Panini replacement for Kaepernick 1/1 from Flawless - they delivered

[BigSeph]

So everyone knows by now about the whole kerfluffle involving Flawless FB and some patches. I think this is one of the best FB products to ever be produced, and I think a lot of people are excessively critical of it.

So I got this card in a GB, saw Kaep was on the checklist of mixed-up patches, and got ahold of David Sharp with Panini. Sent the card in, was about 2-3 weeks, and he calls yesterday and said the card is being overnighted to me.

I can't praise the customer service experience with any card company more than the past couple of weeks with Panini, they stayed in touch with me, gave me updates, and even called me personally when they FedEx overnighted the card.

I'll let the pictures do the talking.

Before:

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n575/BigSeph/Kaep_zps6a5e6e20.jpg

Upon arrival:

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n575/BigSeph/17d8de75-6986-4e6b-b926-f80d4775c560_zps87bbe5af.jpg

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n575/BigSeph/e24d3f3b-4416-4e47-b27e-1374471b8a79_zps0f1de5c5.jpg

After:

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n575/BigSeph/flawlesskaep2_zps215f812f.jpg

Very happy with Panini's customer service, David Sharp handled it like a pro, and I think sometimes as collectors we get caught up in our own expectations and are quick to post critical comments when a company disappoints us, but don't take moments like this to say thank you when a company exceeds our expectations.

[IronMonkey415]

David Sharp is such a lovely man.

[Hawksmack]

David Sharp is a true professional. I have nothing but great things to say about the guy.

[Tvanho]

Its a beautiful card, no doubt.

But whatever, I'll say it even though I know the response. Think of me what you will.

How are we so sure that this one is game used when the other ones weren't? I don't see how you can so blindly defend panini as the good guys and how they "made it right" when they just sent another patch that could very well have the same problems....

Flame guard on.

[geezhound]

Its a beautiful card, no doubt.

But whatever, I'll say it even though I know the response. Think of me what you will.

How are we so sure that this one is game used when the other ones weren't? I don't see how you can so blindly defend panini as the good guys and how they "made it right" when they just sent another patch that could very well have the same problems....

Flame guard on.

I totally get the point you're trying to convey, but as far as Panini CS and David Sharp are concerned, their job was to make the customer happy and they did that and did it well.
That card is awesome!

[BigSeph]

Its a beautiful card, no doubt.

But whatever, I'll say it even though I know the response. Think of me what you will.

How are we so sure that this one is game used when the other ones weren't? I don't see how you can so blindly defend panini as the good guys and how they "made it right" when they just sent another patch that could very well have the same problems....

Flame guard on.

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[freethrowtommy]

That turned out pretty nice... wow!

However, get ready for a 10 page thread here...

[MC80_LCM]

As someone who hasn't paid any attention to the issues with Flawless any chance the issue could be quickly explained?

Also, if you are planning on ever selling, and I don't know if you are, I would save all the documentation of this patch switch. Just in case someone took note of the original patch and wasn't aware that you sent it back to get a new patch.

[Axe]

Its a beautiful card, no doubt.

But whatever, I'll say it even though I know the response. Think of me what you will.

How are we so sure that this one is game used when the other ones weren't? I don't see how you can so blindly defend panini as the good guys and how they "made it right" when they just sent another patch that could very well have the same problems....

Flame guard on.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[smackvay]

Maybe I need to have you send David sharp a message on my behalf as he wont even answer mine about a 3 year old and a 1 year old replacement

[xbignick]

Probably smart for Panini to come out with a release/article saying what they've replaced if those sending in did want to sell the new ones and avoid confusion.

[xavieronly1]

How come I did not see the mistake being corrected? I still see game worn on the label. So confusing....

[BigSeph]

How come I did not see the mistake being corrected? I still see game worn on the label. So confusing....

Panini America CEO Mark Warsop on Tuesday addressed an error within 2014 Flawless Football that led to cards featuring pieces of event-worn jerseys being mistakenly labeled as “game-worn.” The error, an oversight that affected cards of Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick and Alshon Jeffery, was brought to Panini America’s attention on Monday.

