Goran Dragic has been traded to the Heat

[tristan20]

Goran Dragic has been traded to the Heat, according to multiple sources.
The deal is being finalized and details have yet to emerge, but previous reports suggest that Phoenix will get two first-round picks in exchange for Dragic, who demanded a trade due to unhappiness with his role. He gives the Heat a huge upgrade at point guard and makes them a more dangerous playoff team, and his fantasy value should surge with less competition in Miami. His departure from Phoenix is also terrific news for anyone who owns Isaiah Thomas, as IT3 will now take over the starting PG job alongside Eric Bledsoe.

[Dwade Collector]

Highway robbery.........

[JasonM32]

I wonder where Dragic will end up after the season.

[asujbl]

Thomas was traded. Ennis was traded.

[JasonM32]

Thomas was traded. Ennis was traded.

Is PHX going on tilt? lol.

[exoticprince]

Wade / Bosh /Deng /Dragic / Whiteside. On paper this team shd be top 3-4 in the east.

[tristan20]

Dragic gives the Heat a huge boost, now they need to dump Chalmers

[hazenuts]

Show off your Dragic :)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zCexuWQdZVU/U2G3oK8ZZOI/AAAAAAAAHj8/aT796zwy3Nw/s500/dragic.JPGhttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zXxtlaLO-zM/U2HH46Ctk6I/AAAAAAAAHkY/mhFiNUacC40/s512/IMG_20140430_205800.jpg

[fullmetal]

Wade / Bosh /Deng /Dragic / Whiteside. On paper this team shd be top 3-4 in the east.

You and I could form a team and make the playoffs in the east.

[JasonM32]

You and I could form a team and make the playoffs in the east.

LOl, sad but true.

[exoticprince]

You and I could form a team and make the playoffs in the east.

Lol in my high school days maybe :D

[bigcwd2000]

You and I could form a team and make the playoffs in the east.

That is good stuff. :D:)!

[spurs50fan]

What made this dream backcourt not work out?

[hazenuts]

http://i.imgur.com/xEToAn6.jpg

[theSTAR^]

The Miami Heat received Goran Dragicand Zoran Dragicfrom the Phoenix Suns for Danny Granger, Norris Cole, Justin Hamilton, Shawne Williams and two first-round picks. I knew about the Morris brothers...but 4 brothers!!! On the Pheonix Suns until today. That's a first for me.

[jj2]

Riley comes through with the goods again.

Wade / Bosh /Deng /Dragic / Whiteside. On paper this team shd be top 3-4 in the east.

The only problem is that Wade's knees are about as good as useless these days.

[IamRalpho]

What a great trade by the Heat, wow. They are f*cking coming in the East

****************if everyone is healthy

[asujbl]

The NBA is messing their pants at the thought of a Heat vs. Cavs matchup at any point during the Playoffs.

Kyrie vs. Dragic
Smith (or perhaps Shumpert) vs. Wade
LeBron vs. Deng
Love vs. Bosh
Mozgov vs. Whiteside

[BoxBreaker72]

Highway robbery.........

For who?

The Suns cleaned up here. He wasn't coming back and they got multiple 1st round picks for 30 games of Goran..

When you consider the situation, the Suns killed it.

[asujbl]

For who?

The Suns cleaned up here. He wasn't coming back and they got multiple 1st round picks for 30 games of Goran..

When you consider the situation, the Suns killed it.

If you ignore the fact that the Suns screwed it up since the beginning. They shouldn't have been in this situation to begin with.

[BoxBreaker72]

If you ignore the fact that the Suns screwed it up since the beginning. They shouldn't have been in this situation to begin with.

It is what it is.

[IamRalpho]

Suns never shoulda signed Thomas, but I agree the Suns got a good return and the Heat got a lethal weapon for picks and spare parts.

Imagine the return the Suns coulda had if they werent painted into a corner by Dragic?

[asujbl]

Suns never shoulda signed Thomas, but I agree the Suns got a good return and the Heat got a lethal weapon for picks and spare parts.

Imagine the return the Suns coulda had if they werent painted into a corner by Dragic?

Imagine what the Suns could be if they hadn't paid Bledsoe, paid Thomas, and drafted Ennis...

