Curt Schilling is kind of the worst

[douglasfir]

Great athlete, blowhard human. Curt Schilling Says Being A Republican Cost Him HOF Votes (http://deadspin.com/curt-schilling-says-being-a-republican-cost-him-hof-vot-1678064839)

[groundsupport]

So he spoke his mind on something he believes, and that makes him horrible?

Who cares if he is wrong or right. Do you feel offended?

[Hollywood42]

I can think of a couple athletes that rate as a worse person...

But seriously, I like Schilling. He speaks his mind and he's truthful. I feel bad with how far he's fallen recently

[exitmusicblue]

Curt will be Curt. He's not much different from the rest of us making these kinds of statements, but obviously gets a lot more publicity, so things get blown out of proportion.

Yes, he lacks a filter. Sure this would've been better uttered at a bar in the company of friends and fam.

But he's not malicious, causes no harm. He's basically an All-Star, WS MVP, Clemente Award-winning version of metsplaya.

[Pine Tar]

Ahhhh Curt, yeah that's it, and no other reason:special:

[Verufian]

I can think of a couple athletes that rate as a worse person...

But seriously, I like Schilling. He speaks his mind and he's truthful. I feel bad with how far he's fallen recently

Except, in the very article posted in the OP, he wasn't?

Did nobody actually click the link and read?

[Smoltz] is a Hall-of-Famer. And I think the other big thing is that I think he's a Democrat, and so... I know that as a Republican, that there's some people who really don't like that.

Second, John Smoltz is almost certainly not a Democrat. The man once compared homosexuality to bestiality, and gave a bunch of money to Mitt Romney's campaign. Curt Schilling is dumb as hell.

[rcgdodge]

Curt needs to come to Philly and sign my baseball card! Don't care if he's a Republican!

[Hollywood42]

Fair enough. He's still speaking his mind though and saying what he thinks, even if some of what he said was wrong. For a different perspective, I strongly encourage you to watch/read this interview with ESPN: Curt Schilling not hiding his scars - ESPN Boston (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/11754095/curt-schilling-not-hiding-scars)

Except, in the very article posted in the OP, he wasn't?

Did nobody actually click the link and read?

[trixstar]

Why does the fact that he's speaking his mind mean anything? If an idiot speaks his mind you still call him an idiot. Congrats Schilling you spoke your mind, it's still an idiotic thing to say.

[exitmusicblue]

Why does the fact that he's speaking his mind mean anything? If an idiot speaks his mind you still call him an idiot. Congrats Schilling you spoke your mind, it's still an idiotic thing to say.

It is idiotic indeed. But I'm used to it from Schilling, LOL.

[stera8]

I hate him cause he was a Boston player.



...is he still sick? :/

[exitmusicblue]

I hate him cause he was a Boston player.



...is he still sick? :/

Gotten a lot better last I read.

Anyhow, every good band o' brothers would be more fun for having someone like him, though he'd require more bailing out than the typical member. Honor, loyalty, etc. he's got in spades. Loved it when he called out Arod for being bush league...

[Scottish Punk]

You know what is going to cause him to lose more votes. Acting like an idiot and calling out all the voters has liberals which have a personal vendetta against him. Sure would want to make me vote for you and we already know how fickle some of these journalists already are.

[douglasfir]

I grew up watching Schilling, but he would be a real hard person to have over for Thanksgiving dinner. He just seems really combative lately (more so than usual). See also: twitter wars/ Keith Law.

[BostonNut]

I'm just happy he beat cancer.

Kids: Don't chew tobacco.

[death2redemptions]

I met him when I worked at a video game store. He was with his son and supposedly looking to start his own video game business...he didn't say a word to me. Didn't even say goodbye when I gave him his change. He's more than likely the devil, such a rude and evil man. I bet he eats puppies and kicks children.

[Skipscards]

Who cares? He'll get in one day. It's not the Hall of Mensans.

[Ephland]

So he spoke his mind on something he believes, and that makes him horrible?

Who cares if he is wrong or right. Do you feel offended?

Who cares if OP is wrong or right. Do you feel offended?

[Zoop]

His evolution "debate" that got Keith Law in trouble for destroying his argument only proved that he is a worthless piece of ****.

[exitmusicblue]

lolol, he certainly seems polarizing :O

dude is light years away from being a John Rocker type though.

