Discussion/Debate/Horror Thread for "Redrafting MLB"

[exitmusicblue]

*** Feel free to post/update your teams here !

Here we go, friends... have at it.

Some crazy picks so far. Free speech free country in effect, nothing personal, no hurt feelings, as a good fantasy game/league should be.


Also: Do NOT DISCUSS OR MENTION, DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, PLAYERS YET TO BE DRAFTED. The PENALTY IS lasting HATRED from your fellow BOers. Thanks !

[xbignick]

The guy who drafted Mike Trout so far is doing the best by default. The owner is a swell guy too.

[lambeauleap87]

It'd probably be a good idea to post all the picks to date here.

[exitmusicblue]

Kimbrel and then Beltre... for a 7-year league..... I just don't understand...

[Bosox34]

It'd probably be a good idea to post all the picks to date here.

Amen to that

[lambeauleap87]

Courtesty of Hollywood42...

1. [1,1] Arizona Diamondbacks: Mike Trout (CF)
2. [1,2] Colorado Rockies: Miguel Cabrera (1b)
3. [1,3] Texas Rangers pick Clayton Kershaw (P)
4. [1,4] Houston Astros, Giancarlo Stanton (RF)
5. [1,5] Minnesota Twins: Andrew McCutchen (CF)
6. [1,6] Boston Red Sox:Madison Bumgarner(SP)
7. [1,7] Chicago White Sox: Buster Posey (C)
8. [1,8] Cubs: Jose Altuve (2B)
9. [1,9] Phillies: Felix Hernandez (SP)
10. [1,10] Reds : Carlos gonzalez(OF)
11. [1,11] Marlins: Josh Donaldson (3B)
12. [1,12] Padres: Paul Goldschmidt(1B)
13. [1,13] Rays: Yasiel Puig (OF)
14. [1,14] Mets: Anthony Rizzo (1B)
15. [1,15] Braves:Jose Abreu (1B)
16. [1,16] Brewers: Anthony Rendon (2B/3B)
17. [1,17] Blue Jays: Chris Sale(SP)
18. [1,18] Yankees: Troy Tulowitski (SS)
19. [1,19] Indians: Jose Fernandez (SP)
20. [1,20] Mariners:Jason Heyward (RF)
21. [1,21] Giants: Craig Kimbrel(RP)
22. [1,22] Pirates: Carlos Gomez (CF)
23. [1,23] Athletics: Sonny Gray (SP)
24. [1,24] Royals: Eric Hosmer (1B)
25. [1,25] Tigers: Bryce Harper (OF)
26. [1,26] Cardinals: Evan Longoria (3B)
27. [1,27] Dodgers: Robinson Cano (2B)
28. [1,28]Orioles: Freddie Freeman (1B)
29. [1,29]Nationals: Billy Hamilton (OF)
30. [1,30]Angels: Starlin Castro (SS)
31. [2,1] Angels: Kris Bryant (3B)
32. [2,2] Nationals: Adam Jones (OF)
33. [2,3] Orioles: Yu Darvish (SP)
34. [2,4] Dodgers: Stephen Strasburg (SP)
35. [2,5] Cardinals : Adam Wainwright SP
36. [2,6] Tigers: Jon Lester (SP)
37. [2,7] Kansas City Royals: Alex Gordon (LF)
38. [2,8] Oakland Athletics: Kyle Seager (3B)
39. [2,9] Pittsburgh Pirates: Corey Kluber (SP)
40. [2, 10] San Francisco Giants: Adrian Beltre (3B)
41. [2, 11] Seattle Mariners: Max Scherzer (SP)
42. [2, 12] Cleveland Indians: Manny Machado (3B)
43. [2, 13] New York Yankees: Matt Harvey (SP)
44. [2, 14] Toronto Blue Jays: David Price (SP)
45. [2, 15] Milwaukee Brewers: Nolan Arenado (3B)

[enbambam6986]

Curious who you guys would of drafted second.

7 year contract+Coors Field=

[Bosox34]

Curious who you guys would of drafted second

Goldy comes to mind. Guy is extremely young and has shown MVP potential. Miggy showed a dropoff this season and think he's in decline mode

[Bhenry4]

I'll have to reserve my judgement for a bit.

[SportsAutoFreak]

I prefer not to explain my picks until after the draft is complete.

[enbambam6986]

I plead the fifth lol

[rugby11]

I think the guy that is running the royals draft is having a worse draft than the famed 2001 Allard Baird $1000 signing bonus draft.

[atoaz12]

I'm all about trash talk but if you guys would kindly not mention undrafted players we'd certainly appreciate it :)!

[death2redemptions]

Damnit exitmusic! You shouldn't have made a second thread, now I have a feeling people who aren't playing will be mentioning all sorts of players who haven't been drafted yet. Not good, not good...

[exitmusicblue]

Damnit exitmusic! You shouldn't have made a second thread, now I have a feeling people who aren't playing will be mentioning all sorts of players who haven't been drafted yet. Not good, not good...

No worries my brothah, I will make the shush rule big and in bold in OP !!

[SportsAutoFreak]

I like the Scherzer pick. What I plan to do is create my own personal and private draft board of whom I most covet. Strategy is important to me.

[lambeauleap87]

Updated list above...I'm going incredibly high injury risk, incredibly high talented young stars. Thoughts?

[SportsAutoFreak]

If you think that works and it does, more power to you. Choose what you think is best.

[TTMMaster19]

Am I the only one that likes the Donaldson pick? Great upside for the next couple years and is the cornerstone for the A's now Cespedes is gone

[Bhenry4]

Updated list above...I'm going incredibly high injury risk, incredibly high talented young stars. Thoughts?

Haha, you're explaining why you took Machado 42nd?!?! I didn't join this as the O's cause I thought that there was no way he fell to the end of the first. I'm obviously a huge homer, but if this was done by real GMs he would have been long gone by the middle of the first. Obviously there is concern with his knees, but there are several guys gone that have concerns. He's already a top 3 defender, and he was heating up like crazy before the injury.

[Bhenry4]

Am I the only one that likes the Donaldson pick?

He's a very good player, but 11th is absurd.

[lambeauleap87]

Haha, you're explaining why you took Machado 42nd?!?! I didn't join this as the O's cause I thought that there was no way he fell to the end of the first. I'm obviously a huge homer, but if this was done by real GMs he would have been long gone by the middle of the first. Obviously there is concern with his knees, but there are several guys gone that have concerns. He's already a top 3 defender, and he was heating up like crazy before the injury.

I thought it was a steal, but that's two high risk, high reward picks for me...I like it, though.

[21Pittsburgh58]

No offense to the guys who drafted them, I just think that these guys were drafted a little high but they're still solid picks:

Jose Altuve
Josh Donaldson
Jason Heyward (this one hurts to say because I'm a big fan of his)
Carlos Gomez (this is out of spite because I'd never want him on the Buccos. Just sayin' :) )
Billy Hamilton
Starlin Castro
Kris Bryant

Again, ONLY my opinion and nothing against anyone that picked them where they did.

You should also continue to put the list in the thread periodically. At least once per page if this ever gets that far.

[TTMMaster19]

Where would you have drafted these guys?

[Bhenry4]

I thought it was a steal, but that's two high risk, high reward picks for me...I like it, though.

My biggest concern of his is exactly what got him hurt last year. His lower half is all over the place during his swing. If he can keep his feet set a little better, I have no worries. Kris Bryant was drafted before him for crying out loud!!!!

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/58/58b60830d26ef5b1f63fd4edb732fe5c220cba41465f207836d5bf861c5ece40.jpg

[exitmusicblue]

My biggest concern of his is exactly what got him hurt last year. His lower half is all over the place during his swing. If he can keep his feet set a little better, I have no worries. Kris Bryant was drafted before him for crying out loud!!!!

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/58/58b60830d26ef5b1f63fd4edb732fe5c220cba41465f207836d5bf861c5ece40.jpg

Almost positive he would've been at least the O's BOer's first pick without the injury. We're having another vote at the end of next season, so there's a nice chance at validation if he plays healthy 'til then.

[wwejhardyrox]

I thought it was a steal, but that's two high risk, high reward picks for me...I like it, though.

I agree because of the situation, however if it was just 2015 I think he would be a solid pick where he was selected.

[SportsAutoFreak]

Good names picked, but the ones I want are still there.

[NeedChapmans]

I believe I will be drafting the first left handed only team in MLB history. If I have them all, then everyone else is right handed, making my match-ups AWESOME.

[SportsAutoFreak]

Good choices.

[SportsAutoFreak]

So if the latest selection is Jordan Zimmerman, does that mean I can still draft Jordan Zimmermann?

[Bosox34]

I believe I will be drafting the first left handed only team in MLB history. If I have them all, then everyone else is right handed, making my match-ups AWESOME.

But if the majority of the batters are right handed then......?


But yeah like your picks so far. David price fell way beyond what I thought he would go. Thought he would be in the early 2nd round or late first round

[kinar]

I prefer not to explain my picks until after the draft is complete.

Is that because you secretly hate the giants and want to reverse their winning?

[SportsAutoFreak]

Not at all. I want to win and I think I can win with whom I've drafted so far and with some other players I have in mind.

[ageofreason13]

I prefer not to explain my picks until after the draft is complete.

Trying to buy time to justify those picks?:p





I kid, but I know you had your reasons. I'll be curious to see what your strategy was when the draft is over.

[ageofreason13]

He's a very good player, but 11th is absurd.

Donaldson is a plus defender, and a solid producer. If you take him out of Oakland to a neutral park he is going to be a .290 hitter with 25 HRs. With offense on the decline he is a top 20 position player.


That being said, I am biased because he went to Auburn.

[death2redemptions]

Trying to buy time to justify those picks?:p





I kid, but I know you had your reasons. I'll be curious to see what your strategy was when the draft is over.

I can understand the Kimbrel pick because he now has someone who is the best at their position (closer)...I just wouldn't have taken him in the first round.

[exitmusicblue]

I can understand the Kimbrel pick because he now has someone who is the best at their position (closer)...I just wouldn't have taken him in the first round.

For sure on Kimbrel.. was my thought, as well.

[Bhenry4]

I can understand the Kimbrel pick because he now has someone who is the best at their position (closer)...I just wouldn't have taken him in the first round.

A guy that plays 3-4 innings in a week as a first rounder is not a great strategy for building a franchise.

[SportsAutoFreak]

I've said before that if I were to take any player to start a franchise, it'd be Kimbrel.

[Bhenry4]

I've said before that if I were to take any player to start a franchise, it'd be Kimbrel.

Well, in that case, I change my mind.

[exitmusicblue]

I've said before that if I were to take any player to start a franchise, it'd be Kimbrel.

Hey, respect for your sticking to your guns + having been a good sport through the ribbin' (including from me). Let's see how this all plays out. :cool:

[SportsAutoFreak]

Thanks. That's all we can do. I have a philosophy on certain aspects of the game. Some pieces taken would've been nice, but if my plan falls into my lap and even if I win a single championship, I consider this a success. If I don't win one, I can say I gave it my best and drafted how I saw things. Kimbrel and Beltre can be very valuable assets in different ways. It doesn't bother me if the team I have in my head has star power or not. I want effectiveness.

[lambeauleap87]

01. [1,01] Arizona Diamondbacks: Mike Trout (CF)
02. [1,02] Colorado Rockies: Miguel Cabrera (1B)
03. [1,03] Texas Rangers: Clayton Kershaw (P)
04. [1,04] Houston Astros: Giancarlo Stanton (RF)
05. [1,05] Minnesota Twins: Andrew McCutchen (CF)
06. [1,06] Boston Red Sox: Madison Bumgarner(SP)
07. [1,07] Chicago White Sox: Buster Posey (C)
08. [1,08] Chicago Cubs: Jose Altuve (2B)
09. [1,09] Philadelphia Phillies: Felix Hernandez (SP)
10. [1,10] Cincinnati Reds : Carlos gonzalez(OF)
11. [1,11] Miami Marlins: Josh Donaldson (3B)
12. [1,12] San Diego Padres: Paul Goldschmidt(1B)
13. [1,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Yasiel Puig (OF)
14. [1,14] New York Mets: Anthony Rizzo (1B)
15. [1,15] Atlanta Braves: Jose Abreu (1B)
16. [1,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Anthony Rendon (2B/3B)
17. [1,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Chris Sale(SP)
18. [1,18] New York Yankees: Troy Tulowitski (SS)
19. [1,19] Cleveland Indians: Jose Fernandez (SP)
20. [1,20] Seattle Mariners: Jason Heyward (RF)
21. [1,21] San Francisco Giants: Craig Kimbrel(RP)
22. [1,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Carlos Gomez (CF)
23. [1,23] Oakland Athletics: Sonny Gray (SP)
24. [1,24] Kansas City Royals: Eric Hosmer (1B)
25. [1,25] Detroit Tigers: Bryce Harper (OF)
26. [1,26] St. Louis Cardinals: Evan Longoria (3B)
27. [1,27] Los Angeles Dodgers: Robinson Cano (2B)
28. [1,28] Baltimore Orioles: Freddie Freeman (1B)
29. [1,29] Washington Nationals: Billy Hamilton (OF)
30. [1,30] Los Angeles Angels: Starlin Castro (SS)
31. [2,01] Los Angeles Angels: Kris Bryant (3B)
32. [2,02] Washington Nationals: Adam Jones (OF)
33. [2,03] Baltimore Orioles: Yu Darvish (SP)
34. [2,04] Los Angeles Dodgers: Stephen Strasburg (SP)
35. [2,05] St. Louis Cardinals : Adam Wainwright SP
36. [2,06] Detroit Tigers: Jon Lester (SP)
37. [2,07] Kansas City Royals: Alex Gordon (LF)
38. [2,08] Oakland Athletics: Kyle Seager (3B)
39. [2,09] Pittsburgh Pirates: Corey Kluber (SP)
40. [2,10] San Francisco Giants: Adrian Beltre (3B)
41. [2,11] Seattle Mariners: Max Scherzer (SP)
42. [2,12] Cleveland Indians: Manny Machado (3B)
43. [2,13] New York Yankees: Matt Harvey (SP)
44. [2,14] Toronto Blue Jays: David Price (SP)
45: [2,15] Milwaukee Brewers: Nolan Arenado (3B)
46: [2,16] Atlanta Braves: Masahiro Tanaka (SP)
47. [2,17] New York Mets: Jordan Zimmerman (SP)
48. [2,18] Tampa Bay Rays: Julio Teheran (SP)
49. [2,19] San Diego Padres: Johnny Cueto (SP)
50. [2,20] Miami Marlins: Edwin Encarnacion (1B)
51. [2,21] Cincinnati Red: Jacob DeGrom (SP)
52. [2,22] Philadelphia Phillies: Cole Hamels (SP)
53. [2,23] Chicago Cubs: Yordano Ventura (SP)
54. [2,24] Chicago White Sox: Zack Greinke (SP)
55. [2,25] Boston Red Sox:Justin Upton (OF)
56. [2,26] Minnesota Twins: Michael Wacha (SP)
57. [2,27] Houston Astros: Matt Kemp (OF)
58. [2,28] Texas Rangers: Michael Brantley (OF)
59. [2, 29] Colorado Rockies: Gerrit Cole (SP)
60. [2,30] Arizona Diamondbacks:Joey Votto (1B)
61. [3,1] Arizona Diamondbacks: Starling Marte (LF)
62. [3,2] Colorado Rockies: Brian Dozier (2B)
63. [3,3] Texas Rangers: Todd Frazier (3B)
64. [3,4] Houston Astros Yoenis Cespedes (OF)
65. [3,5] Minnesota Twins: Andrelton Simmons (SS)
66. [3,6] Boston Red Sox: Chris Archer (SP)
67. [3,7] Chicago White Sox: Adrian Gonzalez (1B)
68. [3,8] Chicago Cubs: Yasmany Tomas (RF)
69. [3,9] Philadelphia Phillies: Rusney Castillo (OF)
70. [3,10] Cincinnati Reds: Jose Bautista (OF)
71. [3,11] Miami Marlins: Ian Desmond (SS)
72. [3,12] San Diego Padres: Garret Richards (SP)
73. [3,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Jonathan Lucroy (C)
74. [3,14] New York Mets: Kolten Wong (2B)
75. [3,15] Atlanta Braves: Alex Wood (SP)
76. [3,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Jorge Soler (OF)
77. [3,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Andrew Cashner (SP)
78. [3,18] New York Yankees: Corey Dickerson (OF)
79. [3, 19] Cleveland Indians: George Springer (OF)

Most recent update, if anyone cares.

[jewcer2k5]

No offense to the guys who drafted them, I just think that these guys were drafted a little high but they're still solid picks:

Jose Altuve
Josh Donaldson
Jason Heyward (this one hurts to say because I'm a big fan of his)
Carlos Gomez (this is out of spite because I'd never want him on the Buccos. Just sayin' :) )
Billy Hamilton
Starlin Castro
Kris Bryant

Again, ONLY my opinion and nothing against anyone that picked them where they did.

You should also continue to put the list in the thread periodically. At least once per page if this ever gets that far.

Hamilton is a top 30 hitter with gold glove potential and super young. Shocked he fell that far.

Name another game changing lead off hitter please.

[Skipscards]

Hamilton is a top 30 hitter with gold glove potential and super young. Shocked he fell that far.

Name another game changing lead off hitter please.

Rickey Henderson

[jewcer2k5]

Rickey Henderson


Sorry. I'll be more clear. One that is currently playing

[atoaz12]

I'm in this draft and there are plenty who may think my selections make no sense - so I don't want to come across as too much of a Richard...
But some of these picks...

[SportsAutoFreak]

Just do research, check out a player. See how he fits. I picked Keuchel because he's young, can get 200 innings. Led the AL in complete games this year. I see him being next year's break out like Corey Kluber was this year. Not sure if you're implying me or mot, but a headscratcher to one person is perfectly sensical to another.

[enbambam6986]

Just do research, check out a player. See how he fits. I picked Keuchel because he's young, can get 200 innings. Led the AL in complete games this year. I see him being next year's break out like Corey Kluber was this year. Not sure if you're implying me or mot, but a headscratcher to one person is perfectly sensical to another.

What if he has his 2013 season again lol...

[atoaz12]

Just do research, check out a player. See how he fits. I picked Keuchel because he's young, can get 200 innings. Led the AL in complete games this year. I see him being next year's break out like Corey Kluber was this year. Not sure if you're implying me or mot, but a headscratcher to one person is perfectly sensical to another.