The error only impacted the 168 patch cards (56 of each player) in the Patches (numbered to 25), Patches Ruby (numbered to 15), Patches Gold (numbered to 10), Patches Emerald (numbered to five) and Patches Platinum (numbered to one) inserts.
Panini America CEO Addresses Jersey-Card Labeling Errors in 2014 Flawless Football | The Official Panini America Blog (http://paniniamerica.wordpress.com/2014/11/18/panini-america-ceo-addresses-jersey-card-labeling-errors-in-2014-flawless-football/)

The card said "game worn" but the patch was "event worn."

So they put a "game worn" patch in the "game worn" card for me. Actually had to remake the card entirely in my case because the new patch wouldn't fit back in the card.

[bigsmitt92]

nice replacement. I am on the fence about panini and the flawless debacle. It seems to me if you had a regular patch you probably wouldnt be making this thread as it probably wouldnt have been fixed. I am thinking a 1/1 had alot to do with it. still atleast you got it replaced and as long as your happy, that is all that matters and it does look nice.

[Jackg1980]

It is still a great concern that Panini is accused of knowing putting non game used and even fake game used jersey relics in cards since they first started.

Where is the statement about all those fake game used jersey they bought from JO sports cards and other scammers? What they do with all the fake game uses jerseys they had? What did they have to say about the scammers accusing them of knowingly buying fake used jersey from them? What about a statement about the recently discover suspected fake Jim Thorpe jerseys relic cards?

I ask these questions directly and so far not a word from Panini. Hmmmmmm

[anusinha]

and here i am waiting 6 months for a redemption replacement and all they can tell me is that theyre "very busy"

[cruiserdaddy7]

I have one that will be 4 years old in March. Terrible service, as expected.

[BigSeph]

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[tacoma34]

Panini America CEO Addresses Jersey-Card Labeling Errors in 2014 Flawless Football | The Official Panini America Blog (http://paniniamerica.wordpress.com/2014/11/18/panini-america-ceo-addresses-jersey-card-labeling-errors-in-2014-flawless-football/)

The card said "game worn" but the patch was "event worn."

So they put a "game worn" patch in the "game worn" card for me. Actually had to remake the card entirely in my case because the new patch wouldn't fit back in the card.

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Glad you are happy OP, but to call the people that are critical of Panini "haters" is just ignorant. The skepticism for Panini is warranted, whether you choose to believe it or not. You or I have no way to tell if it's a game worn patch, so there is no argument to be made. Their guarantee has been proven to be fraudulent, so from here on out it is up to the collector to interpret what they believe is actually game worn. Be glad you got it replaced and leave it at that.

[Nick2317]

David is a good dude if you are nice and respectful to him he will help you out as much as possible

[BigSeph]

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Glad you are happy OP, but to call the people that are critical of Panini "haters" is just ignorant. The skepticism for Panini is warranted, whether you choose to believe it or not. You or I have no way to tell if it's a game worn patch, so there is no argument to be made. Their guarantee has been proven to be fraudulent, so from here on out it is up to the collector to interpret what they believe is actually game worn. Be glad you got it replaced and leave it at that.

How does this thread give anyone an avenue to criticize Panini?

They went above and beyond, exceeded my expectations, and I'm very happy with their customer service.

People carrying a bunch of chips on their shoulders in here and hating on Panini, it's not ignorant to point out what's happening.

I am glad I got it replaced, I wanted a good story to get out regarding Panini's customer service because no matter how upset someone is about not getting their $0.50 redemption from 2 years ago, it doesn't change the facts of this case.

Panini delivered.

[trixstar]

You keep saying Panini delivered . That's great and honestly I'm happy that you got your card. They delivered on a massive screw up that they wouldn't haven even admitted to until it was found out by collectors on this site. I mean it's great that they fixed your card and you're happy don't get me wrong. I just think saying they "delivered" and "exceeded expectations" is going a bit far.

I'm glad they fixed a massive screw up once they were forced to admit to in the first place.

[IronMonkey415]

Sell it for $2000 and make your money back?

I know I would.

[Tvanho]

How does this thread give anyone an avenue to criticize Panini?

They went above and beyond, exceeded my expectations, and I'm very happy with their customer service.

People carrying a bunch of chips on their shoulders in here and hating on Panini, it's not ignorant to point out what's happening.

I am glad I got it replaced, I wanted a good story to get out regarding Panini's customer service because no matter how upset someone is about not getting their $0.50 redemption from 2 years ago, it doesn't change the facts of this case.

Panini delivered.

