Johnny Football and The Bird

[wingah]

Anyone else just see him flip someone off on national television?

It's at 2:28 in the 3rd quarter if you'd like to see for yourself.

[relentless1]

Yep, he sure did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9qj2nm8Bfc

[Powell7db]

What a punk

[zonacats8]

will he ever learn?

or the better question is will all the Manziel defenders from the last few years finally admit that he's been a little #@#@#@#@#@#@ since winning the Heisman and that he needs to grow the F up?

[davdukes4]

You guys realize the entire redskins team are being a bunch of dirtbags to him right? No one made a thread when the entire redskins bench got an unsportsmanlike penalty.

[wheeler281]

You guys realize the entire redskins team are being a bunch of dirtbags to him right? No one made a thread when the entire redskins bench got an unsportsmanlike penalty.

Yup happens all the time on the field. Nobody is flashing the bird

BTW the unsportsmanlike had nothing to do with Manziel or heckling him so lets put that in its right context. It was for cursing a ref

[zonacats8]

You guys realize the entire redskins team are being a bunch of dirtbags to him right? No one made a thread when the entire redskins bench got an unsportsmanlike penalty.

there is a difference between talking smack and flipping off players/fans/whoever

You can say whatever you want on the field, if Manziel wants to say "F You" to a player, so be it, but you can't flip someone off to where the world can then see it

[wingah]

You guys realize the entire redskins team are being a bunch of dirtbags to him right? No one made a thread when the entire redskins bench got an unsportsmanlike penalty.

So that gives him the right to act like a child and make obscene gestures on national television in front of millions of people?

Logic.

[IronMonkey415]

This is that disrespectful attitude we were all worried about. The skateboarder dont-give-a-EFF-about nothing culture, Call of Duty playing, CHeeze-Its eating, Mountain Dew drinking generation that is killing this society. Know he is bringing it into America's Past time and killing this beautiful game.

[relentless1]

This is that disrespectful attitude we were all worried about. The skateboarder dont-give-a-EFF-about nothing culture, Call of Duty playing, CHeeze-Its eating, Mountain Dew drinking generation that is killing this society. Know he is bringing it into America's Past time and killing this beautiful game.


But...but...Call of Duty is fun!

[The Card Album]

Just wait until he plays in Philly and the fans pelt him with batteries. I'll tune in for that game.

[Deeks]

I really disliked Johnny Football for a long time. But between this, the coke in the bathroom, and his overall butthole-ishness, I love him. He's a real life Kenny Powers. Keep it up Johnny!

[relentless1]

But we knew Manziel would do something stupid and implode. It was just a matter of when. He's got some serious growing up to do if he wants to be remotely successful.

[imbaked247]

RG3 asked for a line and Johnny flipped him off, what a d!ck head.

[davdukes4]

Just wait until he plays in Philly and the fans pelt him with batteries. I'll tune in for that game.

Flipping someone the bird over your shoulder = unforgivable and ruining the game of football. While pelting someone with batteries while they are doing their job is something you want to see? This perfectly portrays the average hater.

[BoxBreaker72]

Just more to throw on the pile.

He just doesn't get it. Ryan Leaf type of maturity.

[sonnyday]

This is that disrespectful attitude we were all worried about.

Flipping the bird is disrespectful in the NFL? This league is becoming the apitomy of goody too shoes. I want blood, mud, fighting, hits, swearing, td dances, and yes flipping the bird. This political correctness , don't get caught by the news hungry media, cover your arse football is bs, it's ruined our game.

[GoHawks25]

Where is ram29jackson? I'm sure he knows exactly what is going on!!!

[panther252]

Flipping the bird is disrespectful in the NFL? This league is becoming the apitomy of goody too shoes. I want blood, mud, fighting, hits, swearing, td dances, and yes flipping the bird. This political correctness , don't get caught by the news hungry media, cover your arse football is bs, it's ruined our game.

I like this, from anyone but the QB though. They are supposed to be the role model for the younger generation, leader and represent the team.

[wheeler281]

Flipping someone the bird over your shoulder = unforgivable and ruining the game of football. While pelting someone with batteries while they are doing their job is something you want to see? This perfectly portrays the average hater.