I never said any names...
Not very confident if you're assuming :D

[exitmusicblue]

Actions speak louder than words.

http://2guystalkingmetsbaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/doug-fister.jpg

[exitmusicblue]

01. [1,01] Arizona Diamondbacks: Mike Trout (CF)
02. [1,02] Colorado Rockies: Miguel Cabrera (1B)
03. [1,03] Texas Rangers: Clayton Kershaw (P)
04. [1,04] Houston Astros: Giancarlo Stanton (RF)
05. [1,05] Minnesota Twins: Andrew McCutchen (CF)
06. [1,06] Boston Red Sox: Madison Bumgarner(SP)
07. [1,07] Chicago White Sox: Buster Posey (C)
08. [1,08] Chicago Cubs: Jose Altuve (2B)
09. [1,09] Philadelphia Phillies: Felix Hernandez (SP)
10. [1,10] Cincinnati Reds : Carlos gonzalez(OF)
11. [1,11] Miami Marlins: Josh Donaldson (3B)
12. [1,12] San Diego Padres: Paul Goldschmidt(1B)
13. [1,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Yasiel Puig (OF)
14. [1,14] New York Mets: Anthony Rizzo (1B)
15. [1,15] Atlanta Braves: Jose Abreu (1B)
16. [1,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Anthony Rendon (2B/3B)
17. [1,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Chris Sale(SP)
18. [1,18] New York Yankees: Troy Tulowitski (SS)
19. [1,19] Cleveland Indians: Jose Fernandez (SP)
20. [1,20] Seattle Mariners: Jason Heyward (RF)
21. [1,21] San Francisco Giants: Craig Kimbrel(RP)
22. [1,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Carlos Gomez (CF)
23. [1,23] Oakland Athletics: Sonny Gray (SP)
24. [1,24] Kansas City Royals: Eric Hosmer (1B)
25. [1,25] Detroit Tigers: Bryce Harper (OF)
26. [1,26] St. Louis Cardinals: Evan Longoria (3B)
27. [1,27] Los Angeles Dodgers: Robinson Cano (2B)
28. [1,28] Baltimore Orioles: Freddie Freeman (1B)
29. [1,29] Washington Nationals: Billy Hamilton (OF)
30. [1,30] Los Angeles Angels: Starlin Castro (SS)
31. [2,01] Los Angeles Angels: Kris Bryant (3B)
32. [2,02] Washington Nationals: Adam Jones (OF)
33. [2,03] Baltimore Orioles: Yu Darvish (SP)
34. [2,04] Los Angeles Dodgers: Stephen Strasburg (SP)
35. [2,05] St. Louis Cardinals : Adam Wainwright SP
36. [2,06] Detroit Tigers: Jon Lester (SP)
37. [2,07] Kansas City Royals: Alex Gordon (LF)
38. [2,08] Oakland Athletics: Kyle Seager (3B)
39. [2,09] Pittsburgh Pirates: Corey Kluber (SP)
40. [2,10] San Francisco Giants: Adrian Beltre (3B)
41. [2,11] Seattle Mariners: Max Scherzer (SP)
42. [2,12] Cleveland Indians: Manny Machado (3B)
43. [2,13] New York Yankees: Matt Harvey (SP)
44. [2,14] Toronto Blue Jays: David Price (SP)
45: [2,15] Milwaukee Brewers: Nolan Arenado (3B)
46: [2,16] Atlanta Braves: Masahiro Tanaka (SP)
47. [2,17] New York Mets: Jordan Zimmerman (SP)
48. [2,18] Tampa Bay Rays: Julio Teheran (SP)
49. [2,19] San Diego Padres: Johnny Cueto (SP)
50. [2,20] Miami Marlins: Edwin Encarnacion (1B)
51. [2,21] Cincinnati Reds: Jacob DeGrom (SP)
52. [2,22] Philadelphia Phillies: Cole Hamels (SP)
53. [2,23] Chicago Cubs: Yordano Ventura (SP)
54. [2,24] Chicago White Sox: Zack Greinke (SP)
55. [2,25] Boston Red Sox:Justin Upton (OF)
56. [2,26] Minnesota Twins: Michael Wacha (SP)
57. [2,27] Houston Astros: Matt Kemp (OF)
58. [2,28] Texas Rangers: Michael Brantley (OF)
59. [2,29] Colorado Rockies: Gerrit Cole (SP)
60. [2,30] Arizona Diamondbacks:Joey Votto (1B)
61. [3,1] Arizona Diamondbacks: Starling Marte (LF)
62. [3,2] Colorado Rockies: Brian Dozier (2B)
63. [3,3] Texas Rangers: Todd Frazier (3B)
64. [3,4] Houston Astros Yoenis Cespedes (OF)
65. [3,5] Minnesota Twins: Andrelton Simmons (SS)
66. [3,6] Boston Red Sox: Chris Archer (SP)
67. [3,7] Chicago White Sox: Adrian Gonzalez (1B)
68. [3,8] Chicago Cubs: Yasmany Tomas (RF)
69. [3,9] Philadelphia Phillies: Rusney Castillo (OF)
70. [3,10] Cincinnati Reds: Jose Bautista (OF)
71. [3,11] Miami Marlins: Ian Desmond (SS)
72. [3,12] San Diego Padres: Garret Richards (SP)
73. [3,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Jonathan Lucroy (C)
74. [3,14] New York Mets: Kolten Wong (2B)
75. [3,15] Atlanta Braves: Alex Wood (SP)
76. [3,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Jorge Soler (OF)
77. [3,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Andrew Cashner (SP)
78. [3,18] New York Yankees: Corey Dickerson (OF)
79. [3,19] Cleveland Indians: George Springer (OF)
80. [3,20] Seattle Mariners : Javier Baez (SS)
81. [3,22] San Francisco Giants: Dallas Keuchel (SP)
82. [3,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Lorenzo Cain (RF)
83. [3,23] Oakland Athletics: Doug Fister (SP)

[SportsAutoFreak]

I never said any names...
Not very confident if you're assuming :D

Simply used to the scrutiny. I am confident. Just wondering if it was implication. Trying to build the best team possible and I think Keuchel can be part of that. With the high demand for pitching, I needed an ace. A chance, but one I can take.

[jewcer2k5]

I've got pick 29. How am I doing so far?

Catcher -

First Baseman -

Second Baseman - Jason Kipnis (27)

Shortstop -

Third Baseman -

Left Fielder - Jay Bruce (27)

Center Fielder - Billy Hamilton (24)

Right Fielder - Adam Jones (29)

Starter #1 -

Starter #2 -

Starter #3 -

Starter #4 -

Starter #5 -

Reliever #1 -

Reliever #2 -

Closer -

[death2redemptions]

I've got pick 29. How am I doing so far?

Catcher -

First Baseman -

Second Baseman - Jason Kipnis (27)

Shortstop -

Third Baseman -

Left Fielder - Jay Bruce (27)

Center Fielder - Billy Hamilton (24)

Right Fielder - Adam Jones (29)

Starter #1 -

Starter #2 -

Starter #3 -

Starter #4 -

Starter #5 -

Reliever #1 -

Reliever #2 -

Closer -

You've got some solid bats but the lack of pitchers could really hurt since all the aces are gone. You'll have a lot of mid rotation and end of the rotation arms. I figure B-Ham will lead off and you'll have Adam Jones hit third? Do you plan to have either Kipnis or Bruce hit cleanup? Or still working on finding someone else to take up that role?

[jewcer2k5]

You've got some solid bats but the lack of pitchers could really hurt since all the aces are gone. You'll have a lot of mid rotation and end of the rotation arms. I figure B-Ham will lead off and you'll have Adam Jones hit third? Do you plan to have either Kipnis or Bruce hit cleanup? Or still working on finding someone else to take up that role?

Right now kipnis is 2 and Bruce is cleanup.

That can change.

Lots and lots of solid arms still out there. No worries on this end for pitching.

[death2redemptions]

Right now kipnis is 2 and Bruce is cleanup.

That can change.

Lots and lots of solid arms still out there. No worries on this end for pitching.

Definitely plenty of solid pitchers out there but no aces that I'm aware of.

[jewcer2k5]

Definitely plenty of solid pitchers out there but no aces that I'm aware of.


Not many true aces in general. I don't consider a lot of the guys taken in the 3rd round aces either.

[death2redemptions]

Not many true aces in general. I don't consider a lot of the guys taken in the 3rd round aces either.

Legit aces are very rare, I'll use the term frontline starter (a pitcher good enough to serve as a team's #1) instead. Not many left, although there might be some hidden gems I am unaware of.

[jewcer2k5]

Legit aces are very rare, I'll use the term frontline starter (a pitcher good enough to serve as a team's #1) instead. Not many left, although there might be some hidden gems I am unaware of.

I'll tell you there are pitchers that I like a lot more than dudes like Keuchel and Archer. Now I don't know if they will last but I'm willing to take the risk.

A lot harder to find an all star 2b and a legit cleanup hitter IMO.

[death2redemptions]

I'll tell you there are pitchers that I like a lot more than dudes like Keuchel and Archer. Now I don't know if they will last but I'm willing to take the risk.

A lot harder to find an all star 2b and a legit cleanup hitter IMO.

Finding a legit All-Star 2B is definitely not easy...I've got a plan for that myself but that is as much as I will say.

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I've been alternating pitchers-hitters on purpose. There are a few gems left, yes, but virtually all come with some kind of question mark (e.g. appears to be in decline, only had a partial season thus can't trust stats, etc.)

[death2redemptions]

I've been alternating pitchers-hitters on purpose. There are a few gems left, yes, but virtually all come with some kind of question mark (e.g. appears to be in decline, only had a partial season thus can't trust stats, etc.)

I try my hardest to alter from hitter to pitcher but I've already picked two pitchers in a row but I only did that because I really wanted Alex Wood and had a feeling other people had him on their radar (turns out I was right) so I'm not sure if I will pick two hitters in a row now I messed up my plan or just go with one and then back to pitcher. I sure hope nobody takes the guy on the top of my list yet...I think he could end up being a steal.

[Bosox34]

I'll tell you there are pitchers that I like a lot more than dudes like Keuchel and Archer. Now I don't know if they will last but I'm willing to take the risk.

A lot harder to find an all star 2b and a legit cleanup hitter IMO.

I agree with this sentiment but Archer is a young pitcher that could become even greater with more experience. The kid has explosive stuff

[jewcer2k5]

I agree with this sentiment but Archer is a young pitcher that could become even greater with more experience. The kid has explosive stuff


He COULD but kipnis has proven he is an all star at a thin position.

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Going for a name with tons of publicity next...

[mainerunr]

I've got pick 29. How am I doing so far?

Catcher -

First Baseman -

Second Baseman - Jason Kipnis (27)

Shortstop -

Third Baseman -

Left Fielder - Jay Bruce (27)

Center Fielder - Billy Hamilton (24)

Right Fielder - Adam Jones (29)

Starter #1 -

Starter #2 -

Starter #3 -

Starter #4 -

Starter #5 -

Reliever #1 -

Reliever #2 -

Closer -

You took Hamilton too soon, his bat is weak and that reduces the impact his speed could have offensively. He just does not get on base enough, a .250 avg and .292 obp are too low for a leadoff hitter. Maybe his bat develops but right now, it is horrible.

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My guess is the draft will end some time around early December. Thanks again to Thommy for the fun ride !

[Bosox34]

He COULD but kipnis has proven he is an all star at a thin position.

I liked Kipnis but my strategy has me going a different route. He may not be the most popular name, but he's got a ton of upside

[Bosox34]

I've got pick 29. How am I doing so far?

Catcher -

First Baseman -

Second Baseman - Jason Kipnis (27)

Shortstop -

Third Baseman -

Left Fielder - Jay Bruce (27)

Center Fielder - Billy Hamilton (24)

Right Fielder - Adam Jones (29)

Starter #1 -

Starter #2 -

Starter #3 -

Starter #4 -

Starter #5 -

Reliever #1 -

Reliever #2 -

Closer -




I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on Kipnis, just saying there's other value there to be found but yeah finding a quality 2B is tough. Liked the Hamilton pick because every team needs the guy who can steal bases at the top of the lineup and Jones and Bruce are both outfielders with plus power and the ability to change games

[jewcer2k5]

You took Hamilton too soon, his bat is weak and that reduces the impact his speed could have offensively. He just does not get on base enough, a .250 avg and .292 obp are too low for a leadoff hitter. Maybe his bat develops but right now, it is horrible.

Hamilton too soon? Seriously? Dude is a GAME CHANGER.

He had a low OBP but also put the ball in play a bunch. He needs his k rate to decline which I expect it to as he plays in the majors longer like most players. His BB rate of 5.6% should increase to about 7 or 8% as his minor league numbers suggest would get him on base more. If he has an OBP near 330 he will be a MONSTER.

Even with a .292 OBP he had a RAR of 32.3 which is Top 50. Jose Altuve is a similiar player who had MUCH worse numbers his first few years and finally developed to have stronger numbers than that this year. He went #8 overall. Hamilton developed in the minors while Altuve developed in the majors. Next year and beyond I'd expect his OBP to bump up and since he has the best speed and great base running skills I'd expect the rest of the numbers to bump also.

On top of that I wanted a game changer and there is no way he was making it 60 more picks back to me.

[jewcer2k5]

I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on Kipnis, just saying there's other value there to be found but yeah finding a quality 2B is tough. Liked the Hamilton pick because every team needs the guy who can steal bases at the top of the lineup and Jones and Bruce are both outfielders with plus power and the ability to change games

I dont mind people hating my picks. I have a specific strategy I am putting together and it is my only chance to be successful with where I am picking.

[Bosox34]

I dont mind people hating my picks. I have a specific strategy I am putting together and it is my only chance to be successful with where I am picking.

Completely agree and considering you are pick 29 you have put together a nice quality team. I'm interested in seeing your team when it's finished because I have a feeling you have some tricks up your sleeve lol

[SportsAutoFreak]

I guess some aren't sold on Keuchel. So be it.

[jewcer2k5]

I guess some aren't sold on Keuchel. So be it.

Nothing against him but you don't think he would've made it back in the 4th or 5th round???

[SportsAutoFreak]

With the way pitching has gone, the high demand for it and how some have been taken early, I know I needed an ace and he's the one I wanted to tap to fill that role.

[jewcer2k5]

With the way pitching has gone, the high demand for it and how some have been taken early, I know I needed an ace and he's the one I wanted to tap to fill that role.

Gotcha. I see him as a 3 at best so I guess that's the difference.

[ageofreason13]

Hamilton too soon? Seriously? Dude is a GAME CHANGER.

He had a low OBP but also put the ball in play a bunch. He needs his k rate to decline which I expect it to as he plays in the majors longer like most players. His BB rate of 5.6% should increase to about 7 or 8% as his minor league numbers suggest would get him on base more. If he has an OBP near 330 he will be a MONSTER.

Even with a .292 OBP he had a RAR of 32.3 which is Top 50. Jose Altuve is a similiar player who had MUCH worse numbers his first few years and finally developed to have stronger numbers than that this year. He went #8 overall. Hamilton developed in the minors while Altuve developed in the majors. Next year and beyond I'd expect his OBP to bump up and since he has the best speed and great base running skills I'd expect the rest of the numbers to bump also.

On top of that I wanted a game changer and there is no way he was making it 60 more picks back to me.

Altuve and Hamilton were both reaches for the 1st round. I like the Hamilton pick better than the Altuve, because you got Adam Jones in the 2nd round. I personally would have ranked Jones higher than either of them. I just am not convinced Hamilton will be anything more than what he has shown. He has game changing speed, but that is about it. You'll be able to get other speed guys later in the draft and I just don't see a big gap between Hamilton and them.

[jewcer2k5]

Altuve and Hamilton were both reaches for the 1st round. I like the Hamilton pick better than the Altuve, because you got Adam Jones in the 2nd round. I personally would have ranked Jones higher than either of them. I just am not convinced Hamilton will be anything more than what he has shown. He has game changing speed, but that is about it. You'll be able to get other speed guys later in the draft and I just don't see a big gap between Hamilton and them.


I had Jones ranked higher but thought he had a better chance of making it to the 2nd round.

[ageofreason13]

I'd like the Hamilton pick more if others weren't reaching on starting pitchers. If you are drafting the best available player then you are going to get left with a bunch of 3rd starter types as your ace...

[ageofreason13]

I had Jones ranked higher but thought he had a better chance of making it to the 2nd round.

I'll concede that. Hamilton is a guy that I am sure others coveted so he wouldn't have been around for your 3rd pick. If you wanted him you had to get him then because he is a top 75 guy on most boards.

[jewcer2k5]

I'd like the Hamilton pick more if others weren't reaching on starting pitchers. If you are drafting the best available player then you are going to get left with a bunch of 3rd starter types as your ace...

Multiple pitchers left that Im happy with taking. Pitching is super deep. Look at all the names taken already. How many were FA after your draft last year??? Most injury prone and least predictable position in baseball.

[jewcer2k5]

I'll concede that. Hamilton is a guy that I am sure others coveted so he wouldn't have been around for your 3rd pick. If you wanted him you had to get him then because he is a top 75 guy on most boards.

Mid round strategy is much different than at either end. I gotta take people I want. I considered Bruce in round 2 for all the reasons I mentioned earlier. I believe bats are much more predictable and law of averages says he just had an unlucky down year. When I get home I'll do the numbers on if his BABIP matched his career average.

Since he was around in round 3 I had to take him. I feel like a lot of bats will go in 4/5 bc a lot of arms went already and lineups need to start getting filled. I have about 5-8 arms I like a lot so at least 1 will still be there for me as a staff ace and possible 2.

[enbambam6986]

Mid round strategy is much different than at either end. I gotta take people I want. I considered Bruce in round 2 for all the reasons I mentioned earlier. I believe bats are much more predictable and law of averages says he just had an unlucky down year. When I get home I'll do the numbers on if his BABIP matched his career average.



Maybe Jay Bruce performs better when Votto is in the lineup..Maybe this year we saw the real Jay Bruce

[jewcer2k5]

Maybe Jay Bruce performs better when Votto is in the lineup..Maybe this year we saw the real Jay Bruce


I'd say the 3 previous years with the same stats and the same BABIP, k/bb, fb/hr ratio, and bb/fb rate are more telling of his bat than the one down year at 26/27 years old while dealing with nagging injuries.

Votto hits in front of him so not sure that was the problem.

