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Tvanho

01-12-2015, 09:23 PM

Cardale is making one of the strongest statements for a starting job since Brady did when Bledsoe went down.

Does anyone have any thoughts on what goes on next year or who makes a move between either him, Braxton or OSU?

groundsupport

01-12-2015, 09:24 PM

Can we get through tonight first? Geesh.

Tvanho

01-12-2015, 09:31 PM

Can we get through tonight first? Geesh.

Sure......do you not think Cardale has made enough of a case to start?

jiggidy

01-12-2015, 09:32 PM

JT Barrett..... Braxton transfers and Cardale declares for the draft.

SDcardguy24

01-12-2015, 09:33 PM

JT Barrett..... Braxton transfers and Cardale declares for the draft.

My thoughts as well. Jones will be a project for some team but I can see him being drafted.

aliceinpains

01-12-2015, 09:39 PM

JT Barrett..... Braxton transfers and Cardale declares for the draft.

Braxton should stay if Jones goes pro.

preakness

01-12-2015, 09:44 PM

ND golson will transfer to osu and start there

mnvikingstwins

01-12-2015, 09:47 PM

Jones seems like he could be worth an NFL team signing as a UDFA to try converting him to a goal-line back.

Tvanho

01-12-2015, 09:49 PM

If he can't go in the first or second round, I'm not sure if Jones should come out. He's still got two years left to cement a top status if he can keep playing like this.

lambeauleap87

01-12-2015, 09:51 PM

I would not be the least bit surprised to see all three of them on Ohio State's roster next year.

mnvikingstwins

01-12-2015, 09:51 PM

If he can't go in the first or second round, I'm not sure if Jones should come out. He's still got two years left to cement a top status if he can keep playing like this.

But at the same time he can be making six figures for two extra years now without worrying about injury or inevitable regression from leading team to the title game in his first three starts. He certainly doesn't care about school, so no reason for him to stay to be forced to learn 2 more years.

mnvikingstwins

01-12-2015, 09:51 PM

I would not be the least bit surprised to see all three of them on Ohio State's roster next year.

I'd be surprised if more than one of them was still on the roster.

fullmetal

01-12-2015, 09:52 PM

Insider dust kicking by Baxter in Tallahassee.

preakness

01-12-2015, 09:56 PM

Takes pay cut if he goes to NFL ;)

Tvanho

01-12-2015, 09:56 PM

But at the same time he can be making six figures for two extra years now without worrying about injury or inevitable regression from leading team to the title game in his first three starts. He certainly doesn't care about school, so no reason for him to stay to be forced to learn 2 more years.

Thats a good point. From what I have seen from him so far he could do very well at the next level. Great size and amazing decision making.

This is going out on a limb, but if he does declare, I wouldn't be too surprised if he makes it into first round discussion if he has a good combine and pro day.

lambeauleap87

01-12-2015, 09:57 PM

Do it on 'em, Cardale! Go Buckeyes!

Edit: Wrong thread, but still relevant.

fezziwig

01-12-2015, 10:14 PM

Thats a good point. From what I have seen from him so far he could do very well at the next level. Great size and amazing decision making.

This is going out on a limb, but if he does declare, I wouldn't be too surprised if he makes it into first round discussion if he has a good combine and pro day.

Really difficult for me to see first round, unless one of the teams at the top ID him as the guy and trade down. It would be highly questionable for a team, for example, like Carolina, where he could replicate Cam as a backup, use a first rounder on a backup QB; likewise, it wouldn't be good of Seattle to go there after paying Wilson, especially with cheaper options available (Locker as a FA, or Daniels on the practice squad). I think his likely range is early 3rd to 4th, maybe late 2nd in a trade scenario.

asujbl

01-13-2015, 01:13 AM

Zeke will win a Heisman

AllAboutDaStats

01-13-2015, 01:36 AM

I think Cardale goes into camp being the 1st string QB. I hope all 3 stay with Braxton switching positions.

bucknut27

01-13-2015, 01:49 AM

JT is starting, CJ is going pro.....

Wolves4Life

01-13-2015, 03:08 AM

JT is starting, CJ is going pro.....

What round is people projecting him after only 3 fairly good games?

xbignick

01-13-2015, 03:14 AM

What round is people projecting him after only 3 fairly good games?

According to twitter he's a first rounder.

Wolves4Life

01-13-2015, 03:21 AM

According to twitter he's a first rounder.

That is extremely generous. I would think 2nd or 3rd at best.

gamer4l1fe

01-13-2015, 04:15 AM

Yeah I'm a Buckeyes fan and I would think saying Cardale is a 1st round pick after 3 starts is jumping to some major conclusions. NFL defenses are far superior to college defenses and his size difference is not a factor in the pro game. I'm not sure what's really going to happen next year, but it seems like a really good problem to have!!!

Tvanho

01-13-2015, 07:28 AM

I'm just saying he has a chance to be a first rounder if he goes pro. For someone like this, without a long proven track record, everything depends on a pro day and combine performance. Depending on how he does on those he could slip either way.

During the broadcast, they said Urban Meyer was told by all his underclassmen that they were not declaring. I would assume that would include Jones, a redshirt sophomore. But he could obviously still change his mind if he realizes he can go high in the draft.

berkey33

01-13-2015, 07:29 AM

https://vine.co/v/OrmlhjE19wQ

thats who

Burks

01-13-2015, 08:42 AM

Who cares? The bucks have shown they don't need a top QB to win. As long as Elliot is in the backfield and the line is working together, OSU won't have an issue.

asujbl

01-13-2015, 09:19 AM

Braxton is gone. That isn't even a question. And more power to him. I hope he succeeds somewhere.