[rexmundi71]

Great athlete, blowhard human. Curt Schilling Says Being A Republican Cost Him HOF Votes (http://deadspin.com/curt-schilling-says-being-a-republican-cost-him-hof-vot-1678064839)

I think he's a blithering moron, but that wouldn't have any bearing on whether I would vote for him to be inducted, for the same reason I wouldn't care if someone was given a scholarship for science despite them being terrible at baseball.

[gmsieb]

Why does the fact that he's speaking his mind mean anything? If an idiot speaks his mind you still call him an idiot. Congrats Schilling you spoke your mind, it's still an idiotic thing to say.

Because idiots of all kinds speak their minds all day and it makes big news. But if you have his views, you get beat up. People pull the race/gender/gay card on almost everything these days, no one puts them check.

[phizeta564]

Let's see: Schilling is a Republican, most media types are liberal democrats. The majority of liberal democrats have a ton of hatred, disgust, and contempt toward Republicans just for having a different view than them. So, yeah. I see this as a valid reason for costing him votes. Enough to keep him out, probably not, but I'd say some wouldn't vote for him regardless just because of his political beliefs

[bdrr]

Great athlete, blowhard human. Curt Schilling Says Being A Republican Cost Him HOF Votes (http://deadspin.com/curt-schilling-says-being-a-republican-cost-him-hof-vot-1678064839)

He's probably right, though. Shaming conservatives is the popular new trend among "opinion leaders."

[douglasfir]

I'd think he was a jackass if he was a democrat too pointing fingers like a child. I don't side with either party.

[frozenntimesports]

I don't think Schilling is a Hall of Famer.

[death2redemptions]

On every team he played for he was always second best but never the best. I still think he put together a career that is HOF worthy.

[Skipscards]

On every team he played for he was always second best but never the best. I still think he put together a career that is HOF worthy.

Kinda like Glavine.

[death2redemptions]

Kinda like Glavine.

Just like Glavine. Except Glavine compiled 300 wins so the writers automatically voted him in first ballot.

[discostu]

Political affiliation is irrelevant, however when you're vomiting on about creationism...you don't deserve anything that the modern world has to offer.

HOF included.

[Skipscards]

Just like Glavine. Except Glavine compiled 300 wins so the writers automatically voted him in first ballot.

Ahhh...so like Smoltz then.

[death2redemptions]

Ahhh...so like Smoltz then.

Kinda like Smoltz but since he also recorded 150 saves they let him in first ballot.

He was also one of the "big three".

[Skipscards]

Kinda like Smoltz but since he also recorded 150 saves they let him in first ballot.

He was also one of the "big three".
Ahhhh.... So like Drysdale!

[death2redemptions]

Ahhhh.... So like Drysdale!

He doesn't have 300 wins or 150 saves/200 wins so screw him, nobody cares.

[cubnut]

douglasfir is the blowhard.

[VeedonFleece]

Let's see: Schilling is a Republican, most media types are liberal democrats. The majority of liberal democrats have a ton of hatred, disgust, and contempt toward Republicans just for having a different view than them. So, yeah. I see this as a valid reason for costing him votes. Enough to keep him out, probably not, but I'd say some wouldn't vote for him regardless just because of his political beliefs

I guess I'd fall into this camp. Never liked Schilling as a person, and that's despite my being blissfully unaware of any creationism vs evolution debate. That said, he made my fictitious ballot and I've selected him in the all-time draft. He absolutely belongs in the HoF imo.

[douglasfir]

douglasfir is the blowhard.

You got me.

[death2redemptions]

You got me.

Doug Blowhard is your name...blowing hard is your game. :coffee:

[fulltritty]

Here's a question: Did anyone here know Schilling was a Republican before this interview? I sure don't remember another time reading he was, so how did the writers know? All I know is that Schilling was a very good player (not HOF worthy to me) and a lousy businessman.

[IamRalpho]

Love Curt Schilling for all he did for Boston. Great guy, charitable, best post season pitcher I ever saw. He changed the culture of the Red Sox.

But hes a crazy person. Straight up lunatic blow hard.

Love him but hes nuts.

Absolutely a Hall of Famer too

[Skipscards]

Love Curt Schilling for all he did for Boston. Great guy, charitable, best post season pitcher I ever saw. He changed the culture of the Red Sox.

But hes a crazy person. Straight up lunatic blow hard.

Love him but hes nuts.

Absolutely a Hall of Famer too

Fingers crossed on the best HOF speech of alltime...

[SportsAutoFreak]

Here's a question: Did anyone here know Schilling was a Republican before this interview? I sure don't remember another time reading he was, so how did the writers know? All I know is that Schilling was a very good player (not HOF worthy to me) and a lousy businessman.