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01. [1,01] Arizona Diamondbacks: Mike Trout (CF)
02. [1,02] Colorado Rockies: Miguel Cabrera (1B)
03. [1,03] Texas Rangers: Clayton Kershaw (P)
04. [1,04] Houston Astros: Giancarlo Stanton (RF)
05. [1,05] Minnesota Twins: Andrew McCutchen (CF)
06. [1,06] Boston Red Sox: Madison Bumgarner(SP)
07. [1,07] Chicago White Sox: Buster Posey (C)
08. [1,08] Chicago Cubs: Jose Altuve (2B)
09. [1,09] Philadelphia Phillies: Felix Hernandez (SP)
10. [1,10] Cincinnati Reds : Carlos gonzalez(OF)
11. [1,11] Miami Marlins: Josh Donaldson (3B)
12. [1,12] San Diego Padres: Paul Goldschmidt(1B)
13. [1,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Yasiel Puig (OF)
14. [1,14] New York Mets: Anthony Rizzo (1B)
15. [1,15] Atlanta Braves: Jose Abreu (1B)
16. [1,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Anthony Rendon (2B/3B)
17. [1,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Chris Sale(SP)
18. [1,18] New York Yankees: Troy Tulowitski (SS)
19. [1,19] Cleveland Indians: Jose Fernandez (SP)
20. [1,20] Seattle Mariners: Jason Heyward (RF)
21. [1,21] San Francisco Giants: Craig Kimbrel(RP)
22. [1,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Carlos Gomez (CF)
23. [1,23] Oakland Athletics: Sonny Gray (SP)
24. [1,24] Kansas City Royals: Eric Hosmer (1B)
25. [1,25] Detroit Tigers: Bryce Harper (OF)
26. [1,26] St. Louis Cardinals: Evan Longoria (3B)
27. [1,27] Los Angeles Dodgers: Robinson Cano (2B)
28. [1,28] Baltimore Orioles: Freddie Freeman (1B)
29. [1,29] Washington Nationals: Billy Hamilton (OF)
30. [1,30] Los Angeles Angels: Starlin Castro (SS)
31. [2,01] Angels: Kris Bryant (3B)
32. [2,02] Washington Nationals: Adam Jones (OF)
33. [2,03] Baltimore Orioles: Yu Darvish (SP)
34. [2,04] Los Angeles Dodgers: Stephen Strasburg (SP)
35. [2,05] St. Louis Cardinals : Adam Wainwright SP
36. [2,06] Detroit Tigers: Jon Lester (SP)
37. [2,07] Kansas City Royals: Alex Gordon (LF)
38. [2,08] Oakland Athletics: Kyle Seager (3B)
39. [2,09] Pittsburgh Pirates: Corey Kluber (SP)
40. [2,10] San Francisco Giants: Adrian Beltre (3B)
41. [2,11] Seattle Mariners: Max Scherzer (SP)
42. [2,12] Cleveland Indians: Manny Machado (3B)
43. [2,13] New York Yankees: Matt Harvey (SP)
44. [2,14] Toronto Blue Jays: David Price (SP)
45: [2,15] Milwaukee Brewers: Nolan Arenado (3B)
46: [2,16] Atlanta Braves: Masahiro Tanaka (SP)
47. [2,17] New York Mets: Jordan Zimmerman (SP)
48. [2,18] Tampa Bay Rays: Julio Teheran (SP)
49. [2,19] San Diego Padres: Johnny Cueto (SP)
50. [2,20] Miami Marlins: Edwin Encarnacion (1B)
51. [2,21] Cincinnati Red: Jacob DeGrom (SP)
52. [2,22] Philadelphia Phillies: Cole Hamels (SP)
53. [2,23] Chicago Cubs: Yordano Ventura (SP)
54. [2,24] Chicago White Sox: Zack Greinke (SP)
55. [2,25] Boston Red Sox:Justin Upton (OF)
56. [2,26] Minnesota Twins: Michael Wacha (SP)
57. [2,27] Houston Astros: Matt Kemp (OF)
58. [2,28] Texas Rangers: Michael Brantley (OF)
59. [2,29] Colorado Rockies: Gerrit Cole (SP)
60. [2,30] Arizona Diamondbacks: Joey Votto (1B)
61. [3,1] Arizona Diamondbacks: Starling Marte (LF)
62. [3,2] Colorado Rockies: Brian Dozier (2B)
63. [3,3] Texas Rangers: Todd Frazier (3B)
64. [3,4] Houston Astros Yoenis Cespedes (OF)
65. [3,5] Minnesota Twins: Andrelton Simmons (SS)
66. [3,6] Boston Red Sox: Chris Archer (SP)
67. [3,7] Chicago White Sox: Adrian Gonzalez (1B)
68. [3,8] Chicago Cubs: Yasmany Tomas (RF)
69. [3,9] Philadelphia Phillies: Rusney Castillo (OF)
70. [3,10] Cincinnati Reds: Jose Bautista (OF)
71. [3,11] Miami Marlins: Ian Desmond (SS)
72. [3,12] San Diego Padres: Garret Richards (SP)
73. [3,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Jonathan Lucroy (C)
74. [3,14] New York Mets: Kolten Wong (2B)
75. [3,15] Atlanta Braves: Alex Wood (SP)
76. [3,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Jorge Soler (OF)
77. [3,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Andrew Cashner (SP)
78. [3,18] New York Yankees: Corey Dickerson (OF)
79. [3,19] Cleveland Indians: George Springer (OF)
80. [3,20] Seattle Mariners : Javier Baez (SS)
81. [3,21] San Francisco Giants: Dallas Keuchel (SP)
82. [3,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Lorenzo Cain (RF)
83. [3,23] Oakland Athletics: Doug Fister (SP)
84. [3,24] Kansas City Royals: Joc Pederson (OF)
85. [3,25] Detroit Tigers: Matt Carpenter (3B)
86. [3,26] St. Louis Cardinals Devin Mesoraco (C)
87. [3,27] LA Dodgers: Zack Wheeler (RHP)
88. [3,28] Baltimore Orioles: Christian Yelich (OF)
89. [3,29] Washington Nationals, Jay Bruce (OF)
90. [3,30] Los Angeles Angels: Hyun Jin Ryu (SP)
91. [4,1] Los Angels Angels: Pablo Sandoval (3B/1B/DH)
92. [4,2] Washington Nationals: Jason Kipnis (2B)
93. [4,3] Baltimore Orioles: Shelby Miller (SP)
94. [4,4] LA Dodgers: Dee Gordon (SS)
95. [4,5] St. Louis Cardinals: Matt Adams (1B)
96. [4,6] Detroit Tigers: Alex Cobb (SP)
97. [4,7] Kansas City Royals: Danny Duffy (SP)
98. [4,8] Oakland Athletics: Jacoby Ellsbury (OF)
99. [4,9] Pittsburgh Pirates: Yadier Molina (C)
100. [4,10] San Francisco Giants: Ben Revere (CF)
101. [4,11] Seattle Mariners: Denard Span (CF)
102. [4,12] Cleveland Indians: Phil Hughes (SP)
103. [4,13] New York Yankees: Byron Buxton (OF)

[death2redemptions]

Are we there yet?

[SportsAutoFreak]

Really liking the way my team is shaping up so far. It'll have to without some I wanted, but that's okay.

[Bhenry4]

Really liking the way my team is shaping up so far. It'll have to without some I wanted, but that's okay.

With some decent upcoming picks, they might be able to compete with my beer league softball team.

[death2redemptions]

So far every time I've put a guy on my next pick radar nobody has stolen him yet...very pleased with that. I'm still deciding who I really want next.

[Bosox34]

So far every time I've put a guy on my next pick radar nobody has stolen him yet...very pleased with that. I'm still deciding who I really want next.

Only 2 guys have been picked off of my want list the whole draft so I'm with you

[jewcer2k5]

Some really awful picks. Taking guys like buxton immediately eliminate you from contention the next year and possibly 2. At least they should because he won't even be up until 2016 the earliest.

[death2redemptions]

Some really awful picks. Taking guys like buxton immediately eliminate you from contention the next year and possibly 2. At least they should because he won't even be up until 2016 the earliest.

If I'm going to pick up a prospect he will have to be in AAA already. Somebody who will be ready to play in 2015. I wouldn't have taken Buxton either because it leaves a hole in your lineup until the second half of 2016 (at the earliest).

[exitmusicblue]

We're actually playing under the assumption that everyone is on the field, ready or even retired or not.

[exitmusicblue]

...so if someone picks a heralded A or AA prospect, it's like throwing him into the fire (MLB action) beginning the 2015 season. Sooner or later some drafters may need to take that chance...

[chansen10]

i'm quite surprised how some people haven't taken a pitcher. You need at least one front of the line starter if your going to compete... Having a bunch of #3's in your rotation wont do much good no matter how good your lineup is

[xbignick]

Have at least five people on my list I'm hoping fall. Don't even want to go pitcher if they do, but there are some pitchers still off the board I really like.

[Bosox34]

Have at least five people on my list I'm hoping fall. Don't even want to go pitcher if they do, but there are some pitchers still off the board I really like.

I have a list of players I want each time around so hopefully my top option is available. Was afraid he was gonna go earlier this round when I saw someone eying him

[sportscardbreak]

I'm curious as to why Altuve was such a reach. He may have been picked a bit early but he's a fantastic hitter and a solid glove at an extremely shallow position. My plan was to draft a bunch of sub-26 y/o's, and I saw him as a better selection then say, a Cargo, Tulo, Abreu, etc. Honestly, I think power is severely overrated. If I could go back I'd probably have taken Goldy or Puig, but I think the consistency that Altuve has plus his age really make him a solid selection. If he wasn't an Astro he'd be a helluva lot more popular and a top MVP candidate.

[Twinsfan33]

I'm curious as to why Altuve was such a reach. He may have been picked a bit early but he's a fantastic hitter and a solid glove at an extremely shallow position. My plan was to draft a bunch of sub-26 y/o's, and I saw him as a better selection then say, a Cargo, Tulo, Abreu, etc. Honestly, I think power is severely overrated. If I could go back I'd probably have taken Goldy or Puig, but I think the consistency that Altuve has plus his age really make him a solid selection. If he wasn't an Astro he'd be a helluva lot more popular and a top MVP candidate.

Oh my friend Goldy wouldn't of been there when you picked because I would've taken him at 6:)

[sportscardbreak]

never mind

[death2redemptions]

I'm curious as to why Altuve was such a reach. He may have been picked a bit early but he's a fantastic hitter and a solid glove at an extremely shallow position. My plan was to draft a bunch of sub-26 y/o's, and I saw him as a better selection then say, a Cargo, Tulo, Abreu, etc. Honestly, I think power is severely overrated. If I could go back I'd probably have taken Goldy or Puig, but I think the consistency that Altuve has plus his age really make him a solid selection. If he wasn't an Astro he'd be a helluva lot more popular and a top MVP candidate.

There is no arguing that he is a very valuable player...he led the league in batting average, hits and stolen bases...I wasn't even all that surprised that he was a first round pick...I was mostly surprised to see him finish so high in the first round. I thought he would have ended somewhere between the 20th-30th overall pick.

[chansen10]

I'm curious as to why Altuve was such a reach. He may have been picked a bit early but he's a fantastic hitter and a solid glove at an extremely shallow position. My plan was to draft a bunch of sub-26 y/o's, and I saw him as a better selection then say, a Cargo, Tulo, Abreu, etc. Honestly, I think power is severely overrated. If I could go back I'd probably have taken Goldy or Puig, but I think the consistency that Altuve has plus his age really make him a solid selection. If he wasn't an Astro he'd be a helluva lot more popular and a top MVP candidate.

I agree i like him better than Cargo Tulo and a fewer other picks. He's still very young and if he ends up putting up these numbers for the next few years than hell end up being a great pick. For me I thought he was more of a player taken in the range of 15-25, but it's definitely not a bad pick. Especially since 2B is a very weak position

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I literally have a shortlist of 16 names, with top 4 ordered by priority.. am ready for the zombie apocalypse :cool:

[death2redemptions]

I literally have a shortlist of 16 names, with top 4 ordered by priority.. am ready for the zombie apocalypse :cool:

I have a feeling you are going to pick the player I want next...call it a hunch.

[exitmusicblue]

I have a feeling you are going to pick the player I want next...call it a hunch.

But you're going before me, so no worries :p

[jewcer2k5]

Instead of quoting all this stuff about altuve I'll just say. If he wanted him and was picking 7 or 8 or wherever and he projected him to go in the first or second round what choice did he have? No way he made it back to him. Sometimes, especially in larger drafts with no option to trade back you just have to take the guy on top of your board. If we did this with trading of picks allowed it would be much different IMO.

[death2redemptions]

But you're going before me, so no worries :p

Will I be?

Well since that last comment I decided to make a comprehensive list of players whom I'd like on my team with the extra time I had due to NOBODY making any picks. So my decision has changed...but he could still be on your list, as if it would matter, since I guess I'm up before you lol

[exitmusicblue]

Will I be?

Well since that last comment I decided to make a comprehensive list of players whom I'd like on my team with the extra time I had due to NOBODY making any picks. So my decision has changed...but he could still be on your list, as if it would matter, since I guess I'm up before you lol

Hahaha... man, it's the ice ages now. I can only imagine your frustration since I've basically evacuated my mind for now, as my last pick wasn't long ago

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01. [1,01] Arizona Diamondbacks: Mike Trout (CF)
02. [1,02] Colorado Rockies: Miguel Cabrera (1B)
03. [1,03] Texas Rangers: Clayton Kershaw (P)
04. [1,04] Houston Astros: Giancarlo Stanton (RF)
05. [1,05] Minnesota Twins: Andrew McCutchen (CF)
06. [1,06] Boston Red Sox: Madison Bumgarner(SP)
07. [1,07] Chicago White Sox: Buster Posey (C)
08. [1,08] Chicago Cubs: Jose Altuve (2B)
09. [1,09] Philadelphia Phillies: Felix Hernandez (SP)
10. [1,10] Cincinnati Reds : Carlos gonzalez(OF)
11. [1,11] Miami Marlins: Josh Donaldson (3B)
12. [1,12] San Diego Padres: Paul Goldschmidt(1B)
13. [1,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Yasiel Puig (OF)
14. [1,14] New York Mets: Anthony Rizzo (1B)
15. [1,15] Atlanta Braves: Jose Abreu (1B)
16. [1,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Anthony Rendon (2B/3B)
17. [1,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Chris Sale(SP)
18. [1,18] New York Yankees: Troy Tulowitski (SS)
19. [1,19] Cleveland Indians: Jose Fernandez (SP)
20. [1,20] Seattle Mariners: Jason Heyward (RF)
21. [1,21] San Francisco Giants: Craig Kimbrel(RP)
22. [1,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Carlos Gomez (CF)
23. [1,23] Oakland Athletics: Sonny Gray (SP)
24. [1,24] Kansas City Royals: Eric Hosmer (1B)
25. [1,25] Detroit Tigers: Bryce Harper (OF)
26. [1,26] St. Louis Cardinals: Evan Longoria (3B)
27. [1,27] Los Angeles Dodgers: Robinson Cano (2B)
28. [1,28] Baltimore Orioles: Freddie Freeman (1B)
29. [1,29] Washington Nationals: Billy Hamilton (OF)
30. [1,30] Los Angeles Angels: Starlin Castro (SS)
31. [2,01] Angels: Kris Bryant (3B)
32. [2,02] Washington Nationals: Adam Jones (OF)
33. [2,03] Baltimore Orioles: Yu Darvish (SP)
34. [2,04] Los Angeles Dodgers: Stephen Strasburg (SP)
35. [2,05] St. Louis Cardinals : Adam Wainwright SP
36. [2,06] Detroit Tigers: Jon Lester (SP)
37. [2,07] Kansas City Royals: Alex Gordon (LF)
38. [2,08] Oakland Athletics: Kyle Seager (3B)
39. [2,09] Pittsburgh Pirates: Corey Kluber (SP)
40. [2,10] San Francisco Giants: Adrian Beltre (3B)
41. [2,11] Seattle Mariners: Max Scherzer (SP)
42. [2,12] Cleveland Indians: Manny Machado (3B)
43. [2,13] New York Yankees: Matt Harvey (SP)
44. [2,14] Toronto Blue Jays: David Price (SP)
45: [2,15] Milwaukee Brewers: Nolan Arenado (3B)
46: [2,16] Atlanta Braves: Masahiro Tanaka (SP)
47. [2,17] New York Mets: Jordan Zimmerman (SP)
48. [2,18] Tampa Bay Rays: Julio Teheran (SP)
49. [2,19] San Diego Padres: Johnny Cueto (SP)
50. [2,20] Miami Marlins: Edwin Encarnacion (1B)
51. [2,21] Cincinnati Red: Jacob DeGrom (SP)
52. [2,22] Philadelphia Phillies: Cole Hamels (SP)
53. [2,23] Chicago Cubs: Yordano Ventura (SP)
54. [2,24] Chicago White Sox: Zack Greinke (SP)
55. [2,25] Boston Red Sox:Justin Upton (OF)
56. [2,26] Minnesota Twins: Michael Wacha (SP)
57. [2,27] Houston Astros: Matt Kemp (OF)
58. [2,28] Texas Rangers: Michael Brantley (OF)
59. [2, 29] Colorado Rockies: Gerrit Cole (SP)
60. [2,30] Arizona Diamondbacks: Joey Votto (1B)
61. [3,1] Arizona Diamondbacks: Starling Marte (LF)
62. [3,2] Colorado Rockies: Brian Dozier (2B)
63. [3,3] Texas Rangers: Todd Frazier (3B)
64. [3,4] Houston Astros Yoenis Cespedes (OF)
65. [3,5] Minnesota Twins: Andrelton Simmons (SS)
66. [3,6] Boston Red Sox: Chris Archer (SP)
67. [3,7] Chicago White Sox: Adrian Gonzalez (1B)
68. [3,8] Chicago Cubs: Yasmany Tomas (RF)
69. [3,9] Philadelphia Phillies: Rusney Castillo (OF)
70. [3,10] Cincinnati Reds: Jose Bautista (OF)
71. [3,11] Miami Marlins: Ian Desmond (SS)
72. [3,12] San Diego Padres: Garret Richards (SP)
73. [3,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Jonathan Lucroy (C)
74. [3,14] New York Mets: Kolten Wong (2B)
75. [3,15] Atlanta Braves: Alex Wood (SP)
76. [3,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Jorge Soler (OF)
77. [3,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Andrew Cashner (SP)
78. [3,18] New York Yankees: Corey Dickerson (OF)
79. [3,19] Cleveland Indians: George Springer (OF)
80. [3, 20] Seattle Mariners : Javier Baez (SS)
81. [3, 22] San Francisco Giants: Dallas Keuchel (SP)
82. [3,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Lorenzo Cain (RF)
83. [3,23] Oakland Athletics: Doug Fister (SP)
84. [3,24] Kansas City Royals: Joc Pederson (OF)
85. [3,25] Detroit Tigers: Matt Carpenter (3B)
86. [3,26] St. Louis Cardinals Devin Mesoraco (C)
87. [3,27] LA Dodgers: Zack Wheeler (RHP)
88. [3,28] Baltimore Orioles: Christian Yelich (OF)
89. [3,29] Washington Nationals, Jay Bruce (OF)
90. [3,30] Los Angeles Angels: Hyun Jin Ryu (SP)
91. [4,1] Los Angels Angels: Pablo Sandoval (3B/1B/DH)
92. [4,2] Washington Nationals: Jason Kipnis (2B)
93. [4,3] Baltimore Orioles: Shelby Miller (SP)
94. [4,4] LA Dodgers: Dee Gordon (SS)
95. [4,5] St. Louis Cardinals: Matt Adams (1B)
96. [4,6] Detroit Tigers: Alex Cobb (SP)
97. [4,7] Kansas City Royals: Danny Duffy (SP)
98. [4,8] Oakland Athletics: Jacoby Ellsbury (OF)
99. [4,9] Pittsburgh Pirates: Yadier Molina (C)
100. [4,10] San Francisco Giants: Ben Revere (CF)
101. [4,11] Seattle Mariners: Denard Span (CF)
102. [4,12] Cleveland Indians: Phil Hughes (SP)
103. [4,13] New York Yankees: Byron Buxton (OF)
104. [4,14] Toronto Blue Jays: Yan Gomes (C)
105. [4,15] Milwaukee Brewers: Jeff Samardzija (SP)
106. [4,16] Atlanta Braves: Mookie Betts (2B)
107. [4,17] New York Mets: Xander Bogaerts (SS)
108. [4,18] Tampa Bay Rays: Addison Russell (SS)
109. [4,19] San Diego Padres: Salvador Perez (C)
110. [4,20] Miami Marlins: Lucas Giolito (SP)
111. [4,21] Cincinnati Reds: Adam Eaton (CF)
112. [4,22] Philadelphia Phillies: Carlos Correa
113. [4,23] Chicago Cubs: Henderson Alvarez (SP)
114. [4,24] Chicago White Sox: J.D. Martinez (LF)
115. [4,25] Boston Red Sox: Gio Gonzalez (SP)

[Bosox34]

Steal of the draft is Gio Gonzalez lol. People picked guys like Giolito over a proven ace in Gio Gonzalez

[jewcer2k5]

Steal of the draft is Gio Gonzalez lol. People picked guys like Giolito over a proven ace in Gio Gonzalez

He was one of the few I was hoping would make it back to me in 5

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Gio is good but has been trending downwards since 2012. I had a couple pitchers (still in play) lined up before him.

[enbambam6986]

Not a fan of Gio at all...

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Not a fan of Gio at all...

Right after his 2012 season, he would've been picked a lot earlier. Not so much now...

[enbambam6986]

Right after his 2012 season, he would've been picked a lot earlier. Not so much now...

Yea he's really not that good

[Bosox34]

Right after his 2012 season, he would've been picked a lot earlier. Not so much now...

Both of those were years in the NL and were injury plagued. In the AL, he was a very dominant pitcher and he was fully healthy. I would rather have him then guys like Giolito

[enbambam6986]

Both of those were years in the NL and were injury plagued. In the AL, he was a very dominant pitcher and he was fully healthy. I would rather have him then guys like Giolito

Or none of the above lol. Wouldn't have drafted Phil Hughes either, personally.

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Or none of the above lol. Wouldn't have drafted Phil Hughes either, personally.

This, agreed...

[death2redemptions]

Gio is good but has been trending downwards since 2012. I had a couple pitchers (still in play) lined up before him.