Johnny is that you?

[tjenkins]

My son and I were watching the game and my son said did you see that, I did not catch it. We were DVR-ing the game so he went back and sure enough! He froze the picture snapped a photo with his cell and twittered it stating...."Manziel bein classy!"

[addicted36]

If the Rams had taken the Browns same trade offer for Griffin then that could have been the Redskins problem. Thank you Jeff Fisher

[sonnyday]

I like this, from anyone but the QB though. They are supposed to be the role model for the younger generation, leader and represent the team.

Role model schmole model......always hated that copout argument....it's football not Sunday school.....I'll be my kids role model. let's make sure our younger generation grows up with some hair on their balls.

[davdukes4]

Johnny is that you?

I wish. I'd be typing this on my way to vegas with some fine honeys.

But I'll admit it, I like a quarterback with a little fire in his belly. I'm not offended by him flipping another grown man the bird. I understand what is going on after the plays and at the bottom of the pile. It's not all sunshine and rainbows. It's football.

If he was beating his wife, failing multiple drug tests, cheating via performance enhancing drugs or something along those lines I would agree with you guys.

[Sensei322]

My question is, will the league do anything about it? I didn't get to turn it on until the 4th quarter and I didn't hear any mention of this by the broadcasters (which makes sense.) But on Twitter it is HUGE and I imagine everyone at the NFL is aware by now. Wonder if they will fine him or penalize him at all. What do y'all think?

[davdukes4]

My son and I were watching the game and my son said did you see that, I did not catch it. We were DVR-ing the game so he went back and sure enough! He froze the picture snapped a photo with his cell and twittered it stating...."Manziel bein classy!"

Nice to hear that your child is tweeting derogatory gestures.

[The Card Album]

Flipping someone the bird over your shoulder = unforgivable and ruining the game of football. While pelting someone with batteries while they are doing their job is something you want to see? This perfectly portrays the average hater.

I never Manziel's bird was unforgivable and ruining the game of football.

Perhaps I just want to see how Manziel handles what is one of the most ruthless places to play professional sports when he's letting an opposing bench get in his head.

I'm also not a "hater" in the sense that you're using it.


When I need you to make up words and opinions for me, I'll just PM you my password. I don't think I did that this time, though.

[wingah]

Role model schmole model......always hated that copout argument....it's football not Sunday school.....I'll be my kids role model. let's make sure our younger generation grows up with some hair on their balls.

And this stance has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you are from Cleveland and Johnny Football happens to be your QB?

Hmmmmmmmm.......

[sonnyday]

I never Manziel's bird was unforgivable and ruining the game of football.

Perhaps I just want to see how Manziel handles what is one of the most ruthless places to play professional sports when he's letting an opposing bench get in his head.

I'm also not a "hater" in the sense that you're using it.


When I need you to make up words and opinions for me, I'll just PM you my password. I don't think I did that this time, though.

Sorry just venting...I type fast without thinking.

[panther252]

Role model schmole model......always hated that copout argument....it's football not Sunday school.....I'll be my kids role model. let's make sure our younger generation grows up with some hair on their balls.

I understand what you're saying, but you have to realize the QB has to conduct things differently than everyone else. They are the face of the team and whether you like it or not, the NFL is a business. How would you like it if your model employee was making your company look bad?

[Rhyster66]

I feel as if Manziels going to be one of the guys where when you pull his auto in 5-6 years as part of a Football mixer from past years, it'll be one of those "if you'd pulled this back in the day you would have gotten a load of $$$$$" moments like with Colt McCoy and many others.

[The Card Album]

My question is, will the league do anything about it? I didn't get to turn it on until the 4th quarter and I didn't hear any mention of this by the broadcasters (which makes sense.) But on Twitter it is HUGE and I imagine everyone at the NFL is aware by now. Wonder if they will fine him or penalize him at all. What do y'all think?

Other players have been fined for being caught giving the finger on camera. The NFL even fined the late Bud Adams (owner of the Titans) when he did it from his owner's box.

[wheeler281]

Nice to hear that your child is tweeting derogatory gestures.

