fantasy Keeper Dez Bryant or Jimmy Graham

[49ers_Swag]

1/2 ppr league 20 yards 1 point

Toss up....

Neither likely to make it back to me if not kept.

[Hagaman42]

Graham in my opinion

[jsnake89]

Dez all the way.

[Collectable]

Graham because there are other top WR's but only 1 Graham :)

[asujbl]

Graham

He's basically already a Top 5 WR in terms of Fantasy - and the TE eligibility is key because WR is much deeper than TE - so you can get that 2nd or 3rd WR much later in the Draft

It really isn't even close if you ask me.

I'm only taking Megatron over Graham

[MI Rob]

Jimmy all the way

[Scottish Punk]

Easy - Graham. The difference in points scoring over your opponent's TE will be greater than Dez's difference (if any) per week at the WR spot.

[49ers_Swag]

Graham

He's basically already a Top 5 WR in terms of Fantasy - and the TE eligibility is key because WR is much deeper than TE - so you can get that 2nd or 3rd WR much later in the Draft

It really isn't even close if you ask me.

I'm only taking Megatron over Graham

This is pretty much my logic and why I am leaning this way.

Thanks fellas...

Also, I'm keeping Peyton Manning, Nick Foles, Shady McCoy.

We start 2 QBs and it's 6pts passing TD so QB value is high.

Foles
Manning
Shady
Jimmy Graham

Not bad.

[dirtydistance]

Keep both and throw Foles back into the draft. Had 1 good year and you could win with Carson Palmer, Andy dalton, big Ben or even Geno smith or ej Manuel as your qb2

[asujbl]

Keep both and throw Foles back into the draft. Had 1 good year and you could win with Carson Palmer, Andy dalton, big Ben or even Geno smith or ej Manuel as your qb2

I absolutely agree with this now knowing you are keeping 4 guys.

You don't keep Foles over Dez if you have that option.

There are plenty of #2 QB's you can plug into that spot.

Manning, Shady, Graham, Dez is lethal

[Divino]

This is pretty much my logic and why I am leaning this way.

Thanks fellas...

Also, I'm keeping Peyton Manning, Nick Foles, Shady McCoy.

We start 2 QBs and it's 6pts passing TD so QB value is high.

Foles
Manning
Shady
Jimmy Graham

Not bad.


Are most teams keeping 2 QB's? I'd almost consider Dez over foles as the keeper, and draft your second QB early (first or second round).

Unless most teams are keeping 2 QB's then I can see there won't be much left to pick from.

[Skootown]

As others have said, definitely Graham.

There are 3 good fantasy tight ends right now, but tons of options at WR.

[Cades]

Yep, graham over dez, dez over foles

[49ers_Swag]

Everyone keeps two QBs. One guy told me he's keeping 3

I have own three out of four years and 2nd the year i didn't.

Traditional league Dez over Foles is a no brainer but 6pts passing TD is significant plus not many starting QBs available

[Nyfancam01]

DEZ for sure!!!! Pick Dez, he won't let you down.

[ucLAkers]

Graham...and Dez over Foles...

WRs are deep...but Dez is on top of that pile.....besides, Chip Kelly is probably on the crusade to get Darron Thomas from AL Portland. Then he can have his old Oregon backfield.

[wheeler281]

In a keeper I would go Graham instantly

[asujbl]

Graham over Dez is easy - I can't believe that's even a debate.

Dez or Foles is the tough one - but if everyone, as it appears, keeps 2 QB's then it probably makes sense to keep Foles.

Seems like a waste though. I'd much rather roll with Dez and a QB in the 15-20 range if I could - but sounds like that's not how the league tends to work

[49ers_Swag]

Curious what more people think on Foles vs Dez.

Foles is an automatic 20+ per week.

Dez is probably 12.5?

[asujbl]

Curious what more people think on Foles vs Dez.

Foles is an automatic 20+ per week.

Dez is probably 15

Problem is that's not apples to apples.

Foles is 20 a week (although he has no where to go but down) but how many a week is Romo? Dalton? Geno Smith? Bradford?

Where as Dez is a Top 5 WR - how does he compare to the 20th ranked WR?

That's what you need to compare.

[Cades]

cant really look at it that way

It is how much will dez outscore another WR compared to how much foles will outscore another QB.

Either way, I keep the better player here, Dez is a borderline first rounder and no doubt a second.

You already have a top 3 QB in peyton to carry whatever other QB you get. First or second pick on your QB should give plenty of options and maybe even pickup foles again

[49ers_Swag]

cant really look at it that way

It is how much will dez outscore another WR compared to how much foles will outscore another QB.

Either way, I keep the better player here, Dez is a borderline first rounder and no doubt a second.

You already have a top 3 QB in peyton to carry whatever other QB you get. First or second pick on your QB should give plenty of options and maybe even pickup foles again

Very good points...

Dez or Graham would not get back to me but slight chance Foles would.

I view it this way:

Foles will get me 20 per week

Dez will get me 12

Carson Palmer types will be inconsistent and probably average 8-12 ppm

Tons of WRs can get 8 ppg..