Yeah Gio was good for a fourth round pick but not as much of a steal as I originally thought. He wasn't on my radar but I've got a few pitchers on my list who I'd definitely take over Gio.

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Yeah Gio was good for a fourth round pick but not as much of a steal as I originally thought. He wasn't on my radar but I've got a few pitchers on my list who I'd definitely take over Gio.

You above all concern me in this draft game, my perverse friend... :devil:

[Bosox34]

Not a fan of Gio at all...

I'm ok with the hate. When you see the final picture of my team though, it should be a lot clearer as to why I chose him

[jewcer2k5]

I love how people shred picks of guys that had down years like Gio and pick guys that had career years and expect them to repeat or improve it.

Look at the "luck" stats and realize there is the law of averages. Those dudes just won't do it again. And the guys with off years will more than likely bounce back (assuming they had multiple seasons of proven success). Imagine this was 2 or 3 years ago. Players that you easily would've taken who are still around their prime are out there but you're reaching for a dude that blew any past performance out of the water with no major change to key indicators.

Well whatever it will help me out. :-)

[enbambam6986]

I have no clue what your trying to say lol, sounds like a Jay Bruce campaign. Why haven't you drafted headely yet if 2 or 3 years ago are your criteria or even Mariano?

[Skipscards]

I have no clue what your trying to say lol, sounds like a Jay Bruce campaign. Why haven't you drafted headely yet if 2 or 3 years ago are your criteria or even Mariano?

Hey! Shh...I've been eyeing Mariano. Geesh.

[jewcer2k5]

No "campaign" for anyone. Gio going after guys like Dallas Keuchel, giolito, and a bunch of other arms is hilarious.

Buxton and Correa who are both injured minor leaguers being picked before some all stars. Dudes may NEVER play a major league game!

There are a lot more lastings milledge and Fernando Martinez and Jackie Bradley jr's than there are perennial all star "top prospects".

No way you could honestly predict teams with these dudes (especially hurt ones) to win World Series rings. In a perfect world, of course they are everything you think they will be. We don't live in that world.

[Bosox34]

I have no clue what your trying to say lol, sounds like a Jay Bruce campaign. Why haven't you drafted headely yet if 2 or 3 years ago are your criteria or even Mariano?

I agree there may be some pitchers available better then Gio. But he IMO is one of the best lefties available who can provide a veteran presence to my young staff as Bumgarner is 25 and Archer is 26 so a guy that is 29 like Gio can really help my staff mature. This guy is a dominant pitcher when healthy and in the AL east hes even better. I dont see a decline when looking at his stats. How can a guy at 29 decline? He hasnt even hit his prime. I see a good size drop off, but thats what comeback players are for. Guy couldve been a 1st round pick had he had that 2012 campaign. But unfortunately his move to the NL and injuries allowed him to have a disappointing year. He may not appear to be a steal yet but you will see how in this 7 year span, he will do ALOT better then these past 2 years

[Skipscards]

I agree there may be some pitchers available better then Gio. But he IMO is one of the best lefties available who can provide a veteran presence to my young staff as Bumgarner is 25 and Archer is 26 so a guy that is 29 like Gio can really help my staff mature. This guy is a dominant pitcher when healthy and in the AL east hes even better. I dont see a decline when looking at his stats. How can a guy at 29 decline? He hasnt even hit his prime. I see a good size drop off, but thats what comeback players are for. Guy couldve been a 1st round pick had he had that 2012 campaign. But unfortunately his move to the NL and injuries allowed him to have a disappointing year. He may not appear to be a steal yet but you will see how in this 6 year span, he will do ALOT better then these past 2 years

7. It's 7 years.

[Bosox34]

7. It's 7 years.

Sorry forgot to edit that lol. Made this post before the other

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Sorry forgot to edit that lol. Made this post before the other

Lol...it's ok. I'm just busting your chops. Counting isn't something I'd expect from a Red Sox fan anyway. ;-)

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I agree there may be some pitchers available better then Gio. But he IMO is one of the best lefties available who can provide a veteran presence to my young staff as Bumgarner is 25 and Archer is 26 so a guy that is 29 like Gio can really help my staff mature. This guy is a dominant pitcher when healthy and in the AL east hes even better. I dont see a decline when looking at his stats. How can a guy at 29 decline? He hasnt even hit his prime. I see a good size drop off, but thats what comeback players are for. Guy couldve been a 1st round pick had he had that 2012 campaign. But unfortunately his move to the NL and injuries allowed him to have a disappointing year. He may not appear to be a steal yet but you will see how in this 7 year span, he will do ALOT better then these past 2 years

He's not a terrible pick by any means. Some of us just felt the need to cut things down to size when you were chortling about him being "the steal of the draft." :D be wary of our murderers row lol

[Bosox34]

He's not a terrible pick by any means. Some of us just felt the need to cut things down to size when you were chortling about him being "the steal of the draft." :D be wary of our murderers row lol

Yeah I may have overshot by saying he's a steal. I think he's a good deal but when he actually performs and puts up a dominant campaign, then he'll prove himself as to whether he's a steal or not

[chansen10]

Gio is good but has been trending downwards since 2012. I had a couple pitchers (still in play) lined up before him.

I was going to say the same thing. While some may think Gio is a steal I actually think hes going to start trending down. This is a guy whose only pitched 200IP twice. He doesn't go pas the 6th which is always a concern

[Bosox34]

I was going to say the same thing. While some may think Gio is a steal I actually think hes going to start trending down. This is a guy whose only pitched 200IP twice. He doesn't go pas the 6th which is always a concern



With great offensive support, he can definetly go past the 6th. On the Nats, he was dealing with injuries and he recieved solid run support but on Oakland, he got almost nothing.

[Bosox34]

I was going to say the same thing. While some may think Gio is a steal I actually think hes going to start trending down. This is a guy whose only pitched 200IP twice. He doesn't go pas the 6th which is always a concern

Explain how a guy at 29 is declining. I see a drop off but to me that's do to injuries and adjusting to the NL when he was so used to being in the AL

[chansen10]

With great offensive support, he can definetly go past the 6th. On the Nats, he was dealing with injuries and he recieved solid run support but on Oakland, he got almost nothing.

On Oakland is the only time he broke 200IP. Not sure the run support matters, he's not a pitcher who can go 200IP. I saw a lot of regression last year and think that will continue, but in terms of value He'll be a good 3rd pitcher for you. I just don't see him being as big of a steal as some are making him out to be.

[Bosox34]

On Oakland is the only time he broke 200IP. Not sure the run support matters, he's not a pitcher who can go 200IP. I saw a lot of regression last year and think that will continue, but in terms of value He'll be a good 3rd pitcher for you. I just don't see him being as big of a steal as some are making him out to be.

Yeah like I said, he isn't quite a steal as I make him out to be(I like him a lot so that's why I'm kind of biased) but I think he's a good deal considering it's the 4th round

[SportsAutoFreak]

No "campaign" for anyone. Gio going after guys like Dallas Keuchel, giolito, and a bunch of other arms is hilarious.

Buxton and Correa who are both injured minor leaguers being picked before some all stars. Dudes may NEVER play a major league game!

There are a lot more lastings milledge and Fernando Martinez and Jackie Bradley jr's than there are perennial all star "top prospects".

No way you could honestly predict teams with these dudes (especially hurt ones) to win World Series rings. In a perfect world, of course they are everything you think they will be. We don't live in that world.

I stand by my Keuchel decision. If this were November 2012, I'd absolutely take Gio if I were in that spot. It's November 2014 and I think Keuchel is a future Cy Young winner.

[Skipscards]

I stand by my Keuchel decision. If this were November 2012, I'd absolutely take Gio if I were in that spot. It's November 2014 and I think Keuchel is a future Cy Young winner.

Though one great year does not a legend make, I agree, Keuchel is the real deal. I'd take him before Gio.

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01. [1.01] Arizona Diamondbacks: Mike Trout (CF)
02. [1,02] Colorado Rockies: Miguel Cabrera (1B)
03. [1,03] Texas Rangers: Clayton Kershaw (P)
04. [1,04] Houston Astros: Giancarlo Stanton (RF)
05. [1,05] Minnesota Twins: Andrew McCutchen (CF)
06. [1,06] Boston Red Sox: Madison Bumgarner(SP)
07. [1,07] Chicago White Sox: Buster Posey (C)
08. [1,08] Chicago Cubs: Jose Altuve (2B)
09. [1,09] Philadelphia Phillies: Felix Hernandez (SP)
10. [1,10] Cincinnati Reds : Carlos gonzalez(OF)
11. [1,11] Miami Marlins: Josh Donaldson (3B)
12. [1,12] San Diego Padres: Paul Goldschmidt(1B)
13. [1,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Yasiel Puig (OF)
14. [1,14] New York Mets: Anthony Rizzo (1B)
15. [1,15] Atlanta Braves: Jose Abreu (1B)
16. [1,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Anthony Rendon (2B/3B)
17. [1,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Chris Sale(SP)
18. [1,18] New York Yankees: Troy Tulowitski (SS)
19. [1,19] Cleveland Indians: Jose Fernandez (SP)
20. [1,20] Seattle Mariners: Jason Heyward (RF)
21. [1,21] San Francisco Giants: Craig Kimbrel(RP)
22. [1,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Carlos Gomez (CF)
23. [1,23] Oakland Athletics: Sonny Gray (SP)
24. [1,24] Kansas City Royals: Eric Hosmer (1B)
25. [1,25] Detroit Tigers: Bryce Harper (OF)
26. [1,26] St. Louis Cardinals: Evan Longoria (3B)
27. [1,27] Los Angeles Dodgers: Robinson Cano (2B)
28. [1,28] Baltimore Orioles: Freddie Freeman (1B)
29. [1,29] Washington Nationals: Billy Hamilton (OF)
30. [1,30] Los Angeles Angels: Starlin Castro (SS)
31. [2,01] Angels: Kris Bryant (3B)
32. [2,02] Washington Nationals: Adam Jones (OF)
33. [2,03] Baltimore Orioles: Yu Darvish (SP)
34. [2,04] Los Angeles Dodgers: Stephen Strasburg (SP)
35. [2,05] St. Louis Cardinals : Adam Wainwright SP
36. [2,06] Detroit Tigers: Jon Lester (SP)
37. [2,07] Kansas City Royals: Alex Gordon (LF)
38. [2,08] Oakland Athletics: Kyle Seager (3B)
39. [2,09] Pittsburgh Pirates: Corey Kluber (SP)
40. [2,10] San Francisco Giants: Adrian Beltre (3B)
41. [2,11] Seattle Mariners: Max Scherzer (SP)
42. [2,12] Cleveland Indians: Manny Machado (3B)
43. [2,13] New York Yankees: Matt Harvey (SP)
44. [2,14] Toronto Blue Jays: David Price (SP)
45: [2,15] Milwaukee Brewers: Nolan Arenado (3B)
46: [2,16] Atlanta Braves: Masahiro Tanaka (SP)
47. [2,17] New York Mets: Jordan Zimmerman (SP)
48. [2,18] Tampa Bay Rays: Julio Teheran (SP)
49. [2,19] San Diego Padres: Johnny Cueto (SP)
50. [2,20] Miami Marlins: Edwin Encarnacion (1B)
51. [2,21] Cincinnati Red: Jacob DeGrom (SP)
52. [2,22] Philadelphia Phillies: Cole Hamels (SP)
53. [2,23] Chicago Cubs: Yordano Ventura (SP)
54. [2,24] Chicago White Sox: Zack Greinke (SP)
55. [2,25] Boston Red Sox:Justin Upton (OF)
56. [2,26] Minnesota Twins: Michael Wacha (SP)
57. [2,27] Houston Astros: Matt Kemp (OF)
58. [2,28] Texas Rangers: Michael Brantley (OF)
59. [2,29] Colorado Rockies: Gerrit Cole (SP)
60. [2,30] Arizona Diamondbacks: Joey Votto (1B)
61. [3,1] Arizona Diamondbacks: Starling Marte (LF)
62. [3,2] Colorado Rockies: Brian Dozier (2B)
63. [3,3] Texas Rangers: Todd Frazier (3B)
64. [3,4] Houston Astros Yoenis Cespedes (OF)
65. [3,5] Minnesota Twins: Andrelton Simmons (SS)
66. [3,6] Boston Red Sox: Chris Archer (SP)
67. [3,7] Chicago White Sox: Adrian Gonzalez (1B)
68. [3,8] Chicago Cubs: Yasmany Tomas (RF)
69. [3,9] Philadelphia Phillies: Rusney Castillo (OF)
70. [3,10] Cincinnati Reds: Jose Bautista (OF)
71. [3,11] Miami Marlins: Ian Desmond (SS)
72. [3,12] San Diego Padres: Garret Richards (SP)
73. [3,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Jonathan Lucroy (C)
74. [3,14] New York Mets: Kolten Wong (2B)
75. [3,15] Atlanta Braves: Alex Wood (SP)
76. [3,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Jorge Soler (OF)
77. [3,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Andrew Cashner (SP)
78. [3,18] New York Yankees: Corey Dickerson (OF)
79. [3,19] Cleveland Indians: George Springer (OF)
80. [3,20] Seattle Mariners : Javier Baez (SS)
81. [3,21] San Francisco Giants: Dallas Keuchel (SP)
82. [3,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Lorenzo Cain (RF)
83. [3,23] Oakland Athletics: Doug Fister (SP)
84. [3,24] Kansas City Royals: Joc Pederson (OF)
85. [3,25] Detroit Tigers: Matt Carpenter (3B)
86. [3,26] St. Louis Cardinals Devin Mesoraco (C)
87. [3,27] LA Dodgers: Zack Wheeler (RHP)
88. [3,28] Baltimore Orioles: Christian Yelich (OF)
89. [3,29] Washington Nationals, Jay Bruce (OF)
90. [3,30] Los Angeles Angels: Hyun Jin Ryu (SP)
91. [4,1] Los Angels Angels: Pablo Sandoval (3B/1B/DH)
92. [4,2] Washington Nationals: Jason Kipnis (2B)
93. [4,3] Baltimore Orioles: Shelby Miller (SP)
94. [4,4] LA Dodgers: Dee Gordon (SS)
95. [4,5] St. Louis Cardinals: Matt Adams (1B)
96. [4,6] Detroit Tigers: Alex Cobb (SP)
97. [4,7] Kansas City Royals: Danny Duffy (SP)
98. [4,8] Oakland Athletics: Jacoby Ellsbury (OF)
99. [4,9] Pittsburgh Pirates: Yadier Molina (C)
100. [4,10] San Francisco Giants: Ben Revere (CF)
101. [4,11] Seattle Mariners: Denard Span (CF)
102. [4,12] Cleveland Indians: Phil Hughes (SP)
103. [4,13] New York Yankees: Byron Buxton (OF)
104. [4,14] Toronto Blue Jays: Yan Gomes (C)
105. [4,15] Milwaukee Brewers: Jeff Samardzija (SP)
106. [4,16] Atlanta Braves: Mookie Betts (2B)
107. [4,17] New York Mets: Xander Bogaerts (SS)
108. [4,18] Tampa Bay Rays: Addison Russell (SS)
109. [4,19] San Diego Padres: Salvador Perez (C)
110. [4,20] Miami Marlins: Lucas Giolito (SP)
111. [4,21] Cincinnati Reds : Adam Eaton (CF)
112. [4,22] Philadelphia Phillies: Carlos Correa (SS)
113. [4,23] Chicago Cubs: Henderson Alvarez (SP)
114. [4,24] Chicago White Sox: J.D. Martinez (LF)
115. [4,25] Boston Red Sox: Gio Gonzalez (SP)
116. [4,26] Minnesota Twins: Justin Verlander (SP)
117. [4,27] Houston Astros: Evan Gattis (C)
118. [4,28] Texas Rangers: Drew Smyly (SP)
119. [4,29] Colorado Rockies: Danny Santana(SS)
120. [4,30] Arizona Diamondbacks: Ryan Braun (OF)
121. [5,1] Arizona Diamondbacks: Dustin Pedroia (2B)
122. [5,2] Colorado Rockies: Alex Meyer (SP)
123. [5,3] Texas Rangers: Prince Fielder (1B)
124. [5,4] Houston Astros: Jean Segura (SS)
125. [5,5] Minnesota Twins: Asdrubal Cabrera (2B/SS)
126. [5,6] Boston Red Sox: Josh Harrison (2B)
127. [5,7] Chicago White Sox: Rick Porcello (SP)
128. [5,8] Chicago Cubs: Travis d'Arnaud (C)
129. [5,9] Philadelphia Phillies: Albert Pujols (1B)
130. [5,10] Cincinnati Reds: Jake Arrieta (SP)
131. [5,11] Miami Marlins: Noah Syndergaard (SP)
132. [5,12] San Diego Padres: Marcus Stroman(SP)
133. [5,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Hunter Pence (OF)
134. [5,14] New York Mets: Carlos Santana (C)
135. [5,15] Atlanta Braves: Ian Kinsler (2B)
136. [5,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Chris Davis (1B)
137. [5,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Joe Mauer (1B)
138. [5,18] New York Yankees: Michael Pineda (SP)
139. [5,19] Cleveland Indians: Neil Walker (2B)
140. [5,20] Seattle Mariners: Scooter Gennett (2B)
141. [5,21] San Francisco Giants: Mat Latos (RHP)
142. [5,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Lance Lynn (SP)
143. [5,23] Oakland Athletics: Lucas Duda (1B)
144. [5,24] Kansas City Royals: Wil Myers (OF)
145. [5,25] Detroit Tigers: David Wright (3B)
146. [5,26] St. Louis Cardinals: Alcides Escobar (SS)
147. [5,27] Los Angeles Dodgers: Tyson Ross (SP)
148. [5,28] Baltimore Orioles: Mark Trumbo (OF)
149. [5,29] Washington Nationals: Derek Norris (C)
150. [5,30] Los Angeles Angels: Hanley Ramirez (SS)
151. [6,1] Los Angeles Angels: Aroldis Chapman (CL)
152. [6,2] Washington Nationals: Jose Reyes (SS)
153. [6,3] Baltimore Orioles: Gregory Polanco (OF)
154. [6,4] Los Angeles Dodgers: James Shields (SP)
155. [6,5] St. Louis Cardinals: Tanner Roark (SP)
156. [6,6] Detroit Tigers: Anibal Sanchez (SP)
157. [6,7] Kansas City Royals: Jeong-ho Kang (SS)
158. [6,8] Oakland Athletics: Francisco Lindor (SS)
159. [6,9] Pittsburgh Pirates: Matt Moore (SP)
160. [6,10] San Francisco Giants: Kole Calhoun (RF)
161. [6,11] Seattle Mariners: Nathan Eovaldi (SP)
162. [6,12] Cleveland Indians: Elvis Andrus (SS)
163. [6,13]New York Yankees: Jurickson Profar (2B)
164. [6,14] Toronto Blue Jays: Greg Holland (CL)
165. [6,15] Milwaukee Brewers: James Paxton (SP)
166. [6,16] Atlanta Braves: Jered Weaver (SP)
167. [6,17] New York Mets: Matt Cain (SP)
168. [6,18] Tampa Bay Rays: Jose Quintana (SP)

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Draft order above is being updated.

Oakland Athletics


Lineup (subject to change)
#1 - Jacoby Ellsbury (OF)
#2 -
#3 - Kyle Seager (3B)
#4 - Lucas Duda (1B)
#5 - Francisco Lindor (SS)
#6 -
#7 -
#8 -
#9 -


SP - Sonny Gray
SP - Doug Fister
SP - Matt Shoemaker
RP -
RP -
CL -

[kyaa]

Trumbo is a much better fantasy player than reality.

[death2redemptions]

Trumbo is a much better fantasy player than reality.

He can hit home runs and that is about it.

