Sketch Collectors: Blowout Commission Club?

[monkeymcgee]

What if we could do something like a group break/submission with some of favorite Blowout artists to get a batch of commissions done?

For example, we get 8-10 collectors together who think they would buy, contact artists to see about a bulk commission rate for a batch of cards, and then share our results. The club members would get first dibs on the slots and we can offer spots to non-club members if we have extras available for a given artist.

I thought this would be a fun way to get some unique and awesome artwork and support some of the great artists who frequent our forum.

I have done zero legwork on this yet, but I was wanted to gauge interest.

Anyone game? I welcome any suggestions as well.

[finfangfan]

A draft involving many artists? Or one artist commissioned to do X sketches?

[monkeymcgee]

A draft involving many artists? Or one artist commissioned to do X sketches?

I was thinking more about us saying X number of cards for one artist at a time. The advantage to us would be possibly getting a better commission rate for a larger group of cards (if the artists would be interested in that).

[jjsmallvillelvr]

I don't know if it's wat FFF meant, but it would be cool if it was a draft like a group break. Everyone pays $30 or something. Then the artist does the amount of sketches as there are members who joined. Everyone could either throw out a few topics that interest them and the artist could try to take from those topics, or it could be specifically heroes, or a certain show, etc. then you randomize the draft and pick the sketches. Everyone would get a sketch, so not a huge gamble obvs. But could be fun.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Or you could have multiple artists pArticipate. 2-5 sketches each, so there's more of a gamble in what you get.

[monkeymcgee]

Yeah, that's an interesting idea. My concern with going that route would be someone has to collect and distribute money to the artists, which has a lot of potential pitfalls (and not something I'd personally be willing to manage). With what I was originally thinking, we'd be paying the artist individually to avoid a lot of those issues. You'd still have the potential of someone not paying for their spot, but I think that's going to be unavoidable with any group buy situation.

[bradu]

some interesting concepts...curious to see where this leads

[JRCrosby]

I really like this idea and love the group aspect of it. You can count me in as an artist, but we'd have to schedule well in advance so I can save a block of time to complete all of them.

I'll get my wife to take some pics of me in a bikini and add a personal 'kiss' and make some Crosby Benchwarmer cards. I'll get Steve to make a custome booklet with the 'used' swatch of it too! :)

Seriously though....Fun idea!!!

[monkeymcgee]

I really like this idea and love the group aspect of it. You can count me in as an artist, but we'd have to schedule well in advance so I can save a block of time to complete all of them.

I'll get my wife to take some pics of me in a bikini and add a personal 'kiss' and make some Crosby Benchwarmer cards. I'll get Steve to make a custome booklet with the 'used' swatch of it too! :)

Seriously though....Fun idea!!!

Thanks Jason--yeah, I figure the scheduling will be tricky but I thought if there was a decent pot of cash involved it might be easier to fit in as well.

Your Benchwarmer idea is "interesting" :eek:

:D

[jjsmallvillelvr]

I really like this idea and love the group aspect of it. You can count me in as an artist, but we'd have to schedule well in advance so I can save a block of time to complete all of them.

I'll get my wife to take some pics of me in a bikini and add a personal 'kiss' and make some Crosby Benchwarmer cards. I'll get Steve to make a custome booklet with the 'used' swatch of it too! :)

Seriously though....Fun idea!!!

Haha. That scares me a little :P

And I think a draft could work as long as there was a 'leader' probably would actually have to be an approved group break host even tho it's not really a 'break'. If the artists were willing to ship to the people who picked the sketches then all the person would really need would be to collect the money and send to the artist.

Just using a group setting to get a discount could work, but feels a bit unnecessary. Simply because you'd get maybe $5 off per card or something with a bulk buy, which is a lot if you're keeping them all. But if you're just getting one card, it's only $5 savings, and for a small amount like that I think it would be hard to get a lot of people wanting to commission the same artist at the same time. If that makes sense. Not trying to spoil your idea, I just don't know you could get enough people involved for that.