That's the whole point and why its not acceptable. 1st you try and make up the excuse the Skins bench got an unsportsmanlike for heckling Johnny boy then once pointed out it was false you go trolling.

Imagine if he had to go through what Ben Or either Ray had to. This is nothing and he is already breaking

[Seanathan297]

Meh, if it was anyone else it would get 2 seconds of everyone's time and a fine from the NFL, then get buried. Instead we get to look forward to hearing about it for the next 3 weeks. It's a little concerning that people have more of a problem with this "ruining the game" then say Ray Rice only catching 2 games when he knocked out his fiance on tape. Never mind that we can't get 3 consecutive plays without a flag this preseason, or the fact that the game is turning into flag football. We rolled right out of Tebow and straight into Johnny Football...

[wingah]

That's the whole point and why its not acceptable. 1st you try and make up the excuse the Skins bench got an unsportsmanlike for heckling Johnny boy then once pointed out it was false you go trolling.

He supports Ray Lewis. ..are you surprised? Lol

[davdukes4]

That's the whole point and why its not acceptable. 1st you try and make up the excuse the Skins bench got an unsportsmanlike then once pointed out it was false you go trolling.

I saw on twitter that it was because they were taunting him with the money symbols. Link to where you saw it was a player swearing at an official.

I'm not trolling. I'm pointing out that a parent is okay with his child tweeting nasty things...but he wants 21 year old Johnny to be an adult. People love to throw rocks and point fingers when they need to look in the mirror.

[sonnyday]

I understand what you're saying, but you have to realize the QB has to conduct things differently than everyone else. They are the face of the team and whether you like it or not, the NFL is a business. How would you like it if your model employee was making your company look bad?

If my company entailed 300lb men trying to tear my head off and screaming nasty things about my mother...then yes a little bird action is would be acceptable.

Plus johnny likely just sold 2,000 t shirts of him giving the bird

[panther252]

Meh, if it was anyone else it would get 2 seconds of everyone's time and a fine from the NFL, then get buried. Instead we get to look forward to hearing about it for the next 3 weeks. It's a little concerning that people have more of a problem with this "ruining the game" then say Ray Rice only catching 2 games when he knocked out his fiance on tape. Never mind that we can't get 3 consecutive plays without a flag this preseason, or the fact that the game is turning into flag football. We rolled right out of Tebow and straight into Johnny Football...

Don't bring Ray Rice into this. You're going to overwhelm Dukes here lol.

[davdukes4]

That's the whole point and why its not acceptable. 1st you try and make up the excuse the Skins bench got an unsportsmanlike for heckling Johnny boy then once pointed out it was false you go trolling.

Imagine if he had to go through what Ben Or either Ray had to. This is nothing and he is already breaking

You want to compare Johnny to an accused rapist and a wife beater? I now understand your mindset.

[ManInTheMirror]

Where is ram29jackson? I'm sure he knows exactly what is going on!!!

^^^^THIS^^^^

[wheeler281]

I saw on twitter that it was because they were taunting him with the money symbols. Link to where you saw it was a player swearing at an official.

I'm not trolling. I'm pointing out that a parent is okay with his child tweeting nasty things...but he wants 21 year old Johnny to be an adult. People love to throw rocks and point fingers when they need to look in the mirror.

There is no link LMAO. They write about every flag somewhere I do not know about. I am watching the game. It was on Gruden for barking and swearing for a PI at Terry Mccullogh during the call on the PA system. Then Tirico said "hey that's your brother" and Jon Laughed and commented.

[Trackman5476]

I wouldn't call Manziel a leader, I wouldn't follow him to the corner store.

[wheeler281]

You want to compare Johnny to an accused rapist and a wife beater? I now understand your mindset.

If you took that out of what I said you are a complete imbecile. If he is already flipping birds for this then imagine if he had to go through what Ben. Lewis or Rice had to. Not comparing them at all. Come on man catch up

[davdukes4]

Don't bring Ray Rice into this. You're going to overwhelm Dukes here lol.

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[davdukes4]

If you took that out of what I said you are a complete imbecile. If he is already flipping birds for this then imagine if he had to go through what Ben. Lewis or Rice had to. Not comparing them at all. Come on man catch up

Imagine if Johnny beat his wife and then had to face the consequences? I'll admit it, you got me. I'm on tilt. Solid troll job.

