Most overrated player in the NBA.

[mr.gem.mint]

Now let's see if we can do this. Each member will post who they think the most overrated player in the NBA is. You will ONLY give the players name. Not your opinion or an argument for your player or another player you may like, etc. And this can be for ANY reason. It can be overrated in comparison to how high they are put on a pedestal ow whatever reason you want. Just name one player. First names, last name.

1

damn

player.


Stephen Curry

[ReggieEvansPC]

Chandler Parsons

[Jpayne7787]

Russel Westbrook

[Andy5]

James Harden

[popmaz]

Derrick Rose

[imcominghome]

Obviously it's lebron, I Mean the Cavaliers were nothing last year, look at them this year

[tristan20]

Joakim Noah

[EMD34]

James Harden

Russel Westbrook

No.

Joakim Noah

Only by Bulls fans, everyone else seems to have a pretty reasonable opinion of him.

[miamitrev2]

Giannis Antetokounmpo

[EMD34]

Draymond Green

[mr.gem.mint]

No.



Only by Bulls fans, everyone else seems to have a pretty reasonable opinion of him.

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[EMD34]

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You didn't say anything about talking about other people's choices

[elee712]

Jamal crawford

[ballahollic2]

Demar Derozan

[Wings]

Kevin Love

[enbambam6986]

Chris Paul

[SHowley2003]

Current stars over the course of their career: Carmelo

Stars that are overrated based on current performance vs perceived value: Kobe

[IronMonkey415]

http://i58.tinypic.com/equqoh.jpg

[IronMonkey415]

I just wanted to post that picture that I found on youtube.

[Wolves4Life]

Kevin Love

How is he overrated? No one besides Wolves fans when he was here hyped him up. Even media barely talked about him.

[Sauceman]

Carmelo. Anthony.

[Wings]

How is he overrated? No one besides Wolves fans when he was here hyped him up. Even media barely talked about him.

Media didn't barely talk about him. He was a stat whore on a bad team.

[bkcardcollector]

Brandon Knight

[bdrr]

Carmelo, by far.

[rauchand]

Easy....Derrick Rose

[nissandriver77]

So Far Kevin Durant .

According to most of the Opinions you have to win , he hasn't so to me he is overrated just a high volume scorer like Carmelo so far .

[xavieronly1]

zach lavine

[bigcwd2000]

Chris Paul

This would be my choice also.

[sportzluvr1]

Chris Paul

[nissandriver77]

Chris Paul

As a second option I would say Cp3 aswell , He needs to step up to the next level .

[duron]

Carmelo. Anthony.

Agreed, and this is coming from a Knick fan.

[tristan20]

Let me add Tony Parker

[drob50]

Current stars over the course of their career: Carmelo

Stars that are overrated based on current performance vs perceived value: Kobe

Not everyone gets 'valued' on their playing ability, some are valued on their profitability! Teams are businesses!

[SHowley2003]

Let me add Tony Parker

Wow, I put him in the most underrated. Not overrated.

[drob50]

Let me add Tony Parker

Wow, I put him in the most underrated. Not overrated.

This year he is well underperforming, but that is due to injuries and time out. Hope he gets his rhythm back.

But yeah, over his career, he is underrated!

[drob50]

I think Chris Paul is NOT overrated. I don't really like his game, but he is as good a court Marshall as you can ask for.

Deandre Jordan on the other hand is way overrated!!

[currycurrycurry]

Now let's see if we can do this. Each member will post who they think the most overrated player in the NBA is. You will ONLY give the players name. Not your opinion or an argument for your player or another player you may like, etc. And this can be for ANY reason. It can be overrated in comparison to how high they are put on a pedestal ow whatever reason you want. Just name one player. First names, last name.

1

damn

player.


Stephen Curry

You must be new to basketball.

[OKCThunder35]

mr.unintelligent, your most overrated player is schooling the Spurs right now.

[nissandriver77]

I think Chris Paul is NOT overrated. I don't really like his game, but he is as good a court Marshall as you can ask for.

Deandre Jordan on the other hand is way overrated!!

Yes in that sense , But he can score and get whatever shot he want's , he needs to take over games more often .

Since he came to the Clipps he has sacrificed for the others such as Blake and Jamal where as on the Hornets he was running the show .

He needs to realize he is the man and to turn on the scoring when he has to.

DJ Is an animal , His numbers are Outstanding , his flaws are FT shooting no doubt , if and only if he can shoot 70% from the line he will be a complete beast .