Now say 4 artists (2 already seem intrigued) would agree to do 5 cards each for a decent price. You have 20 spots to fill. Then draft them, it would add surprise and gamble to it and people love that! Lol. Like say dc comics was chosen. They'd do 5 cards of any characters. So that all cards were in the same category so if you joined you'd know you probs liked something. Or it could be completely random. 5 cards of anything they want, total grab bag. At $30 a spot that's $150 per artist. Which I don't know how much all artists commissions are. But if there was an agreed upon price the artists were cool with then it could just be fun and get a few artists some extra moolah as well.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Oh and Brad and jason would be great to have in the mix. They both do awesome stuff! Totally different styles tho, so there'd be something for everyone.

Then the artists could send scans to the host and there could be a set time for an unveiling of sorts, then the draft would start. :)

[JRCrosby]

Haha. That scares me a little :P

And I think a draft could work as long as there was a 'leader' probably would actually have to be an approved group break host even tho it's not really a 'break'. If the artists were willing to ship to the people who picked the sketches then all the person would really need would be to collect the money and send to the artist.

Just using a group setting to get a discount could work, but feels a bit unnecessary. Simply because you'd get maybe $5 off per card or something with a bulk buy, which is a lot if you're keeping them all. But if you're just getting one card, it's only $5 savings, and for a small amount like that I think it would be hard to get a lot of people wanting to commission the same artist at the same time. If that makes sense. Not trying to spoil your idea, I just don't know you could get enough people involved for that.

Now say 4 artists (2 already seem intrigued) would agree to do 5 cards each for a decent price. You have 20 spots to fill. Then draft them, it would add surprise and gamble to it and people love that! Lol. Like say dc comics was chosen. They'd do 5 cards of any characters. So that all cards were in the same category so if you joined you'd know you probs liked something. Or it could be completely random. 5 cards of anything they want, total grab bag. At $30 a spot that's $150 per artist. Which I don't know how much all artists commissions are. But if there was an agreed upon price the artists were cool with then it could just be fun and get a few artists some extra moolah as well.

So....not too receptive on my Crosby Benchwarmer idea. You haven't seen me in a bikini yet!!!!!!!

I like the idea of multiple artists in the same pool. That way, what the buyer gets will truly be a surprise. Plus it'll be less work on one artist to finish the cards in a certain time.

count me in!

[jjsmallvillelvr]

So....not too receptive on my Crosby Benchwarmer idea. You haven't seen me in a bikini yet!!!!!!!

I like the idea of multiple artists in the same pool. That way, what the buyer gets will truly be a surprise. count me in!

Haha. If I remember right you have a lot if facial hair (like a gigantic beard) which always clashes with the bikini ;)

Oh but yea, multiple artists also means less per artist per draft, which is simply easier to get 5 per artist at the same time than 20. Like you mentioned you'd have to block out a period of time.

[Magickyak]

The grab-bag draft idea sounds pretty fun! The artists would probably have fun too since it sounds like they'll be given a lot of flexibility in what they draw. I'd totally be interested in that!

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Again I apologize for taking over your thread monkey. I didn't mean too, your post just inspired an idea!

[jjsmallvillelvr]

If everybody was interested, I wouldn't mind possibly coordinating it, but I don't know how you become an approved host. Lol.

[monkeymcgee]

Again I apologize for taking over your thread monkey. I didn't mean too, your post just inspired an idea!

No problem--like I said, I welcome suggestions :)

I like the idea of knowing what I'm getting (at least in terms of subject), since I tend to get screwed on hit drafts but I can see where that could be fun. I think a draft will be more complicated logistically (in addition to the money and the draft itself, you have to find enough artists to work at the set rate), but if someone wants to organize please feel free to run with the idea.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

For any artists possibly interested, what are your thoughts on prices and number of cards? That's probably the most important detail lol.

[JRCrosby]

Haha. If I remember right you have a lot if facial hair (like a gigantic beard) which always clashes with the bikini ;)
My wife made me shave it. :( :( I'm as smooth as a baby's bottom...well.. if it had a five o'clock shadow.