I did. We have opposing viewpoints politically and don't care for some of the things he's said, but if I had a vote, his name would have been on my ballot and he shall appear on my personal one every year until he's either elected or falls off.

[Thommy]

Ahhhh.... So like Drysdale!

You need to go look up Drysdale and Koufax, this comment is unacceptable :mad:. Drysdale won a Cy Young during Koufax's historic stretch and was great both before and after it.

[Skipscards]

Kinda like Smoltz but since he also recorded 150 saves they let him in first ballot.

He was also one of the "big three".

You need to go look up Drysdale and Koufax, this comment is unacceptable :mad:. Drysdale won a Cy Young during Koufax's historic stretch and was great both before and after it.

Hahaha...funny. This time I went to check similarity scores and the 7th and 8th most similar pitchers to Schilling are, 7. Smoltz and 8. Drysdale! Now that's random!

[sideshowbob]

The 70 year old white men that make up the majority of HOF voters are definitely liberal.

[Thommy]

Hahaha...funny. This time I went to check similarity scores and the 7th and 8th most similar pitchers to Schilling are, 7. Smoltz and 8. Drysdale! Now that's random!

Drysdale rules Saaberhägén drools. Dee Gordon> George Brett :p

[Skipscards]

Drysdale rules Saaberhägén drools. Dee Gordon> George Brett :p

Wrong. It's 2015....odd year, Sabes rules and Drysdale has the saliva coming out of the mouth. :eek:

[togaman]

Great athlete, blowhard human. Curt Schilling Says Being A Republican Cost Him HOF Votes (http://deadspin.com/curt-schilling-says-being-a-republican-cost-him-hof-vot-1678064839)

Schilling gave a backhand complement to Biggio with his induction into Hall of Fame.

IMO schilling is one of those who had a solid career and was very good but just not quite good enough to be in Hall of Fame. Not everyone gets a trophy like in Little League today.

after going back and watching it again Schilling started backtracking a bit about Biggio accomplishments and then Tim K. ended it appropriately saying he had better stats than Mantle and Aaron in a couple categories and certainly is a Hall of Famer. Had he an Bagwell been in New York, Boston or LA they would have been worshipped treated like Derek Jeter.

Schilling lit up like a light bulb when one a commentators mentioned Schillings HOF numbers bumped up a bit into the 30s. Had he not been on ESPN for face time the past few years Schilling might be in the single digits. Bloody sock or not he had a fine career just one of those guys just not quit there. Don Mattingly is not in Hall of Fame. A terrific career cut short by back problems but IMO should be in HOF

[gmsieb]

Schilling gave a backhand complement to Biggio with his induction into Hall of Fame.

IMO schilling is one of those who had a solid career and was very good but just not quite good enough to be in Hall of Fame. Not everyone gets a trophy like in Little League today.

That's how many view biggio.

[mikmouse24]

So he spoke his mind on something he believes, and that makes him horrible?

Who cares if he is wrong or right. Do you feel offended?

THIS!

OP must be a democrat :)

What is AWESOME about being American is that we have the RIGHT to speak our minds. and you have the RIGHT to disagree!!

So in essence. we are all on the same team!

[zachtruitt]

Oy. Schilling was a great postseason pitcher and I can see him making the Hall in the next few years.

I also hope that he pays back the state of Rhode Island the almost $70 million+ that his failed video game company threw into a black hole. What happened to Republican fiscal responsibility Curt?
Oh wait, I guess he's too busy debating evolution to worry about all that.

[lindeman79]

Boston boston boston boston boston boston boston boston JC!

Shilling is a HOF. But thinking because he is a rep IS crazy. So I actually agree with IamaHARDO. AND whatever happened to keeping your political views to yourself. Go around parading about it. HHMMMM.
Thanks for thanking me and rats. That was a real Schilling thing to do. You must be related. And fall under the same things you said about him.

Love Curt Schilling for all he did for Boston. Great guy, charitable, best post season pitcher I ever saw. He changed the culture of the Red Sox.

But hes a crazy person. Straight up lunatic blow hard.

Love him but hes nuts.

Absolutely a Hall of Famer too

[yanksfan0134]

Being from Rhode Island, I'm not a fan of his, to say the least. The whole studio 38 thing really killed his image IMHO.

[BostonNut]

Fingers crossed on the best HOF speech of alltime...

That's reserved for Manny Ramirez...

[frozenntimesports]

Just like Glavine. Except Glavine compiled 300 wins so the writers automatically voted him in first ballot.

Glavine is to Picasso as Schilling is to Etch-a-Sketch.

