THOUGHTS ON prewarcardcollector ON EBAY

[bobluck1980]

I LOVE IT WHEN THIS EBAY SELLER TALKS ABOUT Auction Integrity, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALOT OF HIS ACTIONS THEY ARE CLEARLY SHILLED BY PEOPLE WHO BID 46 PERCENT, 56 PERCENT, AND 96 PERCENT ON HIS STUFF. THEIS EXACT CARD WAS ON EBAY 1800 OBO AND 1200 BUY NOW 400769240126 SELLS FOR OVER 2K BECAUSE OF THE SHILLING. EVEN WORSE IS THIS CARD THAT I WAS TRYING TO SELL 351114411273, THE CARD IS CLEARLY OFF CENTERED. SO I SCANNED THE BAR CODE WITH AN AP AND OF COURSE IT DOESN'T MATCH. THE CARD WAS SWITCHED OUT AND NOW THE GUY IS STUCK HAVING A CARD HE PAID 5800 FOR.

[shrevecity]

46 PERCENT, 56 PERCENT, AND 96 PERCENT ON HIS STUFF.

Without more info these numbers don't really mean anything. I rarely bid on items on Ebay, so if I find a seller that has 10 items I want to bid on its possible I would show 100% with that seller. Remember those numbers are for the past 30 days only.


I will say though that frosting on the right side of the holder is suspect.

[bobluck1980]

That means for those 3 ebay account accounts 46 56 and 96 percent of their bids are too prewar, anybody who can't figure out whats going on has issues

[amazingpacks]

you are probably right but in some cases it could be legit.

I have a buyers ID just for Probstein items . that id has over 90% bids with Probstein . I want everyone to think that ID is a shiller so it scares off potential bidders. It may or may not be working but i have gotten some great deals buying from probstein.

Its all a crazy game and impossible to stop.

[jmscoggin]

you are probably right but in some cases it could be legit.

I have a buyers ID just for Probstein items . that id has over 90% bids with Probstein . I want everyone to think that ID is a shiller so it scares off potential bidders. It may or may not be working but i have gotten some great deals buying from probstein.

Its all a crazy game and impossible to stop.

Lol, wtf? Why the hell did this even surprise me? Your brain works completely different than most. In the thousands of Ebay items I have bought, not once did I ever ponder a strategy to "scare off other potential bidders". You are either cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs or crazy like a fox.

[chezball]

you are probably right but in some cases it could be legit.

I have a buyers ID just for Probstein items . that id has over 90% bids with Probstein . I want everyone to think that ID is a shiller so it scares off potential bidders. It may or may not be working but i have gotten some great deals buying from probstein.

Its all a crazy game and impossible to stop.

Most people know to stay away from probstein,so your bidding history isn't scaring anyone away.

[bobluck1980]

did you read the post even he sold for kobe rookie for 5800 that was switched out its probably a psa 8 and its 100 percent a fake label go scan it on ebay, so either he wasn't smart enough to scan it before listing or he knew it was a fake label and listed anyway

[TheHeel]

I am highly confident that both Probstein and PWCC both do not shill their auctions. The people who consign with them shill their own items. I use Probstein a lot and most of my stuff go the average of most auctions. I have incidences where I got a little less than I wanted and incidences where I got more than I thought I would.

[TheHeel]

you are probably right but in some cases it could be legit.

I have a buyers ID just for Probstein items . that id has over 90% bids with Probstein . I want everyone to think that ID is a shiller so it scares off potential bidders. It may or may not be working but i have gotten some great deals buying from probstein.

Its all a crazy game and impossible to stop.

That's not right. I generally like your banter but what you do, I feel, is unethical.

[shrevecity]

did you read the post even he sold for kobe rookie for 5800 that was switched out its probably a psa 8 and its 100 percent a fake label go scan it on ebay, so either he wasn't smart enough to scan it before listing or he knew it was a fake label and listed anyway

Cert Verification (http://www.psacard.com/Cert/03090302)

The cert number is legit, the issue I have is the frosting on the right could indicate this is a switched card. BUT I have seen other PSA 10 cards that off center before

[bobluck1980]

the jordan gold label prewar shilled i know because is old him the card at nationals, i know the guy with the kobe hope he makes it right

[Gmrson]

I am highly confident that both Probstein and PWCC both do not shill their auctions. The people who consign with them shill their own items. I use Probstein a lot and most of my stuff go the average of most auctions. I have incidences where I got a little less than I wanted and incidences where I got more than I thought I would.