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[JRCrosby]

The number would have to be small for me....say 5 cards. My schedule is hectic enough balancing my editorial illustration, company sketch cards, commissions and a 1-year old I chase around the house all day.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

No problem--like I said, I welcome suggestions :)

I like the idea of knowing what I'm getting (at least in terms of subject), since I tend to get screwed on hit drafts but I can see where that could be fun. I think a draft will be more complicated logistically (in addition to the money and the draft itself, you have to find enough artists to work at the set rate), but if someone wants to organize please feel free to run with the idea.

I know it's a little more complicated, but when I started typing the layout and what would be needed all just kinda popped into my head. So I think if we see if anymore artists are interested or collectors over the next few days, if there are a few I could try to organize it. There's quite a few artists on here I could contact, leave the usernames and artist names of anyone you know on here and I can contact with details once they are figured out.

Besides jason and Brad, I know there's

Tim proctor
Amber Shelton
Emily riggsby
JRosales (I think that's right)

I'm sure there's more, but also to make it affordable it probs can't be artists who charge 75-150 per. I'm not sure how to work out paying the artists differently, I think it would need to be a set artist payment and if the artist was willing to join for that price than they could. It'd be too hard to do different prices and then add them up and divide for spots.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

The number would have to be small for me....say 5 cards. My schedule is hectic enough balancing my editorial illustration, company sketch cards, commissions and a 1-year old I chase around the house all day.

I thought 5 sounded good as well. Does $30 per sound too much or too little? $150 total.

[Spider-Fan]

A group/bulk rate is definitely something I'd be interested in depending on the artist and timing. Any type of draft aspect, and I'm out.

JJ don't underestimate the volume discout you may be able to negotiate, depending on the artist, their current workload, and the total number of cards.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

A group/bulk rate is definitely something I'd be interested in depending on the artist and timing. Any type of draft aspect, and I'm out.

JJ don't underestimate the volume discout you may be able to negotiate, depending on the artist, their current workload, and the total number of cards.

Fair point, but as you said it depends on the artist and timing, I was just saying its be hard to get a lot of people for 1 artist at the perfect time for everyone.

Why don't you like the draft idea? Just curious. :)

[Spider-Fan]

If everybody was interested, I wouldn't mind possibly coordinating it, but I don't know how you become an approved host. Lol.

I wouldn't be to worried about that. You don't have to be an approved host to host a group break. In fact, you have to host breaks for a year before you become an approved host.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Oh one last idea. I know some artists have older APs laying around that they forgot about or just don't get asked about. Maybe for a smaller sketch set as opposed to a one they could make a lot of money on. But maybe some of the artists would do like 4 pcs and 1 ap. Just to add a little something extra for top picks so there was a bit more gamble. I have no clue if any artist would be willing to contribute that tho. I'm obvs not talking walking dead Aps. Just anything fun they may not otherwise ever use or sell.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

I wouldn't be to worried about that. You don't have to be an approved host to host a group break. In fact, you have to host breaks for a year before you become an approved host.

Oh haha, didn't know that.

[Spider-Fan]

Why don't you like the draft idea? Just curious. :)

I'd rather pay full price and get something I know I want.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

I'd rather pay full price and get something I know I want.

Yea I get that as well. That's why I don't join group breaks often. I just thought for sketch collectors who appreciate different artists and subjects it could be fun to gamble to pick from some random stuff. And if you absolutely hated what you got, you probably sell or trade it. But since it's not coming from box sets from Cze or something, artists would be chosen who can guarantee quality work. You wouldn't worry about getting a 2 second outline of a character. They'd all be good. And if you didn't like the subject like I said they'd probably be sellable. Lol. You don't have to join. It's not even official. Just letting you know my thinking on it. But I'm also a sketch collector of all artists and many subjects. Not everyone is like that.

[tacoma34]

I'd rather pay full price and get something I know I want.

I'm in for sure. Draft your hit is awesome and would be a lot of fun to watch people pick.