Don't forget DJ's Role is Defend and Rebound not score

[OKCThunder35]

Steph Curry makes me like him more and more every time I watch him.

[bas]

James harden

[SHowley2003]

Watching the game right now I have to add D. Cousins to my list.

[rrljab]

Dwight Howard

[mr.gem.mint]

You must be new to basketball.

Was all state in high school, played D1 college, and semi pro for 3 years but you're right.

an opinion is just that, an opinion.

[tristan20]

Watching the game right now I have to add D. Cousins to my list.

Wow Cousins? Don't think any other center can handle the ball like he does, not to mention he eats other centers.

[GoJays]

Deron Williams.

[pingbling23]

Kawhi Leonard. I still don't understand how he is the future of the franchise? He is a solid starter, but not someone you build a franchise around.

[JasonM32]

Derrick Rose.

[blastman]

Joakim Noah

[SHowley2003]

Wow Cousins? Don't think any other center can handle the ball like he does, not to mention he eats other centers.

He's definitely a talented player. However I've heard media members place him in the top 10 in the league. I don't see it. I'm in Boston so I see limited of him. I'm just watching him act like he is taking over the game and leading his team to a win but just not actually doing it. And that's against a Celtics team who is depending on Tyker Zeller, James Young and Jae Crowder.

[tacoma34]

CARMELO ANTHONY, by far.

He is the most expensive turd in the NBA and a terrible player to try to build a team around.

[blastman]

Paul George

[Kingschwab4215]

Timothy Duncan

[Andy5]

I get the feeling some members are basing their choices from the Spurs v Warriors game right now...

[SHowley2003]

Timothy Duncan

????? A first ballet HOFer, 5x NBA Champion, 15x All-Star over a 17 year career is over-rated. What else do we expect?

[tristan20]

Oh this is my final one, RONDO

[Cheken]

Ill play too. Seems like names are just being thrown out there lol

Raymond Felton

[drob50]

Timothy Duncan

Only took 28 posts to show your complete lack of credibility! Nicely done:)!

[Kingschwab4215]

Only took 28 posts to show your complete lack of credibility! Nicely done:)!

Hey, I knew going in that the hate would come! That's fine, and I stand by it.

[ragingbull]

Dwight Howard

[rttrffg2012]

Carmelo Anthony

Gets his 25 points,
takes 35 shots,
3 assists,
4 rebounds,
goes home and thinks of himself as a business man

[limitedplay]

Lillard or John Wall

[slugger22]

Hey, I knew going in that the hate would come! That's fine, and I stand by it.

Welcome Kevin Garnett to the forum !

[eastbayak]

Carmelo Anthony

[eastbayak]

Carmelo Anthony

Gets his 25 points,
takes 35 shots,
3 assists,
4 rebounds,
goes home and thinks of himself as a business man

you forgot to mention, team loses 95% of the time

[OMG]

Deron Williams.

How is he overrated ? No one ever talks about him nowadays , there is no hype around him , ever since he left utah and struggling in Brooklyn he lost alot of hobby love and attention from the fans , no one is expecting him to win anything nowadays .

Dwight Howard

After the horrible season he had in LA , everyones expectations of Howard are down , people use to believe this guy will be the next big center to revive the game and now they came to their senses , hes just a good big man , nothing special imo , no one is expecting any mvp or rings from him anytime soon .

[rookies]

Damian Lillard?? Amazed nobody says him? Also of course Melo and cp3

[SK40]

Lebron James.

[drob50]

Hey, I knew going in that the hate would come! That's fine, and I stand by it.

the reason you knew you would get hate is because it is a terrible nomination! lol

[rttrffg2012]

Lebron James.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p123/FFantasygrl/Joker/lawlbatmanepic.jpg

[Rabie1]

Deron Williams.

[JMPKCP]

Chris Paul
Carmelo Anthony
James Harden
D-Rose

4-way tie

[spurs50fan]

Timothy Duncan

I plead da FIF

[TheCelticsfan29]

Kawhi Leonard. who else shoots 1-11? guy will be out of the league in 3 years

[OKCThunder35]

Kawhi Leonard. who else shoots 1-11? guy will be out of the league in 3 years

One bad game does not define a career. I think he will become a perennial all star.

[oldgoldy97]

Carmelo.

Anyone saying Duncan obviously doesn't watch, play or understand the game of basketball.

[spurs50fan]

Kawhi Leonard. who else shoots 1-11? guy will be out of the league in 3 years

Agreed :D

[bestgrizzfan11]

Carmelo Anthony or Deandre Jordan

[NBAFREAK02]

I really like Harden and Curry, but definitely those two players...

