%252F331198574095%253Fpt%253DUS_Baseball%2526hash%253Ditem4d1cf92e0f) $135 Autograph #d /10

Bryce Harper 2014 Museum Collection Triple Relics Autograph 11 25 | eBay (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335829740&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Fcampid%3D5335829740%26toolid%3D10001%26mpre%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fitm%252FBryce-Harper-2014-Museum-Collection-Triple-Relics-Autograph-11-25-%252F331197659751%253Fpt%253DUS_Baseball%2526hash%253Ditem4d1ceb3a67) $129 Triple Patch Autograph #d /25

Bryce Harper 2014 Museum Collection Triple Relics Autograph 05 20 | eBay (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335829740&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Fcampid%3D5335829740%26toolid%3D10001%26mpre%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fitm%252FBryce-Harper-2014-Museum-Collection-Triple-Relics-Autograph-05-20-%252F331199404263%253Fpt%253DUS_Baseball%2526hash%253Ditem4d1d05d8e7) $156 Triple Patch Autograph #d /25

Now his lower end autograph cards go for less than $100....

2014 Topps Bryce Harper Nationals SSP Auto Future Is Now 'D 5 25 | eBay (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335829740&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F2014-Topps-Bryce-Harper-Nationals-SSP-Auto-Future-Is-Now-d-5-25-%2F251520359947%3Fpt%3DUS_Baseball%26hash%3Ditem3a8fc81e0b) $93 #d /25

So his auto, even #d to 10 with a patch, won't go for more than $160

He is hurt until the ASB, which doesn't help at the moment.

[death2redemptions]

He is hurt until the ASB, which doesn't help at the moment.

Yes, you are right about that. They will probably go back up when he back from the DL but if this will come out when the season is over so most players will be selling less than they are now.

[k13]

People are outraged at the pack price but who are all these suckers paying the amount for some ugly thin card of some overrated prospect who'll be worth nothing in the future but Yay it's (x) color...

I guess topps does not do high end well so enthusiasm is meh.

I can't wait to spend $500 on a pack of the cup this year.

[MikeWilliamsFan]

I am probably going to buy a few boxes due to:

-Low print run
-First year product (likely successful)
-HOPEFULLY a great checklist

and most of all the chance to pull a cut of Clemente, Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb etc...Thatd be amazing

[mmbtvs]

I just found this info on Beckett...

NO CARD NUMBERED OVER /10!!!!!!
Including 9 color parallels
Each parallel has three ink variations (red ink, silver ink and gold ink)
Including die-cut versions of each color parallel and ink variation
495 copies of each card

Base Silver Ink /10
Red Silver Ink /9
Purple Silver Ink /8
Yellow Silver Ink /7
Green Silver Ink /6
Blue Silver Ink /5
Pink Silver Ink /4
Gold Silver Ink /3
Orange Silver Ink /2
Platinum Silver Ink /1

Base Red Ink /10
Red Red Ink /9
Purple Red Ink /8
Yellow Red Ink /7
Green Red Ink /6
Blue Red Ink /5
Pink Red Ink /4
Gold Red Ink /3
Orange Red Ink /2
Platinum Red Ink /1

Base Gold Ink /10
Red Gold Ink /9
Purple Gold Ink /8
Yellow Gold Ink /7
Green Gold Ink /6
Blue Gold Ink /5
Pink Gold Ink /4
Gold Gold Ink /3
Orange Gold Ink /2
Platinum Gold Ink /1

Die Cut Base Silver Ink /10
Die Cut Red Silver Ink /9
Die Cut Purple Silver Ink /8
Die Cut Yellow Silver Ink /7
Die Cut Green Silver Ink /6
Die Cut Blue Silver Ink /5
Die Cut Pink Silver Ink /4
Die Cut Gold Silver Ink /3
Die Cut Orange Silver Ink /2
Die Cut Platinum Silver Ink /1

Die Cut Base Red Ink /10
Die Cut Red Red Ink /9
Die Cut Purple Red Ink /8
Die Cut Yellow Red Ink /7
Die Cut Green Red Ink /6
Die Cut Blue Red Ink /5
Die Cut Pink Red Ink /4
Die Cut Gold Red Ink /3
Die Cut Orange Red Ink /2
Die Cut Platinum Red Ink /1

Die Cut Base Gold Ink /10
Die Cut Red Gold Ink /9
Die Cut Purple Gold Ink /8
Die Cut Yellow Gold Ink /7
Die Cut Green Gold Ink /6
Die Cut Blue Gold Ink /5
Die Cut Pink Gold Ink /4
Die Cut Gold Gold Ink /3
Die Cut Orange Gold Ink /2
Die Cut Platinum Gold Ink /1


If this is accurate that would mean 330 autographs per player. (discluding cut autos)

[Joe]

I will buy a case most likely. I spent 2 grand on freakin Gypsy Queen and got destroyed, I may as well take a stab at getting a rare Ruth or Cobb with that kinda $.

[bbplaya11]

Curious to see a checklist, a 200$ pedro Alvarez would be disappointing

[armyatc22]

Wow has everyone forgotten about Topps Sterling

This is pretty much a revamped version of it without the Basecards

The earlier years of the product had 1 hit and majority were quad/triple/or 5 piece jerseys....these will be all autos /10 or less

I think you need to buy them by the case (5 boxes) to even think of being in the green but if they look anything like the moc ups I think this will be a huge hit.....

[death2redemptions]

Wow has everyone forgotten about Topps Sterling

This is pretty much a revamped version of it without the Basecards

The earlier years of the product had 1 hit and majority were quad/triple/or 5 piece jerseys....these will be all autos /10 or less

I think you need to buy them by the case (5 boxes) to even think of being in the green but if they look anything like the moc ups I think this will be a huge hit.....

But in order for them to be able to keep all the autos /10 or less and at the same time be able to keep production high there will be a lot of common name players that will sell for around $5-$10.

Five Star wasn't a hit in my mind because the resale of the cards were terrible so I don't really see this being a big hit either. I could be wrong, I have been wrong many times in my life so I'll just wait and hold my judgements until it is released.

[calculusdork]

But in order for them to be able to keep all the autos /10 or less and at the same time be able to keep production high there will be a lot of common name players that will sell for around $5-$10.

Five Star wasn't a hit in my mind because the resale of the cards were terrible so I don't really see this being a big hit either. I could be wrong, I have been wrong many times in my life so I'll just wait and hold my judgements until it is released.

I think you are dead-on. Plenty of $400 boxes of Five Star produced $100 worth of hits (or less!). No reason a $270 box of Dynasty can't produce a $50 card.

Of course there will be some huge, huge hits. But just like Five Star, only 1 out of every 10-20 boxes will break even.

[kyle1707]

National treasures 2014 is coming out around same time

My guess why this is being made

I don't like 1 card at all.

Even base # to 1 5 and 10 would help

All depends on checklist.

Has to be small. 30 players?

