Indy's Custom Grading & Pressing Services

[IndySportsCards]

I've gotten a few new requests this week so though I'd post this for anyone interested. If you have books you want graded and/or pressed, please read my Submission Form (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zi0KO1hKgOGRl1GHWivpp3JDdTVftTUUvz67o-SAp0Y/edit) and it should answer any questions you have in regards to getting your books graded and/or pressed utilizing my services. :)!

[Deliverence]

I love that you have a nice easy submission form now. Business must be picking up!

[WhacksPacks]

For us "newbs" (relatively speaking) can you please tell me what 'pressing' does? I've pretended for a while that I know wha tit is..but really I have no effing clue.

Also your payment is on the way this week for my 2 CGC orders through you :)

[IndySportsCards]

Not so much that it's picking up, It helps me stay organized.

Pressing can fix issues with books like spine roll, wavy covers, non color breaking bends & dents. Helps get better grades on books.

[Qexit]

Not so much that it's picking up, It helps me stay organized.

Pressing can fix issues with books like spine roll, wavy covers, non color breaking bends & dents. Helps get better grades on books.That final sentence is a bit worrying for me. Since pressing is a form of restoration, do you notify the grading company that the comic has been restored when you submit it or just pass it off as original unrestored ? The former is what I would hope happens, the latter would be fraud and devalues the grading system if restored comics are not recorded as being such.

[kyleg40]

Pressing is not a restoration. You can press a comic the old fashioned way. Under 3-4 heavy books. It takes out spine rolls that way also. Restoration is adding a touch up to the original. This is a non-invasive way of fixing an issue.

[IndySportsCards]

CGC does not classify pressing as restoration, in fact they offer the service at a much higher cost

[Useless Hero]

Pressing is not a restoration. You can press a comic the old fashioned way. Under 3-4 heavy books. It takes out spine rolls that way also. Restoration is adding a touch up to the original. This is a non-invasive way of fixing an issue.

Right on the money.

CGC even has an affiliated company, CCS who perform pressing and dry cleaning on your books which isn't classed as restoration.

[kyleg40]

I am Indy's pr firm..:)

[Qexit]

CGC does not classify pressing as restoration, in fact they offer the service at a much higher costWhich I interpret to mean:

"CGC does not classify pressing as restoration because they offer this service as part of their business."

'Pressing' or 'flattening' to return a book or comic to a better condition to improve its value is a form of restoration and should be declared on any official assessment or grade. I find it troubling to hear that an organisation like CGC does not recognise this fact.

[IndySportsCards]

I would argue it's preservation, not restoration. Either way, in reality it's what CGC thinks as they are the ones grading the books and are the authority on the subject.

[kyleg40]

Which I interpret to mean:

"CGC does not classify pressing as restoration because they offer this service as part of their business."

'Pressing' or 'flattening' to return a book or comic to a better condition to improve its value is a form of restoration and should be declared on any official assessment or grade. I find it troubling to hear that an organisation like CGC does not recognise this fact.

How about it gets explained this way. If you don't like pressing, don't get it done. Same thing as TV, you don't like a show change the channel.

[Qexit]

I would argue it's preservation, not restoration. Either way, in reality it's what CGC thinks as they are the ones grading the books and are the authority on the subject.I know this is nit-picking but preservation is taking steps to ensure that no further deterioration takes place while restoration is any action taken to return something to a previous condition. Pressing is definitely the latter.

CGC is certainly the company grading the books but if they are making up their own rules about what constitutes restoration to aid their own business aims, then I would not view them as being the 'authority' on the subject. I doubt museums and the like would agree with them over what does and does not constitute restoration work.

[IndySportsCards]

Yeah, this is a controversy/debate for the ages.

[Qexit]

How about it gets explained this way. If you don't like pressing, don't get it done. Same thing as TV, you don't like a show change the channel.I don't have a problem with people using restoration techniques like pressing to restore comics, I do have a problem with it not being declared as restoration work in official gradings.

[Qexit]

Yeah, this is a controversy/debate for the ages.True, so I apologise for hi-jacking your thread. Please accept my apologies.

[21Pittsburgh58]

I don't think you are hijacking the thread. I think you all are bringing up some good points.

[IndySportsCards]

I don't think you are hijacking the thread. I think you all are bringing up some good points.

I agree. It's all good. :)

[John91C]

I know this is nit-picking but preservation is taking steps to ensure that no further deterioration takes place while restoration is any action taken to return something to a previous condition. Pressing is definitely the latter.

CGC is certainly the company grading the books but if they are making up their own rules about what constitutes restoration to aid their own business aims, then I would not view them as being the 'authority' on the subject. I doubt museums and the like would agree with them over what does and does not constitute restoration work.

Actually museums "conserve" paintings (canvas) by stretching/misting them so they do not "Dry" out. Granted I don't know the whole process but it's not considered restoration but rather conservation.

Isn't pressing considered the same thing? Say for instance due to shipping the spine gets a slight roll...adding pressure and humidity to make it go back into the "original" shape it is supposed to be in (coming off the printing press).

I don't see it as restoration...pressing is just a way to help get the comic in the condition it was meant to be in...

It's not adding anything (materials) to make the comic better, i.e. coloring, trimming, adding pulp to make corners better, etc...

[kyleg40]

Doesn't cgc add some type of paper to the slabs to keep the comic preserved also? I am not sure. I think trimming, coloring etc. actually alters the comic..Pressing doesn't add anything to it. It just flattens it out. Nothing intrusive. thats how I was told its looked at.

[Carrbeaz]

As somebody who helped Indy early on with pressing, he knows what he is doing and will not harm anyone's books.

I was professionally trained in document restoration at the Smithsonian and pressing is in no way shape or form a restorative process.

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As somebody who helped Indy early on with pressing, he knows what he is doing and will not harm anyone's books.

I was professionally trained in document restoration at the Smithsonian and pressing is in no way shape or form a restorative process.

I agree ... not restoration , just bringing back to its former self for eye appeal

Indy = Trust, great guy ... send him your books !

[Gus Fring]

I just got back 6 books that I submitted to Indy for pressing (including some heavy hitters like my Avengers #4 and Marvel Preview #7).
The books look INCREDIBLE! Seriously, I wish I would have taken pictures before I sent the books to him so you guys could see the difference.
I think a few of the books went up a full point in grade, if not more.
And his packaging was incredible. I could have ran that package over with my car and the books would have been just fine, haha.
As many junkies above me have already said, if you need your comic books pressed, Indy is your guy.

[nastynice]

does pressing have any positive effect on the color brightness/gloss?

[IndySportsCards]

does pressing have any positive effect on the color brightness/gloss?

Not directly, but if the cover is wavy it'll smooth it out giving it a better appearance.

[nastynice]

Indy, do you offer CGC signatures? Let's say I have a CGC book, or even just a regular book, can I send that to you and then receive it back as a CGC signature series?

If so, can you either post or PM me price? thanks

[IndySportsCards]

yes, I do from time to time. PM me who you're looking to get a signature from and what book you're wanting signed, I'll let you know if/when possible and how much