[wheeler281]

Imagine if Johnny beat his wife and then had to face the consequences? I'll admit it, you got me. I'm on tilt. Solid troll job.

Again right over your head. Yup you are blowout worthy

[wingah]

I wouldn't call Manziel a leader, I wouldn't follow him to the corner store.

Unless you were searching for a new drug dealer. Than following him would makes sense....like following a rat to cheese.

[dbrown]

Say hello to America's new "role model" :rolleyes:

[NYGiants72]

I wish I could short sell football cards...

[The Card Album]

This "what if Johnny beat his wife" talk is absurd. Since Johnny left the NCAA, he's not going to beat anybody ever again.

[tjenkins]

Nice to hear that your child is tweeting derogatory gestures.

My son is visiting. He's 29 years old. Good one, who do you think you are???

[davdukes4]

My son is visiting. He's 29 years old. Good one, who do you think you are???

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[tjenkins]

That's the whole point and why its not acceptable. 1st you try and make up the excuse the Skins bench got an unsportsmanlike for heckling Johnny boy then once pointed out it was false you go trolling.

Imagine if he had to go through what Ben Or either Ray had to. This is nothing and he is already breaking

Thank you for clarifying so Ron Burgandy understand what faceciousness is? I am done here.

[The Card Album]

Thank you for clarifying so Ron Burgandy understand what faceciousness is?

Am I the only one finding humor in the misspelling of "facetiousness" (and Ron Burgundy)? :coffee:

I hate to be "that guy", but it made me chuckle.

[katho54]

This guys gonna be the next Tebow..Except that Tebow had a bit of class

[gonzagacubs]

Legend.

10 Characters

[jrfryejr]

Let's hear what he says at the press conference.....doesn't even apologize. Just says needs to be smarter.

[addicted36]

You guys realize the entire redskins team are being a bunch of dirtbags to him right? No one made a thread when the entire redskins bench got an unsportsmanlike penalty.

they got the penalty because of the amount of calls by the refs. Watch the reply, the refs threw another flag and it was like the 10th of the game and they got pissed off. it made me laugh and the announcers laughed too. It was redic how many flags were thrown that game.

Its one thing to yell at the officials then it is another to flip someone off on national TV. He looks like the next Ryan Leaf

[ucLAkers]

they got the penalty because of the amount of calls by the refs. Watch the reply, the refs threw another flag and it was like the 10th of the game and they got pissed off. it made me laugh and the announcers laughed too. It was redic how many flags were thrown that game.

Its one thing to yell at the officials then it is another to flip someone off on national TV. He looks like the next Ryan Leaf

Yea but Leaf flipped off his own fans....
Trust me....I have flipped off the Redskins plenty of times...it just comes natural to everybody that hates the skins.

[Shogun2049]

Gruden and company were even saying during the Lions/Raiders game that the thing that is ridiculous, is that the refs predetermined how many flags they would throw for each game. They already know how often they need to flag a play, so they're adhering to their quota. This is crap football and they need to cut it out. If the coaches are only allowed a certain number of challenges, the refs should be allowed only a certain amount of flags per game. Give them only 10 or 15 flags per game max and we'll see the crap stuff stop being called and the serious offenses will be left.

[davdukes4]

they got the penalty because of the amount of calls by the refs. Watch the reply, the refs threw another flag and it was like the 10th of the game and they got pissed off. it made me laugh and the announcers laughed too. It was redic how many flags were thrown that game.

Its one thing to yell at the officials then it is another to flip someone off on national TV. He looks like the next Ryan Leaf

This was nothing new. The league announced that they were going to over penalize in the pre-season. The coach should stop acting like a child and control his emotions and language. :D

[dbrown]

New Browns logo

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvXnTgICQAIf1wx.png#twimg

[The Card Album]

You should remove that before davdukes has a coronary when he sees you posting an obscene gesture.


...and that awkward moment when Jay Cutler dresses like a girl who just broke up with her boyfriend and spent the afternoon crying over a pint of Ben & Jerry's.