[Jason Brower]

Sounds like fun and it could be interesting. I'd be interested in hearing more and possibly being included as an artist.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

I'll make a new thread to keep track of interest, and you can have your thread back, monkey :)

[chonk34]

I would be interested in this, but I would need some guarantee that the Crosby Benchwarmer set is going to happen. On a more serious note, there seem to be a lot of potential pitfalls for getting a draft like this set up. I guess subject matter would matter as well. I would be up for something like comic book characters or certain film franchises, but would be less likely to join if the theme were something of little interest to me, such as horror or pinups.

[garrow21]

this is a great idea and would love to see how it goes

[jjsmallvillelvr]

I would be interested in this, but I would need some guarantee that the Crosby Benchwarmer set is going to happen. On a more serious note, there seem to be a lot of potential pitfalls for getting a draft like this set up. I guess subject matter would matter as well. I would be up for something like comic book characters or certain film franchises, but would be less likely to join if the theme were something of little interest to me, such as horror or pinups.

That's why I thought grab bag. Each artist would do 5 different subjects so everyone had a chance at something they may like.

Please check this thread and post if you are interested.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/non-sports/836288-possible-sketch-card-hit-draft-blowout-artists.html#post8772912

[ashelton]

My jumbled 2 cents.

Personally, I have 6-9 APs each of at least half a dozen old sets... and frankly, that'd get the biggest discount from me. If doing an individual artist thing, it could be a bunch of APs from the same set or a mix from all of them. I've got some Breygent, 5finity, Badaxe, Galan... sets ranging from 2010-2014, regular APs, uncut doubles, oversized, you name it. My regular PSC rate and most of those standard sized set cards are $40 at this point, I could go $35 pretty easily but $30 might be a little low, I'd have to think about it and terms would matter.

My biggest draw for participants, I'd think, would be if the lead could tentatively reserve a certain number of spots then fill them closer to the time I set aside for drawing. It'd seem like a much more immediate turnaround for individuals, then. Like if you'd ask me about, say, 10 cards NOW I'd tell you roughly a 2 week period in May or June. You do the draft when I give you a one or two week warning and that's fairly instant gratification for buyers. In terms of numbers feasible, it depends on how far in advance. I could set aside whole months and just treat it like set-work if the timing were right.

For group drafts, I'd think narrowing the subjectmatter would help. A certain show like Adventure Time would work, but I think "comic characters" or even "Marvel characters" would be too broad when people can grab decent licensed sketches on eBay for so cheap lately. If it were more like "Wonder Woman" or "Phoenix" or whatever, then you might have some takers based on characters and the artist list.

[bradu]

I am intrigued by the idea...right now I'm pretty overloaded, but I always just try to find ways to make time if there's a new opportunity. Since we're only talking about 5 cards, I think I could make it work.

The price you're talking about is right on the border for me. I charge $50 for a standard PSC. So obviously I'd like to get close to that if possible. But I think I could find a way to swing $30 if that's what we're doing, it just kinda depends on a couple things. Fitting in time for 5 new full color PSCs? Probably not. But if I could use a couple I've already done or something, then it's possible. So I'll keep my eyes on this.

[ashelton]

The price you're talking about is right on the border for me. I charge $50 for a standard PSC.

Do you include free shipping in that? Because I generally do for mine, but I think if shipping were separate and included a bit for packing supplies and paypal fees and all that so we weren't eating any costs along the way it would go a long way toward getting artists onboard for a bigger discount. It'd be a flat fee and any additional spaces for art would be free, of course. Like is $5 or $6 in s/h and fees going to be a dealbreaker if it's getting you two $40 cards for $66 instead of $80?

EDIT: Or maybe not "of course"... because if you end up with art from more than one artist there'd have to be more shipping involved. Hm.

[Cisco69]

This is a great idea.