Glavine won 300 games and a Cy Young. He did it with so-so stuff. He did it with guile. Schilling won 216 games and never won a Cy Young.

I think Schilling gets it because of his 3000 K's, but that doesn't mean he should.

I had Smoltz on the outside looking in too. (I also have PED suspicions on Smoltz, who gets better at 38?)

[lindeman79]

Nolan Ryan!


"I had Smoltz on the outside looking in too. (I also have PED suspicions on Smoltz, who gets better at 38?)[/QUOTE]"

[Skipscards]

I had Smoltz on the outside looking in too. (I also have PED suspicions on Smoltz, who gets better at 38?)

Nolan Ryan!


"I had Smoltz on the outside looking in too. (I also have PED suspicions on Smoltz, who gets better at 38?)"

Jamie Moyer!

[death2redemptions]

I had Smoltz on the outside looking in too. (I also have PED suspicions on Smoltz, who gets better at 38?)

He didn't get "better" when he was 38, he was already performing well at the time, he was just moved from the closer role back to the starting role because Braves no longer needed a closer. After his injury in 2000 the Braves wanted to ease him back in slowly but Smoltz himself said that he wanted to stay in as the closer. He was one of the "big three" so Braves management let him stay in whatever role he wanted to. Before turning 38 he had just put together three 45+ save seasons in a row with a season where he had an ERA of 1.12 so he wasn't scuffling before the 2005 season (when he turned 38).

[duwal]

Let's see: Schilling is a Republican, most media types are liberal democrats. The majority of liberal democrats have a ton of hatred, disgust, and contempt toward Republicans just for having a different view than them. So, yeah. I see this as a valid reason for costing him votes. Enough to keep him out, probably not, but I'd say some wouldn't vote for him regardless just because of his political beliefs


I also can see some reasoning behind it. We've all seen with all of the performance enhancement speculation or how good/bad their personalities are during their career that the Hall of Fame voters aren't voting for their performance on the field but also based on their own personal opinions or beliefs whether they are warranted or not.

I mean we've seen some writers who said they didn't vote someone in or left them off their ballot purely for the fact the player was a big rival of the team that they covered.wrote for so why would people be so naive to believe some wouldn't be petty enough to keep a player off their vote to try and screw with them just because of their political affiliation

[BostonNut]

If Smoltz was on PED's he should get a refund for the ones he was using when he was on the Red Sox...he was downright God-awful...Daiskue awful...

[death2redemptions]

If Smoltz was on PED's he should get a refund for the ones he was using when he was on the Red Sox...he was downright God-awful...Daiskue awful...

lol...he was 42 years old, what did you expect out of him?

[duwal]

I had Smoltz on the outside looking in too. (I also have PED suspicions on Smoltz, who gets better at 38?)


A lot of hall of fame players were like that too though. Hank Aaron's biggest homerun total, slugging and OPS total were when he was 37 years old

[IamRalpho]

Boston boston boston boston boston boston boston boston JC!

Shilling is a HOF. But thinking because he is a rep IS crazy. So I actually agree with IamaHARDO. AND whatever happened to keeping your political views to yourself. Go around parading about it. HHMMMM.
Thanks for thanking me and rats. That was a real Schilling thing to do. You must be related. And fall under the same things you said about him.

Hey buddy, you wanna accompany me to Pedros induction this summer? Or are you still doubting that is gonna happen?

[Anderdale]

I would think being a republican would get him more votes as of late.

[discostu]

A lot of hall of fame players were like that too though. Hank Aaron's biggest homerun total, slugging and OPS total were when he was 37 years old

You mean when steroids really starting appearing in American sports?

[lindeman79]

I NEVER doubted it.

Hey buddy, you wanna accompany me to Pedros induction this summer? Or are you still doubting that is gonna happen?

[frozenntimesports]

Jamie Moyer!

Jamie Moyer is a robot bro.

[Birdmandig]

Curt Schilling is a fool, he gives Smoltz a back handed complement and adds its because he is a democrat..

Fact Check Curt: Smoltz has helped campaign for mitt Romney and also donated to the republican party..

[mainerunr]

I would think being a republican would get him more votes as of late.

How so the media still has the same agenda it has had for a long time and it certainly is not a conservative agenda.

That said, I highly doubt his political leanings played any role in his vote total.

Also, the people I have talked to about the game his company produced said it was a pretty good game but in a flooded game market, rpg's just don't tend to sell as well as the yearly installment of COD because 12 yr olds have no interest in rpg's.