The following two bolded statements is what caused me voice my opinion on the topic and gave me an avenue to criticize panini:

So everyone knows by now about the whole kerfluffle involving Flawless FB and some patches. I think this is one of the best FB products to ever be produced, and I think a lot of people are excessively critical of it.

Very happy with Panini's customer service, David Sharp handled it like a pro, and I think sometimes as collectors we get caught up in our own expectations and are quick to post critical comments when a company disappoints us, but don't take moments like this to say thank you when a company exceeds our expectations.

Geezhound has the best post on this thread, reminding us all that as long as you are happy with what you received, that is all that matters in regards to the replacement and I am truly happy for you if you enjoy it.

But when you want to call out those of us that have been excessively critical about such an absolute devastation of a product, you will receive a lot of responses to that effect.

Again, I am happy you received a beautiful replacement that you are content with, it is an absolutely stunning card.

[lionsfan20]

Glad you are happy and in the end that is all that matters... but I don't believe for a second that patch is "game worn". Panini has zero credibility at this point and their word is worth nothing to me and many other collectors. I personally am not touching any Panini Barry Sanders memorabilia cards unless they find a way to be more transparent and somehow prove their products are authentic.

[myerscards]

Is that the same card or another one?

[BigSeph]

Panini said it was a new card, had to be reprinted to fit the patch in the window.

[wheeler281]

Awesome replacement. Well Done

[ejs23]

I think this is one of the best FB products to ever be produced, and I think a lot of people are excessively critical of it.

what the what? :confused:

they got caught trying to pass off fake game-used patches... it's impossible to be excessively critical of that.


I can't praise the customer service experience with any card company more than the past couple of weeks with Panini, they stayed in touch with me, gave me updates, and even called me personally when they FedEx overnighted the card.

this is the equivalent of them paying hush money so people will go away and forget it ever happened.

i'm glad the OP is happy and got something he wanted. it's just crazy to pretend Panini is some kind of hero for doing their best to cover up their own mess. provide that level of customer service to guys who have been waiting years on random redemptions, then maybe they'll deserve some praise.

[BigSeph]

what the what? :confused:

they got caught trying to pass off fake game-used patches... it's impossible to be excessively critical of that.

Have you opened any Flawless, watched any being opened, held a Flawless FB card in your hand this year? Have you seen the sales of singles, have you seen some of the higher-end cards to come out of the product?

It's one of the best products of the year, yes, despite some kid in a mall jewelry store have a guy mash a heat-generating diamond tester on the card he busted out of a holder. Despite the patches on a few cards being put in those cards when they shouldn't have.

Of the entire print run, do you know how much of it was affected by the QC snafu? Not much.

The rest of it's terrific.

I'm not trying to be a Panini fanboy in saying this either, I would have said it a month ago. The cards are nice, tell me a FB product better than Flawless from 2014?


this is the equivalent of them paying hush money so people will go away and forget it ever happened.

i'm glad the OP is happy and got something he wanted. it's just crazy to pretend Panini is some kind of hero for doing their best to cover up their own mess. provide that level of customer service to guys who have been waiting years on random redemptions, then maybe they'll deserve some praise.

Yeah Panini should provide overnight shipping and personal correspondence with people who got a $0.50 redemption out of a retail pack.

Seems like a good use of resources.

[pfb11]

Maybe I need to have you send David sharp a message on my behalf as he wont even answer mine about a 3 year old and a 1 year old replacement

Yea, me too. He said he'd do me a favor "one time" with a replacement a couple years ago and did. He wasn't kidding, though... ignored all future emails from me from that day on.

Nice Kaepernick, though, OP!

[smackvay]

Have you opened any Flawless, watched any being opened, held a Flawless FB card in your hand this year? Have you seen the sales of singles, have you seen some of the higher-end cards to come out of the product?

It's one of the best products of the year, yes, despite some kid in a mall jewelry store have a guy mash a heat-generating diamond tester on the card he busted out of a holder. Despite the patches on a few cards being put in those cards when they shouldn't have.

Of the entire print run, do you know how much of it was affected by the QC snafu? Not much.

The rest of it's terrific.

I'm not trying to be a Panini fanboy in saying this either, I would have said it a month ago. The cards are nice, tell me a FB product better than Flawless from 2014?




Yeah Panini should provide overnight shipping and personal correspondence with people who got a $0.50 redemption out of a retail pack.
Seems like a good use of resources.