Very few redemptions

[Tones]

This product will ruin the resale of autograph patch cards
how so? all the cards are /10 so not overproducing. Better in a high end product then a cheap one

[calculusdork]

Even base # to 1 5 and 10 would help

And it would cost Topps relatively nothing to do this, and it would add value ... I don't get it either.

[trixstar]

how so? all the cards are /10 so not overproducing. Better in a high end product then a cheap one

This is not really true, one color is /10 then another is /9 then another is /8 and so on and so on

[MikeWilliamsFan]

This is not really true, one color is /10 then another is /9 then another is /8 and so on and so on

I'm pretty sure that was a joke post .....

[Tones]

This is not really true, one color is /10 then another is /9 then another is /8 and so on and so on
Ok if you have one numbered to /10, /9, /8... thats 55,still not over producing... when you see them put out products and patche autos are /299, /499, or platinum, /1000 or more....

[smalltown]

I'm really torn on this product. I'm a big fan of high end. I bought lots of flawless basketball. I want to like it. I love limited production products. It's just the "look" is not screaming high end to me. On top of the look - small patch windows - looks like something outta base topps. I don't know. just not feeling it. Maybe i just need to see more.

[oldgoldy97]

I'm really torn on this product. I'm a big fan of high end. I bought lots of flawless basketball. I want to like it. I love limited production products. It's just the "look" is not screaming high end to me. On top of the look - small patch windows - looks like something outta base topps. I don't know. just not feeling it. Maybe i just need to see more.

Don't get caught trying to compare high end basketball to any other sport. Basketball is weird in that super high end sells so good.

[DanoLaureL]

When I was writing my review I realized, this was similar to National Treasures, but with Sepia and a slightly different font. Pretty close I guess..

[Vintage Collector]

Only if Topps embeds precious stones into the cards and packages it into a James Bond briefcase.

Flawless Basketball= $1250 for 10 cards - People Said that was insane

Topps Dynasty Baseball= Probably $250 per card or $1250 for 5 cards with no briefcase or top Rookies or "precious stones" lol

The price that flawless cases are currently selling at ($4900 / 20 cards) with a 196% price increase from original MSRP is still 5 bucks per card less than topps dynasty will probably sell for.

I need to see this checklist but there will be a market for it.

Probably like every other set 50% ROI if we are lucky with a shot of a big card.

[nera20]

Alot comes down to the checklist if they don't saturate it with current stars it could be good, but no matter what its still gonna be tough to break based on the price point as a lot of cards are gonna sell far less then the box price

[smalltown]

Don't get caught trying to compare high end basketball to any other sport. Basketball is weird in that super high end sells so good.

Not really comparing the two. Just saying that i like high end. It's more the design thats holding me back. It's just not high end looking. Just seems like something they'd insert into another product - not something special in its own right.

Topps does low/mid end really well. Panini does mid/high end really well. I wish they'd learn a bit from each other.

[cwbkrak]

Wonder where they keep finding these Ruth auto's?

[texgator]

Wonder where they keep finding these Ruth auto's?

They recycle. Buy the ones they inserted last year in Triple Threads back on Ebay and then re-insert them into Dynasty.

[edhou1]

Wonder where they keep finding these Ruth auto's?

Um...there are a lot of Ruth autos out there. It's not like he's a particularly scarce auto. Super high demand obviously, but not extraordinarily rare.

[21ccl]

Just pick the cards on eBay. 200 $ for a card?

[BlueSunday1287]

Just a glorified Topps Sterling without the "category" or "Player" boxes?

[Brobocop]

$294.95 a box is the opening price on Blowout. $300 for one card, wow, just wow. And people thought Flawless Basketball was crazy, that was only $120 a card when it first came out.

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[Swjrp10]

Soooo when can I get my Dynasty Bucky Dent auto /10? Lol

[Zoop]

$294.95 a box is the opening price on Blowout. $300 for one card, wow, just wow. And people thought Flawless Basketball was crazy, that was only $120 a card when it first came out.

2014 Topps Dynasty Baseball Hobby Box - $294.95 : Blowout Cards - Sports Cards and Trading Cards Wholesale Online Store (http://www.blowoutcards.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9374&utm_source=This+Just+In+2014-05-27&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=This+Just+In)

Ridiculous. Just ridiculous. You can buy most cards you'd want for that on eBay, be it 1/1s or amazing patches or auto buttons or even bat barrels. The only stuff you can't get for that is the Ruth, Gehrig, etc. autos.

[mikecala98]

The fact that there will be RC's in there bothers me. Sure Abreu sells well now, but after being in EVERY product he won't return you a profit.

[Ephland]

The fact that there will be RC's in there bothers me. Sure Abreu sells well now, but after being in EVERY product he won't return you a profit.

where are you seeing that?

[peterose4hof]

I can't think of any scenario where it make sense to open this product at $300/box. Even in a group break it's likely only one person out of 5 will get something worth their buy-in. (Maybe 2 if it's a great case)

[EJohnson]

Looks fancy, that's about it honestly.

[mikecala98]

where are you seeing that?

George Springer is listed as part of the set, meaning there are RC's.

[DUCKanay]

Must resist...
Won't succeed...

[Ephland]

George Springer is listed as part of the set, meaning there are RC's.

again I ask, where are you seeing that?

[death2redemptions]

again I ask, where are you seeing that?

Right here...

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/721025-george-springer-fire.html

[Carrbeaz]

Should have been 3 cards per box/pack at that price point.

[texgator]

I can't think of any scenario where it make sense to open this product at $300/box. Even in a group break it's likely only one person out of 5 will get something worth their buy-in. (Maybe 2 if it's a great case)

1 out of 5 getting their buy in worth would be equal to or better than most group break rates of success. 2 out of 5 would be crazy high.

[pepsiporch]

$294.95 a box is the opening price on Blowout. $300 for one card, wow, just wow. And people thought Flawless Basketball was crazy, that was only $120 a card when it first came out.

2014 Topps Dynasty Baseball Hobby Box - $294.95 : Blowout Cards - Sports Cards and Trading Cards Wholesale Online Store (http://www.blowoutcards.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9374&utm_source=This+Just+In+2014-05-27&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=This+Just+In)

Looks like people are buying it .

I remember when people said flawless will never sell.
its at $5k a case now

[death2redemptions]

I can't find any way of justifying paying $300 per card.

Basically only 1/1 cards can end up breaking even with the price of a pack/card.

MAYBE a few players with auto patches #d /10 could make you $300. Koufax, Trout, Aaron and Mays are the only ones I think that could.

[texgator]

Seriously...if I had $300 to spend on a single card and I wanted to be surprised I would just gift $300 to a buddy and tell him to buy me the best $300 card he could find on Ebay. I would still get the thrill of opening the package and not knowing what was coming out, but at least I would know that I was getting what I paid for.

Having said that...I would likely never be in a position to spend $300 for a single card that I wasn't choosing very carefully.

[pepsiporch]

I can't find any way of justifying paying $300 per card.