But you're right, he is a better fantasy player because in fantasy draft defense doesn't matter...and he is terrible defensively.

[Skipscards]

Trout is better than Kimbrel. No he isn't. Yes he is. No he isn't. Yes he is. You're opinion is your opinion. Well your opinion is wrong. No it isn't. I didn't say that. Yes you did. No I didn't ....

[SportsAutoFreak]

I wish we could put this rest. No one agrees with me, but my opinion remains.

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01. [1.01] Arizona Diamondbacks: Mike Trout (CF)
02. [1,02] Colorado Rockies: Miguel Cabrera (1B)
03. [1,03] Texas Rangers: Clayton Kershaw (P)
04. [1,04] Houston Astros: Giancarlo Stanton (RF)
05. [1,05] Minnesota Twins: Andrew McCutchen (CF)
06. [1,06] Boston Red Sox: Madison Bumgarner(SP)
07. [1,07] Chicago White Sox: Buster Posey (C)
08. [1,08] Chicago Cubs: Jose Altuve (2B)
09. [1,09] Philadelphia Phillies: Felix Hernandez (SP)
10. [1,10] Cincinnati Reds : Carlos Gonzalez(OF)
11. [1,11] Miami Marlins: Josh Donaldson (3B)
12. [1,12] San Diego Padres: Paul Goldschmidt(1B)
13. [1,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Yasiel Puig (OF)
14. [1,14] New York Mets: Anthony Rizzo (1B)
15. [1,15] Atlanta Braves: Jose Abreu (1B)
16. [1,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Anthony Rendon (2B/3B)
17. [1,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Chris Sale(SP)
18. [1,18] New York Yankees: Troy Tulowitski (SS)
19. [1,19] Cleveland Indians: Jose Fernandez (SP)
20. [1,20] Seattle Mariners: Jason Heyward (RF)
21. [1,21] San Francisco Giants: Craig Kimbrel(RP)
22. [1,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Carlos Gomez (CF)
23. [1,23] Oakland Athletics: Sonny Gray (SP)
24. [1,24] Kansas City Royals: Eric Hosmer (1B)
25. [1,25] Detroit Tigers: Bryce Harper (OF)
26. [1,26] St. Louis Cardinals: Evan Longoria (3B)
27. [1,27] Los Angeles Dodgers: Robinson Cano (2B)
28. [1,28] Baltimore Orioles: Freddie Freeman (1B)
29. [1,29] Washington Nationals: Billy Hamilton (OF)
30. [1,30] Los Angeles Angels: Starlin Castro (SS)
31. [2,01] Angels: Kris Bryant (3B)
32. [2,02] Washington Nationals: Adam Jones (OF)
33. [2,03] Baltimore Orioles: Yu Darvish (SP)
34. [2,04] Los Angeles Dodgers: Stephen Strasburg (SP)
35. [2,05] St. Louis Cardinals : Adam Wainwright SP
36. [2,06] Detroit Tigers: Jon Lester (SP)
37. [2,07] Kansas City Royals: Alex Gordon (LF)
38. [2,08] Oakland Athletics: Kyle Seager (3B)
39. [2,09] Pittsburgh Pirates: Corey Kluber (SP)
40. [2,10] San Francisco Giants: Adrian Beltre (3B)
41. [2,11] Seattle Mariners: Max Scherzer (SP)
42. [2,12] Cleveland Indians: Manny Machado (3B)
43. [2,13] New York Yankees: Matt Harvey (SP)
44. [2,14] Toronto Blue Jays: David Price (SP)
45: [2,15] Milwaukee Brewers: Nolan Arenado (3B)
46: [2,16] Atlanta Braves: Masahiro Tanaka (SP)
47. [2,17] New York Mets: Jordan Zimmerman (SP)
48. [2,18] Tampa Bay Rays: Julio Teheran (SP)
49. [2,19] San Diego Padres: Johnny Cueto (SP)
50. [2,20] Miami Marlins: Edwin Encarnacion (1B)
51. [2,21] Cincinnati Red: Jacob DeGrom (SP)
52. [2,22] Philadelphia Phillies: Cole Hamels (SP)
53. [2,23] Chicago Cubs: Yordano Ventura (SP)
54. [2,24] Chicago White Sox: Zack Greinke (SP)
55. [2,25] Boston Red Sox:Justin Upton (OF)
56. [2,26] Minnesota Twins: Michael Wacha (SP)
57. [2,27] Houston Astros: Matt Kemp (OF)
58. [2,28] Texas Rangers: Michael Brantley (OF)
59. [2,29] Colorado Rockies: Gerrit Cole (SP)
60. [2,30] Arizona Diamondbacks: Joey Votto (1B)
61. [3,1] Arizona Diamondbacks: Starling Marte (LF)
62. [3,2] Colorado Rockies: Brian Dozier (2B)
63. [3,3] Texas Rangers: Todd Frazier (3B)
64. [3,4] Houston Astros Yoenis Cespedes (OF)
65. [3,5] Minnesota Twins: Andrelton Simmons (SS)
66. [3,6] Boston Red Sox: Chris Archer (SP)
67. [3,7] Chicago White Sox: Adrian Gonzalez (1B)
68. [3,8] Chicago Cubs: Yasmany Tomas (RF)
69. [3,9] Philadelphia Phillies: Rusney Castillo (OF)
70. [3,10] Cincinnati Reds: Jose Bautista (OF)
71. [3,11] Miami Marlins: Ian Desmond (SS)
72. [3,12] San Diego Padres: Garret Richards (SP)
73. [3,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Jonathan Lucroy (C)
74. [3,14] New York Mets: Kolten Wong (2B)
75. [3,15] Atlanta Braves: Alex Wood (SP)
76. [3,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Jorge Soler (OF)
77. [3,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Andrew Cashner (SP)
78. [3,18] New York Yankees: Corey Dickerson (OF)
79. [3,19] Cleveland Indians: George Springer (OF)
80. [3,20] Seattle Mariners : Javier Baez (SS)
81. [3,21] San Francisco Giants: Dallas Keuchel (SP)
82. [3,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Lorenzo Cain (RF)
83. [3,23] Oakland Athletics: Doug Fister (SP)
84. [3,24] Kansas City Royals: Joc Pederson (OF)
85. [3,25] Detroit Tigers: Matt Carpenter (3B)
86. [3,26] St. Louis Cardinals Devin Mesoraco (C)
87. [3,27] LA Dodgers: Zack Wheeler (RHP)
88. [3,28] Baltimore Orioles: Christian Yelich (OF)
89. [3,29] Washington Nationals, Jay Bruce (OF)
90. [3,30] Los Angeles Angels: Hyun Jin Ryu (SP)
91. [4,1] Los Angels Angels: Pablo Sandoval (3B/1B/DH)
92. [4,2] Washington Nationals: Jason Kipnis (2B)
93. [4,3] Baltimore Orioles: Shelby Miller (SP)
94. [4,4] LA Dodgers: Dee Gordon (SS)
95. [4,5] St. Louis Cardinals: Matt Adams (1B)
96. [4,6] Detroit Tigers: Alex Cobb (SP)
97. [4,7] Kansas City Royals: Danny Duffy (SP)
98. [4,8] Oakland Athletics: Jacoby Ellsbury (OF)
99. [4,9] Pittsburgh Pirates: Yadier Molina (C)
100. [4,10] San Francisco Giants: Ben Revere (CF)
101. [4,11] Seattle Mariners: Denard Span (CF)
102. [4,12] Cleveland Indians: Phil Hughes (SP)
103. [4,13] New York Yankees: Byron Buxton (OF)
104. [4,14] Toronto Blue Jays: Yan Gomes (C)
105. [4,15] Milwaukee Brewers: Jeff Samardzija (SP)
106. [4,16] Atlanta Braves: Mookie Betts (2B)
107. [4,17] New York Mets: Xander Bogaerts (SS)
108. [4,18] Tampa Bay Rays: Addison Russell (SS)
109. [4,19] San Diego Padres: Salvador Perez (C)
110. [4,20] Miami Marlins: Lucas Giolito (SP)
111. [4,21] Cincinnati Reds : Adam Eaton (CF)
112. [4,22] Philadelphia Phillies: Carlos Correa (SS)
113. [4,23] Chicago Cubs: Henderson Alvarez (SP)
114. [4,24] Chicago White Sox: J.D. Martinez (LF)
115. [4,25] Boston Red Sox: Gio Gonzalez (SP)
116. [4,26] Minnesota Twins: Justin Verlander (SP)
117. [4,27] Houston Astros: Evan Gattis (C)
118. [4,28] Texas Rangers: Drew Smyly (SP)
119. [4,29] Colorado Rockies: Danny Santana(SS)
120. [4,30] Arizona Diamondbacks: Ryan Braun (OF)
121. [5,1] Arizona Diamondbacks: Dustin Pedroia (2B)
122. [5,2] Colorado Rockies: Alex Meyer (SP)
123. [5,3] Texas Rangers: Prince Fielder (1B)
124. [5,4] Houston Astros: Jean Segura (SS)
125. [5,5] Minnesota Twins: Asdrubal Cabrera (2B/SS)
126. [5,6] Boston Red Sox: Josh Harrison (2B)
127. [5,7] Chicago White Sox: Rick Porcello (SP)
128. [5,8] Chicago Cubs: Travis d'Arnaud (C)
129. [5,9] Philadelphia Phillies: Albert Pujols (1B)
130. [5,10] Cincinnati Reds: Jake Arrieta (SP)
131. [5,11] Miami Marlins: Noah Syndergaard (SP)
132. [5,12] San Diego Padres: Marcus Stroman (SP)
133. [5,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Hunter Pence (OF)
134. [5,14] New York Mets: Carlos Santana (C)
135. [5,15] Atlanta Braves: Ian Kinsler (2B)
136. [5,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Chris Davis (1B)
137. [5,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Joe Mauer (1B)
138. [5,18] New York Yankees: Michael Pineda (SP)
139. [5,19] Cleveland Indians: Neil Walker (2B)
140. [5,20] Seattle Mariners: Scooter Gennett (2B)
141. [5,21] San Francisco Giants: Mat Latos (RHP)
142. [5,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Lance Lynn (SP)
143. [5,23] Oakland Athletics: Lucas Duda (1B)
144. [5,24] Kansas City Royals: Wil Myers (OF)
145. [5,25] Detroit Tigers: David Wright (3B)
146. [5,26] St. Louis Cardinals: Alcides Escobar (SS)
147. [5,27] Los Angeles Dodgers: Tyson Ross (SP)
148. [5,28] Baltimore Orioles: Mark Trumbo (OF)
149. [5,29] Washington Nationals: Derek Norris (C)
150. [5,30] Los Angeles Angels: Hanley Ramirez (SS)
151. [6,1] Los Angeles Angels: Aroldis Chapman (CL)
152. [6,2] Washington Nationals: Jose Reyes (SS)
153. [6,3] Baltimore Orioles: Gregory Polanco (OF)
154. [6,4] Los Angeles Dodgers: James Shields (SP)
155. [6,5] St. Louis Cardinals: Tanner Roark (SP)
156. [6,6] Detroit Tigers: Anibal Sanchez (SP)
157. [6,7] Kansas City Royals: Jeong-ho Kang (SS)
158. [6,8] Oakland Athletics: Francisco Lindor (SS)
159. [6,9] Pittsburgh Pirates: Matt Moore (SP)
160. [6,10] San Francisco Giants: Kole Calhoun (RF)
161. [6,11] Seattle Mariners: Nathan Eovaldi (SP)
162. [6,12] Cleveland Indians: Elvis Andrus (SS)
163. [6,13] New York Yankees: Jurickson Profar (2B)
164. [6,14] Toronto Blue Jays: Greg Holland (CL)
165. [6,15] Milwaukee Brewers: James Paxton (SP)
166. [6,16] Atlanta Braves: Jered Weaver (SP)
167. [6,17] New York Mets: Matt Cain (SP)
168. [6,18] Tampa Bay Rays: Jose Quintana (SP)
169. [6,19] San Diego Padres: Jedd Gyorko (2B)
170. [6,20] Miami Marlins: Tyler Glasnow (SP)
171. [6,21] Cincinnati Reds: Marcell Ozuna (OF)
172. [6,22] Philadelphia Phillies: Kevin Gausman (SP)
173. [6,23] Chicago Cubs: Corey Seager (SS)
174. [6,24] Chicago White Sox: Nick Castellanos (3B)
175. [6,25] Boston Red Sox: Matt Wieters (C)
176. [6,26] Minnesota Twins: Wilson Ramos (C)
177. [6,27] Houston Astros: Joey Gallo (3B)
178. [6,28] Texas Rangers: Jake Odorizzi (SP)
179. [6,29] Colorado Rockies: Chros Tillman (SP)
180. [6,30] Arizona Diamondbacks: Kenta Maeda (SP)
181. [7,1] Arizona Diamondbacks: Homer Bailey (SP)
182. [7,2] Colorado Rockies: Kenny's Vargas (1B)
183. [7,3] Texas Rangers: Leonys Martin (OF)
184. [7,4] Houston Astros: Carlos Martinez (SP)
185. [7,5] Minnesota Twins: Miguel Sano (3B)
186. [7,6] Boston Red Sox: Jose Iglesias (SS)
187. [7,7] Chicago White Sox: Wei-Yen Chen (SP)
188. [7,8] Chicago Cubs: Carlos Carrasco (SP)
189. [7,9] Philadelphia Phillies: Carlos Rodon (SP)
190. [7,10] Cincinnati Reds: Joe Panik (2B)
191. [7,11] Miami Marlins: Eric Sogard (2B)
192. [7,12] San Diego Padres: Avisail Garcia (RF)
193. [7,13] Tampa Bay Rays: Ben Zobrist (2B)
194. [7,14] New York Mets: Dexter Fowler (OF)
195. [7,15] Atlanta Braves: Russell Martin (C)
196. [7,16] Milwaukee Brewers: Francisco Liriano (SP)
197. [7,17] Toronto Blue Jays: Dellin Betances (RP)
198. [7,18] New York Yankees: Wilin Rosario (C)
199. [7,19] Cleveland Indians: Mike Zunino (C)
200. [7,20] Seattle Mariners: Blake Swihart (C)
201. [7,21] San Francisco Giants: Kurt Suzuki (C)
202. [7,22] Pittsburgh Pirates: Brandon Belt (1B)
203. [7,23] Oakland Athletics: Matt Shoemaker (SP)
204. [7,24] Kansas City Royals: Collin McHugh (SP)[/QUOTE]
205. [7,25] Detroit Tigers: Jason Castro (C)
206. [7,26] St. Louis Cardinals: Jose Peraza (2B)
207. [7,27] Los Angeles Dodgers: Chris Carter (1B)
208. [7,28] Baltimore Orioles: Howie Kendrick (2B)
209. [7,29] Washington Nationals: Trevor Rosenthal (RP)
210. [7,30] Los Angeles Angels: Archie Bradley (SP)
211. [8,1] Los Angeles Angels: Dylan Bundy (SP)
212. [8,2] Washington Nationals: Kenley Jansen (RP)
213. [8,3] Baltimore Orioles: Brock Holt (SS)
214. [8,4] Los Angeles Dodgers: Brett Lawrie (3B)
215. [8,5] St. Louis Cardinals: Allen Craig (OF)
216. [8,6] Detroit Tigers: Daniel Murphy (2B)
217. [8,7] Kansas City Royals: Juan Lagares (OF)
218. [8,8] Oakland Athletics: Brian McCann (C)
219. [8,9] Pittsburgh Pirates: Pedro Alvarez (3B)
220. [8,10] San Francisco Giants: JJ Hardy (SS)
221. [8,11] Seattle Mariners: Wade Miley(SP)
222. [8,12] Cleveland Indans: Yovani Gallardo (SP)
223. [8,13] New York Yankees: Henry Owens (SP)

[jewcer2k5]

As for the conversation about JJ Hardy.

Just did a quick search and there are at least 3 dudes I would take over him immediately based on their age and comparable skill set.

I get it, he's an elite defender. There are other guys that have the ability to grow into that elite defender and have a stronger bat than him still on the board.

The difference he is that he has admitted weak spots that he'd like to fill and could probably fill one of them and pick Hardy in the 9th.

Again, I wouldn't have even said anything if not for the "selling" of the pick for no reason.

[SportsAutoFreak]

As for the conversation about JJ Hardy.

Just did a quick search and there are at least 3 dudes I would take over him immediately based on their age and comparable skill set.

I get it, he's an elite defender. There are other guys that have the ability to grow into that elite defender and have a stronger bat than him still on the board.

The difference he is that he has admitted weak spots that he'd like to fill and could probably fill one of them and pick Hardy in the 9th.

Again, I wouldn't have even said anything if not for the "selling" of the pick for no reason.

Like Skip said, there's no need to risk it at this point. I've risked too many players, thinking they'd fall back to me and they didn't. I wasn't about to risk it again. I like my pick. Others seem to as well. Age is not everything, either. When going for the long term, sure. However, I think this is a team which could win now. What if I took someone else and Hardy was gone before the 9th round? I wanted Kendrick. He was taken. I wanted Murphy. He, too, was taken.

There's no time to waste and mess around. Looking at who has been taken, I like Hardy over others.

I like to discuss my picks and back them up. I guess that makes me a bad person.

[jewcer2k5]

Like Skip said, there's no need to risk it at this point. I've risked too many players, thinking they'd fall back to me and they didn't. I wasn't about to risk it again. I like my pick. Others seem to as well. Age is not everything, either. When going for the long term, sure. However, I think this is a team which could win now. What if I took someone else and Hardy was gone before the 9th round? I wanted Kendrick. He was taken. I wanted Murphy. He, too, was taken.

There's no time to waste and mess around. Looking at who has been taken, I like Hardy over others.

I like to discuss my picks and back them up. I guess that makes me a bad person.

Who ever said you were a bad person?

So far you have changed what I said into me calling you a bad person and me hating your players. Ive said neither.

I think Skip is the only one defending you and Hardy which is nice. Someone else sent me a PM naming 4 dudes that he liked more than Hardy and asking why you would take an old guy on the decline when there were comparable players that are younger and can get better instead of worse.

To each their own.

I've missed a few dudes that I wanted but got guys that I think will help my team. I have a list of about 10 SP that I like....I have a feeling I will get a fair share of them and people will bash me for some of them but I don't care. They fit into what I am looking for. If I miss them I am happy with the others b/c in my opinion SP is one of the most replaceable positions out there (obviously not including the guys that went in the first 2 rounds) but I am happy with the 2 dudes I took.

If I had to do it again I know there are a few things I'd do differently but overall I am happy with how the team has turned out so far.

The thing I have going for me is my premium positions are filled while others are now grabbing the leftovers....This will let my SP's fall to me when and where I want them (hopefully)

Im happy you like the debate, I actually got a PM from another owner asking why I was so mean about his team. Sorta sad that people are that thin skinned.

You're a good dude and good for a debate so it is entertaining while I am listing all my dog toys on amazon.com today.

[SportsAutoFreak]

Who ever said you were a bad person?

So far you have changed what I said into me calling you a bad person and me hating your players. Ive said neither.

I think Skip is the only one defending you and Hardy which is nice. Someone else sent me a PM naming 4 dudes that he liked more than Hardy and asking why you would take an old guy on the decline when there were comparable players that are younger and can get better instead of worse.

To each their own.

I've missed a few dudes that I wanted but got guys that I think will help my team. I have a list of about 10 SP that I like....I have a feeling I will get a fair share of them and people will bash me for some of them but I don't care. They fit into what I am looking for. If I miss them I am happy with the others b/c in my opinion SP is one of the most replaceable positions out there (obviously not including the guys that went in the first 2 rounds) but I am happy with the 2 dudes I took.

If I had to do it again I know there are a few things I'd do differently but overall I am happy with how the team has turned out so far.