[bradu]

I include shipping in the US on all original artwork, yes.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

I understand 30 might be low for some, that's why I was asking opinions, and I was accounting for a bit of discount for multiple cards. The problem with raising the price of cards too high is that I'd have to raise group spots as well. People would probably still participate at $35 +$2 shipping. But since they are risking what they get, that's why I don't think most people would participate much past that because if they could commission what they for sure want for $40 or $50 they may rather do that. If that makes sense. So while the artist may be getting slightly less that a single commission, it's still 5 extra cards they may not otherwise get commissioned. And I'm by no means trying to devalue anyone's work. That's why I mentioned artist payment being tricky. In order to participate the artist may need to give a little if that makes sense. If you are an artist who gets commissions all the time, it may not be something you'd want to do. If you maybe don't get them as frequently as you like, this might be good for you. And I know artists hate the exposure line, but I'm not offering you exposure with no money, just saying at a slight discount it could introduce new collectors to you. Those are my selling points I guess.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Do you include free shipping in that? Because I generally do for mine, but I think if shipping were separate and included a bit for packing supplies and paypal fees and all that so we weren't eating any costs along the way it would go a long way toward getting artists onboard for a bigger discount. It'd be a flat fee and any additional spaces for art would be free, of course. Like is $5 or $6 in s/h and fees going to be a dealbreaker if it's getting you two $40 cards for $66 instead of $80?

EDIT: Or maybe not "of course"... because if you end up with art from more than one artist there'd have to be more shipping involved. Hm.

I was counting $30 per card plus $2 shipping per card. If you go to the thread I made, it's outlined better.

[ashelton]

I was counting $30 per card plus $2 shipping per card. If you go to the thread I made, it's outlined better.

Yeah, but I wasn't :P Because honestly, taking $10+ off a commission price, while using your own packing supplies and also eating the paypal fees sounds like a lot to swallow just to play with board members, no matter how fun. Even the group breakers charge for supplies and fees in the breaks I've spied on. So there's my thought on that ;)

[bradu]

I understand 30 might be low for some, that's why I was asking opinions, and I was accounting for a bit of discount for multiple cards. The problem with raising the price of cards too high is that I'd have to raise group spots as well. People would probably still participate at $35 +$2 shipping. But since they are risking what they get, that's why I don't think most people would participate much past that because if they could commission what they for sure want for $40 or $50 they may rather do that. If that makes sense. So while the artist may be getting slightly less that a single commission, it's still 5 extra cards they may not otherwise get commissioned. And I'm by no means trying to devalue anyone's work. That's why I mentioned artist payment being tricky. In order to participate the artist may need to give a little if that makes sense. If you are an artist who gets commissions all the time, it may not be something you'd want to do. If you maybe don't get them as frequently as you like, this might be good for you. And I know artists hate the exposure line, but I'm not offering you exposure with no money, just saying at a slight discount it could introduce new collectors to you. Those are my selling points I guess.

Oh I totally follow you, and I'm not even disagreeing with anything you're saying. Just letting you know where I stand, which I guess is this:
at $40 per card, I'm in...at $35, I'm likely, and at $30, I'd really have to think about it. All of this is depending on deadlines and stuff too, right now I'm the busiest I've ever been but I would try to make it work still.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Yeah, but I wasn't :P Because honestly, taking $10+ off a commission price, while using your own packing supplies and also eating the paypal fees sounds like a lot to swallow just to play with board members, no matter how fun. Even the group breakers charge for supplies and fees in the breaks I've spied on. So there's my thought on that ;)

Is it a lot more than $2 per card to ship. Honestly I rarely ship anything. Lol. I can always add more for supplies. These are mostly ideas. In my thread I mentioned I welcomed artist input on prices and quantities and stuff.

[JRCrosby]

All these are good points being brought up. I'm 'in' but there are definitely caveats. It would have to be a subject I'm interested in also. I saw where a poster earlier DIDN'T want horror, but I'd have a blast doing that subject. But I'd have NO interest in doing a realistic portrait set like the 'Presidents' or something pinup based though. Blarg.

Anyway...fun idea. Keep the discussion rolling.

$30 is cheap for me though. Even for personal stock, I charge a good bit more.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Oh I totally follow you, and I'm not even disagreeing with anything you're saying. Just letting you know where I stand, which I guess is this:
at $40 per card, I'm in...at $35, I'm likely, and at $30, I'd really have to think about it. All of this is depending on deadlines and stuff too, right now I'm the busiest I've ever been but I would try to make it work still.