Basically only 1/1 cards can end up breaking even with the price of a pack/card.

MAYBE a few players with auto patches #d /10 could make you $300. Koufax, Trout, Aaron and Mays are the only ones I think that could.

You got to understand worst case you will get back $700-1000 on this
case hit will be over $500 then 4 cards at $50-$75.
Anything that does that usually sells well and goes up .

[death2redemptions]

You got to understand worst case you will get back $700-1000 on this
case hit will be over $500 then 4 cards at $50-$75.
Anything that does that usually sells well and goes up .

I have always been a pessimist but I think your expectations are a little high. I think a case of five cards could very easily only land you $200 in sale value and with Topps there isn't always a case hit. Take Five Star for example, people expected a case hit but most of the time there was never anything special in their cases. Nothing that could be considered a case hit.

[k13]

Are the /10 full of typical topps parallels?

If so, no thanks.

Flawless, immaculate, cup, exquisite actually make sense.
This....idk

[charbs91]

Didn't want to make a new thread, anyone else preorder any?

I'm gonna grab one and possibly a 2nd case.

Actually like the idea and have a feeling it'll be loaded!

[MikeWilliamsFan]

Didn't want to make a new thread, anyone else preorder any?

I'm gonna grab one and possibly a 2nd case.

Actually like the idea and have a feeling it'll be loaded!

I might buy a few boxes. Topps usually does well with new products and such a low print run will give a good chance at a cut

[smalltown]

Didn't want to make a new thread, anyone else preorder any?

I'm gonna grab one and possibly a 2nd case.

Actually like the idea and have a feeling it'll be loaded!

My ten foot pole is in my closet and not coming out. As much as i want to like it and i really do want to like it. Topps does just such a poor job with high end releases. Their track record is scaring me away.

[fctryseald]

I don't believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that Topps has ever put out a successful high end product. So they need to do that first before I will ever pre-order blindly. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...

[mcgoo2]

I don't believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that Topps has ever put out a successful high end product. So they need to do that first before I will ever pre-order blindly. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...

I just don't know if there's a market for such a high end product. Topps has been successful at a certain point with the 50/pack products (museum collection, tribute, triple threads) but, a $300 card is a whole different beast.

[charbs91]

I'm hoping for Tanaka to squeak in this, if he turns up in any 2014 product it'll be this.

I just don't like museum and tier one because a case cost is similar and you might be lucky to get 3 keeepable good hits and a bunch of useless cards.

I want less fluff and more of the goods, hopefully the checklist is as good as they are trying to make it seem.

[charbs91]

Anyone know when pricing will be back up???

Was hoping to grab another case

[armyatc22]

Does anyone not remember Topps Sterling? This is just a revamped version that looks a lot better

People bought it up back then and people will still buy it up now. Just because you don't buy it doesn't mean the big ballers are not swooping up cases left and right

[charbs91]

Does anyone not remember Topps Sterling? This is just a revamped version that looks a lot better

People bought it up back then and people will still buy it up now. Just because you don't buy it doesn't mean the big ballers are not swooping up cases left and right

Your right people must be buying back for sale now at $1600 a case!

Just gonna stick with my one, how high could this actually go? This better be the highest end product ever lol

[85GoCards]

Does anyone not remember Topps Sterling? This is just a revamped version that looks a lot better

People bought it up back then and people will still buy it up now. Just because you don't buy it doesn't mean the big ballers are not swooping up cases left and right

I get the general comparison to Sterling, but if you remember correctly, Sterling commonly had single color jerseys and bat relics with no autos. IF you got an auto, it was a sticker at least 50% of the time...maybe more.

I think doing a direct comparison to Sterling is a bit of a stretch since everything is signed, on card or cut, and relics will be premium.

If a few breaks post that have clear case hits ($500+) cards, I think this has the potential to climb extremely high. Obviously more information (production, checklist, etc) is needed before we'll know for sure.

[85GoCards]

Does anyone have guesses on production? There appears to only be 5 types of cards, auto patch (#/10), auto patch (#1/1), cut auto (#1/1), legend dual relic auto (#/5), and cut dual relic auto (#1/1). Did I leave anything out?

Assuming no variations on the auto patch and Topps sticking to something in the ballpark of their "carefully curated" claim, I can't see a checklist of more than 30-35 players on the auto patches and maybe 10 or so for the on card legends.

This would mean 350 auto patch #/10, 35 auto patch #1/1, 50 cuts #1/1, 50 legends #/5, and 10 cut legends #1/1. Divide this by 5 (as there are 5 boxes in a case) and you get 99.

Is there any way Topps would limit this down to 100 cases? If by some random accident these numbers are correct, there'd be 95 1/1's in a production run of 100 cases. This seems like an EXTREMELY high probability to pull a 1/1 & EXTREMELY low production to me, but I'm not sure how else Topps can pull this off without having scrubs on the checklist?

[Keyser Soze]

I can't wait for those Angel Pagan 1-color "patch" sticker-auto redemptions to start hitting ebay!!!

[death2redemptions]

Does anyone have guesses on production? There appears to only be 5 types of cards, auto patch (#/10), auto patch (#1/1), cut auto (#1/1), legend dual relic auto (#/5), and cut dual relic auto (#1/1). Did I leave anything out?

Assuming no variations on the auto patch and Topps sticking to something in the ballpark of their "carefully curated" claim, I can't see a checklist of more than 30-35 players on the auto patches and maybe 10 or so for the on card legends.

This would mean 350 auto patch #/10, 35 auto patch #1/1, 50 cuts #1/1, 50 legends #/5, and 10 cut legends #1/1. Divide this by 5 (as there are 5 boxes in a case) and you get 99.

Is there any way Topps would limit this down to 100 cases? If by some random accident these numbers are correct, there'd be 95 1/1's in a production run of 100 cases. This seems like an EXTREMELY high probability to pull a 1/1 & EXTREMELY low production to me, but I'm not sure how else Topps can pull this off without having scrubs on the checklist?

I have to believe there are other cards in this product because I can't see Topps limiting their production on a product down to 100 cases. You would think they would list "only 100 cases produced" on their sell sheet because that would definitely boost sales.

I mean, it is possible...but seems unlikely.

[jubei777]

I think that they will have multiple player autos #/whatever but with different pictures. there's no chance that there's only 100 cases. that's pretty much shooting themselves in the foot if there's demand for the product.

[charbs91]

Does anyone have guesses on production? There appears to only be 5 types of cards, auto patch (#/10), auto patch (#1/1), cut auto (#1/1), legend dual relic auto (#/5), and cut dual relic auto (#1/1). Did I leave anything out?

Assuming no variations on the auto patch and Topps sticking to something in the ballpark of their "carefully curated" claim, I can't see a checklist of more than 30-35 players on the auto patches and maybe 10 or so for the on card legends.

This would mean 350 auto patch #/10, 35 auto patch #1/1, 50 cuts #1/1, 50 legends #/5, and 10 cut legends #1/1. Divide this by 5 (as there are 5 boxes in a case) and you get 99.