It's going to come down to whether Cardale wants to improve his draft stock by showing he can win the job... or if he thinks it's a risk to have a larger sample size since all anyone knows about him right now is that he crushed Wisconsin, Bama, and Oregon.

Hell I want him in Cleveland right now.

If I had to bet I think Jones is your starter next year, JT sits, and Braxton transfers. Jones goes pro after next year and JT takes over again before Torrance Gibson gets to town.

Holy crap that was fun to type.

CardCollector

01-13-2015, 10:06 AM

JT Barrett. Cardale goes pro, Braxton transfers, Burrows/ Gibson will be backups, but with Gibson being an ATH, could see him changing positions if Burrows beats him out in the spring for the 2 spot.

berkey33

01-13-2015, 10:09 AM

JT Barrett. Cardale goes pro, Braxton transfers, Burrows/ Gibson will be backups, but with Gibson being an ATH, could see him changing positions if Burrows beats him out in the spring for the 2 spot.

Gibson said he's coming to tOSU because they are going to let him develop at QB. The quote was something like they are going to be patient with me and not ask me to move if I don't play great in spring.
If that happens Collier is #2 with the fresh. going for the #3 job.

Scottish Punk

01-13-2015, 10:16 AM

Craig Krenzel..

Seriously though, Barret is the starter. This forces Braxton to transfer. I think those two things are clear. The question is Cardale, does he transfer and improve draft stock or declare and become a 4th/5th rounder and develop on the bench in the NFL?

coclarkson

01-13-2015, 10:43 AM

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Hell I want him in Cleveland right now.

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and that's why cleveland is well..cleveland

asujbl

01-13-2015, 10:46 AM

and that's why cleveland is well..cleveland

Really? The morning after he wins a National Title you're going to knock him?

Give it a few days. Relax.

BostonNut

01-13-2015, 11:47 AM

and that's why cleveland is well..cleveland

I disagree completely. Jones looks like the real deal. I think he could do wonders for a QB hungry NFL team.

ssj3goten

01-13-2015, 12:01 PM

Tvanho

01-13-2015, 12:22 PM

I have to ask the question is cardale that good or is it the system they play in? I mean at the start of season Miller was hyper as heisman candidate. Then Barrett is playing lights out football gets hurt then cardale plays well. Are all three QB's just that good or is it the friendly QB system of Urban Meyer?
plus hopefully he stays true and as he said earn that degree.

The system definitely ties in to ANY QB playing well. But just from these games, it seems like he has a legit shot at being very good.

His size is one thing, but his decision making is what has really impressed me. The amount of times that he has realized that he doesn't have an opening, either for a pass or for a run, and simply thrown the ball away almost impresses me most. There's probably nothing that will back my claim, but I feel like most college QBs try to force way too many bad throws that get them in trouble instead of just getting rid of the ball.

He had VERY good protection in the game I saw last night, so that definitely helps getting those throws out. But everyone can see he has NFL caliber arm power, and I've seen nothing in the past couple games to indicate he doesn't have NFL caliber accuracy to go with it.

And that's just his arm. His legs appear to be just as capable of a weapon, how he powers through nose tackles. He just looks to be an incredible player from the (very) small snapshot we were given. But those snapshots were also in what were likely some of the most pressure packed games he has ever played and he kept his poise amazingly.

If his work ethic and intelligence is anywhere near what I've seen from his play so far, I don't doubt he can be a great NFL QB.

Tvanho

01-13-2015, 12:51 PM

Ohio State Buckeyes quarterback Cardale Jones says he's not ready for NFL yet - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls14/story/_/id/12161205/ohio-state-buckeyes-quarterback-cardale-jones-says-not-ready-nfl-yet)

So right now, Barrett expects all 3 QBs to be back. That would be one hot mess.

sbfinley

01-13-2015, 01:02 PM

Baring injury Jones will start. The news that Miller will transfer (he's about to graduate or just did so he can play immediately) isn't exactly a secret around college football. Personally, I think he ends up at LSU. Barrett will be the backup. In the spring Jones actually beat him out for the backup spot, but slid to 3 during the preseason because - as the coaches put it - he was clearly the better talent of the two but they weren't sure he could mentally get the job done. I'd say the last three games erased that doubt.

DajuanWagner

01-13-2015, 01:06 PM

I would not be the least bit surprised to see all three of them on Ohio State's roster next year.

I just wish one of them, ANY one of them, and go play for the Illini........sheesh, throw us a bone........

DajuanWagner

01-13-2015, 01:06 PM

mr10pin

01-13-2015, 01:15 PM

If you were a college QB, how much would you want to be the starter for this team next year? I think that's a big consideration before anyone decides to walk away.

chansen10

01-13-2015, 01:21 PM

I don't want to start a whole should Cardale Jones go to the draft thread but what's everyones opinions on him? I think his draft stock is probably at an all time high.. Not sure if he wants to come back next year and than have to compete for a starting job.. There could be a chance he loses the job and than his draft stock plummets.. He has ideal size, strength and a pretty good arm for a QB. He probably has some developing to do as Myer protected him pretty well not asking to much from him..