[davdukes4]

You should remove that before davdukes has a coronary when he sees you posting an obscene gesture.


...and that awkward moment when Jay Cutler dresses like a girl who just broke up with her boyfriend and spent the afternoon crying over a pint of Ben & Jerry's.

lol. I just want people to be reasonable. It's ground breaking news when Johnny farts...

[The Card Album]

lol. I just want people to be reasonable. It's ground breaking news when Johnny farts...

You're right, since he's been stinking 24/7 since entering his first rookie camp with the Browns.

[Pot Roast]

This guys gonna be the next Tebow..Except that Tebow had a bit of class

but tebow wasn't pulling all dat ***.

[JKS4]

The envy is strong in this thread

[JasonM32]

I'm a little tired of all the sanctimony from sports reporters in regards to this kid. ESPN is the ones that makes front page news out of this kind of behavior. ESPN loves controversy whether it's real or imagined. Sensationalism at it's finest. I really give a crap about ESPN analysts and their sense of moral superiority.

He flip off the other team that was no doubt trash talking him. It's immature behavior but it's not as big of a deal as people are making out of it. People love it. How boring would the league be if every player was classy 24/7?

[davdukes4]

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[Ajax1723]

I'm also getting tired of all the Johnny Football stuff. I get that he is THE guy to talk about right now, but it's getting a little old now.....sure he shouldn't be doing some of the stuff he is doing, but it's obviously getting covered 100 times more than it normally would if someone else did it.

Really started getting to be too much when him missing a 5 minute meeting, along with other rookies, became a top story on the website......it's just annoying now. Tebow, LeBron coverage actually never bothered me, but the Manziel stuff is really starting to get out of hand.

[duwal]

Just shows that even in pre-season the other players are getting in his head

[ManInTheMirror]

Just shows that even in pre-season the other players are getting in his head
This is how I see it.

This quote I just read on NFL.COM says a lot:

"I was informed of it after the game and it's disappointing," Pettine said during the postgame news conference. "That's what we talk about, is being poised and being focused. You have to be able to maintain your poise. All football players, especially the quarterback, we have to keep our composure, so it's something that we'll obviously address."

[JasonM32]

ESPN doesn't report controversy, they create controversy by taking small things and beating them to death.....and they love it.

[ssbledsoe]

I wish. I'd be typing this on my way to vegas with some fine honeys.

But I'll admit it, I like a quarterback with a little fire in his belly. I'm not offended by him flipping another grown man the bird. I understand what is going on after the plays and at the bottom of the pile. It's not all sunshine and rainbows. It's football.

If he was beating his wife, failing multiple drug tests, cheating via performance enhancing drugs or something along those lines I would agree with you guys.

My reaction reading your last paragraph and looking at your avatar:
http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/762/87/1087762.gif

[daverat]

Manziel is white trash, I wAs rooting for him until today

[AP4MVP]

Glad he isn't a Viking. #teddyfootball

[chipmaster]

My son and I were watching the game and my son said did you see that, I did not catch it. We were DVR-ing the game so he went back and sure enough! He froze the picture snapped a photo with his cell and twittered it stating...."Manziel bein classy!"

Nice to hear that your child is tweeting derogatory gestures.

My son is visiting. He's 29 years old. Good one, who do you think you are???


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[Highroller]

How does this deserve a thread? I would love to know how many pro football players have dropped a middle finger while on the field without complaints from the people here.

[asujbl]

How does this deserve a thread? I would love to know how many pro football players have dropped a middle finger while on the field without complaints from the people here.

Did Marshawn Lynch Flip Off His Sideline After Not Getting the Ball? | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1816239-did-marshawn-lynch-flip-off-his-sideline-after-not-getting-the-ball)

[Kelper7]

Flipping the bird is disrespectful in the NFL? This league is becoming the apitomy of goody too shoes. I want blood, mud, fighting, hits, swearing, td dances, and yes flipping the bird. This political correctness , don't get caught by the news hungry media, cover your arse football is bs, it's ruined our game.

I believe "epitome" is what you were looking for here. Not one to typically correct folks on this board and not trying to do so in a harsh manner. Just helping out for next time!