Is there any way Topps would limit this down to 100 cases? If by some random accident these numbers are correct, there'd be 95 1/1's in a production run of 100 cases. This seems like an EXTREMELY high probability to pull a 1/1 & EXTREMELY low production to me, but I'm not sure how else Topps can pull this off without having scrubs on the checklist?

Wow never did the number crunch that seems like way to few of cases, but Houdini said it would be very limited. Under 200 cases would be sick.

[Redemption King]

I really think no matter what the complaints are this product will be successful and pretty limited.

[broncofan92]

I really think no matter what the complaints are this product will be successful and pretty limited.

That's what I'm thinking as well it's not like this is the first time plenty of people are whining about a product and won't be the last time this happens. Once the product is closer to releasing the same people complaining will be the ones buying by the box or case only to complain once again why they didn't break even etc.

[death2redemptions]

I really think no matter what the complaints are this product will be successful and pretty limited.

I'm sure since it is so limited Topps will sell out of this product almost immediately but that doesn't mean it will be any good on the secondary market. It all depends on what people are willing to pay for singles.

[charbs91]

Just checked, stuff is up to $1699 a case, $340 a card, that is insane lol

Even with a disgusting patch how many guys in this set could sell for even $250 for a /10 patch auto?

Give us more info Topps :(

[MikeWilliamsFan]

Just checked, stuff is up to $1699 a case, $340 a card, that is insane lol

Even with a disgusting patch how many guys in this set could sell for even $250 for a /10 patch auto?

Give us more info Topps :(

Yeah and plain relics. I want to see some vintage patches, silhouettes, shadowboxes, bat barrels, knobs, logomen, etc...

I know Topps can make a relic auto of trout on a computer, but more info is needed on what else you can even pull!

[caflisch78]

I just noticed there isn't even a sell sheet although photos were leaked, my guess is they are still developing the product since it doesn't release for 3.5 months. But it does say all on card autos so i'm guessing that means redemptions galore!

[trixstar]

@SportsCardNews

Topps: the checklist in Dynasty (baseball) will only be the premier players in the game. #NSCCShow

[Zoop]

@SportsCardNews

Topps: the checklist in Dynasty (baseball) will only be the premier players in the game. #NSCCShow

Then why is Oscar (I love him but c'mon) and George Springer in the product? They could be, but not yet. C'mon Topps.

[texgator]

Then why is Oscar (I love him but c'mon) and George Springer in the product? They could be, but not yet. C'mon Topps.

Thats why you use such undefined terms as "Premier". That can mean just about anything.....Springer is a Premier Rookie......Oscar is a Premier Prospect.

[Mattsurewood]

Thats why you use such undefined terms as "Premier". That can mean just about anything.....Springer is a Premier Rookie......Oscar is a Premier Prospect.

Agreed. Jose Altuve is having an awesome year on my fantasy team, leading in avg and sb's..but if he was staring at me from a box after spending $250+, I may not be happy.."premier" covers a lot of ground.

[death2redemptions]

"Premier Players" could literally mean anything...

[death2redemptions]

For something like this to work they would not only need all relics to include patch pieces but also include some of the rarer relic pieces like Bat Barrels, Bat Knobs, Logo Man, Laundry Tags, Running Gloves, Fielding Gloves, Buttons, etc. but so far they haven't released anything saying that they will.

[texgator]

For something like this to work they would not only need all relics to include patch pieces but also include some of the rarer relic pieces like Bat Barrels, Bat Knobs, Logo Man, Laundry Tags, Running Gloves, Fielding Gloves, Buttons, etc. but so far they haven't released anything saying that they will.

It would also be a nice touch to actually have information regarding where said relics actually came from.....day or days they were used.....something that you could allow you to connect with it a bit more. For the price you are paying I would think that kind of extra "service" would be warranted. But...we'll probably get the standard "Game used pieces are from no specific game..bla bla bla".

[Zoop]

For something like this to work they would not only need all relics to include patch pieces but also include some of the rarer relic pieces like Bat Barrels, Bat Knobs, Logo Man, Laundry Tags, Running Gloves, Fielding Gloves, Buttons, etc. but so far they haven't released anything saying that they will.

Yup, you nailed it. $1700 a case on Blowout now. Ridiculous.

[nera20]

This was in another post written up by another memeber:


IF the checklist is carefully curated as stated, here's where I see this possibly going...

Let's say they really break this checklist down to top-notch living HOFers and top-notch current stars/superstars with a couple rookies like Springer/Taveras/Abreu in there..I'd say the patch/auto checklist would be approximately 100 players.

So, "case hits" may be:

1. The 100 1/1 parallels of the patch autos (100)
2. The 50 cut sigs
3. Dual auto relics...lets's say a checklist of about 25 (5 of each player, guys like Koufax/Mays/Aaron/Ripken etc)---125 total
4. Cut signature relics---10
5. Topps said they got a Charlie Sheen jersey from the Major League movie and he'd be in this product. So, his 10 "regular" patch autos #d to 10 would probably equate to a case hit as well, seeing what the Archives/99 autos go for...---10

Total that up with my raw #'s, 100+50+125+10+10= 295....so, if it comes to be that there are around 300 cases of this made, I think it could be an incredible, loaded product.

Couple this with the news that Topps may be losing their NFL licensing deal, and they will want to make a huge splash showing that they are Boss when it comes to baseball.

Just a novice collectors' perspective on my part and probably a pipe dream, but I'm taking a fly on a case of this stuff.

This was in another post

[711 Cards]

I wouldn't touch this with Bea Arthur's dick.

[ernieren]

I can see the boxes now Hit number 1 Babe Ruth Cut Auto /Bat ................... Redemption card .

[centereacan06]

I can see the boxes now Hit number 1 Babe Ruth Cut Auto /Bat ................... Redemption card .

Ruth's cut auto will be place on a sticker and then put on the card.

[85GoCards]

Any recent updates on Dynasty?

[kyle1707]

What ever a case is 5 or 6?

I had 3 cases coming... 2 different dist and 1 direct....

This week I got cut 30%.. .

This has to be one of topps baseball smallest print runs ever

[85GoCards]

What ever a case is 5 or 6?

I had 3 cases coming... 2 different dist and 1 direct....

This week I got 30%.. .

This has to be one of topps baseball smallest print runs ever

I'm having a bit of trouble following what you're trying to say? :confused:

[nera20]

I'm having a bit of trouble following what you're trying to say? :confused:

i think he means he is only getting one case now instead of 3

[wegoingsizzler]

There is no way only 300 cases made... if each case cost about $800 (MSRP is 1000), that means total revenue for this product is about $250,00.... no way topps is getting into a product knowing the total revenue (not profit) is only $250,000 and from a premium product no less...


This was in another post written up by another memeber:


IF the checklist is carefully curated as stated, here's where I see this possibly going...