Ok will take it all into consideration. And I'm not saying anyone should do lesser work, but say you charge $40 for something that's photorealistic, maybe at $35 or $30 you do something that's easier than photorealism, or maybe slightly less detail, if that makes sense. Not lesser quality, just something that might be more worth the discount if that makes sense.

Are you talking $35 plus shipping or with shipping? Not sure how many takers there'd be at $40 per slot. I'm trying to see what the collectors are willing to pay as well as what artists want. Hopefully there's a happy medium. If that were around $35 that's not too bad.

I understand how much work you all put into your cards so I certainly don't want to devalue anyone. Just want everyone to be happy! Lol.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

All these are good points being brought up. I'm 'in' but there are definitely caveats. It would have to be a subject I'm interested in also. I saw where a poster earlier DIDN'T want horror, but I'd have a blast doing that subject. But I'd have NO interest in doing a realistic portrait set like the 'Presidents' or something pinup based though. Blarg.

Anyway...fun idea. Keep the discussion rolling.

$30 is cheap for me though. Even for personal stock, I charge a good bit more.

Grab bag would be anything really. I'd probably say no nudity so that anyone can participate, and each card should be a different subject so there's lots to choose from.

Tho I do wish you'd all go to the other thread where I'm keeping track lol.

[dragonjss39]

This sounds like a good idea . Im not a sketch card collector but this would get myself and possible others into creating there own collection. Which always means more business for the artists.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

For artists, say the draft was filled in a week. If you were given a deadline for 5 cards, realistically how long would that need to be? Is a month too short? I'd have to get payment from all the members, then disperse it to artists. And since this is unusual draft, obvs it would take time, but people probs won't want to wait 5 months to finish the draft.

Pretty please answer in this thread, I'm just posting here as that's where most people still are. http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/non-sports/836288-possible-sketch-card-hit-draft-blowout-artists.html#post8772912

[monkeymcgee]

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With respect to the draft idea coming together so quickly and so we don't all get confused, I'm going to put my group submission version on the back burner for a few weeks. After the break, I'll revisit my original idea to see if anyone else would be interested in that format.

[Spider-Fan]

With respect to the draft idea coming together so quickly and so we don't all get confused, I'm going to put my group submission version on the back burner for a few weeks. After the break, I'll revisit my original idea to see if anyone else would be interested in that format.

Monkey - Happy to assist you in this endeavor. My recommendation would be to try and work out the logistics with a desirable artist first, and then try to fill up a 20 spot (ish) bulk submission. I'm sure if the artist is popular enough and the group price is decent, that it will fill up without an issue.

Unfortunately there are a lot of flakes out there. If you fill up a submission in March and the artist isn't going to start until August, I think a lot of people might flake. Much likely to have success if you work out the details with the artist in advance, and then post the submission just a week or two before the artist is going to start. (I think Amber suggested this, or something very similar).

[monkeymcgee]

Monkey - Happy to assist you in this endeavor. My recommendation would be to try and work out the logistics with a desirable artist first, and then try to fill up a 20 spot (ish) bulk submission. I'm sure if the artist is popular enough and the group price is decent, that it will fill up without an issue.

Unfortunately there are a lot of flakes out there. If you fill up a submission in March and the artist isn't going to start until August, I think a lot of people might flake. Much likely to have success if you work out the details with the artist in advance, and then post the submission just a week or two before the artist is going to start. (I think Amber suggested this, or something very similar).

Good point--I think for this to really work, the turnaround time would need to be relatively soon for the reasons you mention. We also don't want to get into a situation where half the people get their cards and half are having to wait, which is why I was thinking a smaller batch. But let this marinate and we can debate all of this in a few weeks.

[donpedicinijr]

I'd be up for this. I do all of my work now in BW stipple (little dots form). My website is donpedicinijr.com (http://www.donpedicinijr.com) to check out my artwork. I would do x4 different types such as Star Wars, Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, another franchise then for my AP I have alot to choose from.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

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With respect to the draft idea coming together so quickly and so we don't all get confused, I'm going to put my group submission version on the back burner for a few weeks. After the break, I'll revisit my original idea to see if anyone else would be interested in that format.