[ajlaxmn]

What Johnny flipped the Bird? OH EM GEE. I can't believe it. Some of you guys already had it in your mind that you don't like him and were just waiting for that moment where you could give Johnny the business on this forum. Redskins seemed like they were acting like punks, eff em, flip them the bird. I don't have a dog in this fight, not an A&M fan, Browns fan, or Manziel fan just sick of seeing every move he this kid makes scrutinized. Oh well, such is the game of football.

[groundsupport]

Remember when this happened? lol!!

0SGsdNFeA0w

[twisty571]

Manziel is white trash, I wAs rooting for him until today

So when did race have anything to do with it?

[Joshedollaz]

Just changed my fantasy team's name to the "Middle Finger Mazielmaniacs" Last year I was known as the "Incognito S*&T mouths"

[jsnake89]

I have been saying since he was drafted " He is a total Douche".

[trixstar]

How does this deserve a thread? I would love to know how many pro football players have dropped a middle finger while on the field without complaints from the people here.


It doesn't and the comments in it are laughable.

[chansen10]

This really isn't a big deal in my opinion. A handful of other players have done this in the past. It's sad that people get more worked up over Manziel Flipping the finger to the skins bench, then they do when players in NFL get DUI's. For the next week ESPN will be talking about this, whereas if someone had gotten a DUI they would have spent one three minute segment on it.

[GB5HOF]

I'm a Lions fan, so I have no room to talk about crappy draft picks, playoffs, winning seasons, etc. I watched 0-16...and other seasons just as bad. That being said..does anyone really think this clown is going to be an impact player in the NFL?

He's immature. He's small. The Browns don't have a very good track record in drafting QB's... and opponents seem extremely excited to beat the living %&$# out of him.

Most of this was known before the draft. It seems even worse now.

Cleveland...do you think you've got the franchise QB? Or is he another in a long list of failures? Or is it too early to tell. What's your gut?

[ManInTheMirror]

Johnny does seem to have a thing for birds...

[freethrowtommy]

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Yes! I remember that!

The only difference is that he was doing it to his own sidelines if I recall correctly... might have been at Clay Matthews.

That said, I don't care that JFF flipped the bird to someone. This is football and they are all big boys.

Heat of the moment, things happen. It isn't like he tried to purposefully injury someone or anything like that.

[asujbl]

I'm a Lions fan, so I have no room to talk about crappy draft picks, playoffs, winning seasons, etc. I watched 0-16...and other seasons just as bad. That being said..does anyone really think this clown is going to be an impact player in the NFL?

He's immature. He's small. The Browns don't have a very good track record in drafting QB's... and opponents seem extremely excited to beat the living %&$# out of him.

Most of this was known before the draft. It seems even worse now.

Cleveland...do you think you've got the franchise QB? Or is he another in a long list of failures? Or is it too early to tell. What's your gut?

It's way too early to tell. It's been 2 preseason games.

Brandon Weeden and Colt McCoy were two of the best preseason QB's when they were out there.

It's going to be a long process - longer than some might hope - but it's way too early do make a judgement on his potential success.

[dbrown]

Yes! I remember that!

The only difference is that he was doing it to his own sidelines if I recall correctly... might have been at Clay Matthews.

That said, I don't care that JFF flipped the bird to someone. This is football and they are all big boys.

Heat of the moment, things happen. It isn't like he tried to purposefully injury someone or anything like that.

Now that you say that, I remember Marshawn Lynch flipping off one of his coaches on the side line for calling a passing play near the end zone lol

[raydawg24]

Yes! I remember that!

The only difference is that he was doing it to his own sidelines if I recall correctly... might have been at Clay Matthews.

That said, I don't care that JFF flipped the bird to someone. This is football and they are all big boys.

Heat of the moment, things happen. It isn't like he tried to purposefully injury someone or anything like that.

^ I agree with everything you just said.

I also remember the Hawk incident. It was all joking but i think AJ got fined a good 10k or so.

[SportsAutoFreak]

I think it's wrong for any player to make such a gesture during a game, but with Manziel, this is another mistake and it seems they keep adding up.

[davdukes4]

I think it's wrong for any player to make such a gesture during a game, but with Manziel, this is another mistake and it seems they keep adding up.