The thing I have going for me is my premium positions are filled while others are now grabbing the leftovers....This will let my SP's fall to me when and where I want them (hopefully)

Im happy you like the debate, I actually got a PM from another owner asking why I was so mean about his team. Sorta sad that people are that thin skinned.

You're a good dude and good for a debate so it is entertaining while I am listing all my dog toys on amazon.com today.

I've never said you actually said them, but that's my interpretation of the messages. Perhaps I'm reading you wrong. I know I'd maybe change things and do them differently, but I just have to move on and draft the best team I possibly can that fits what I'm looking after. Death2Redemptions also liked my Hardy pick as well. He even considered taking Hardy this round himself.

The only thing I wonder is, if the constant criticism of my picks is legitimate criticism of the player taken, or if it's from the person who took them.

I just know I've gotten criticism and praise from other posters. It just seems that it's been the most frequent on your behalf. I might as well go into "win now" mode. I think I've got a solid top of the staff so far with some young arms who have proven they can go 200 innings and still pitch respectably with other numbers and a closer who could be around for a very long time.

With the lineup, I have some young outfielders and a veteran infield. I honestly like the balance and I think, in real life at least, this is a team which could go pretty far.

[jewcer2k5]

I've never said you actually said them, but that's my interpretation of the messages. Perhaps I'm reading you wrong. I know I'd maybe change things and do them differently, but I just have to move on and draft the best team I possibly can that fits what I'm looking after. Death2Redemptions also liked my Hardy pick as well. He even considered taking Hardy this round himself.



The only thing I wonder is, if the constant criticism of my picks is legitimate criticism of the player taken, or if it's from the person who took them.



I just know I've gotten criticism and praise from other posters. It just seems that it's been the most frequent on your behalf. I might as well go into "win now" mode. I think I've got a solid top of the staff so far with some young arms who have proven they can go 200 innings and still pitch respectably with other numbers and a closer who could be around for a very long time.



With the lineup, I have some young outfielders and a veteran infield. I honestly like the balance and I think, in real life at least, this is a team which could go pretty far.


I've criticized and praised a lot of different guys. Pretty sure I said I liked Kalhoun pick bc I did. If I say I like it you probably wouldn't remember it. You also reply and reply and reply saying the same thing.

Don't read into what is said like you are. If I wanted to say it I said it. I don't sugar coat things.

Still not the player taken but when the player is taken.

Do you think missing Murphy or whoever the other guy is would be a huge hit against your team.

Murphy is a TERRIBLE defender.

If you wanna PM me I'll let you know the SS's I like more that are still available and you can tell me if you truly believe that JJ hardy is better than them for the next 7 years.

[Bosox34]

The problem is SAF the potential is limited when the guy is on the wrong side of 30. When he's in his 20s, you have a nice time for development

[TTMMaster19]

Catcher:
First Baseman: Edwin Encarnacion
Second Baseman: Eric Sogard
Shortstop: Ian Desmond
Third Baseman: Josh Donaldson
Left Fielder:
Center Fielder:
Right Fielder:
Pitcher #1: Lucas Giolito
Pitcher #2: Noah Syndergaard
Pitcher #3: Tyler Glasnow
Pitcher #4:
Pitcher #5

How's my squad boys?

[exitmusicblue]

Catcher:
First Baseman: Edwin Encarnacion
Second Baseman: Eric Sogard
Shortstop: Ian Desmond
Third Baseman: Josh Donaldson
Left Fielder:
Center Fielder:
Right Fielder:
Pitcher #1: Lucas Giolito
Pitcher #2: Noah Syndergaard
Pitcher #3: Tyler Glasnow
Pitcher #4:
Pitcher #5

How's my squad boys?

Bold rotation, some will criticize but not me. Obviously I am a fan of Donaldson. What did you see in Sogard though, his defense?

[SportsAutoFreak]

I've criticized and praised a lot of different guys. Pretty sure I said I liked Kalhoun pick bc I did. If I say I like it you probably wouldn't remember it. You also reply and reply and reply saying the same thing.

Don't read into what is said like you are. If I wanted to say it I said it. I don't sugar coat things.

Still not the player taken but when the player is taken.

Do you think missing Murphy or whoever the other guy is would be a huge hit against your team.

Murphy is a TERRIBLE defender.

If you wanna PM me I'll let you know the SS's I like more that are still available and you can tell me if you truly believe that JJ hardy is better than them for the next 7 years.

I remember you saying liked the Calhoun pick. I don't think my team is as bad as you seem to make it out to be.

I can PM you, sure.

I'll also say this, too. According to baseball-reference, Murphy had a -1.0 defensive WAR in 2014. Jason Kipnis had one of -0.7. So it doesn't look like Kipnis is exactly Bid McPhee himself.

[jewcer2k5]

I remember you saying liked the Calhoun pick. I don't think my team is as bad as you seem to make it out to be.



I can PM you, sure.



I'll also say this, too. According to baseball-reference, Murphy had a -1.0 defensive WAR in 2014. Jason Kipnis had one of -0.7. So it doesn't look like Kipnis is exactly Bid McPhee himself.


Kipnis is 27 and I'm quite ok with it.

You are about a round early on most picks IMO.

[SportsAutoFreak]

Kipnis is 27 and I'm quite ok with it.

You are about a round early on most picks IMO.

Murphy is 29, though. So, he's two years older but neither one is the greatest defender, though both can do good with bats.

If we're going by the law of averages, though, Kipnis broke out last year and wasn't quite as good in 2014.

[exitmusicblue]

Looks like the Post/Update Teams thread has been made to redirect to the main thread now, oh wells. We can feel free to post our teams here and in the main thread.

[death2redemptions]

Looks like the Post/Update Teams thread has been made to redirect to the main thread now, oh wells. We can feel free to post our teams here and in the main thread.

Jeez, don't be such a forum Nazi dude! :p:)!:D:p:D:)!

[Skipscards]

Looks like the Post/Update Teams thread has been made to redirect to the main thread now, oh wells. We can feel free to post our teams here and in the main thread.

I saw that. I wonder why? I thought it was a great idea. It's not like there's a lot of other thread traffic going on.

[jewcer2k5]

Murphy is 29, though. So, he's two years older but neither one is the greatest defender, though both can do good with bats.

If we're going by the law of averages, though, Kipnis broke out last year and wasn't quite as good in 2014.

And Kipnis is 27 while the guy you drafted is 32.

Hardy had a bust year when he was younger and then came back strong, which is the expectation I have for Kipnis.

Thank you for helping me prove my point about him and Jay Bruce :)

[SportsAutoFreak]

So this theory you subscribe to says they'll have a better 2015. Am I to think Keuchel bounces back in 2016 after an off 2015? Also, I know a young player who could have bounced back after an off year and returned to All Star form. This player I'm thinking of has done anything but.

[exitmusicblue]

Jeez, don't be such a forum Nazi dude! :p:)!:D:p:D:)!

Re-name all threads to Kimbrel x Hardy !!!! :D:devil::D

[jewcer2k5]

So this theory you subscribe to says they'll have a better 2015. Am I to think Keuchel bounces back in 2016 after an off 2015? Also, I know a young player who could have bounced back after an off year and returned to All Star form. This player I'm thinking of has done anything but.

This is literally like banging my head against a wall.

I think Keuchel will be OK. I don't think he will be a lights out pitcher.

Pitchers obviously can get better or can get worse (same with hitters)

If he can keep his BB/9 rate down that is the first step. He is not a super solid K pitcher so he has to induce GB to get outs and get lucky with balls hit in the right place or fielders getting to them.

I think he will trend closer to somewhere between last year and 2013. I think Kipnis and Bruce will do the same thing.

As for the SS you drafted, he is 5-7 years older than those guys so while he may improve slightly I think its more of a new norm than it is a 1 year trend.

Keuchel had an awesome HRA rate, which tied to a lower bb rate and a lower BABIP rate will give you a great season.

The question is, can he repeat.

Compare him to Ricky Romero (for argument sake)

Similar k rates, similar declining bb rate trend, similar WAR and then Romero BOMBED and ended his career when he lost the control again.

If Keuchel keeps the control and can increase the k rate he will be a stud.

Compare him to Kluber, Kluber had a 10+ k/9 rate. That is much more predictable that they will remain solid. There is no luck when it comes to K's.

Off qualified SP's Keuchel had the 64th best k rate out of 88 guys.

Also had the 6th best HR/9 rate while being right in the middle of the road for hr/fb. He was able to get ground balls a lot this year. Can he keep doing it? I'd prefer someone that is gonna strike people out, but that's just me.

Smells like regression.

[jewcer2k5]

To be clear I think he is a solid pitcher that could be a nice #3/#4 SP, but not a 3rd round pick.

Name the last Cy Young award winner with a k-rate that low?

When RA Dickey won it he had an 8.86 and that's probably the lowest I can remember.

[death2redemptions]

The horror...

The horror...

[jewcer2k5]

Bold rotation, some will criticize but not me. Obviously I am a fan of Donaldson. What did you see in Sogard though, his defense?

He's a Sun Devil...Enough said.

[Skipscards]

To be clear I think he is a solid pitcher that could be a nice #3/#4 SP, but not a 3rd round pick.

Name the last Cy Young award winner with a k-rate that low?

When RA Dickey won it he had an 8.86 and that's probably the lowest I can remember.

I may be wrong, but I think Halladay won Cy Youngs with lower K rates than Dickey.

[Skipscards]

Also, looks like Webb's Cy Young was with a 6.8 k-rate.

[jewcer2k5]

I may be wrong, but I think Halladay won Cy Youngs with lower K rates than Dickey.

6.9 in 2003 and 7.86.

He also had bb/9 rates of 1.08 each year.

He won in 2003 b/c of 22 wins which is a stupid stat to win based on.

Keuchel would have to buck his career trend again and cut his walk rate in 1/2 to get that low.

Not saying it's impossible but do you think that Keuchel is the next coming of Halladay? If you do then ok, but I'd bet he isn't.

[jewcer2k5]

Also, looks like Webb's Cy Young was with a 6.8 k-rate.

Webb was the same exact kind of pitcher as Keuchel, look how long his career lasted....

This could've been Keuchel's year like Webb's Cy Young year, look at the bb/9 regression rate.

Career he was a #3 SP on the team he was on....right?


Like I've said, it's not impossible just HIGHLY unlikely. He will be a solid #3 possibly #2 or #4 SP. Is that worth a 3rd or 4th round pick?

[death2redemptions]

Webb was the same exact kind of pitcher as Keuchel, look how long his career lasted....

This could've been Keuchel's year like Webb's Cy Young year, look at the bb/9 regression rate.

Career he was a #3 SP on the team he was on....right?


Like I've said, it's not impossible just HIGHLY unlikely. He will be a solid #3 possibly #2 or #4 SP. Is that worth a 3rd or 4th round pick?

Brandon Webb was much more than a one-time wonder mid of the rotation pitcher, he was an ace, or at the very least a solid #2. For three seasons in a row he finished in the top 2 in Cy Young voting. He only had one season with a WAR under 5. While it is true that he wasn't much of a strikeout pitcher he'd still give you 230+ IP every season with an ERA around 3.00-3.20. He was on his way to a potential HOF career but it ended way too early due to some sort of elbow injury. He didn't even get the chance to start going downhill, he just literally couldn't throw the ball anymore.

[exitmusicblue]

Brandon Webb was much more than a one-time wonder mid of the rotation pitcher, he was an ace, or at the very least a solid #2. For three seasons in a row he finished in the top 2 in Cy Young voting. He only had one season with a WAR under 5. While it is true that he wasn't much of a strikeout pitcher he'd still give you 230+ IP every season with an ERA around 3.00-3.20. He was on his way to a potential HOF career but it ended way too early due to some sort of elbow injury. He didn't even get the chance to start going downhill, he just literally couldn't throw the ball anymore.

Poor dude, I remember him well. Badass sinkerball pitcher. He got it done.

As for Sogard..... Sun Devil or not, someone take him off our hands, anyone, please !!!

[jewcer2k5]

Brandon Webb was much more than a one-time wonder mid of the rotation pitcher, he was an ace, or at the very least a solid #2. For three seasons in a row he finished in the top 2 in Cy Young voting. He only had one season with a WAR under 5. While it is true that he wasn't much of a strikeout pitcher he'd still give you 230+ IP every season with an ERA around 3.00-3.20. He was on his way to a potential HOF career but it ended way too early due to some sort of elbow injury. He didn't even get the chance to start going downhill, he just literally couldn't throw the ball anymore.

Keuchel does it one more year and I'll be a believer. I wouldn't take him in the 3rd or 4th round here yet though.

[death2redemptions]

Keuchel does it one more year and I'll be a believer. I wouldn't take him in the 3rd or 4th round here yet though.

Until Keuchel has three straight seasons where he finishes in the top 2 in Cy Young voting he can't be in the same category as Brandon Webb. Webb did all that before even reaching his prime, as his career ended when he was just 28. He could of had a marvelous career...

[SportsAutoFreak]

There's a high demand for pitching. I figured I couldn't neglect my staff. I wanted someone young, with a lot of innings and who could go the distance. Keuchel fit the bill and he has a lot of qualities to look for in an ace.

[Skipscards]

Until Keuchel has three straight seasons where he finishes in the top 2 in Cy Young voting he can't be in the same category as Brandon Webb. Webb did all that before even reaching his prime, as his career ended when he was just 28. He could of had a marvelous career...

Agreed. Webb was an Ace.

I've already discussed on other threads when we were talking about the Cy Young race that I thought Keuchel was underrated and had an amazing year when you factor in that he was in Houston! But sure, he does need to do it again for him to get some love.

[SportsAutoFreak]

I admire what he has done this year. I think he is next year's Kluber.

[ageofreason13]

I am not reading this whole argument. The moment someone says they'd rather have Kimbrel over Trout, that person has lost all credibility until they admit that maybe such a declaration was an over zealous attempt to rationalize an odd pick.

You wanted to establish a strong pen, leave it at that. You want contact and defense over power and OBP. Cool, I get it. The whole idea behind moneyball is to target skills that the industry undervalues, and that is what I see you doing. Don't weaken your strategy by being unrealistic in defending your picks. I don't know that you will do well in the voting, but it would be interesting to see how your team did in a simulated season.

[jewcer2k5]

Bringing this up so we dont waste pages on the draft thread.

[exitmusicblue]

Changed my mind for this round so freakin' often. We could use crystal balls...

[jewcer2k5]

Changed my mind for this round so freakin' often. We could use crystal balls...

Yea definitely wasnt around the parameters of what you said via PM.

I have 3 guys in mind for my swing, hoping I can get the top 2 but wouldn't be upset getting #3 either I guess.

[exitmusicblue]

Yea definitely wasnt around the parameters of what you said via PM.

I have 3 guys in mind for my swing, hoping I can get the top 2 but wouldn't be upset getting #3 either I guess.

Pretty sure you'll get them.. we're at a point where the skill level pool is very even across many players, doubt we'll see much criss-crossing of preferences.

[SportsAutoFreak]

I haven't really changed my mind, but it looks like I helped changed the mind of someone else recently.

[Skipscards]

Pretty sure you'll get them.. we're at a point where the skill level pool is very even across many players, doubt we'll see much criss-crossing of preferences.

I don't know. I've had more players I had my eye on get taken in the last few rounds than earlier in the draft. What will be interesting is to see if we see more prospects grabbed as 'sleepers' in the final rounds.

[exitmusicblue]

Oakland Athletics


Lineup (subject to change)
1. Jacoby Ellsbury (OF)
2. Christian Colon (2B)
3. Kyle Seager (3B)
4. Lucas Duda (1B)
5. Drew Stubbs (OF)
6. Brian McCann (C)
7. Francisco Lindor (SS)
8.
9.


SP - Sonny Gray
SP - Doug Fister
SP - Matt Shoemaker
SP -
SP -
RP -
RP -
CL -

[SportsAutoFreak]

I'm very psyched for this round.

[ageofreason13]

Oakland Athletics


Lineup (subject to change)
1. Jacoby Ellsbury (OF)
2. Christian Colon (2B)
3. Kyle Seager (3B)
4. Lucas Duda (1B)
5. Brian McCann (C)
6. Francisco Lindor (SS)
7.
8.
9.


SP - Sonny Gray
SP - Doug Fister
SP - Matt Shoemaker
SP -
SP -
RP -
RP -
CL -

Solid lineup, but too lefthanded. Colon is the loan righthander with Lindor switch-hitting.

[death2redemptions]

I'm very psyched for this round.

This round is worrisome for me...I have been going back in forth with the age old question...do I go with youth who have good potential upside or do I go with proven experience who will regress in the later years? I can't make up my mind and it is driving me crazy right now...

[exitmusicblue]

Solid lineup, but too lefthanded. Colon is the loan righthander with Lindor switch-hitting.

Yup, been aware of that, I will get at least 2-3 more right-handed hitters...

[SportsAutoFreak]

This round is worrisome for me...I have been going back in forth with the age old question...do I go with youth who have good potential upside or do I go with proven experience who will regress in the later years? I can't make up my mind and it is driving me crazy right now...

I am not worried because I like the players around.

[lambeauleap87]

Catcher - Mike Zunino (7)
First Baseman -
Second Baseman - Neil Walker (5)
Shortstop - Elvis Andrus (6)
Third Baseman - Manny Machado (2)
Left Fielder -
Center Fielder -
Right Fielder - George Springer (3)
Designated Hitter -
Starter #1 - Jose Fernandez (1)
Starter #2 - Phil Hughes (4)
Starter #3 - Yovani Gallardo (8)
Starter #4 - Patrick Corbin (9)
Starter #5 -
Reliever #1 -
Reliever #2 -
Closer -

I hadn't realized how right-centric my lineup is to this point, either. I'm also a little concerned about my outfield with Jennings and Jackson, the top two targets, going in a span of about three picks. Other than that, I'm pretty dang happy about how my team has played out. What do you guys think?

[death2redemptions]

I am not worried because I like the players around.

I have players on my radar, that isn't an issue. My issue is deciding which one to go with. I've got a couple youngsters in mind with good upside but then I have a veteran player I really like but he is in his early 30's.

[jewcer2k5]

Catcher - Mike Zunino (7)
First Baseman -
Second Baseman - Neil Walker (5)
Shortstop - Elvis Andrus (6)
Third Baseman - Manny Machado (2)
Left Fielder -
Center Fielder -
Right Fielder - George Springer (3)
Designated Hitter -
Starter #1 - Jose Fernandez (1)
Starter #2 - Phil Hughes (4)
Starter #3 - Yovani Gallardo (8)
Starter #4 - Patrick Corbin (9)
Starter #5 -
Reliever #1 -
Reliever #2 -
Closer -

I hadn't realized how right-centric my lineup is to this point, either. I'm also a little concerned about my outfield with Jennings and Jackson, the top two targets, going in a span of about three picks. Other than that, I'm pretty dang happy about how my team has played out. What do you guys think?

Lots of dudes with histories of major injuries. If they return to form and stay healthy pretty solid.

[SportsAutoFreak]

I have players on my radar, that isn't an issue. My issue is deciding which one to go with. I've got a couple youngsters in mind with good upside but then I have a veteran player I really like but he is in his early 30's.

I know precisely who I want. The question is if he's still around.

[lambeauleap87]

Lots of dudes with histories of major injuries. If they return to form and stay healthy pretty solid.

I feel like the injuries led to a lot of "steals" if they can stay healthy. Guys like Machado and likely Fernandez and Corbin would've been picked a lot higher if not for the injuries. It's a risk, but things like TJ surgery have been a lot less significant over the past few years.

Not to mention, there should be a nice name-recognition boost with quite a few of them.

[death2redemptions]

I hadn't realized how right-centric my lineup is to this point, either. I'm also a little concerned about my outfield with Jennings and Jackson, the top two targets, going in a span of about three picks. Other than that, I'm pretty dang happy about how my team has played out. What do you guys think?