Let's say they really break this checklist down to top-notch living HOFers and top-notch current stars/superstars with a couple rookies like Springer/Taveras/Abreu in there..I'd say the patch/auto checklist would be approximately 100 players.

So, "case hits" may be:

1. The 100 1/1 parallels of the patch autos (100)
2. The 50 cut sigs
3. Dual auto relics...lets's say a checklist of about 25 (5 of each player, guys like Koufax/Mays/Aaron/Ripken etc)---125 total
4. Cut signature relics---10
5. Topps said they got a Charlie Sheen jersey from the Major League movie and he'd be in this product. So, his 10 "regular" patch autos #d to 10 would probably equate to a case hit as well, seeing what the Archives/99 autos go for...---10

Total that up with my raw #'s, 100+50+125+10+10= 295....so, if it comes to be that there are around 300 cases of this made, I think it could be an incredible, loaded product.

Couple this with the news that Topps may be losing their NFL licensing deal, and they will want to make a huge splash showing that they are Boss when it comes to baseball.

Just a novice collectors' perspective on my part and probably a pipe dream, but I'm taking a fly on a case of this stuff.

This was in another post

[kyle1707]

I'm having a bit of trouble following what you're trying to say? :confused:

I got CUT 30%

[nera20]

any new news on this product?

[charbs91]

$1874 a case now? Up to $375 a card on presell, anyone heard anything about this product?

[death2redemptions]

$1874 a case now? Up to $375 a card on presell, anyone heard anything about this product?

Ripping this product is going to be a disaster. I'm sure the cards will look beautiful and I'll buy singles if some of my PC Braves players have cards but $375 a card? Really!? People are gonna lose more than just their shirts on this one.

I'm still looking forward to the release of this product because I'm sure some of the cards will look fantastic...but I'm not paying $375 for a card. Just won't do it.

[Skipscards]

Only update I've heard is Topps may be delaying the product to 12/26.

[death2redemptions]

Only update I've heard is Topps may be delaying the product to 12/26.

Wouldn't they want to release it *before* Christmas?

[Skipscards]

Wouldn't they want to release it *before* Christmas?

You would think so. But when you have a monopoly every day is Christmas. Also, I would predict the case run to be less than 3,000. This could be a test for them. If successful then they can run it into the ground later under the guise of "limited production run". (See Topps Mini)

[Skipscards]

Sorry, I meant 3,000 boxes.

[nera20]

$1874 a case now? Up to $375 a card on presell, anyone heard anything about this product?

glad I locked in a case early

[death2redemptions]

glad I locked in a case early

How much did you get them for? Wasn't it originally like $250 per box or something like that?

[jerkface42one]

I'm definitely interested in this product as I love me some high end goodness, but I can't help but feel that people are going to get slaughtered unless they bought in super early when prices were lower. Right now BO is sitting at just shy of $375 per card at almost $1,900 per case. I've got the cash to burn, but there's just no way I can go in blindly on something like this before a checklist is published.

[jerkface42one]

Also, D2R's sig is the best. It may have gotten my wife pregnant.

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b631/asjrc14jerkface42one/200_zps152293ea.gif (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/asjrc14jerkface42one/media/200_zps152293ea.gif.html)

[wesnilevirus]

I had a chance to go big on this, but I passed. I went with Immaculate baseball instead.

This means that Dynasty will be amazing and Immaculate will suck.

[jerkface42one]

Maybe if I go big on Dynasty our collective karma will collide and create anti-karma which will spawn winning cases of sexy for both of us?

Someone call Neil deGrasse Tyson for a proof. I might be convinced.

[wesnilevirus]

Maybe if I go big on Dynasty our collective karma will collide and create anti-karma which will spawn winning cases of sexy for both of us?

Someone call Neil deGrasse Tyson for a proof. I might be convinced.

That would be nice. Hopefully winners all around!

[Mattsurewood]

I'd like to see some more previews/photos/checklist other than just the sell sheet..Topps has been very quiet on this one.

[brad9999]

Because people get money for Xmas :-)

Wouldn't they want to release it *before* Christmas?

[death2redemptions]

Because people get money for Xmas :-)

Well that's certainly true.

[Carrbeaz]

Box prices on this are unreal. WAY over cost lol

[Mattsurewood]

So the playoffs are in full swing, and you'd think Topps would at least send out some new teaser pics/scans...highest priced release ever, and it's still a hush job, just 6 weeks before supposed release...

[nera20]

So the playoffs are in full swing, and you'd think Topps would at least send out some new teaser pics/scans...highest priced release ever, and it's still a hush job, just 6 weeks before supposed release...

Hopefully they go huge on this product!!!!

[ageofreason13]

Can't wait to see the chipping and streaky autos on these...

[mikecala98]

After the Bowman Chrome damage debacle there is no way anyone should be considering buying this product.

[Davesportscards]

This product will be a bigger bust than Immaculate IMO.

[charbs91]

I'll just trade my case when it comes for a few highend PC Cards. Got a good deal on it

[kyle1707]

Can't wait to see the chipping and streaky autos on these...

or an encapsulated redemption card....

[Keyser Soze]

I love their computer-generated Griffey auto on the OP, when we all know what those Silver Ink autos will actually look like:

2012 Five Star Silver Ink Autograph Auto Yoenis Cespeder M 68 of 99 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-FIVE-STAR-SILVER-INK-AUTOGRAPH-AUTO-YOENIS-CESPEDER-M-68-OF-99-/301328357129?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item462891d709)

2012 Topps Five Star Silver Signatures Autograph Auto Albert Belle 19 99 Indians | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Topps-Five-Star-Silver-Signatures-Autograph-Auto-Albert-Belle-19-99-Indians-/231229790523?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item35d65e993b)

What a dumpster-fire this product will be.

[Syndygaard]

This product will be a bigger bust than Immaculate IMO.

No way, this is a much better quality product. Immaculate is unlicenced garbage. Disagree.

[hermanotarjeta]

Topps has NEVER done super high end right and NEVER will.

I can guarantee that your average break will suck, but then again, you could say that about every product out there, by definition, haha.

[death2redemptions]

This will just be awful. Topps has never put out a decent high-end product before. They put way too little value in their products and most are filled with sticker autos and no-name players.

[CincinnatiReds]

For that price, there had better be at least a HOF'er or All-Star in every single box...

[Gurds]

I've heard that the Kris Bryant Bowman Chrome Red Autos /5 and the Super Auto will be randomly inserted into this product.

[ageofreason13]

I've heard that the Kris Bryant Bowman Chrome Red Autos /5 and the Super Auto will be randomly inserted into this product.

I am hearing that 2009 Chrome Autos from Mike Trout that Bowman has held until this very day will also be making an appearance. No word on the additional 500 2001 Pujols chrome refractor autos being inserted in this. I guess they are holding it for the 2015 Insurrection set.

[GoBeavs]

Not long ago eveyone was loving this product. Now after the overhyped crash & burn of Immaculate, there has been a complete 180. However, It's silly to make a statement that Topps never does high-end right (2012 Museum & Tier One breakers will disagree). All high-end is a major gamble. Doesn't matter who made it.