[Sauceman]

To the guy who said Duncan...walk into traffic.

[Hoopsman]

Carmelo. Anthony.

[johncaso]

Timothy Duncan

lol he is a top 20 all-time player with 5 rings

[ziggyz129]

Ricky Rubio

[Kingschwab4215]

Guys, FWIW: you CAN be an all-time great and be overrated. It's brought up with Wilt all the time. Again: I stand by Duncan and realize that's an unpopular opinion. He's an all-time great, but I DO consider him to be overrated.

[yankeesfan24]

Kyle Lowry

[IronMonkey415]

Mitch McGary

[EMD34]

lol he is a top 20 all-time player with 5 rings

So you think he's overrated too. Most people have him in the top 10 (some in the top 5).

I think he's pretty close to properly rated. I'd put him in the 9-12 range (I don't see how some people put him ahead of Hakeem and Shaq).

[Litwing]

Carmelon is a all-time overrated player, he wins this no doubt.

kawhi as a final mvp also is so bad these few games that parker never give him the ball.

[Codyfinesse]

James Harden.

[volblorx8634]

Carmelo Anthony

[Wooten11]

Chandler parsons

[pacnico]

Chris Paul

[Sauceman]

Guys, FWIW: you CAN be an all-time great and be overrated. It's brought up with Wilt all the time. Again: I stand by Duncan and realize that's an unpopular opinion. He's an all-time great, but I DO consider him to be overrated.

This statement is true, but absolutely does not apply in the case of Duncan. I am a Spurs fan, yes, but Duncan is not mentioned in the class of players he deserves to be mentioned with. So, I do not understand how he can be "overrated".

[Gbulldogs1010]

Melo, Chris Paul and Chandler Parsons.

[chitownbears22]

Kevin Durant

[IronMonkey415]

Harrison Barnes


Everyone is throwing random names out so I want to join the fun......but this is kinda true.

[IronMonkey415]

Rodney Stuckey

[duron]

Melo wins, thread complete.

[oldgoldy97]

Guys, FWIW: you CAN be an all-time great and be overrated. It's brought up with Wilt all the time. Again: I stand by Duncan and realize that's an unpopular opinion. He's an all-time great, but I DO consider him to be overrated.

I guess I'd like to see your idea of rating.

I think you are confusing it with liking or disliking a player.

[SpursMan9]

Wow, I put him in the most underrated. Not overrated.


Agreed, and not just because I'm a Spurs fan. TP is NEVER in the conversation when it comes to elite guards. Underrated is an understatement!

[SpursMan9]

This statement is true, but absolutely does not apply in the case of Duncan. I am a Spurs fan, yes, but Duncan is not mentioned in the class of players he deserves to be mentioned with. So, I do not understand how he can be "overrated".

I simply don't understand how any of the Spurs names come up in this thread. Until this last title, unless you were a fan, you wouldn't even think the Spurs existed. Now that they are somewhat getting their due, they're overrated? Laughable!!

[EMD34]

I simply don't understand how any of the Spurs names come up in this thread. Until this last title, unless you were a fan, you wouldn't even think the Spurs existed. Now that they are somewhat getting their due, they're overrated? Laughable!!

Please, the only one that deserves "their due" is Popovich (and Duncan to an extent). Every player that plays for him plays to the absolute best of their abilities. No player on the Spurs would play as well as they are playing for any other team in the league.

[Braswell10]

Lillard or John Wall

How is Wall overrated? He is the heart and soul of the Wizards.

[SpursMan9]

Please, the only one that deserves "their due" is Popovich (and Duncan to an extent). Every player that plays for him plays to the absolute best of their abilities. No player on the Spurs would play as well as they are playing for any other team in the league.

You're kidding right? That's quite a big assumption! So you're telling me that if Parker played on a team say like GS, or another team that really liked to push the tempo, he wouldn't kill it? Please man. Or the fact that Manu has such a unique style and skills set that he wouldn't play well on any other team? He seemed to play just fine leading Team Argentina to a Gold medal and dispatching an AllStar line up of NBA stars in the process.

If anything, Pop keeps guys from really letting their "true" abilities loose for the sake of the system and playing as a team. Stick a guy like Parker on a crap team and say do your thing, he may have led the league in scoring at some point.

The Spurs as a whole deserve their due and are finally being recognized for the great organization they are. It's just taken 15 years

[rats60]

Derrick Rose, by far.