All while Dragic was on the team :D

[alanlam]

Dragic is 5 months from signing a 5 year max deal. I'd avoid that contract like the plague. Even with the increased cap in mind, theres no way he's gonna be worth the 25 million he gets when he's 34.

He's not a great 3 pt shooter. Last year looks like an outlier. Those kinda guards tend to age poorly.

[IamRalpho]

Imagine what the Suns could be if they hadn't paid Bledsoe, paid Thomas, and drafted Ennis...

All while Dragic was on the team :D

If healthy I like Bledsoe better than all of em, but that was just a bad job by McDonough getting all those point guards and then saying "Now what"?

[JasonM32]

Imagine what the Suns could be if they hadn't paid Bledsoe, paid Thomas, and drafted Ennis...

All while Dragic was on the team :D

Bingo. The press in AZ right now is trying to paint Dragic as a selfish player who doesn't care about winning. What a f**king joke. They are just covering for the Suns front office and how bad they botched things up.

PHX got a decent return for him but now they are trading everyone. From the outside it looks like they are out of control. I'm interested to see what happens when the smoke clears.

[asujbl]

If healthy I like Bledsoe better than all of em, but that was just a bad job by McDonough getting all those point guards and then saying "Now what"?

Well I do as well if I was just picking.

But the process of accumulating them all was a mess from the beginning.

[blastman]

don't forget about Zoran

[tristan20]

don't forget about Zoran

You Don't Mess With The Zoran

[duwal]

Smart move by Miami, with the last two spots in the East highly contested between 6 teams they needed something to help try and pull them away from the other teams

[gonygo]

Smart move by Miami, with the last two spots in the East highly contested between 6 teams they needed something to help try and pull them away from the other teams

Agreed. Maybe he will start playing like his old self again..Goran is fun to watch

[crackberry]

what a steal by MIA
looks like Suns got the memo from the NBA to start tanking so OKC can get that last playoff spot

[ninjacookies]

Goran is a HUGE upgrade over what they had (Chalmers isn't a true pg, and well...Napier is just NOT good and his draft stock was boosted by his college team's run, imo). Goran should do very well there, especially since Wade is so injury prone, so he can fill the scoring void if need be.


Suns just have absolutely zero clue on how to utilize pg's. It's been a pg-by-committee system since Nash left. No bueno.

[miamitrev2]

Dragic gives the Heat a huge boost, now they need to dump Chalmers

Why? He's now a backup thats paid like a backup.

[DalliLlama11]

Why? He's now a backup thats paid like a backup.

yea, i like chalmers. he gets a lot of heat (pun intended) but hes definitely a serviceable backup, and prior to the finals last year he played very well (in which case the entire team was crap except lbj). heck, with wade out, chalmers was the only person that would ever attack the rim and draw fouls, now at least dragic can do that, and with chalmers going against backups instead of starters, he may have even more success.

[miamitrev2]

yea, i like chalmers. he gets a lot of heat (pun intended) but hes definitely a serviceable backup, and prior to the finals last year he played very well (in which case the entire team was crap except lbj). heck, with wade out, chalmers was the only person that would ever attack the rim and draw fouls, now at least dragic can do that, and with chalmers going against backups instead of starters, he may have even more success.

Backup SG some nights he will start hot and give the team 15 points off the bench and get more minutes, other nights he will get 5-6 points and Tyler Johnson will get to play.

I wish the Heat would give Beasley another chance as we need bench scoring but thats for another thread

[crackberry]

Dragic is 5 months from signing a 5 year max deal. I'd avoid that contract like the plague. Even with the increased cap in mind, theres no way he's gonna be worth the 25 million he gets when he's 34.

He's not a great 3 pt shooter. Last year looks like an outlier. Those kinda guards tend to age poorly.

while I agree that Suns have to take what they can get before he bails for nothing

non-athletic, skillful PG who don't pick up the dribble ageing poorly? don't think so!

[jova888]

definitely a good pick up for the heat

[bdrr]

Like this deal for the Heat. Big question is whether Zoran will get playing time now that he's not blocked by the Morris twins and 3-guard sets.