What will happen will be somewhere in the middle. Sure, most boxes aren't going to yield $200+ cards. Many will probably only yield $100 cards. Pretty unrealistic to expect anything different. However, if you get lucky, you can get something quite extraordinary. I'm pretty excited to see what the breaks look like. Though I don't know if I'll take part in any myself. Will probably flip my case.

[death2redemptions]

Not long ago eveyone was loving this product. Now after the overhyped crash & burn of Immaculate, there has been a complete 180. However, It's silly to make a statement that Topps never does high-end right (2012 Museum & Tier One breakers will disagree). All high-end is a major gamble. Doesn't matter who made it.

What will happen will be somewhere in the middle. Sure, most boxes aren't going to yield $200+ cards. Many will probably only yield $100 cards. Pretty unrealistic to expect anything different. However, if you get lucky, you can get something quite extraordinary. I'm pretty excited to see what the breaks look like. Though I don't know if I'll take part in any myself. Will probably flip my case.

When were people loving this product? Sure, people have said the cards look nice, in which they better for $300+ a card, but not many people were ever saying this would be a good buy. There are a couple people on this thread who said they will be buying some but that is about all the hype that there has been. Pretty much the same before and after Immaculate was released.

[Ephland]

Now after the overhyped crash & burn of Immaculate,

Did Immaculate crash and burn?

[bluejet66]

I just don't see what they can do that hasn't been done already in some form.

[Carrbeaz]

Did Immaculate crash and burn?

People who list it at 99 cent 1 day and 3 day auctions did.

[BirdLaw]

This will just be awful. Topps has never put out a decent high-end product before. They put way too little value in their products and most are filled with sticker autos and no-name players.

It reminds me of the Upper Deck Hall of Fame set from about 10 years ago. Only difference was that the autographs were numbered to 25 or less instead of 10. It was exclusively filled with Hall of Famers, and it went for about 1/4 of the price Dynasty is going for. People still didn't like it. I can only imagine this being much worse.

[Morgoth]

People who list it at 99 cent 1 day and 3 day auctions did.

There were enough who did for me to get all my PC items, yeah buyers win! If immaculate were so great .99 auctions would have done better. Stickers, crappy no name RC's, and small ass windows for patches doomed it.

[nera20]

When were people loving this product? Sure, people have said the cards look nice, in which they better for $300+ a card, but not many people were ever saying this would be a good buy. There are a couple people on this thread who said they will be buying some but that is about all the hype that there has been. Pretty much the same before and after Immaculate was released.

This is going to be way better then immaculate I bought a case of this when I first saw the presale. Is it a huge gamble of course, but the chance of hitting a ruth, Gehrig, clemente, or other big cuts is worth the gamble. Worst case I leave it sealed and flip the case. It will be fun to open if the checklist really is exclusive to HOFer and Major Stars.

[Gurds]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/07/0dbc68b76eefcfc2b1c43eb063f0369b.jpg

[rauchand]

ugggh i'd be so pissed if my $300 hit was Longoria.

[Davesportscards]

The cards look GREAT in my honest opinion. BUT: Chipping. They look fine now, but what about after the pack out process? They look EXTREMELY vulnerable to chipping/whiting.

[Gurds]

ugggh i'd be so pissed if my $300 hit was Longoria.

just wait til you pull a sweet Didi Gregorius as you only card from a pack that cost close to $400. Talk about wanting to jump off a bridge.

[chondaville]

Did Immaculate crash and burn?

Absolutely. It is now selling under cost. BO is pretty much the only company selling it for absurd prices. $185 is nuts, wonder how many they are actually selling? I have them for $155:eek:

[Davesportscards]

just wait til you pull a sweet Didi Gregorius as you only card from a pack that cost close to $400. Talk about wanting to jump off a bridge.

Which is exactly why I will not be busting any of this.

[philhjr1]

just wait til you pull a sweet Didi Gregorius as you only card from a pack that cost close to $400. Talk about wanting to jump off a bridge.

I thought the list of players was limited to certain upper tier players current and retired. Like how Topps Sterling was.

[chondaville]

This is going to be way better then immaculate I bought a case of this when I first saw the presale. Is it a huge gamble of course, but the chance of hitting a ruth, Gehrig, clemente, or other big cuts is worth the gamble. Worst case I leave it sealed and flip the case. It will be fun to open if the checklist really is exclusive to HOFer and Major Stars.

Flip the case? Do you mean for a significant loss? This product could drop worse than Immaculate.. If a Longoria /10 is one of the hits this is doomed.

[philhjr1]

ugggh i'd be so pissed if my $300 hit was Longoria.

you might, but those crazy longo fans would be glad to take it off your hands!

[Keyser Soze]

you might, but those crazy longo fans would be glad to take it off your hands!

Yeah, for about $60.

[oldgoldy97]

The cards look GREAT in my honest opinion. BUT: Chipping. They look fine now, but what about after the pack out process? They look EXTREMELY vulnerable to chipping/whiting.

What about the backs? Will they have the BC peel?

[Davesportscards]

What about the backs? Will they have the BC peel?

Ouch. That would just be insult to injury.

[kinar]

you might, but those crazy longo fans would be glad to take it off your hands!

I don't think even Ajax (the biggest crazy longo fan there is) would want that longo @ $300

[Davesportscards]

What about the backs? Will they have the BC peel?

But I'm assuming they will have the same back material as Triple Threads, which has been known to slightly peel around the corners.

[death2redemptions]

Cards look awesome but I'd never buy any boxes of this. This will end up going much more below cost than Immaculate did.

[Davesportscards]

Cards look awesome but I'd never buy any boxes of this. This will end up going much more below cost than Immaculate did.

But at what price point would you buy this product? $140 per box? I can't say I would pay more than that for this if a Longoria /10 is my only hit.

[Gurds]

so if you've noticed there's different versions (photos) of each player and it looks like each has a 1/1. The bottom 2 look to be 1/1's and the top two are /10.

4 different pics of Longoria in that picture.

so 4 versions to /10
probably 4 versions to /5
and
4 versions 1/1s

[Davesportscards]

so if you've noticed there's different versions (photos) of each player and it looks like each has a 1/1. The bottom 2 look to be 1/1's and the top two are /10.

4 different pics of Longoria in that picture.

so 4 pics to /10
probably 4 to /5
and
4 1/1s

Good ole Topps killing value.

[Davesportscards]

Don't worry guys. There will be plenty of Trout, Miggy and Rivera Autos. I'm sure Topps will put out 10 Different versions of the same player each /10.

Quoting myself from back in May.

[death2redemptions]

But at what price point would you buy this product? $140 per box? I can't say I would pay more than that for this if a Longoria /10 is my only hit.

I don't know if I'd even pay that for a box. Maybe $100-$120 at most as there are not many cards that sell for more than that.

so if you've noticed there's different versions (photos) of each player and it looks like each has a 1/1. The bottom 2 look to be 1/1's and the top two are /10.