[EMD34]

You're kidding right? That's quite a big assumption! So you're telling me that if Parker played on a team say like GS, or another team that really liked to push the tempo, he wouldn't kill it? Please man. Or the fact that Manu has such a unique style and skills set that he wouldn't play well on any other team? He seemed to play just fine leading Team Argentina to a Gold medal and dispatching an AllStar line up of NBA stars in the process.

If anything, Pop keeps guys from really letting their "true" abilities loose for the sake of the system and playing as a team. Stick a guy like Parker on a crap team and say do your thing, he may have led the league in scoring at some point.

The Spurs as a whole deserve their due and are finally being recognized for the great organization they are. It's just taken 15 years

Manu and Parker would still have been good players, but I really doubt they would have been as good.

[drobfan8]

Tim Duncan 21pts/20rebs/10asts/8blks in a FINALS game. So overrated.

I'm amazed. For years and years through the 00s not many basketball watchers even rated him. So to say he's overrated is just amazing and to be honest, dumb. Yes, you have no idea about basketball and you probably have never played at any DECENT level.

I like the Kawhi call. He had an amazing series in the Finals and right now isn't backing that up.

Mine is either Melo or CP3. I like both but they're yet to do much at the Playoff level.

[drobfan8]

Please, the only one that deserves "their due" is Popovich (and Duncan to an extent). Every player that plays for him plays to the absolute best of their abilities. No player on the Spurs would play as well as they are playing for any other team in the league.

Wow, people are sick of the Spurs again, ha ha. This reminds me of the 10 years before the last 2.

Of course they owe Pop something.

But the Spurs draft talented guys. Parker was a French International and Manu an Argentinian National BEFORE they were drafted, they were no scrubs turned in to gold.

Duncan was a star from day 1, a polished star. He automatically went in to a rivalry with Shaq and the Lakers.

I'm amazed.

And Duncan may or may not be ahead of Hakeem and Shaq, but he's 100% in the conversation with those guys.

How about this. Shaq and Kobe had not won until they played for Phil Jackson, therefore they're only who they are because of Phil?

Same with Jordan. He owes it all to Phil.

[tacoma34]

Hahaha Duncan really?! I would put him as more of underrated. Every year, not many talk about the Spurs until the end of the season and playoffs when they are wrecking every team. Then people finally talk about how good Duncan is and then it returns to silence when the next season starts up.

To say Duncan is overrated is kinda like saying boobs are overrated. You can make a solid argument that they are, but at the end of the day, it just doesn't make much sense.

[kairi-2008]

Carmelo. Anthony.

Has to be Carmelo, mega bucks and the worst team ever to play in NY, worst team in the NBA year.


A lot choices here are based on personal opinion.

[SpursMan9]

Wow, people are sick of the Spurs again, ha ha. This reminds me of the 10 years before the last 2.

Of course they owe Pop something.

But the Spurs draft talented guys. Parker was a French International and Manu an Argentinian National BEFORE they were drafted, they were no scrubs turned in to gold.

Duncan was a star from day 1, a polished star. He automatically went in to a rivalry with Shaq and the Lakers.

I'm amazed.

And Duncan may or may not be ahead of Hakeem and Shaq, but he's 100% in the conversation with those guys.

How about this. Shaq and Kobe had not won until they played for Phil Jackson, therefore they're only who they are because of Phil?

Same with Jordan. He owes it all to Phil.


I think alot of this has to do with people just not really noticing or taking the time to see what kind of players Tony and Manu are until they win a title. Duncan and the Spurs have the best winning percentage of ANY team in ANY sport since Duncan has come into the league. I can't even fathom how that can put them in the category of overrated. Manu was my favorite player on the Spurs when he came into his own earlier in his Spurs career. He is absolutely an elite level player. As is Tony. I only wish Manu came to the Spurs sooner! He was winning Euro titles and MVPs long before coming to San Antonio. People were forced to notice the Spurs this past season after destroying Lebron (again) and the Heat. Even the casual NBA fan was put on notice on how good the Spurs can be. I've grown to embrace the fact that people don't like the Spurs. If you know anything at all about the game and enjoy watching hoops in its purest form, how do you not LOVE this team?

Hahaha Duncan really?! I would put him as more of underrated. Every year, not many talk about the Spurs until the end of the season and playoffs when they are wrecking every team. Then people finally talk about how good Duncan is and then it returns to silence when the next season starts up.