Im sorry :( i really tried to get people out of your thread, I even made a new one. I just couldntget everyone to move, despite the links.

[ashelton]

Im sorry :( i really tried to get people out of your thread, I even made a new one. I just couldntget everyone to move, despite the links.

...Because everything I was saying still applied here, too.

And, yes, Spider and Monkey (okay that's an interesting picture in my head) waiting until the artist's reserved availability to do the official draft is exactly what I was suggesting :)!

[Spider-Fan]

And, yes, Spider and Monkey (okay that's an interesting picture in my head) ...

We should totally have our own animated series, or at least a web comic.

[monkeymcgee]

We should totally have our own animated series, or at least a web comic.

Seems like a winning idea to me--we can use our merch proceeds to fund massive commission batches :)!

[Skaughtt0]

I'd be interested in the original "group commission submission" idea for sketch covers, APs, and PSCs.

You'd probably want to know the artist's schedule and get an estimated completion time. Convention offseason could be a good time. Maybe get pricing quotes based on the item format and the number of buyers/items sold(sample below):

Base Price | @5 Items | @10 Items | @20 Items
Sketch Card $40 $36 $34 $32
Artist Proof $80 $72 $68 $64
Sketch Cover $100 $90 $85 $80
(10% off) (15% off) (20% off)

Instead of shipping the artist shipping to each individual member, they could ship to one person and that point person could distribute the items. This could save on out of state shipping and maybe get us a better discount since it would be less of a headache for the artist.


Recommended artists:
Darren Chandler - robomonkey147 (Darren Chandler) - DeviantArt (http://robomonkey147.deviantart.com/)
Denver Brubaker - thecheckeredman (Denver Brubaker) - DeviantArt (http://thecheckeredman.deviantart.com/)
Nestor Celario - JesterretseJ (Nestor Celario Jr) - DeviantArt (http://jesterretsej.deviantart.com/)
Rich Hennemann - artofrichhennemann (http://www.richhennemann.com/)
Cristian Santos - CRISTIAN-SANTOS (cris) - DeviantArt (http://cristian-santos.deviantart.com/)

[ricksam]

@sk .. some of those artists are overseas .. how will that play w the timing of delivery .. what happens if card(s) get lost? .. who covers that

(ive always wondered about the lost issue w BO group breaks)

[Spider-Fan]

@sk .. some of those artists are overseas .. how will that play w the timing of delivery .. what happens if card(s) get lost? .. who covers that

(ive always wondered about the lost issue w BO group breaks)

Actually... The REAL savings would be getting a good rate with somebody like Acar or Tan or Mohd that are overseas, because the cost savings of shipping just one package to the US instead of 20-30 packages would really help bring the price down. Think about it. If it cost $20 to send a registered package from Asia to US, that would come down to $1 per card spread across 20 cards, and then you would add the US shipping to the mix. It would be a $16 discount without even negotiating a better per card rate. If you can get an extra 20% taken off the rate, it would become a real attractive offer for collectors and also be very lucrative for the artists.

Anyway... That is just my perspective.

Re: Group breaks - I know Ian stipulates added costs for shipping to cover insurance on hits over a certain $$ value. I assume that is how they cover themselves.

[ashelton]

Since the other thread got moved...

JJ's draft is now live - http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/join-new-group-breaks-here/837054-grab-bag-sketch-card-hit-draft-blowout-artists.html

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Since the other thread got moved...

JJ's draft is now live - http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/join-new-group-breaks-here/837054-grab-bag-sketch-card-hit-draft-blowout-artists.html

Thanks :) I was just putting the final touches on it.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Going to jack this thread one more time. Lol. The draft is moved to active, so please pay soon. I don't want to have to hunt down the stragglers. :p

[yorkbag]

Going to jack this thread one more time. Lol. The draft is moved to active, so please pay soon. I don't want to have to hunt down the stragglers. :p

If you must hunt down stragglers, please be sure to call your P.I. :) ;)

[jjsmallvillelvr]

If you must hunt down stragglers, please be sure to call your P.I. :) ;)

Will do! Lol. :)!