I agree, and have believe I have bought from both. I don't have the patience to dig into the whole shilling mess, so I decide how much I'm willing to spend on a card. If it goes higher, I don't buy it.

[shrevecity]

the jordan gold label prewar shilled i know because is old him the card at nationals, i know the guy with the kobe hope he makes it right

So because you sold it to him means it is shilled? Sounds like you are upset he made a profit on it.

[amazingpacks]

That's not right. I generally like your banter but what you do, I feel, is unethical.

Unethical? Unethical is charging for services listed on a website and not providing those services. Unethical is accusing sellers of shilling when the seller is not shilling. Unethical = redemption in products.

I am just a buyer. buying cards.

[sjscout]

Unethical? Unethical is charging for services listed on a website and not providing those services. Unethical is accusing sellers of shilling when the seller is not shilling. Unethical = redemption in products.

I am just a buyer. buying cards.

and here we go.............

[bobthewondercat]

you are probably right but in some cases it could be legit.

I have a buyers ID just for Probstein items . that id has over 90% bids with Probstein . I want everyone to think that ID is a shiller so it scares off potential bidders. It may or may not be working but i have gotten some great deals buying from probstein.

Its all a crazy game and impossible to stop.

Wowzers

That is kind of amazing. Weird, but kind of amazing.

[ManInTheMirror]

I have a buyers ID just for Probstein items . that id has over 90% bids with Probstein . I want everyone to think that ID is a shiller so it scares off potential bidders. It may or may not be working but i have gotten some great deals buying from probstein.

Its all a crazy game and impossible to stop.
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[PDawson21]

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[amazingpacks]

Wowzers

That is kind of amazing. Weird, but kind of amazing.

thats nothing. i have another buyer ID that has no paypal connected, 2 strikes and low feedback to find sellers that set restrictions to "strict" as those auctions end lower comparded to sellers with no restrictions. Good deals!


All these ideas come from complaints i read on this forum. Keep on setting your restrictions and blocking 100's of ebay buyers. Your just driving your final prices lower and lower.

[benshobbies]

I'm buying stock in the popcorn industry.....

Today has been a good day for popcorn....

[Addison]

I'm buying stock in the popcorn industry.....

Today has been a good day for popcorn....

The irony is strong with this post.

[bobluck1980]

i don't get how anyone can agree with what he has been doing if you are supposed to be an expert you should scan a high dollar psa card before selling it and i guess thats a lesson for anyone who didn't know that, I didn't know that until about 3 years ago but i rarely buy PSA

[sjscout]

thats nothing. i have another buyer ID that has no paypal connected, 2 strikes and low feedback to find sellers that set restrictions to "strict" as those auctions end lower comparded to sellers with no restrictions. Good deals!


All these ideas come from complaints i read on this forum. Keep on setting your restrictions and blocking 100's of ebay buyers. Your just driving your final prices lower and lower.

your batsh1t crazy!!!!
that's why your threads are the best

[fullmetal]

One of the best sellers in the business. I highly recommend both Rick (Probstein123) and Brent (prewarcardcollector.)

[sjscout]

One of the best sellers in the business. I highly recommend both Rick (Probstein123) and Brent (prewarcardcollector.)

They are both smart businessmen. If I ever did consign, I would go that route.

[TheHeel]

One of the best sellers in the business. I highly recommend both Rick (Probstein123) and Brent (prewarcardcollector.)

I only have dealt with PWCC through buying. Everything went great. The best rates and customer service is Probstein. I was pissed at him once when one of my PSA items that I won, came in broken. I asked for the cost of a new PSA holder but was denied. Other than that, I have nothing but good experiences with P123.

[amazingpacks]

spent over $10,000 with Probstein123 this year. Great seller, great prices and fast shipping. Consigned a couple of times this year and it was easy,low fees and fast payment.

this weeks haul.
http://i.imgur.com/Dv1BAjQl.jpg

your batsh1t crazy!!!!
that's why your threads are the best

LOL

[sjscout]

spent over $10,000 with Probstein123 this year. Great seller, great prices and fast shipping. Consigned a couple of times this year and it was easy,low fees and fast payment.

this weeks haul.
http://i.imgur.com/Dv1BAjQl.jpg



LOL

the batshi#t crazy comment was regarding your post about multiple ebay accts.