Man your reading comprehension skills need work, of all the people that have mentioned replacements in this thread not 1 person has stated a value of any of them. I understand you are more important than other people and I should be honored to post in your thread, but the people that have sent multiple messages to "The David Sharp" while being polite just like you did should also get consideration and communication on our replacements as well.

honored to be here
Mike

[BigSeph]

Man your reading comprehension skills need work, of all the people that have mentioned replacements in this thread not 1 person has stated a value of any of them. I understand you are more important than other people and I should be honored to post in your thread, but the people that have sent multiple messages to "The David Sharp" while being polite just like you did should also get consideration and communication on our replacements as well.

honored to be here
Mike

Beat up that strawman.

I never said people shouldn't get consideration and communication on their replacements.

I'm just putting it out there - Panini delivered.

On this day, on this occasion, for this customer, they delivered.

Grind your axe all you want, it's the internet.

[Clarka3]

if this was a topps snafu and subsequent fix, this thread would be 10 pages long alraedy full of people blowing them saying they are the greatest card company around.


how quickly everyone forgot how badly they were screwed with Chrome...



OP, I'm glad you got the situation worked out and are happy. That is a stellar card to me. Props to David Sharp for proving yet again why Panini CS blows EVERY other card company out of the water.

[freethrowtommy]

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[ejs23]

Have you opened any Flawless, watched any being opened, held a Flawless FB card in your hand this year? Have you seen the sales of singles, have you seen some of the higher-end cards to come out of the product?

hell no, yes, yes, yes and yes.

there are some decent cards in the product, but that doesn't excuse Panini for attempting to scam consumers.

And I'm not overly impressed with singles sales, especially out of a $1,200+ per box product - Bo Jackson /15 for $120, Staubach /5 for $215, Antonio Gates /15 for $17, Roethlisberger /10 for $80, Eric Dickerson /15 for $85... yes I know that sales were better on release and that there are still low numbered big hits selling well, but most cards aren't selling for much more than any other product.


Of the entire print run, do you know how much of it was affected by the QC snafu? Not much.

what you see as a quality control issue, I see as a deliberate attempt to defraud.

Yeah Panini should provide overnight shipping and personal correspondence with people who got a $0.50 redemption out of a retail pack.

Seems like a good use of resources.

why not? why should customer service for Flawless cards be better than CS for any other cards? we already know the answer.... because their lawyers told them to jump through any hoops to fix it.

but we all know this isn't typical Panini CS.

[pudge27t]

Sweet & Congrats!

[lemur01]

Congrats on the nice replacement.

Panini still sucks.

[BirdLaw]

if this was a topps snafu and subsequent fix, this thread would be 10 pages long alraedy full of people blowing them saying they are the greatest card company around.

how quickly everyone forgot how badly they were screwed with Chrome...
Not just that, Topps has had authenticity issues of their own with jerseys in the past.

hell no, yes, yes, yes and yes.

there are some decent cards in the product, but that doesn't excuse Panini for attempting to scam consumers.

And I'm not overly impressed with singles sales, especially out of a $1,200+ per box product - Bo Jackson /15 for $120, Staubach /5 for $215, Antonio Gates /15 for $17, Roethlisberger /10 for $80, Eric Dickerson /15 for $85... yes I know that sales were better on release and that there are still low numbered big hits selling well, but most cards aren't selling for much more than any other product.

what you see as a quality control issue, I see as a deliberate attempt to defraud.

why not? why should customer service for Flawless cards be better than CS for any other cards? we already know the answer.... because their lawyers told them to jump through any hoops to fix it.

but we all know this isn't typical Panini CS.

We get it. You hate Panini with every fiber of your being. It's getting a bit...overzealous at this point.

[rcearley]

Not just that, Topps has had authenticity issues of their own with jerseys in the past.

The past must not have been that long ago ;) This from Dynasty with an Angels patch on the Wade Boggs card.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/806073-trade-alert-per-topps-yanks-trade-wade-boggs-angels.html

[trixstar]

Does Clarka work for Panini?

[Athey49]

Great looking card!

[BirdLaw]

Does Clarka work for Panini?