[CP3toOKC]

What is wrong with the PHX Suns?! They traded both their starting PG and backup PG! Who does that? They were contenders but now their team chemistry is shoddy when they lost the PG who is the playmaker for the team. UGH

[alanlam]

while I agree that Suns have to take what they can get before he bails for nothing

non-athletic, skillful PG who don't pick up the dribble ageing poorly? don't think so!

Name some PGs that were successful in their mid 30s with an average to below average 3 pt shot. Name one worth the max.

Kidd is the only one that comes to mind, but Dragic isn't as skilled, and Kidd developed a pretty good 3pt shot the last third of his career. He also wasn't worth the max.

This is a great short term move that could, and probably will, hurt in the long term.

[miamitrev2]

Name some PGs that were successful in their mid 30s with an average to below average 3 pt shot. Name one worth the max.

Kidd is the only one that comes to mind, but Dragic isn't as skilled, and Kidd developed a pretty good 3pt shot the last third of his career. He also wasn't worth the max.

This is a great short term move that could, and probably will, hurt in the long term.

He's only 28. If he was 35 now Id be concerned. Im thrilled that the Heat made some moves instead of just riding things out instead of waiting until 2016
Heat havent been built around a scoring PG since Tim Hardaway so thats just a bonus

[alanlam]

He's only 28. If he was 35 now Id be concerned. Im thrilled that the Heat made some moves instead of just riding things out instead of waiting until 2016
Heat havent been built around a scoring PG since Tim Hardaway so thats just a bonus

Agree with all of this. My comments were regarding him getting a max deal. He's a good player. You guys should be pumped.

[Andy5]

What is wrong with the PHX Suns?! They traded both their starting PG and backup PG! Who does that? They were contenders but now their team chemistry is shoddy when they lost the PG who is the playmaker for the team. UGH

They've still got Bledsoe and brought in Brandon Knight. I agree that they're no longer contenders, especially with OKC storming.

[kairi-2008]

nice trade by Miami

[crackberry]

Name some PGs that were successful in their mid 30s with an average to below average 3 pt shot. Name one worth the max.

Kidd is the only one that comes to mind, but Dragic isn't as skilled, and Kidd developed a pretty good 3pt shot the last third of his career. He also wasn't worth the max.

This is a great short term move that could, and probably will, hurt in the long term.

dragic is only 28

hmmm 36% career give or take is below average???

while he is no nash or stockton. dragic hasn't even reached his prime yet. these kinda guards don't peak till their early 30s and age the best

[440shane]

I totally understand Dragic is a very good PG and his role and usage on Phoenix got really skewed this year when they surprisingly brought in Isiah Thomas. That said, I'm at a loss with all this fawning going over Riley and the Heat as if he just landed Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Kyrie Irving, John Wall, Marc Gasol, Damian Lillard, Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, Kevin Love, Andrew Wiggins, etc. It was Goran Dragic, whom I've already said is a very good player but this hyperbolic praising is head scratching. Saw all the writers (not fan posters) on RealGM say the Heat are now instant title contenders (pre Bosh news) really? Because of Dragic? Simmons losing his mind saying they have the best starting 5 in the East now?? Did everyone forget about the Hawks, Cavs, Raptors and Bulls? Sorry Wizards just don't see it this year. What am I missing about Dragic joining the Heat that is going to make them a threat to win the East now (pre Bosh news of course). Wade can barely play as it is, they traded what little depth they had to make this and the Norris Cole trade happen. Is Hassan Whiteside really going to continue to put up Moses Malone numbers and learn not to foul as much? Was Bosh going to magically get back on track because if you look at his production there is a clear line of good and not so good that coincides with the arrival of Whiteside. Was he going to get better and Whiteside be damned and meanwhile Whiteside still continue to do what he had been doing? I get that Dragic is good and exactly what they needed, but already committing to maxing him this summer for 5 yrs/100+ million with old Wade, Bosh and Deng, is going to put them back on top now? Would anyone trade LeBron for Deng, Dragic and I suppose Whiteside in real NBA not fantasy? That's essentially what happened in Miami and the answer is no of course not, but after this trade Miami is the "favorite" in the East as per some national writers, huh? So you lose LeBron and replace him with good players but now have to go through LeBron and the Spurs East (Hawks) just to get to the finals. None of this adds up to me