4 different pics of Longoria in that picture.

so 4 versions to /10
probably 4 versions to /5
and
4 versions 1/1s

Exactly, no card numbered to /10 or higher but that doesn't mean there won't be 4-6 versions of a player with just a different photo including at least 2 different parallels for each version.

[chondaville]

considering the factory cost for this is right at $200, they have got to find a way to add value. 50 versions of Longoria???

Oh my God.

[Carrbeaz]

To my best knowledge factory cost is $218 per box.

The one card per pack/box just makes it such a HUGE risk.

It's funny they chose to show Longoria as the examples.. He should be the bottom tier of player that should be in this product. If there are lower tiered players than him then my god this could be rough for people breaking.

[oldgoldy97]

A product this high end should have all the bells and whistles: barrels, knobs, logos, etc. Has anyone seem anything beyond patch slices and Tribute-style dual mem with cut autos?

[Davesportscards]

I see 75% famine with this product, with 15% break even & 10% feast.

[charbs91]

Everyone chirping about Longoria, he is probably one of the lowest guys in the set. not every box will be a winner, same as every product ever. people will rip this stuff for a chance at the cut autos, I bet it won't drop in price.

[Davesportscards]

A product this high end should have all the bells and whistles: barrels, knobs, logos, etc. Has anyone seem anything beyond patch slices and Tribute-style dual mem with cut autos?

And it should also be able to make me a sandwich and sing to me while doing so.

[charbs91]

I see 75% famine with this product, with 15% break even & 10% feast.

I would agree with ya. Don't those numbers fall pretty much in line with most products these days?

[Brobocop]

After getting burned and seeing people get burned by Topps Five Star baseball over the past few years, I would not go near this product given the price point it is at right now. A lot of people have said it already but why not once more, Topps has no idea how to do a high-end baseball product right. I always thought they knew mid-level products well but after seeing blood bath after blood bath for people opening Triple Threads this year, I would be even more nervous to open this or Five Star.

God speed to those that are taking the plunge though!

[death2redemptions]

I see 75% famine with this product, with 15% break even & 10% feast.

I'm guessing more like 80% famine
15% break even
5% feast

[death2redemptions]

I'm guessing more like 80% famine
15% break even
5% feast

That came out wrong...
85% famine
10% break even
5% feast

[calculusdork]

I see 75% famine with this product, with 15% break even & 10% feast.

I'm guessing more like 80% famine
15% break even
5% feast

Puts it right in line with Five Star. So this is basically Five Star with 1 card instead of 4-5, about the same floor return -- because let's face it, what's the difference between getting one $50 card and getting five $20 cards when you just paid $300+ for a box? -- and a higher ceiling in that 5-10% feast.

If you love/hate Five Star, I would assume you'll love/hate Dynasty.

[death2redemptions]

Puts it right in line with Five Star. So this is basically Five Star with 1 card instead of 4-5, about the same floor return -- because let's face it, what's the difference between getting one $50 card and getting five $20 cards when you just paid $300+ for a box? -- and a higher ceiling in that 5-10% feast.

If you love/hate Five Star, I would assume you'll love/hate Dynasty.

I also think Five Star is a product that is almost always a sure loser which is why I would never bust a box of that either.

Just another product with nice looking cards but terrible for ripping.

[Davesportscards]

I would agree with ya. Don't those numbers fall pretty much in line with most products these days?

Pretty much, but do you expect to break even on a $55 box of chrome due to its price point or do you expect to only make about $15-$20 back?

[charbs91]

Pretty much, but do you expect to break even on a $55 box of chrome due to its price point or do you expect to only make about $15-$20 back?

At $55 bucks I'd dream of the Urias Red and buy a box and end up with two base autos of 25 year old AA players and get $10 back.

In dynasty I dream of a Ruth or Clemente Cut Auto and end up with a Longoria Patch Auto /10 and get $60-100 back.

Same stuff just different prices points, some people play $5 hands at the casino some people play $1000 hands.

[bluejet66]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/07/0dbc68b76eefcfc2b1c43eb063f0369b.jpg

Yea any one of those would definitely make me jump off a cliff.

[death2redemptions]

At $55 bucks I'd dream of the Urias Red and buy a box and end up with two base autos of 25 year old AA players and get $10 back.

In dynasty I dream of a Ruth or Clemente Cut Auto and end up with a Longoria Patch Auto /10 and get $60-100 back.

Same stuff just different prices points, some people play $5 hands at the casino some people play $1000 hands.

If you are going to compare the best cards in the product then you say that you dream of pulling the Urias superfractor auto (best hit in product) from Chrome or a Ruth cut auto from Dynasty...the two have near identical value actually...but it only costs $55 for Bowman Chrome and almost $400 for this.

[charbs91]

If you are going to compare the best cards in the product then you say that you dream of pulling the Urias superfractor auto (best hit in product) from Chrome or a Ruth cut auto from Dynasty...the two have near identical value actually...but it only costs $55 for Bowman Chrome and almost $400 for this.

Super has already been pulled so that's why I said Red, ya but there is also waaaaaaaaaay more boxes of 2014 bowman chrome then there will be of this

[SaveMeTheGum]

If you are going to compare the best cards in the product then you say that you dream of pulling the Urias superfractor auto (best hit in product) from Chrome or a Ruth cut auto from Dynasty...the two have near identical value actually...but it only costs $55 for Bowman Chrome and almost $400 for this.

You can't just go by best v. best -- you have to look at odds. You are assured of getting something very cool in this set (maybe not your money back, but something solid). $55 for a Bowman Chrome box will likely net you a $3 autograph. If you were to buy 8 boxes of Bowman Chrome, you're still not likely to get anything near as cool/valuable as what you get in these boxes (I'm assuming).

[HOFcollector]

any kris bryant 2013 chrome autos in this product? :p


(disclaimer: i wasn't about to search 10 pages to make sure this joke wasn't made already...if it was, my deepest apologies)

[Davesportscards]

You can't just go by best v. best -- you have to look at odds. You are assured of getting something very cool in this set (maybe not your money back, but something solid). $55 for a Bowman Chrome box will likely net you a $3 autograph. If you were to buy 8 boxes of Bowman Chrome, you're still not likely to get anything near as cool/valuable as what you get in these boxes (I'm assuming).

Who in their right mind would want to spend $375 just to get something "very cool"? A $60 card from a $375 box is solid?

[charbs91]

Who in their right mind would want to spend $375 just to get something "very cool"? A $60 card from a $375 box is solid?

I'd be willing to guess $60 would be the relative floor, a ton of cards in this set will sell for more than $60.

[GoBeavs]

Who in their right mind would want to spend $375 just to get something "very cool"? A $60 card from a $375 box is solid?

Who'd want to spend $55 on a Bowman box that'll likely contain $10 worth? Seems to be a lot of people on here doing that. As Charbs said, the only thing different is the price point.