Topps and Panini are two sides of the same coin

[trixstar]

Topps and Panini are two sides of the same coin

Just make it a 3 sided dice and add Upper Deck. They all have made/do make/ and will continue to F up

[xavieronly1]

Just make it a 3 sided dice and add Upper Deck. They all have made/do make/ and will continue to F up

And people still suck on that side of dirty coin. What else to expect from these companies when we have no problem spending money on them.

[lemur01]

Topps and Panini are two sides of the same coin

At least topps has attractive designs. I just don't understand why people continue to buy panini products.

Jmo.

[wagoss122]

At least topps has attractive designs. I just don't understand why people continue to buy panini products.

Jmo.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/6a34be8f6d76e0b364faab27f7b9c6d6/tumblr_nc088uvdga1tgkjz9o1_1280.jpg

[lemur01]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/6a34be8f6d76e0b364faab27f7b9c6d6/tumblr_nc088uvdga1tgkjz9o1_1280.jpg

Lol.

Everyone is being so undude in this thread.

[USC is better]

Yeah Panini should provide overnight shipping and personal correspondence with people who got a $0.50 redemption out of a retail pack.

Seems like a good use of resources.

Beat up that strawman.


Hah, perhaps you should take your own advice...

Cool card, and if you're happy with it (and you've made it abundantly clear that your are), that's really all that matters. But you're coming off as pretty condescending to all of the "haterrrrzzz"

I guess you're just tryin' to be like Kaep himself, eh?

http://cdn.na16.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/kaepernick-haters.jpg

[BigSeph]

Not trying to be condescending, just don't understand all the Panini hate.

This thread is about Panini getting it right.

[lemur01]

You are failing to see the big picture.

You act like they did you this big favor. 100 percent good quality is expected on high end releases. They did not deliver.

Still kewl you got the nice replacement. :)

And panini still sucks.

[BigSeph]

You are failing to see the big picture.

You act like they did you this big favor. 100 percent good quality is expected on high end releases. They did not deliver.

Still kewl you got the nice replacement. :)

And panini still sucks.

Then Topps sucks for some screwups with Supreme patches, and UD sucks for all the redemptions in The Cup.

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[Tvanho]

I'm just gonna keep posting to see how many more gifs you have ready :)

[56chev]

Not trying to be condescending, just don't understand all the Panini hate.

This thread is about Panini getting it right.

You may not be "trying" to be condescending, but you are, A LOT. It's annoying.

How do you not understand the "Panini Hate"? They basically gave you hush money for a large issue and now you're a Panini Fan Boy.

This Flawless issue was not a "QC screwup" it was a BIG issue, people are fired up by it (rightly so). It's hard for people to see you get a reacharound and then beat the Panini is great drum.

[BirdLaw]

You may not be "trying" to be condescending, but you are, A LOT. It's annoying.

How do you not understand the "Panini Hate"? They basically gave you hush money for a large issue and now you're a Panini Fan Boy.

This Flawless issue was not a "QC screwup" it was a BIG issue, people are fired up by it (rightly so). It's hard for people to see you get a reacharound and then beat the Panini is great drum.

If you're going to say things like that, I can't blame him for being condescending.

[freethrowtommy]

You may not be "trying" to be condescending, but you are, A LOT. It's annoying.

How do you not understand the "Panini Hate"? They basically gave you hush money for a large issue and now you're a Panini Fan Boy.

Why do you call it "hush money"?

They fixed their problem which is called customer service. If OP is happy, that is all that matters to good customer service. It isn't hush money, it is doing their job.

Panini is in a damned if do, damned if you don't situation with so many people it isn't funny. If they don't fix it or ignore it, they get bashed, but if they do fix it, they are trying to cover it up. What would make everyone happy?

Call a spade, a spade, in a vacuum, they did a good thing here, they made right with a customer, nothing less, nothing more. If they do something similar with everyone else who got hosed, that is a good thing.

[56chev]

Why do you call it "hush money"?

They fixed their problem which is called customer service. If OP is happy, that is all that matters to good customer service. It isn't hush money, it is doing their job.

Panini is in a damned if do, damned if you don't situation with so many people it isn't funny. If they don't fix it or ignore it, they get bashed, but if they do fix it, they are trying to cover it up. What would make everyone happy?

Call a spade, a spade, in a vacuum, they did a good thing here, they made right with a customer, nothing less, nothing more. If they do something similar with everyone else who got hosed, that is a good thing.