To say Duncan is overrated is kinda like saying boobs are overrated. You can make a solid argument that they are, but at the end of the day, it just doesn't make much sense.


Well said man!:)!

[bkcardcollector]

To say Duncan is overrated is kinda like saying boobs are overrated. You can make a solid argument that they are, but at the end of the day, it just doesn't make much sense.

hahhah . Thats gold right there

[mr.gem.mint]

Each member will post who they think the most overrated player in the NBA is.




A lot choices here are based on personal opinion.

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[drobfan8]

Hahaha Duncan really?! I would put him as more of underrated. Every year, not many talk about the Spurs until the end of the season and playoffs when they are wrecking every team. Then people finally talk about how good Duncan is and then it returns to silence when the next season starts up.

To say Duncan is overrated is kinda like saying boobs are overrated. You can make a solid argument that they are, but at the end of the day, it just doesn't make much sense.

Ha ha, that analogy is spot on. Bravo.

[Beavers98]

Duncan is by no way over-rated. So underrated for who and what he is.. This guy is Legit player and human being.

There are a minimum of 100 players that I'd say are more overrated than Duncan.


I had to laugh at the Boobs comment.. HA HA nice analogy



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[Specialkmaster]

Tim Duncan overrated?! That has to be one of the most absurd things I've ever seen posted on this forum. The man is almost 40 years old and is still averaging 15 and 10! Top 7-8 player of all-time IMO

[lindeman79]

wrong wrong and some more wrong

Draymond Green

[EMD34]

Wow, people are sick of the Spurs again, ha ha. This reminds me of the 10 years before the last 2.

Of course they owe Pop something.

But the Spurs draft talented guys. Parker was a French International and Manu an Argentinian National BEFORE they were drafted, they were no scrubs turned in to gold.

Duncan was a star from day 1, a polished star. He automatically went in to a rivalry with Shaq and the Lakers.

I'm amazed.

And Duncan may or may not be ahead of Hakeem and Shaq, but he's 100% in the conversation with those guys.

How about this. Shaq and Kobe had not won until they played for Phil Jackson, therefore they're only who they are because of Phil?

Same with Jordan. He owes it all to Phil.

I think it's the other way around. Jackson always had incredibly talented teams, of course they won championships. Jackson is the most overrated coach of all time.

[drobfan8]

I think it's the other way around. Jackson always had incredibly talented teams, of course they won championships. Jackson is the most overrated coach of all time.

No, no, no. By your logic, Jordan was an overrated player that was coached to greatness.

Way to deflect everything else from my reply.

Whilst this thread is largely opinion based, yours is hugely flawed.

[nateadams2]

Michael. Jeffrey. Jordan.

[GoJays]

How is he overrated ? No one ever talks about him nowadays , there is no hype around him , ever since he left utah and struggling in Brooklyn he lost alot of hobby love and attention from the fans , no one is expecting him to win anything nowadays .


Maybe it's the announcers that leave me believing he's still a big name. I've only seen him during Raptors games, but every game they make a point of Deron Williams being a "gamebreaker" and pointing out that he is dangerous. I've never seen him do any of this, and it seems there's always two or three better players on his team. Again, I don't follow the Nets, so I don't know how well-respected he is around the league.

Kyle Lowry

Dude runs the Raptors offense, defense and serves as a second coach, but yeah, he's THE most overrated player in the NBA.

[Hegotgame15]

This thread can only end one way....with that said...LeBron James.:)!

[Rareairx23]

Kenneth faried imo. Carmelo is a close second for me

[BigZigBoom]

Lebron James

[EMD34]

No, no, no. By your logic, Jordan was an overrated player that was coached to greatness.

Way to deflect everything else from my reply.

Whilst this thread is largely opinion based, yours is hugely flawed.

What do you mean by my logic? I think that Pop is the greatest coach of all time and I think Jackson is extremely overrated. So if I think the greatest coach of all time helped his players become the best player that they could become, I automatically think that Jackson is responsible for the success of the greatest player of all time?

And how did I deflect anything? I addressed everything else you said in another post. I never said Manu and Parker were bad players, just that they would not have been as good had they played for anyone else.

[rdleifriaf]

In conclusion, everyone in the league is overrated.

[ljandkg]

Hahaha Duncan really?! I would put him as more of underrated. Every year, not many talk about the Spurs until the end of the season and playoffs when they are wrecking every team. Then people finally talk about how good Duncan is and then it returns to silence when the next season starts up.