Which username or twitter account do you use with probstein? We know you have many. Anyhow,

Amazing how a guy who buys so much, as you say...does not have a sinlge I trader feedback for something done thru paypal on the forums. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[amazingpacks]

the batshi#t crazy comment was regarding your post about multiple ebay accts.

Which username or twitter account do you use with probstein? We know you have many. Anyhow,

Amazing how a guy who buys so much, as you say...does not have a sinlge I trader feedback for something done thru paypal on the forums. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

yea , i know.......................


A lot of things go out of country direct to buyers. Not really into PCing or dealing higher end cards on forums with so much back and forth negotiating for cards.

I have no idea how that itrader even works, just not interested i guess.

[sjscout]

yea , i know.......................


A lot of things go out of country direct to buyers. Not really into PCing or dealing higher end cards on forums with so much back and forth negotiating for cards.

I have no idea how that itrader even works, just not interested i guess.

TOO BAD.

IS THIS YOUR WEBSITE

ComCrater Sports group (http://www.ComCrater.com)

[sjscout]

TOO BAD.

IS THIS YOUR WEBSITE

ComCrater Sports group (http://www.ComCrater.com)


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[sjscout]

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[amazingpacks]

TOO BAD.

IS THIS YOUR WEBSITE

ComCrater Sports group (http://www.ComCrater.com)

dont order anything on that. have some people working on templates on various designs for a website that was part of a collection i bought that included templates for websites(10 websites partially finished). have no idea what to do and what is worth doing.

I even had the guys make a "sample" site for a particular member here but need to know if that person wants or needs my help(kinda felt sorry that everyone picks on him).

Currently have FB,Twitter,websites,domain names and blogs all in limbo, i bought the whole package for the cards. It could be worth something if someone had the time to utilize everything. really do not have the drive to do cards on a full blown scale.

any ideas or business proposition would be interesting.:confused:

[sjscout]

dont order anything on that. have some people working on templates on various designs for a website that was part of a collection i bought that included templates for websites(10 websites partially finished). have no idea what to do and what is worth doing.

I even had the guys make a "sample" site for a particular member here but need to know if that person wants or needs my help(kinda felt sorry that everyone picks on him).

Currently have FB,Twitter,websites,domain names and blogs all in limbo, i bought the whole package for the cards. It could be worth something if someone had the time to utilize everything. really do not have the drive to do cards on a full blown scale.

any ideas or business proposition would be interesting.:confused:

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[amazingpacks]

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I wonder if same guy from

Kev fun on Pinterest (http://www.pinterest.com/freesportscards/)

Probably , i got a book full of passwords.

Here is another template website(DO NOT ORDER) ZCrater (http://zcrater.com/) I think i have 6 more months of "work" for simple changes. It is all in limbo. i screwed around with some of the sites but not really into web design.

All this extra stuff that came with the collection must be worth something. Domains are expiring monthly and they all are redirected to the sites,blogs and whatever. Lots of traffic going unused. IDK.

Had this made for a member on this forum but i think i missed judge his age and goals , so its in limbo now. LOL


http://i.imgur.com/ZrfLDRjl.png?1

[bobluck1980]

when you list something and you shill it to death u aren't making anyone money, i don't get why anyone thinks that is smart, espically if the person u are selling for is bidding it up, on pretty much all cards on ebay you should know roughly what it should end at, like i said anyone on here who buys high dollar psa cards that should be a lesson to always use the scan before buying, technically he could be in some serious trouble for selling that kobe

[shrevecity]

when you list something and you shill it to death u aren't making anyone money, i don't get why anyone thinks that is smart, espically if the person u are selling for is bidding it up, on pretty much all cards on ebay you should know roughly what it should end at, like i said anyone on here who buys high dollar psa cards that should be a lesson to always use the scan before buying, technically he could be in some serious trouble for selling that kobe

Technically no he cannot because the certification matches the card. Could it have been switched yes, but there is ZERO proof other than the slight frosting on the right edge but even that does not look like the frosting you see with a switch-out.. I have seen PSA 10's and even BGS 10s that the centering looks much worse

You know you could get in real trouble accusing someone of a crime with no real proof.

[bobluck1980]

if he's one of the best sellers why is he selling a fake card or is he not smart enough to realize that he's fake, you can't be one of the best dealers if you don't realize thats a fake card

[k13]

Bought from them. Seemed like fair prices. No problems.

I'm sure some are shilled by people bidding on their own cards.