I call it "hush money" because, IMHO (and others on here as well) - this issue was not a quality control accident. I am of the belief that, they knew exactly what they were doing when they didn't put GW patches in these cards. Now they're back pedaling making these cards what they should have been in the first place.

[rcearley]

I call it "hush money" because, IMHO (and others on here as well) - this issue was not a quality control accident. I am of the belief that, they knew exactly what they were doing when they didn't put GW patches in these cards. Now they're back pedaling making these cards what they should have been in the first place.

The most interesting thing I find about all of this is one of the cards was listed on the sell sheet the whole time. See the Kaepernick on the sheet.

http://www.blowoutcards.net/images/ss/14pnflawlessFB.pdf

[56chev]

The most interesting thing I find about all of this is one of the cards was listed on the sell sheet the whole time. See the Kaepernick on the sheet.

http://www.blowoutcards.net/images/ss/14pnflawlessFB.pdf

You don't have to convince me. I know Panini has outright lied.

PS, OP: This is a discussion forum. You can't just post something on as touchy of a subject as this and NOT expect people to disagree with you.

I know you're not new to Blowout, but c'mon man.

'Merica.

[BigSeph]

You don't have to convince me. I know Panini has outright lied.

PS, OP: This is a discussion forum. You can't just post something on as touchy of a subject as this and NOT expect people to disagree with you.

I know you're not new to Blowout, but c'mon man.

'Merica.

Like I said earlier, people can grind their axe, it's the internet.

Doesn't change the facts - Panini delivered.

[jGarretson1]

Its only going to get worse with Panini taking over the exclusive NFL contract.

I get the need for redemptions and such and typically I forget that I have them, just so I don't get pissed off. Then when they do come in the mail its like a surprise mail day. It doesn't matter if you pay $100 o $400 or $1700 for a box the point of the matter should include the product being accurately produced with great quality. Mistakes are going to happen especially since these days most people don't keep base and all your after is the BIG hit that makes you feel like you got a decent ROI.

Now my only complaint with the redemption and signing process. I have a current JULIUS THOMAS NATIONAL TREASURES redemption that still hasn't been fulfilled. I bought multiple boxes because I love that product, but why in the world would there be MULTIPLE JULIUS THOMAS FLAWLESS autos that are live????? It makes the consumer feel as if their money isn't important. I'm not asking that every box I purchase have the best selling player in like most people would want but when I do receive a redemption that it gets fulfilled before you put the same guys auto into another box almost a year later.

[maddbeaver]

Soooo... I thought I'd share my experience as well. When this thread popped up I had received an email from David saying my 1/1 patch was on the way this past Friday too. My experience was the exact same as the OP's. I received this in a GB, sent it in a week after they announced the issues, received updates, etc. I was hoping that my experience would also be the same when the card arrived. Well, I'll let the pictures do the talking as well:

Before:
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll279/maddbeaver/IMG_2006.jpg (http://s290.photobucket.com/user/maddbeaver/media/IMG_2006.jpg.html)

After:
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll279/maddbeaver/IMG_2149.jpg (http://s290.photobucket.com/user/maddbeaver/media/IMG_2149.jpg.html)
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I would say they delivered on this one as well!!

[ManInTheMirror]

Weird how the really nice uber sick mega mojo patches are getting inserted in these cards now and not before.......

[freethrowtommy]

With both the Luck and Kaep, I almost like the David Sharp decoy more than the card.

That Luck is beautiful.

[freethrowtommy]

Weird how the really nice uber sick mega mojo patches are getting inserted in these cards now and not before.......

I think it is mostly make ups to the people they hosed over more than anything.

I think these two would have been happy with the original patches if they were actually GU since they both bought them in the first place.

[Tvanho]

With both the Luck and Kaep, I almost like the David Sharp decoy more than the card.

That Luck is beautiful.

Looks like that same decoy was mass produced, maybe we'll start seeing it in packs.

Nice card beaver! Just curious, you have any idea whats up with that stitching?

[maddbeaver]

Nice card beaver! Just curious, you have any idea whats up with that stitching?


It's not loose or anything. Looks like that's how it was attached to the jersey.

[arkeeper]

Weird how the really nice uber sick mega mojo patches are getting inserted in these cards now and not before.......