[alanlam]

So you lose LeBron and replace him with good players but now have to go through LeBron and the Spurs East (Hawks) just to get to the finals. None of this adds up to me

I do not approve of this portion of your post. HOW DARE YOU

[miamitrev2]

I totally understand Dragic is a very good PG and his role and usage on Phoenix got really skewed this year when they surprisingly brought in Isiah Thomas. That said, I'm at a loss with all this fawning going over Riley and the Heat as if he just landed Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Kyrie Irving, John Wall, Marc Gasol, Damian Lillard, Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, Kevin Love, Andrew Wiggins, etc. It was Goran Dragic, whom I've already said is a very good player but this hyperbolic praising is head scratching. Saw all the writers (not fan posters) on RealGM say the Heat are now instant title contenders (pre Bosh news) really? Because of Dragic? Simmons losing his mind saying they have the best starting 5 in the East now?? Did everyone forget about the Hawks, Cavs, Raptors and Bulls? Sorry Wizards just don't see it this year. What am I missing about Dragic joining the Heat that is going to make them a threat to win the East now (pre Bosh news of course). Wade can barely play as it is, they traded what little depth they had to make this and the Norris Cole trade happen. Is Hassan Whiteside really going to continue to put up Moses Malone numbers and learn not to foul as much? Was Bosh going to magically get back on track because if you look at his production there is a clear line of good and not so good that coincides with the arrival of Whiteside. Was he going to get better and Whiteside be damned and meanwhile Whiteside still continue to do what he had been doing? I get that Dragic is good and exactly what they needed, but already committing to maxing him this summer for 5 yrs/100+ million with old Wade, Bosh and Deng, is going to put them back on top now? Would anyone trade LeBron for Deng, Dragic and I suppose Whiteside in real NBA not fantasy? That's essentially what happened in Miami and the answer is no of course not, but after this trade Miami is the "favorite" in the East as per some national writers, huh? So you lose LeBron and replace him with good players but now have to go through LeBron and the Spurs East (Hawks) just to get to the finals. None of this adds up to me

Did not read. LOL
The Heat arent going to win the East its the Cavs and then everyone else.
With Bosh they could beat everyone else but we wont see it this year

[miamitrev2]

Wade can barely play yet he is scoring 21 PPG?
You Cleveland basketball chicks crack me up

[440shane]

Wade can barely play yet he is scoring 21 PPG?
You Cleveland basketball chicks crack me up


Just because Wade is averaging 21ppg doesn't mean he's actually healthy or will be going forward. You are using a per game stat to prove what? That when he plays he can score, ok....

Here to give another perspective from a non Cleveland fan, since MiamiTrev is all about the Cavs. Speaking of the Cavs where you been in the Cavs threads lately since they are winning???

In Acquiring Dragic, Have The Heat Jeopardised Hassan Whiteside? | BBALLBREAKDOWN (http://bballbreakdown.com/2015/02/20/in-acquiring-dragic-have-the-heat-jeopardised-hassan-whiteside/)

[miamitrev2]

Just because Wade is averaging 21ppg doesn't mean he's actually healthy or will be going forward. You are using a per game stat to prove what? That when he plays he can score, ok....

Here to give another perspective from a non Cleveland fan, since MiamiTrev is all about the Cavs. Speaking of the Cavs where you been in the Cavs threads lately since they are winning???

In Acquiring Dragic, Have The Heat Jeopardised Hassan Whiteside? | BBALLBREAKDOWN (http://bballbreakdown.com/2015/02/20/in-acquiring-dragic-have-the-heat-jeopardised-hassan-whiteside/)

Wade has played more games this year than Durant this year but no one speculates if "he's actually healthy or will be going forward."