****breaking news****

Eye Witness's report, johnny Manziel was spotted committing a misdemeanor crime early Tuesday morning!

he was seen Jaywalking on his way to practice

His crime spree continued later on when TMZ reporter witnessed this troubled young man roll a stop sign.

To cap it off, Johnny let out a large fart on the practice field. Will the justice system follow up and issue a citation for polluting public air? We will continue with live coverage on these breaking stories!

[auctionjmm]

Remember when this happened? lol!!

0SGsdNFeA0w

Trust me, we still feel this way. Johnny will be fine. The entire team looks like garbage right now trying to work out the kinks of a completely new offense/defense, and Pettine is dragging his feet on this whole QB thing, which should have been decided already. You can thank Andrew Luck and RG3 that we now expect rookie QBs to come in and contend for Super Bowls. People forget what Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers had to do to become great. This time will pass, and we'll see what he's really about on the field a year or two from now.

[davdukes4]

Trust me, we still feel this way. Johnny will be fine. The entire team looks like garbage right now trying to work out the kinks of a completely new offense/defense, and Pettine is dragging his feet on this whole QB thing, which should have been decided already. You can thank Andrew Luck and RG3 that we now expect rookie QBs to come in and contend for Super Bowls. People forget what Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers had to do to become great. This time will pass, and we'll see what he's really about on the field a year or two from now.

Brees had early struggles in SD and don't forget Brady didn't start his first year.

[BostonNut]

Brees had early struggles in SD and don't forget Brady didn't start his first year.

LOL what?

Brady was 4th on the depth chart his first year, behind a franchise quarterback...

[norskarv]

Manziel is the Justin Bieber of the NFL. Extreme media scrutiny and taunting from players and fans is going to cause this guy to eventually crumble.

[davdukes4]

LOL what?

Brady was 4th on the depth chart his first year, behind a franchise quarterback...

Being 4th on the depth chart behind a franchise quarterback would be beneficial to Manziel. This isn't meant to be a knock on Brady's road to greatness. It is just another example of a qb who benefited from sitting, learning and developing.

[I pull scrubs]

Maybe he was flipping off Brandon Merriweather & DeAngelo Hall for supporting Michael Brown.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/08/19/in-preseason-game-redskins-run-onto-field-with-hands-up-for-michael-brown/

[freethrowtommy]

Is there a chick picking his pocket in that pic?

Someone is looking too closely at Jay's lil' Cutler...

[glen87]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/look-johnny-manziels-face-found-131345657.html

[glen87]

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/D9fBZFb_wOu89hQwkww0GQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http://globalfinance.zenfs.com/en_us/Finance/US_AFTP_SILICONALLEY_H_LIVE/The_Look_On_Johnny_Manziel%27s-a0545ebe60346a6eed485c5b51f36715

[davdukes4]

Redskins defensive end Brian Orakpo

called it "hilarious," telling ESPN: "We were messing with him a little bit, just saying this ain't college and stuff like that. We were having a little fun. Manziel flipped us off. It was something funny. We were all laughing on the sidelines."

[SportsAutoFreak]

From the stuff I have read from Hoyer, I see somebody who acts professional and goes about his business. From the stuff I have read from Manziel, not good.

[panther252]

Redskins defensive end Brian Orakpo

called it "hilarious," telling ESPN: "We were messing with him a little bit, just saying this ain't college and stuff like that. We were having a little fun. Manziel flipped us off. It was something funny. We were all laughing on the sidelines."

Of course it was hilarious. Any time you troll someone so bad that they lose composure it's hilarious. Just like on BO. :D

[auctionjmm]

From the stuff I have read from Hoyer, I see somebody who acts professional and goes about his business. From the stuff I have read from Manziel, not good.

Browns players have been quoted as saying Johnny is one of the hardest working rookies they have ever played with. His locker room personality is nothing like what the camera captures in the offseason. Flipping the bird while having fun with the Redskins bench is no big deal. Those guys say far worse at the bottom of the pile. As long as Johnny keeps working hard, and when it starts to show on the field, the outside stuff won't matter anymore.