The fact that you're using $375 as your box price already shows potential success considering that's 50% more than where it started.

[Ajax1723]

you might, but those crazy longo fans would be glad to take it off your hands!

Not as many crazy Longo fans as you think.....

Yeah, for about $60.

For the /10 version, this may end up being true. Thanks to his down year avg wise this year, his stuff has gone way down. I've bought the most I've ever bought in the past couple months, because his prices are at an all time low. I'm getting numbered autos for less than $20 bucks, it's like Christmas came early.

I don't think even Ajax (the biggest crazy longo fan there is) would want that longo @ $300

Correct. In fact, the 1/1s will barely cover half the box price at $300 unless it's a super disgusting patch. His 1/1 autos sit for less than 200 most times. The Dynasty ones will probably get 250, as it is super high end, but it would have to be an insane patch.

[death2redemptions]

Who'd want to spend $55 on a Bowman box that'll likely contain $10 worth? Seems to be a lot of people on here doing that. As Charbs said, the only thing different is the price point.

The fact that you're using $375 as your box price already shows potential success considering that's 50% more than where it started.

The difference being you are only out $45 with the first option but you're out $310 with the Dynasty.

Also you have to take into consideration Bowman Chrome is easily the worst product of the year and has been for the last couple years.

[Morgoth]

Anybody read the tweet beneath the Longo card photos? LOL

I also hate them adding tags to this product and not cutting the windows specifically to see the whole tag like they do in Museum.

[death2redemptions]

Anybody read the tweet beneath the Longo card photos? LOL

I also hate them adding tags to this product and not cutting the windows specifically to see the whole tag like they do in Museum.

haha, "too bad he is a d!ck of a human being"

I have never really heard anything bad about Longoria's personality before.

[Ajax1723]

haha, "too bad he is a d!ck of a human being"

I have never really heard anything bad about Longoria's personality before.

Very true. He helps out all the time with various things, and was nominated for the Roberto Clemente award.

[MikeWilliamsFan]

Beautiful cards, just WAY to high of a price point

[death2redemptions]

Very true. He helps out all the time with various things, and was nominated for the Roberto Clemente award.

He must not have signed somebodies cards i.e. Biddle v 2.0

[Ajax1723]

He must not have signed somebodies cards i.e. Biddle v 2.0

Or he didn't answer then when the person called out "Hey Eva, can you sign this"?

[Chicharito]

all cards with those sepia like photos just too terrible

[Brobocop]

Does anyone have a problem with Topps adding in the comment "Now THAT ladies and gentlemen is a baseball card." To me it could be interpreted as a slap in the fact to customers who can't afford a ridiculous $350 price tag for one card. Like, "Thanks for buying Topps Series 1 but those aren't baseball cards, these overdone expensive cards are real baseball cards." I guess as a customer of either Topps or Panini one should be used to being slapped in the face by either company.

[enyouartist]

They are not even that special IMO. It's gotten to a point where signed patches are becoming the norm. Unless it's a logo or something, it's just more of the same from Topps.

[Keyser Soze]

For the /10 version, this may end up being true. Thanks to his down year avg wise this year, his stuff has gone way down. I've bought the most I've ever bought in the past couple months, because his prices are at an all time low. I'm getting numbered autos for less than $20 bucks, it's like Christmas came early.



I'm with you. Rendon stuff dropped quite a bit after he debuted and I was able to get a ton of his rare stuff at great prices. It's inching back up now that he appears to be one of baseballs best young players.

[IndySportsCards]

ugggh i'd be so pissed if my $300 hit was Longoria.

Yeah, try as I might, I can't make myself buy this. I'm sure great hits will be pulled, and we'll see all the great hits, but there will more hits like this that you could easily buy singles of cheaper later if you so desire. I like the chase of a product, but when it's one hit and it's super expensive, I'll pass. I'd rather open a couple boxes of Jumbo Chrome and take my chances hitting something nice than spend $300 on 1 hit.

IF I were to buy any of this product, it would have to be a case minimum because 1 box probably has a stellar hit in it which might make it seem like it was worth the money.

[nera20]

i have a preorder in but I am thinking of changing the preorder to the masterworks star wars product coming out trying to decide what to do

[Mattsurewood]

i have a preorder in but I am thinking of changing the preorder to the masterworks star wars product coming out trying to decide what to do

You may want to ditch Dynasty...looks like the checklist could not be as elite as I had expected...if the 80/20 famine/feast-breakeven ratio plays out, a 5-box case could look like:

Longoria/10
Adam Jones/10
Bruce Sutter/10
George Springer/10
Cal Ripken/10

Ripken would be the "case hit", and depending on patch would get your box back maybe, but a scary proposition overall...

[kyle1707]

For this to even come close to working

Cuts and i mean decent cuts have to be every 10 boxes or so..

And checklist has to be

ripken
Koufax
aaron
trout
harper
Kershaw
Cabrera
rivera
Mays
McGwire
Griffey
pedro
unit
Schmidt
banks
bo
Rickey
and every patch card has to be 3 color or logo...

Even with this 325-350 is awful... Cost is 225 though

But if checklist is 3 times this size... it will be a nightmare... which im guessing is true

I'm just thinking topps sterling .... It is very nice... But I opened a box the last year they did it

Rod carew jersey and cj Wilson auto maybe... 200 dollar box yielded 14 dollars in cards

[nera20]

You may want to ditch Dynasty...looks like the checklist could not be as elite as I had expected...if the 80/20 famine/feast-breakeven ratio plays out, a 5-box case could look like:

Longoria/10
Adam Jones/10
Bruce Sutter/10
George Springer/10
Cal Ripken/10

Ripken would be the "case hit", and depending on patch would get your box back maybe, but a scary proposition overall...


Yeah I know I can get out of the case because I am not asking for my money back just looking to buy another product, my main intention on this was hoping to hit a gehrig or ruth cut but now looking at this I may just go the other route

[Brobocop]

Yeah I know I can get out of the case because I am not asking for my money back just looking to buy another product, my main intention on this was hoping to hit a gehrig or ruth cut but now looking at this I may just go the other route

To be honest, Star Wars is probably the better bet at this point. The sketch cards look great and I don't think Topps want to have the first high-end Star Wars product to tank. They want this to work so they can launch future high-end products. On the other hand, after seeing how successful Flawless has been for Panini, Topps probably thinks they can put out pretty much anything and they'll sell out. I'd trust Star Wars more than Dynasty.

[death2redemptions]

You may want to ditch Dynasty...looks like the checklist could not be as elite as I had expected...if the 80/20 famine/feast-breakeven ratio plays out, a 5-box case could look like:

Longoria/10
Adam Jones/10
Bruce Sutter/10
George Springer/10
Cal Ripken/10

Ripken would be the "case hit", and depending on patch would get your box back maybe, but a scary proposition overall...

A Cal Ripken patch auto #d /10 still wouldn't make your $350 back unless it was a super sick patch.