I know! It's almost like they made a mistake and put the wrong patches in the first time ;)

[bigaust001]

Well, I've been doing a little digging on the Luck patch... it's the 30th anniversary of being in Indy. They wore it every game, home and away, so that narrows this blue jersey example down to eight games. I've been able to find detailed pI cures of six of the games, all excluding the Seahawks and the Rams, and in the other six games the stithing that runs through the patch is significantly different than what is in the card. In all of the images I could find that had a high genough resolution to compare this to, the stitching ran through between the two and the zero as apposed to the zero and the one. I apologize for any grammatical errors as I am on my tablet.

If someone will pm me with their email, i will send them a screen shot of what I am talking about.

There are many possible reasons for this, since many players wear more than onenough jersey a game, but can anyone find anything different?

[Tvanho]

Well, I've been doing a little digging on the Luck patch... it's the 30th anniversary of being in Indy. They wore it every game, home and away, so that narrows this blue jersey example down to eight games. I've been able to find detailed pI cures of six of the games, all excluding the Seahawks and the Rams, and in the other six games the stithing that runs through the patch is significantly different than what is in the card. In all of the images I could find that had a high genough resolution to compare this to, the stitching ran through between the two and the zero as apposed to the zero and the one. I apologize for any grammatical errors as I am on my tablet.

If someone will pm me with their email, i will send them a screen shot of what I am talking about.

There are many possible reasons for this, since many players wear more than onenough jersey a game, but can anyone find anything different?


So are you saying from your investigation that this patch is not from at least 6 of the 8 possible games played? The stitching was immediately distinct and I figured it would be very easy to find what game this was from. Are game used jerseys usually made with such shoddy stitching?

My best guess is that when it was in the panini factory, one of the folks getting it ready for a card accidentally put that stitching in there and that's why it was never used in a card yet.

[bigaust001]

So are you saying from your investigation that this patch is not from at least 6 of the 8 possible games played? The stitching was immediately distinct and I figured it would be very easy to find what game this was from. Are game used jerseys usually made with such shoddy stitching?

My best guess is that when it was in the panini factory, one of the folks getting it ready for a card accidentally put that stitching in there and that's why it was never used in a card yet.

The stitching is so shoddy because the patch is an addition to the regular run of the mill game jersey, and this is seen with just about every commemorative parch that I've ever seen. And like I said, it's always possible that he could've switched jerseys, but then again, Panini should have access to Game used Luck memorabilia if they're selling it on their very own website.

[bigaust001]

And by my investigation, I mean looking through game photo folders and comparing the pictures of Luck. By far no investigation, just a bit of research

[arkeeper]

And by my investigation, I mean looking through game photo folders and comparing the pictures of Luck. By far no investigation, just a bit of research

You can see in this one, the patches look pretty slapped on and stictched up so they don't come off. The corner below the 3 seems to be pretty much the same as the above, but with white thread. Seems like the patch in the card is fine.

http://i.imgur.com/Az2z9Eb.jpg

[arkeeper]

Found one, looks like a winner. You can see the thread going up to the right of the 0.

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/565/216/hi-res-185448656-andrew-luck-of-the-indianapolis-colts-looks-to-pass_crop_exact.jpg?w=1500&h=1500&q=85

[Tvanho]

That's so awesome! So cool to be able to find out exactly what game a patch came from!

The game for reference, a win and big game for Andrew!

http://espn.go.com/nfl/gamecast?gameId=331020011&version=mobile&src=desktop

[bigaust001]

Found one, looks like a winner. You can see the thread going up to the right of the 0.

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/565/216/hi-res-185448656-andrew-luck-of-the-indianapolis-colts-looks-to-pass_crop_exact.jpg?w=1500&h=1500&q=85

Great find man! I'm going to look and see if I can find a clearer picture now that I'm on my laptop.

[bigaust001]

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/45qjNPr4JzIRc6RAgTRCLtLDggI=/0x0:4000x2667/730x487/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/37997304/185454391.0.jpg

Idk if it's confirmed or not, is there just a bit of space between the line and the 0 or is it my eyes? Bad pic quality plays in aswell

[danfan1]

Don't drink the Kool-aid!!!
Glad they made right on something THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT TO BEGIN WITH. I still dont understand how they could have such a major screw up and the highest end product they've released, which leads me to believe it was no accident. Glad you're happy with what you should have received originally, but that doesn't mean everyone else will be. The product name is Flawless for crying out loud.