[BostonNut]

Browns players have been quoted as saying Johnny is one of the hardest working rookies they have ever played with. His locker room personality is nothing like what the camera captures in the offseason. Flipping the bird while having fun with the Redskins bench is no big deal. Those guys say far worse at the bottom of the pile. As long as Johnny keeps working hard, and when it starts to show on the field, the outside stuff won't matter anymore.

Really? All the analysts that come on EEI say that he can't learn the playbook to save his life.

[steelcityguy]

Oh please, please, please let that no talent punk be the starter week one in Pittsburgh. I'm gonna see me some Johnny No Talent getting killed, then replaced by the following week's starter, lol.

[freethrowtommy]

Browns players have been quoted as saying Johnny is one of the hardest working rookies they have ever played with. His locker room personality is nothing like what the camera captures in the offseason. Flipping the bird while having fun with the Redskins bench is no big deal. Those guys say far worse at the bottom of the pile. As long as Johnny keeps working hard, and when it starts to show on the field, the outside stuff won't matter anymore.

Really? All the analysts that come on EEI say that he can't learn the playbook to save his life.

If there is a source that backs up the players saying what they said, I trust them more than "analysts".

Anyone with a TV camera and a stupid idea can be an analyst.

[chezball]

The only thing Mr. johnny football is going to flip are burgers in a couple of years.

[davdukes4]

If there is a source that backs up the players saying what they said, I trust them more than "analysts".

Anyone with a TV camera and a stupid idea can be an analyst.

Case in point.

http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag327/usadave85/ronj_zps51df6169.jpg (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/usadave85/media/ronj_zps51df6169.jpg.html)

The worst part is hearing about all of his 70 hour cram sessions....

[cking]

I wish Ray Lewis was still playing and the Browns opened the season against the Ravens

[WYTMKE]

just call him a "CANCER"

[AlabamaSlamma]

Long live Johnny Manziel. Love that guy.

NOT IN A HOMOSEXUAL WAY, just to clarify.

EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION.

I JUST THINK YOUR OPINION IS INCORRECT AND I DON'T RESPECT YOU.

...........ivelostmytrainofthought.

[arkeeper]

If there is a source that backs up the players saying what they said, I trust them more than "analysts".

Anyone with a TV camera and a stupid idea can be an analyst.

Is there a source for the player comments? The only ones I heard were along the lines of "he comes to meetings and pays attention", nothing out of the ordinary and something that any quarterback should be doing.

[auctionjmm]

Is there a source for the player comments? The only ones I heard were along the lines of "he comes to meetings and pays attention", nothing out of the ordinary and something that any quarterback should be doing.

I live in Cleveland so I've got 4 weeks of player and coach interviews, and local radio talk mashed into my head right now. I couldn't even tell you what day or time. I just remember the segment being whether or not Johnny's partying has impacted his learning curve and that's when players were speaking up. They specifically said that he is NOT ordinary, in the sense that he has done far more studying and prep than the average rookie in his position.

P.S. And Mike Pettine has been quoted several times saying that Johnny is ahead of schedule from where Pettine thought he would be in his learning.

[auctionjmm]

I'll add this....

Only in football do rookies get all the pressure to be stars from day 1. If Andrew Wiggins struggles through the first 2 pre-season Timberwolves games, he wouldn't be called a bust because of it. If Kris Bryant goes 0 for 8 in his first two Cubs games, he wouldn't be called a bust because of it. Only in the NFL do players get 4 weeks to prove themselves before the sky starts to fall. This is what destroys careers.

[superynaldo]

Who cares... He was jacking with the Redskins D... Forgot he had cameras everywhere, but it's not like he was flipping off the camera guys after the game... He's not the first or last to do this stuff...

[GB5HOF]

ESPN sure loves to cover white back up QB's that 75% of the general population hates. The only thing that would make the coverage funnier, would be to have Tebow in the studio breaking down the tape. So many HOT TAKES!

[Lionsman81]

All this does is send a message to every defense out there that he will lose his composure. Just like in college when he autographed the air and did his money sign he just doesn't have any self controll the same can be said of his partying.

[whodatbeastly16]

YES no self control= bust

[nic9212]

Johnny needs to compose himself