20+8 vs. 12+10


Think in about Dez jimmy shady and Peyton now lol

[asujbl]

Very good points...

Dez or Graham would not get back to me but slight chance Foles would.

I view it this way:

Foles will get me 20 per week

Dez will get me 12

Carson Palmer types will be inconsistent and probably average 8-12 ppm

Tons of WRs can get 8 ppg..

20+8 vs. 12+10

Just curious -

Why do you assume Foles will get you 20 a week? Because he had a record setting season last year as far as his TD/INT ratio?

I mean take out the 7 TD game he had and he had 19 TD's over his other 10 games - putting up about 244 yards per game.

Most Fantasy leagues that's probably around 15 points per game - without factoring in what will be an INT spike in 2014

[runrickyrun]

The drop-off from Graham (& a healthy Gronk) is huge, whereas the drop-off from Dez to the next 5+ receivers is minimal.

Go with Graham.

[MC80_LCM]

I say keep Foles. In my ESPN league where TDs are also 6 points, Foles averaged over 26 points per game and that includes the game where he replaced Vick in week 4 and didn't play close to a full game and it includes the Dallas game where he got injured and missed time. The 20th highest scoring QB was Geno Smith at around 13.5.

Last year the difference between Dez, 12.5 per game, and the 20th best WR Torrey Smith at 8.7 is actually quite small.

I love Dez and I think he will be great but in a 2 QB, 6 points per passing TD league I think you have to keep Foles.

[codered]

If everyone is keeping 2 qbs what is the chance one blows a pick on a 3rd? You let dez go he will be taken very soon. I will bet foles makes it back to you as guys won't be rushing to get another qb

[Divino]

I think it also depends on what pick you have in the re-draft. Maybe you can throw foles back in, keep Dez, then re-draft foles in the first.

Assuming most people are keeping 2, possibly 3 Qbs, I'd have to think they will be targeting RB's and WR's in the first couple rounds, not another QB. Could be easy for you to keep Dez and re-draft foles.

If everyone is keeping 2 qbs what is the chance one blows a pick on a 3rd? You let dez go he will be taken very soon. I will bet foles makes it back to you as guys won't be rushing to get another qb

EDIT ^^^^^Wizard right here! Same idea!

[coltsfan23]

I'd also lean with the party of Dez over Foles. I'm not banking a big year for Foles personally.

If you don't keep Foles, what would be your other likely options for QB2?

[SandersAD#1]

There's so few good TEs Compared to WRs, I'll take Graham.

[rynogeis]

Jimmy and Dez.

Any other scenario is preposterous.

[jbmets95]

very close but id go with Jimmy

complete difference maker at the position

[49ers_Swag]

I'd also lean with the party of Dez over Foles. I'm not banking a big year for Foles personally.

If you don't keep Foles, what would be your other likely options for QB2?

I'm 100% sure 13 QBs will be kept but possibly 16-20.

Eli manning, Carson Palmer, Fitzpatrick, schaub, maybe locker, sam Bradford, Hoyer, rookies are likely options.

A few years ago Eli was pretty good.

The guy that told me he is keeping 3 has Cam Newton, Brees, Rivers.

[FanboyOfNone]

Jimmy and Dez.

Any other scenario is preposterous.

I'm with this. Even if T-Will and Escobar are likely to steal a number of Dez' targets.

Foles had a once in a lifetime streak last year. To add to that, he lost DeSean Jackson. Signs point to a decent statistical drop-off. This is the guy who could barely summon up enough offense to beat Kyle Orton's defense incapable Cowboys in Week 17.

[49ers_Swag]

I'm with this. Even if T-Will and Escobar are likely to steal a number of Dez' targets.

Foles had a once in a lifetime streak last year. To add to that, he lost DeSean Jackson. Signs point to a decent statistical drop-off. This is the guy who could barely summon up enough offense to beat Kyle Orton's defense incapable Cowboys in Week 17.

Desean was nothing special prior to the Kelly system.

I would argue that Maclin can match Desean and could even be a better fit.

Darren Sproles adds another dimension to the offense.

Maclin and Sproles makes this team better than last year.

Familiarity with the system will also help.

INT ratio can't be as good but fantasy ppg can be the same or greater easily.

[FanboyOfNone]

Desean was nothing special prior to the Kelly system.

I would argue that Maclin can match Desean and could even be a better fit.

Darren Sproles adds another dimension to the offense.

Maclin and Sproles makes this team better than last year.

Familiarity with the system will also help.

INT ratio can't be as good but fantasy ppg can be the same or greater easily.

Yeah, I'll give you Sproles and maybe Maclin. I could be biased as a Cowboys fan, as well.

My gut just tells me Foles isn't going to have the year people are thinking he'll have.

[bradsholly]

was this ever really a question?

[49ers_Swag]

IDK- I suppose since I kept Graham and Foles.

FWIW I had Harvin and DJax on my roster so I know there will be some decent WRs available.

I still believe it's best to have 40 points locked up at QB, the most valuable position in our scoring structure.

Thanks for helping me lean Graham over Dez.