And after hearing this I decided to check my roster...and oh boy, same problem here. That just made my decision for my next pick so much easier.

[exitmusicblue]

I feel like the injuries led to a lot of "steals" if they can stay healthy. Guys like Machado and likely Fernandez and Corbin would've been picked a lot higher if not for the injuries. It's a risk, but things like TJ surgery have been a lot less significant over the past few years.

Not to mention, there should be a nice name-recognition boost with quite a few of them.

In a way, it's actually smart that you clumped them together. A lot of BOers/player fans have great faith in their particular player coming back better than ever. This could make them more generous toward similarly injured players and their own comebacks.

[jewcer2k5]

I feel like the injuries led to a lot of "steals" if they can stay healthy. Guys like Machado and likely Fernandez and Corbin would've been picked a lot higher if not for the injuries. It's a risk, but things like TJ surgery have been a lot less significant over the past few years.

Not to mention, there should be a nice name-recognition boost with quite a few of them.

Definitely have name recognition if thats what you are going for.

I dont know how much higher JoFer would've gone considering he was still a first round pick.

[exitmusicblue]

And after hearing this I decided to check my roster...and oh boy, same problem here. That just made my decision for my next pick so much easier.

Yup, reverse situation, but likewise.. just zoomed in on my next pick.

[lambeauleap87]

In a way, it's actually smart that you clumped them together. A lot of BOers/player fans have great faith in their particular player coming back better than ever. This could make them more generous toward similarly injured players and their own comebacks.

Definitely have name recognition if thats what you are going for.

I dont know how much higher JoFer would've gone considering he was still a first round pick.

Wasn't particularly gunning for name recognition since I've been more looking to build the best possible team, but it's not a bad bonus.

On Fernandez, it wouldn't have surprised me at all to see him go Top-10 considering he's 22 with a career ERA of 2.25 should you take away the injury.

[jewcer2k5]

Wasn't particularly gunning for name recognition since I've been more looking to build the best possible team, but it's not a bad bonus.

On Fernandez, it wouldn't have surprised me at all to see him go Top-10 considering he's 22 with a career ERA of 2.25 should you take away the injury.

Agree on that front but its still a first rounder, pretty hard to screw that up save Eric Hosmer or Craig Kimbrel being taken...

[death2redemptions]

Agree on that front but its still a first rounder, pretty hard to screw that up save Eric Hosmer or Craig Kimbrel being taken...

Oh no you didn't! :eek:

[SportsAutoFreak]

Critics will be critics. I'm not worried.

[chansen10]

Wasn't particularly gunning for name recognition since I've been more looking to build the best possible team, but it's not a bad bonus.

On Fernandez, it wouldn't have surprised me at all to see him go Top-10 considering he's 22 with a career ERA of 2.25 should you take away the injury.

If fernadez was healthy i personally would have taken him in the top 10 same goes with Harvey.

[exitmusicblue]

Oakland Athletics


Lineup (subject to change)
1. Jacoby Ellsbury (OF)
2. Christian Colon (2B)
3. Kyle Seager (3B)
4. Lucas Duda (1B)
5. Drew Stubbs (OF)
6. Brian McCann (C)
7. Francisco Lindor (SS)
8. Albert Almora (OF)
9.


SP - Sonny Gray
SP - Doug Fister
SP - Matt Shoemaker
SP - Trevor Bauer
SP -
RP -
RP -
CL - Huston Street

[exitmusicblue]

All, let's convert this thread to a post/update-your-teams-here thread.

[exitmusicblue]

Bump so peeps can post their teams ! Need to size up the competition darnit, lol.

[enbambam6986]

You can copy and paste this format to save time.

C
1B
2B
SS
3B
LF
CF
RF

Rotation:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
RP
RP
CL

Lineup:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.

[xbignick]

Feel free to comment.

Arizona Diamondbacks

C: Kevin Plawecki
1B: Joey Votto
2B: Dustin Pedroia
SS: Jhonny Peralta
3B: Yulieski Gourriel
LF: Starling Marte
CF: Mike Trout
RF: Ryan Braun

SP: Kenta Maeda
SP: Homer Bailey
SP: Jonathan Niese
SP: Shohei Otani
SP: Matt Garza
RP:
RP:
CL:

Feel confident on relievers, plenty to choose from. I would do a bunch of things different though, didn't expect a lot of the draft to went how it did.

[Skipscards]

Feel free to comment.

Arizona Diamondbacks

C: Kevin Plawecki
1B: Joey Votto
2B: Dustin Pedroia
SS: Jhonny Peralta
3B: Yulieski Gourriel
LF: Starling Marte
CF: Mike Trout
RF: Ryan Braun

SP: Kenta Maeda
SP: Homer Bailey
SP: Jonathan Niese
SP: Shohei Otani
SP: Matt Garza
RP:
RP:
CL:

Feel confident on relievers, plenty to choose from. I would do a bunch of things different though, didn't expect a lot of the draft to went how it did.

Let's face it...Trout really helps. :D

I think you made some bold picks and I personally think your rotation is extremely interesting. It may come off being a little underrated because of Maeda and Otani. Plus, Otani is still pretty young. But these pitchers will definitely get some run support.

[exitmusicblue]

Let's face it...Trout really helps. :D

I think you made some bold picks and I personally think your rotation is extremely interesting. It may come off being a little underrated because of Maeda and Otani. Plus, Otani is still pretty young. But these pitchers will definitely get some run support.

I agree, though I think voters (esp. the less informed ones) will peg the rotation as a weakness/MLB-unproven-or-frail. Lineup is downright awesome though.

[exitmusicblue]

Let's see yours, dood :D

You can copy and paste this format to save time.

C
1B
2B
SS
3B
LF
CF
RF

Rotation:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
RP
RP
CL

Lineup:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.

[Skipscards]

Let's see yours, dood :D

Mine or bambam's?

[exitmusicblue]

Mine or bambam's?

Both if not busy, why not? :cool:

[death2redemptions]

Atlanta Braves

C - Russell Martin
1B - Jose Abreu
2B - Ian Kinsler
SS - Martin Prado
3B - Gavin Cecchini
LF - Brett Gardner
CF - Mookie Betts
RF

Rotation:
1. Masahiro Tanaka
2. Alex Wood
3. Jered Weaver
4. Taijuan Walker
5.
RP Kris Medlen
RP
CL Paco Rodriguez

Lineup - Still working on it, not ready yet.

[Skipscards]

Both if not busy, why not? :cool:

Still a work in progress of course, but so far:

Kansas City Royals:

C Wil Myers (23-29)
1B Eric Hosmer (25-31)
2B
SS Jeong-ho Kang (27-33)
3B
LF Alex Gordon (30-36)
CF Joc Pederson (22-28)
RF Juan Lagares (25-31)
DH Nelson Cruz (34-40)

Rotation:
1. Danny Duffy (25-31)
2. Collin McHugh (27-33)
3. Derek Holland (28-34)
4. Brandon Finnegan (21-27 Could end up in the bullpen depending on my next few picks)
5.
RP
RP
CL Wade Davis (29-35)

[Skipscards]

Atlanta Braves

C - Russell Martin
1B - Jose Abreu
2B - Ian Kinsler
SS - Martin Prado
3B - Gavin Cecchini
LF - Brett Gardner
CF - Mookie Betts
RF

Rotation:
1. Masahiro Tanaka
2. Alex Wood
3. Jered Weaver
4. Taijuan Walker
5.
RP Kris Medlen
RP
CL Paco Rodriguez

Lineup - Still working on it, not ready yet.

I'd like this better if Medlen were the #5 starter. :devil:

Seriously though, I like it. The rotation is strong (as you would expect from a Braves team). I really like the Cecchini pick...great value for when you got him. Martin, Abreu, etc....like that too.

[exitmusicblue]

D2R, I like both the lineup (good mix of all the WAR components) and rotation, although the bullpen willl raise some eyebrows.

Skip, knowledgeable folks will really appreciate the lesser known names, and it helps that KC players got a lot of coverage. We'll see if it translates into enough votes !

[death2redemptions]

I'd like this better if Medlen were the #5 starter. :devil:

Seriously though, I like it. The rotation is strong (as you would expect from a Braves team). I really like the Cecchini pick...great value for when you got him. Martin, Abreu, etc....like that too.

Thanks but I actually like him in the bullpen because all of the good consistent relief pitchers have been taken however there are still some good young starting pitchers out there. I don't know if Medlen will be put in the bullpen or used as a starter when he comes back mid season 2015 but since he has success in both roles I figure it is win/win for me.

[Skipscards]

Thanks but I actually like him in the bullpen because all of the good consistent relief pitchers have been taken however there are still some good young starting pitchers out there. I don't know if Medlen will be put in the bullpen or used as a starter when he comes back mid season 2015 but since he has success in both roles I figure it is win/win for me.

I know, I'm just busting your chops. Screw "science".

[Skipscards]

D2R, I like both the lineup (good mix of all the WAR components) and rotation, although the bullpen willl raise some eyebrows.

Skip, knowledgeable folks will really appreciate the lesser known names, and it helps that KC players got a lot of coverage. We'll see if it translates into enough votes !

Thanks. I figure my Royals won the AL Pennant and I've upgraded some of the key positions offensively while still maintaining the spirit of great defense.

[death2redemptions]

D2R, I like both the lineup (good mix of all the WAR components) and rotation, although the bullpen willl raise some eyebrows.

Skip, knowledgeable folks will really appreciate the lesser known names, and it helps that KC players got a lot of coverage. We'll see if it translates into enough votes !

Thanks. Well, that is what happens when you wait until the very end to pick relief pitchers but I think Medlen is a very solid name for the bullpen since he has had success in both the starting rotation and in the bullpen. I think voters will appreciate that. As for Paco, yeah well, like I said, when you wait until the very end to pick a relief pitcher all the good closers are gone and you have to compromise.

[atoaz12]

Pittsburgh Pirates

C - Yadier Molina
1B - Brandon Belt
2B - Jonathan Schoop
SS - Jordy Mercer
3B - Pedro Alvarez
OF - Carlos Gomez
OF - Lorenzo Cain
OF - Scott Van Slyke

SP - Corey Kluber
SP - Lance Lynn
SP - Matt Moore
SP - Jeremy Hellickson
SP -
RP - Eric O'Flaherty
RP -
CL - Jonathan Papelbon

[exitmusicblue]

Pittsburgh Pirates

C - Yadier Molina
1B - Brandon Belt
2B - Jonathan Schoop
SS - Jordy Mercer
3B - Pedro Alvarez
OF - Carlos Gomez
OF - Lorenzo Cain
OF - Scott Van Slyke

SP - Corey Kluber
SP - Lance Lynn
SP - Matt Moore
SP -
SP -
RP -
RP -
CL - Jonathan Papelbon

Steady all around with no overt weaknesses, but will it have enough oomph to win it all?

[enbambam6986]

Let's see yours, dood :D

Nah chillll lol. Going to the Barclays right now

[exitmusicblue]

Nah chillll lol. Going to the Barclays right now

:devil: toodles !

[death2redemptions]

Nah chillll lol. Going to the Barclays right now

I don't believe I've ever seen yours before...let's see it so we can do the same ball busting you do to us! :D

[enbambam6986]

I don't believe I've ever seen yours before...let's see it so we can do the same ball busting you do to us! :D

Hanley is my 2B...enough said

[exitmusicblue]

I don't believe I've ever seen yours before...let's see it so we can do the same ball busting you do to us! :D

we can do a quick looksie ourselves by going to the latest draft order page and doing Fimd searches for Angels... :D

[death2redemptions]

we can do a quick looksie ourselves by going to the latest draft order page and doing Fimd searches for Angels... :D

Eh, too much work.

I would like to see it though

[exitmusicblue]

Hanley is my 2B...enough said

Ahhh that's right, this was the prospect heavy team :p with vets like Josh Hamilton and Billy Butler, muahahaha..

Bundy and Bradley won't be hard to dissect, but Kris Bryant was a great pickup, as BO worships him and sacrifices animals in his name.

[death2redemptions]

Ahhh that's right, this was the prospect heavy team :p with vets like Josh Hamilton and Billy Butler, muahahaha..

Bundy and Bradley won't be hard to dissect, but Kris Bryant was a great pickup, as BO worships him and sacrifices animals in his name.

So you know it? Can you put it up?

And yes, Bryant will win lots of votes, he is BO's Golden God

[exitmusicblue]

So you know it? Can you put it up?

And yes, Bryant will win lots of votes, he is BO's Golden God

it's like (not in order picked) Castro Sandoval Chapman J. Hamilton Bryant Bundy Bradley Butler and a few more lol

[Skipscards]

So you know it? Can you put it up?

And yes, Bryant will win lots of votes, he is BO's Golden God

This is what I see for the Angels. But bambam has a plan so take this with a grain of salt:

Los Angeles Angels-- Billy Butler, 1B
Los Angeles Angels-- Hanley Ramirez, 2B
Los Angeles Angels-- Starlin Castro, SS
Los Angeles Angels-- Pablo Sandoval, 3B
Los Angeles Angels-- Kris Bryant, OF1
Los Angeles Angels-- Austin Jackson, OF2
Los Angeles Angels-- Josh Hamilton, DH
Los Angeles Angels-- Hyun Jin Ryu, SP1
Los Angeles Angels-- Archie Bradley, SP2
Los Angeles Angels-- Dylan Bundy, SP3
Los Angeles Angels-- Kyle Hendricks, SP4
Los Angeles Angels-- Aroldis Chapman, CL

[exitmusicblue]

This is what I see for the Angels. But bambam has a plan so take this with a grain of salt:

Los Angeles Angels-- Billy Butler, 1B
Los Angeles Angels-- Hanley Ramirez, 2B
Los Angeles Angels-- Starlin Castro, SS
Los Angeles Angels-- Pablo Sandoval, 3B
Los Angeles Angels-- Kris Bryant, OF1
Los Angeles Angels-- Austin Jackson, OF2
Los Angeles Angels-- Josh Hamilton, DH
Los Angeles Angels-- Hyun Jin Ryu, SP1
Los Angeles Angels-- Archie Bradley, SP2
Los Angeles Angels-- Dylan Bundy, SP3
Los Angeles Angels-- Kyle Hendricks, SP4
Los Angeles Angels-- Aroldis Chapman, CL

Best plan of attack is to hit his very unproven rotation :devil: even staff ace Ryu only has two MLB seasons...

[enbambam6986]

This is what I see for the Angels. But bambam has a plan so take this with a grain of salt:

Los Angeles Angels-- Billy Butler, 1B
Los Angeles Angels-- Hanley Ramirez, 2B
Los Angeles Angels-- Starlin Castro, SS
Los Angeles Angels-- Pablo Sandoval, 3B
Los Angeles Angels-- Kris Bryant, OF1
Los Angeles Angels-- Austin Jackson, OF2
Los Angeles Angels-- Josh Hamilton, DH
Los Angeles Angels-- Hyun Jin Ryu, SP1
Los Angeles Angels-- Archie Bradley, SP2
Los Angeles Angels-- Dylan Bundy, SP3
Los Angeles Angels-- Kyle Hendricks, SP4
Los Angeles Angels-- Aroldis Chapman, CL

Wow, now that's a team

[death2redemptions]

This is what I see for the Angels. But bambam has a plan so take this with a grain of salt:

Los Angeles Angels-- Billy Butler, 1B
Los Angeles Angels-- Hanley Ramirez, 2B
Los Angeles Angels-- Starlin Castro, SS
Los Angeles Angels-- Pablo Sandoval, 3B
Los Angeles Angels-- Kris Bryant, OF1
Los Angeles Angels-- Austin Jackson, OF2
Los Angeles Angels-- Josh Hamilton, DH
Los Angeles Angels-- Hyun Jin Ryu, SP1
Los Angeles Angels-- Archie Bradley, SP2
Los Angeles Angels-- Dylan Bundy, SP3
Los Angeles Angels-- Kyle Hendricks, SP4
Los Angeles Angels-- Aroldis Chapman, CL

Not a bad mix of young and veteran talent although there is a lot of unproven talent in your rotation. On the other hand at least you won't have any pitchers in their mid 30's in the final couple seasons.

[lambeauleap87]

Here's where I'm at...

Catcher - Mike Zunino (7)
First Baseman - Logan Morrison (13)
Second Baseman - Neil Walker (5)
Shortstop - Elvis Andrus (6)
Third Baseman - Manny Machado (2)
Left Fielder - George Springer (3)
Center Fielder - Ender Inciarte (10)
Right Fielder - Oswaldo Arcia (12)
Designated Hitter -
Starter #1 - Jose Fernandez (1)
Starter #2 - Phil Hughes (4)
Starter #3 - Yovani Gallardo (8)
Starter #4 - Patrick Corbin (9)
Starter #5 -
Reliever #1 -
Reliever #2 -
Closer - Jake McGee (11)

[enbambam6986]

#MicrosoftExcelSkillz
Arizona Diamondbacks: Dustin Pedroia (2B)
Arizona Diamondbacks: Homer Bailey (SP)
Arizona Diamondbacks: Jhonny Peralta (SS)
Arizona Diamondbacks: Joey Votto (1B)
Arizona Diamondbacks: Jonathan Niese (SP)
Arizona Diamondbacks: Kenta Maeda (SP)
Arizona Diamondbacks: Kevin Plawecki
Arizona Diamondbacks: Matt Garza (SP)
Arizona Diamondbacks: Mike Trout (CF)
Arizona Diamondbacks: Ryan Braun (OF)
Arizona Diamondbacks: Shohei Otani (SP)
Arizona Diamondbacks: Starling Marte (LF)
Arizona Diamondbacks: Yulieski Gourriel (3B)

Atlanta Braves: Alex Wood (SP)
Atlanta Braves: Brett Gardner (OF)
Atlanta Braves: Garin Cecchini (3B)
Atlanta Braves: Ian Kinsler (2B)
Atlanta Braves: Jered Weaver (SP)
Atlanta Braves: Jose Abreu (1B)
Atlanta Braves: Kris Medlen (SP)
Atlanta Braves: Martin Prado (SS)
Atlanta Braves: Masahiro Tanaka (SP)
Atlanta Braves: Mookie Betts (2B)
Atlanta Braves: Paco Rodriguez (RP/CL)
Atlanta Braves: Russell Martin (C)
Atlanta Braves: Taijuan Walker (SP)

Baltimore Orioles: Addison Reed (CL)
Baltimore Orioles: Brock Holt (SS)
Baltimore Orioles: Bud Norris (SP)
Baltimore Orioles: Christian Yelich (OF)
Baltimore Orioles: Cody Asche (3B)
Baltimore Orioles: Freddie Freeman (1B)
Baltimore Orioles: Gregory Polanco (OF)
Baltimore Orioles: Howie Kendrick (2B)
Baltimore Orioles: Mark Trumbo (OF)
Baltimore Orioles: Shelby Miller (SP)
Baltimore Orioles: Tony Cingrani (SP)
Baltimore Orioles: Yu Darvish (SP)
Baltimore Orioles: Yusmeiro Petit (RP)

Boston Red Sox: Charlie Blackmon (OF)
Boston Red Sox: Chris Archer (SP)
Boston Red Sox: Dayan Viciedo (OF)
Boston Red Sox: Gio Gonzalez (SP)
Boston Red Sox: Ian Kennedy (SP)
Boston Red Sox: Jose Iglesias (SS)
Boston Red Sox: Josh Harrison (2B)
Boston Red Sox: Madison Bumgarner(SP)
Boston Red Sox: Matt Wieters (C)
Boston Red Sox: Steve Cishek (RP/CL)
Boston Red Sox: Trevor Pluoffe (3B/1B)
Boston Red Sox: Tyler Clippard (RP)
Boston Red Sox:Justin Upton (OF)