Since Im bored maybe I will go back through your post and break down how stupid it is line by line but for now I just wonder why you are trying to Shyt on the Heat. Its like you are worried about them beating the Cavs or something

And No, Riley wouldnt have made this deal if it jeopardized Whiteside....if you havent noticed the Salary Cap is going up

[Nyfancam01]

buyer on ebay bought one of my Dragic cards a few days ago and still hasn't paid.... messaged me today (after he was traded from suns)

"I didn't know I place a bid on this item. I just seen in my cart. Can you waive the item and I'll accept. My apologies idk how that happen sir!"

Nope! he placed the bid and I am not going to cancel. Clearly he just doesn't want to pay since he was traded.
I will let him take the unpaid strike.

[miamitrev2]

I totally understand Dragic is a very good PG
Yes, yes he is
That said, I'm at a loss with all this fawning going over Riley and the Heat as if he just landed Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Kyrie Irving, John Wall, Marc Gasol, Damian Lillard, Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, Kevin Love, Andrew Wiggins, etc.
Heat got a very good player at their weakest position
It was Goran Dragic, whom I've already said is a very good player but this hyperbolic praising is head scratching. Saw all the writers (not fan posters) on RealGM say the Heat are now instant title contenders (pre Bosh news) really? Because of Dragic?
They have a chance to make the East Finals if they avoid the Cavs in the early rounds
Simmons losing his mind saying they have the best starting 5 in the East now?? Did everyone forget about the Hawks, Cavs, Raptors and Bulls?
Heat have already beaten the Cavs and they also beat the Bulls on the road last month
Wade can barely play as it is,
Thats Just Stupid
they traded what little depth they had
Granger is the only "depth" they traded away and he can be replaced. Williams and Hamilton were just dead weight filler
Is Hassan Whiteside really going to continue to put up Moses Malone numbers and learn not to foul as much?
Hes played 25 games and hasnt fouled out yet. Im not clear on Malone #s but he is Avg 10 PPG and almost 9 RPG I bet he does keep those #s up as long as he plays Center
Was Bosh going to magically get back on track because if you look at his production there is a clear line of good and not so good that coincides with the arrival of Whiteside.
Bosh has actually been more productive since Whiteside arrived
Would anyone trade LeBron for Deng, Dragic and I suppose Whiteside in real NBA not fantasy
Now you are clearly reaching. Every team the NBA would want Lebron.
The question is really: Would you rather have Cole/Williams/Hamilton/Granger
(which is what the HEAT had to start the season) or Dragic/Whiteside. Answer is obvious...the trade made the Heat better
after this trade Miami is the "favorite" in the East as per some national writers, huh? So you lose LeBron and replace him with good players but now have to go through LeBron and the Spurs East (Hawks) just to get to the finals. None of this adds up to me Noone is saying the Heat are the "favorite" but they would certainly have had a shot vs anyone but the Cavs if healthy

cool story bro

[440shane]

cool story bro


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It could be the presence of Hassan Whiteside, or the mid-December calf strain that kept him out for eight games, but Chris Bosh has offered some unusually empty stat lines as of late. Sure, he's still scoring at a 20-ppg clip, and he's hitting 1.4 3-pointers per game, but he's averaged just 5.6 rebounds, 0.7 steals and 0.3 blocks in his past 19 games. To make matters worse, with his newfound 3-point shooting ability, Bosh's field goal percentage has hovered in the 43 to 44 percent range during that span. Essentially, his numbers look like a slightly less-efficient Dirk Nowitzki (who has been offering empty stat lines himself). Nowitzki has averaging 18.3 points, 6.0 boards, 0.5 steals, 0.5 blocks and 1.3 3-pointers on the season but remains a quality fantasy play thanks to his percentages.

Nice try though.

[JasonM32]

Who is driving this philosophy in PHX where they want 2 point guards starting together instead of a point guard and shooting guard? Why do they think this is a good idea? It worked so-so with Dragic and Bledsoe. It worked like crap with Dragic, Bledsoe and Thomas. Now we have Bledsoe and Knight who are both only about 6'1".

What the hell is going on in their front office? What are they trying to do?

[miamitrev2]

[QUOTE=440shane;8795894]
Nice try though.[/QUOTE

Must suck for the Heat to be living in your head. I bet it will take more than 1 title by the Cavs for your bitterness to go away wont it?

I'll do my part to make sure the Cavs win nothing by betting as much money as I can on them:p