Chicago Cubs: Carlos Carrasco (SP)
Chicago Cubs: Corey Seager (SS)
Chicago Cubs: Daniel Norris (SP)
Chicago Cubs: DJ Peterson (3B)
Chicago Cubs: Henderson Alvarez (SP)
Chicago Cubs: Jon Jay (OF)
Chicago Cubs: Jose Altuve (2B)
Chicago Cubs: Kevin Quackenbush (RP)
Chicago Cubs: Khris Davis (OF)
Chicago Cubs: Tony Watson (RP)
Chicago Cubs: Travis d'Arnaud (C)
Chicago Cubs: Yasmany Tomas (RF)
Chicago Cubs: Yordano Ventura (SP)

Chicago White Sox: Adeiny Hechavarria(SS)
Chicago White Sox: Adrian Gonzalez (1B)
Chicago White Sox: Bryan Shaw (RP)
Chicago White Sox: Buster Posey (C)
Chicago White Sox: Emilio Bonifacio (2B)
Chicago White Sox: J.D. Martinez (LF)
Chicago White Sox: Joe Kelly (SP)
Chicago White Sox: Nick Castellanos (3B)
Chicago White Sox: Nick Markakis (OF)
Chicago White Sox: Rick Porcello (SP)
Chicago White Sox: Wei-Yen Chen (SP)
Chicago White Sox: Zach Britton (CL)
Chicago White Sox: Zack Greinke (SP)

Cincinatti Reds: Yasmani Grandal (C)
Cincinatti Reds: Yoervis Molina (RP)
Cincinnati Red: Jacob DeGrom (SP)
Cincinnati Reds : Adam Eaton (CF)
Cincinnati Reds: AJ Griffin (SP)
Cincinnati Reds: Brandon Crawford (SS)
Cincinnati Reds: Carlos Gonzalez(OF)
Cincinnati Reds: Danny Salazar (SP)
Cincinnati Reds: Drew Pomeranz
Cincinnati Reds: Jake Arrieta (SP)
Cincinnati Reds: Joe Panik (2B)
Cincinnati Reds: Jose Bautista (OF)
Cincinnati Reds: Marcell Ozuna (OF)

Cleveland Indans: Yovani Gallardo (SP)
Cleveland Indians: Elvis Andrus (SS)
Cleveland Indians: Ender Inciarte (OF)
Cleveland Indians: George Springer (OF)
Cleveland Indians: Jake McGee (CL)
Cleveland Indians: Jose Fernandez (SP)
Cleveland Indians: Logan Morrison (1B)
Cleveland Indians: Manny Machado (3B)
Cleveland Indians: Mike Zunino (C)
Cleveland Indians: Neil Walker (2B)
Cleveland Indians: Oswaldo Arcia (OF)
Cleveland Indians: Patrick Corbin (SP)
Cleveland Indians: Phil Hughes (SP)

Colorado Rockies: Alex Avila (C)
Colorado Rockies: Alex Meyer (SP)
Colorado Rockies: Brian Dozier (2B)
Colorado Rockies: Chros Tillman (SP)
Colorado Rockies: Danny Santana(SS)
Colorado Rockies: Gerrit Cole (SP)
Colorado Rockies: Hector Rondon (CL)
Colorado Rockies: Jackie Bradley Jr (OF)
Colorado Rockies: Jeurys Familia (RP)
Colorado Rockies: Josh Reddick (OF)
Colorado Rockies: Kenny's Vargas (1B)
Colorado Rockies: Miguel Cabrera (1B)
Colorado Rockies: Mike Leake (SP)

Detroit Tigers: Alex Cobb (SP)
Detroit Tigers: Andrew Miller (RP)
Detroit Tigers: Anibal Sanchez (SP)
Detroit Tigers: Bryce Harper (OF)
Detroit Tigers: Daniel Murphy (2B)
Detroit Tigers: David Wright (3B)
Detroit Tigers: Jason Castro (C)
Detroit Tigers: Jed Lowrie (SS)
Detroit Tigers: Jon Lester (SP)
Detroit Tigers: Julio Urias (SP)
Detroit Tigers: Mark Melancon (RP/CL)
Detroit Tigers: Matt Carpenter (3B)
Detroit Tigers: Clint Frazier (OF)

Houston Astos: Rob Kaminsky (SP)
Houston Astros Yoenis Cespedes (OF)
Houston Astros: Carlos Martinez (SP)
Houston Astros: Chad Billingsley (SP)
Houston Astros: Chris Owings (2B/SS)
Houston Astros: Cliff Lee (SP)
Houston Astros: Evan Gattis (C)
Houston Astros: Giancarlo Stanton (RF)
Houston Astros: Jean Segura (SS)
Houston Astros: Joey Gallo (3B)
Houston Astros: Maikel Franco (3B)
Houston Astros: Matt Kemp (OF)
Houston Astros: Robert Stephenson (SP)

Kansas City Royals: Alex Gordon (LF)
Kansas City Royals: Brandon Finnegan (P)
Kansas City Royals: Collin McHugh (SP)[/QUOTE]
Kansas City Royals: Danny Duffy (SP)
Kansas City Royals: Derek Holland (SP)
Kansas City Royals: Eric Hosmer (1B)
Kansas City Royals: Jeong-ho Kang (SS)
Kansas City Royals: Joc Pederson (OF)
Kansas City Royals: Juan Lagares (OF)
Kansas City Royals: Nelson Cruz (DH)
Kansas City Royals: Wade Davis (RP)
Kansas City Royals: Wil Myers (OF)
Kansas City Royals: Brett Cecil (RP)

Los Angeles Angels: Archie Bradley (SP)
Los Angeles Angels: Aroldis Chapman (CL)
Los Angeles Angels: Austin Jackson
Los Angeles Angels: Billy Butler(DH)
Los Angeles Angels: Dylan Bundy (SP)
Los Angeles Angels: Hanley Ramirez (SS)
Los Angeles Angels: Hyun Jin Ryu (SP)
Los Angeles Angels: Josh Hamilton (DH)
Los Angeles Angels: Kris Bryant (3B)
Los Angeles Angels: Kyle Hendricks (SP)
Los Angeles Angels: Starlin Castro (SS)
Los Angels Angeles: Pablo Sandoval (3B/1B/DH)
Los Angeles Angels: Adam Warren (RP)
Los Angeles Angels: David Dahl (OF)

Los Angeles Dodgers: Brett Lawrie (3B)
Los Angeles Dodgers: Chris Carter (1B)
Los Angeles Dodgers: Hisashi Iwakuma (SP)
Los Angeles Dodgers: James Shields (SP)
Los Angeles Dodgers: Kyle Schwarber (C)
Los Angeles Dodgers: Peter Bourjos (OF)
Los Angeles Dodgers: Robinson Cano (2B)
Los Angeles Dodgers: Ryan Zimmerman (OF)
Los Angeles Dodgers: Stephen Strasburg (SP)
Los Angeles Dodgers: Tyson Ross (SP)
LA Dodgers: Dee Gordon (SS)
LA Dodgers: Zack Wheeler (RHP)
Los Angeles Dodgers: Rubby De La Rosa (RP)

Miami Marlins: Austin Hedges (C)
Miami Marlins: Brandon Moss (1B)
Miami Marlins: Edwin Encarnacion (1B)
Miami Marlins: Eric Sogard (2B)
Miami Marlins: Felix Doubront(P)
Miami Marlins: Gregor Blanco (OF)
Miami Marlins: Ian Desmond (SS)
Miami Marlins: Josh Donaldson (3B)
Miami Marlins: Lucas Giolito (SP)
Miami Marlins: Micah Johnson (2B)
Miami Marlins: Nick Williams (RF)
Miami Marlins: Noah Syndergaard (SP)
Miami Marlins: Tyler Glasnow (SP)

Milwaukee Brewers: AJ Ramos (RP)
Milwaukee Brewers: Anthony Rendon (2B/3B)
Milwaukee Brewers: Arismendy Alcantara (OF)
Milwaukee Brewers: Chris Davis (1B)
Milwaukee Brewers: Christian Bethancourt (C)
Milwaukee Brewers: Francisco Liriano (SP)
Milwaukee Brewers: James Paxton (SP)
Milwaukee Brewers: Jeff Samardzija (SP)
Milwaukee Brewers: Jorge Soler (OF)
Milwaukee Brewers: Matt Duffy (SS)
Milwaukee Brewers: Melky Cabrera (OF)
Milwaukee Brewers: Nolan Arenado (3B)
Milwaukee Brewers: Rafael Montero (SP)

Minnesota Twins: Andrelton Simmons (SS)
Minnesota Twins: Andrew McCutchen (CF)
Minnesota Twins: Asdrubal Cabrera (2B/SS)
Minnesota Twins: Carl Crawford (OF)
Minnesota Twins: Glen Perkins (RP/CL)
Minnesota Twins: Justin Masterson (SP)
Minnesota Twins: Justin Morneau (1B)
Minnesota Twins: Justin Verlander (SP)
Minnesota Twins: Luke Gregerson (RP)
Minnesota Twins: Michael Wacha (SP)
Minnesota Twins: Miguel Sano (3B)
Minnesota Twins: Mike Minor (SP)
Minnesota Twins: Wilson Ramos (C)

New York Mets: Aaron Sanchez (SP)
New York Mets: Alexander Guerrero (3B)
New York Mets: Anthony Rizzo (1B)
New York Mets: Carlos Santana (C)
New York Mets: Dexter Fowler (OF)
New York Mets: Drew Storen (RP)
New York Mets: Jordan Zimmerman (SP)
New York Mets: Kolten Wong (2B)
New York Mets: Luis Severino (SP)
New York Mets: Matt Cain (SP)
New York Mets: Shin Soo Choo (OF)
New York Mets: Xander Bogaerts (SS)
NY Mets: Steven Souza (OF)

New York Yankees: Byron Buxton (OF)
New York Yankees: CJ Cron (1B)
New York Yankees: Corey Dickerson (OF)
New York Yankees: Henry Owens (SP)
New York Yankees: Jenrry Mejia (RP)
New York Yankees: Jonathan Gray (SP)
New York Yankees: Jurickson Profar (2B)
New York Yankees: Mark Appel (SP)
New York Yankees: Matt Davidson (3B)
New York Yankees: Matt Harvey (SP)
New York Yankees: Michael Pineda (SP)
New York Yankees: Troy Tulowitski (SS)
New York Yankees: Wilin Rosario (C)

Oakland Athletics: Albert Almora (OF)
Oakland Athletics: Brian McCann (C)
Oakland Athletics: Christian Colon (2B)
Oakland Athletics: Doug Fister (SP)
Oakland Athletics: Drew Stubbs (OF)
Oakland Athletics: Francisco Lindor (SS)
Oakland Athletics: Huston Street (CL)
Oakland Athletics: Jacoby Ellsbury (OF)
Oakland Athletics: Kyle Seager (3B)
Oakland Athletics: Lucas Duda (1B)
Oakland Athletics: Matt Shoemaker (SP)
Oakland Athletics: Sonny Gray (SP)
Oakland Athletics: Trevor Bauer (SP)

Philadelphia Phillies : Jordan Walden
Philadelphia Phillies: Aaron Nola (SP)
Philadelphia Phillies: AJ Pollock (OF)
Philadelphia Phillies: Albert Pujols (1B)
Philadelphia Phillies: Carlos Correa (SS)
Philadelphia Phillies: Carlos Rodon (SP)
Philadelphia Phillies: Cole Hamels (SP)
Philadelphia Phillies: Felix Hernandez (SP)
Philadelphia Phillies: Gary Sanchez (C)
Philadelphia Phillies: Kenny Giles (RP/CL)
Philadelphia Phillies: Kevin Gausman (SP)
Philadelphia Phillies: Rougned Odor (2B)
Philadelphia Phillies: Rusney Castillo (OF)

Pittsburgh Pirates: Brandon Belt (1B)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Carlos Gomez (CF)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Corey Kluber (SP)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Jeremy Hellickson (SP)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Jonathan Papelbon (CL)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Jonathan Schoop (2B)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Jordy Mercer (SS)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Lance Lynn (SP)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Lorenzo Cain (RF)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Matt Moore (SP)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Pedro Alvarez (3B)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Scott Van Slyke (OF)
Pittsburgh Pirates: Yadier Molina (C)

San Diego Padres: Alfredo Despaigne (OF)
San Diego Padres: Avisail Garcia (RF)
San Diego Padres: Colby Rasmus (OF)
San Diego Padres: Evereth Cabrera (2B)
San Diego Padres: Garret Richards (SP)
San Diego Padres: Jedd Gyorko (2B)
San Diego Padres: Johnny Cueto (SP)
San Diego Padres: Kelvin Herrera (RP)
San Diego Padres: Marcus Stroman (SP)
San Diego Padres: Paul Goldschmidt(1B)
San Diego Padres: Pedro Strop (RP)
San Diego Padres: Salvador Perez (C)
San Diego Padres: Wily Peralta (SP)

San Francisco Giants: Adrian Beltre (3B)
San Francisco Giants: Ben Revere (CF)
San Francisco Giants: Craig Kimbrel(RP)
San Francisco Giants: Dallas Keuchel (SP)
San Francisco Giants: Darren O'Day (RP)
San Francisco Giants: DJ LeMahieu(2B)
San Francisco Giants: Edinson Volquez (SP)
San Francisco Giants: JJ Hardy (SS)
San Francisco Giants: Kole Calhoun (RF)
San Francisco Giants: Kurt Suzuki (C)
San Francisco Giants: Lonnie Chisenhall (1B)
San Francisco Giants: Mat Latos (RHP)
San Francisco Giants: Matt Holliday (OF)

Seattle Mariners : Javier Baez (SS)
Seattle Mariners: Blake Swihart (C)
Seattle Mariners: Denard Span (CF)
Seattle Mariners: Jarrod Parker (SP)
Seattle Mariners: Jason Heyward (RF)
Seattle Mariners: Jon Singleton (1B)
Seattle Mariners: Max Scherzer (SP)
Seattle Mariners: Michael Taylor (OF)
Seattle Mariners: Nathan Eovaldi (SP)
Seattle Mariners: Neftali Feliz (CP)
Seattle Mariners: Scooter Gennett (2B)
Seattle Mariners: Tommy Medica (3B)
Seattle Mariners: Wade Miley(SP)

St Louis Cardinals: Brad Boxberger (CL)
St Louis Cardinals: Desmond Jennings (OF)
St Louis Cardinals: Drew Hutchison (SP)
St Louis Cardinals: Stephen Piscotty (OF)
St. Louis Cardinals : Adam Wainwright SP
St. Louis Cardinals Devin Mesoraco (C)
St. Louis Cardinals: Alcides Escobar (SS)
St. Louis Cardinals: Allen Craig (OF)
St. Louis Cardinals: Evan Longoria (3B)
St. Louis Cardinals: Jose Peraza (2B)
St. Louis Cardinals: Matt Adams (1B)
St. Louis Cardinals: Tanner Roark (SP)
St. Louis Cardinals : Kyle Gibson (SP)

Tampa Bay Rays: Addison Russell (SS)
Tampa Bay Rays: Ben Zobrist (2B)
Tampa Bay Rays: David Robertson (CL)
Tampa Bay Rays: Hunter Pence (OF)
Tampa Bay Rays: Jean Machi (RP)
Tampa Bay Rays: Jonathan Lucroy (C)
Tampa Bay Rays: Jose Quintana (SP)
Tampa Bay Rays: Josh Collmenter (SP)
Tampa Bay Rays: Julio Teheran (SP)
Tampa Bay Rays: Mike Fiers (SP)
Tampa Bay Rays: Mike Moustakas (3B)
Tampa Bay Rays: Mike Napoli (1B)
Tampa Bay Rays: Yasiel Puig (OF)

Texas Rangers: Clayton Kershaw (P)
Texas Rangers: Cody Allen (CL)
Texas Rangers: Cory Spangenberg (2B)
Texas Rangers: Drew Smyly (SP)
Texas Rangers: Hunter Harvey (SP)
Texas Rangers: Jake Odorizzi (SP)
Texas Rangers: Jarred Cosart (SP)
Texas Rangers: Jorge Alfaro (C)
Texas Rangers: Leonys Martin (OF)
Texas Rangers: Michael Brantley (OF)
Texas Rangers: Prince Fielder (1B)
Texas Rangers: Todd Frazier (3B)
Texas Rangers: Yoan Moncada (2B/SS)

Toronto Blue Jays: Andrew Cashner (SP)
Toronto Blue Jays: Chris Sale(SP)
Toronto Blue Jays: Connor Gillaspie (3B)
Toronto Blue Jays: David Price (SP)
Toronto Blue Jays: Dellin Betances (RP)
Toronto Blue Jays: Dustin Ackley (2B)
Toronto Blue Jays: Erick Aybar (SS)
Toronto Blue Jays: Ervin Santana (SP)
Toronto Blue Jays: Greg Holland (CL)
Toronto Blue Jays: Jayson Werth (OF)
Toronto Blue Jays: Joe Mauer (1B)
Toronto Blue Jays: Joe Smith (RP)
Toronto Blue Jays: Yan Gomes (C)

Washington Nationals, Jay Bruce (OF)
Washington Nationals: Adam Jones (OF)
Washington Nationals: Billy Hamilton (OF)
Washington Nationals: Brandon McCarthy(SP)
Washington Nationals: Derek Norris (C)
Washington Nationals: Eddie Butler (SP)
Washington Nationals: Jason Kipnis (2B)
Washington Nationals: Jose Reyes (SS)
Washington Nationals: Kenley Jansen (RP)
Washington Nationals: Scott Kazmir (SP)
Washington Nationals: Sean Doolittle (RP/CL)
Washington Nationals: Trevor Rosenthal (RP)
Washington Nationals: Marco Gonzales (SP)
Washington Nationals: Andrew Heaney (SP)

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Are you kiddin' me enbambam, this is great !

[death2redemptions]

That was awesome enbambam! That must have taken a while to put together.

[enbambam6986]

Took me 3 minutes lol. I had to find a forumla to delete the 1.(1,1) garbage

[SportsAutoFreak]

I'm thinking of bending against taking a prospect.

[Skipscards]

Took me 3 minutes lol. I had to find a forumla to delete the 1.(1,1) garbage

Text To Columns, man. Works every time.

[jewcer2k5]

Washington Nationals

Player (AGE at start of 2015 season)[WAR in 2014]

C - Norris - (26)[2.5]
1b - Steve Pearce - (31)[4.9] {4.9 WAR in the 2nd to last round, yes please}
2b - Kipnis - (27)[1.0] {what a down year}
3b - Jake Lamb - (24)[0.0] {nice young power hitting 3b that is a stud with the leather...lineup strong enough to let him hit in the bottom half and develop}
SS - Reyes - (31)[3.3]
OF - Billy Hamilton - (24)[3.5]
OF - Bruce - (27)[-1.1] {4 previous years averaged 3.5}
OF - Adam Jones - (29)[5.4]
DH

SP - Kazmir - (31)[3.3]
SP - Brandon McCarthy - (31)[3.0]
SP - Eddie Butler - (24)[0.0]{had some decent starts, will need to prove he can K guys at the MLB level)
SP - Andrew Heaney - (23)[-.4] - Top left handed SP in the minors heading into the 2014 season. Already made MLB debut will be there all 7 years.
SP - Marco Gonzales - (23)[-.1] - See above.
RP - Rosenthal - (24)[1.0]
RP - Doolittle - (28)[2.4]
CL - Jansen - (27)[2.0]
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[ageofreason13]

As critical as I've been of Jewcer I'd put him in the top 5 after seeing everyone's team spelled out like that.

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Halos concerned me until I realized they have no C.

[chansen10]

Rangers Dbacks braves brewers Os padres in no specific order but like those teams a lot