To say Duncan is overrated is kinda like saying boobs are overrated. You can make a solid argument that they are, but at the end of the day, it just doesn't make much sense.

I can't believe you said boobs and you haven't been banned yet.

Boobs - underrated.

As for overrated....

Legs.

[bkcardcollector]

In conclusion, everyone in the league is overrated.

haha exactly what I was thinking

I can't believe you said boobs and you haven't been banned yet.

Boobs - underrated.

As for overrated....

Legs.

Im a buttocks man myself

[tacoma34]

I can't believe you said boobs and you haven't been banned yet.

Boobs - underrated.

As for overrated....

Legs.

To each his own. I prefer all limbs intact.

[ReggieEvansPC]

So two of the most highly criticised players in the league, Melo and Rose, are also the most overrated?

Right....

[davechappelle]

Zach Lavine and Giannis

[cmisley]

Klay Thompson

[exoticprince]

Giannis. I used to think Kyrie but it's less the case now.

[Duncancollector]

Lebron James...because he always need superstars in their prime next to him. Very talented guy but not able to lead a team for years in important series.

[chitownbears22]

Lebron James...because he always need superstars in their prime next to him. Very talented guy but not able to lead a team for years in important series.

I would say that most teams that have won championships are full of superstars. There are very few instances where that is not the case. LeBron however did take a bunch of scrubs to the finals with the Cavs a few years back. That guy has done so much with so little in his career, he deserves to be on well built teams.

[Duncancollector]

I would say that most teams that have won championships are full of superstars. There are very few instances where that is not the case. LeBron however did take a bunch of scrubs to the finals with the Cavs a few years back. That guy has done so much with so little in his career, he deserves to be on well built teams.

he is creating his own team year for year for year again. I know what you mean and you are right in a way. But he is not able to go the long way. He played in bad in cleveland years ago. OK. I liked him during this time. But he went to Miami to play in team with Wade, Bosh, Allen..... to go the easiest way to win a championship. And he does it again now in Cleveland. He traded wiggins to Minnesota for Love. He always need a very good supporting cast. Isn't he able to make the players around him better, who are in the team? It is not about one or two trades in a season, but changing nearly a whole team in half a year? So Lebron is great, but he is not a leader, he hides himself behind other all stars and stars. If he is so great, why did not he make bennet to become a star? That is sooooo sad in my mind, because he is sooooo gifted. But he has a weak basketball character.

[tperks76]

he is creating his own team year for year for year again. I know what you mean and you are right in a way. But he is not able to go the long way. He played in bad in cleveland years ago. OK. I liked him during this time. But he went to Miami to play in team with Wade, Bosh, Allen..... to go the easiest way to win a championship. And he does it again now in Cleveland. He traded wiggins to Minnesota for Love. He always need a very good supporting cast. Isn't he able to make the players around him better, who are in the team? It is not about one or two trades in a season, but changing nearly a whole team in half a year? So Lebron is great, but he is not a leader, he hides himself behind other all stars and stars. If he is so great, why did not he make bennet to become a star? That is sooooo sad in my mind, because he is sooooo gifted. But he has a weak basketball character.

Some people have no clue

[EMD34]

Lebron James...because he always need superstars in their prime next to him. Very talented guy but not able to lead a team for years in important series.

LeBron has always dominated in the playoffs, he just never had enough help before he went to Miami. I can count the number of bad playoff games he's had on one hand. Look at his career playoff PER, it's the exact same as his regular season PER, and that's with improved competition.

LeBron James NBA Stats | Basketball-Reference.com (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html)

Nearly every single championship team has had multiple all-stars. The only two I can think of that didn't were Hakeem's 94 Rockets and Dirk's 11 Mavs (though Terry and Chandler were both very good).

[imcominghome]

Lebron is so overrated

[Duncancollector]

LeBron has always dominated in the playoffs, he just never had enough help before he went to Miami. I can count the number of bad playoff games he's had on one hand. Look at his career playoff PER, it's the exact same as his regular season PER, and that's with improved competition.

LeBron James NBA Stats | Basketball-Reference.com (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html)

Nearly every single championship team has had multiple all-stars. The only two I can think of that didn't were Hakeem's 94 Rockets and Dirk's 11 Mavs (though Terry and Chandler were both very good).

He lost the finals 2005 because he was young and his teammates were that good. That is true. He had played great basketball in the Conf. Finals before against the Celtics. You are right so far.

But don't forget: He lost 3 of 5 Finals. Of course reaching 5 finals is really good. But he has played in a really really bad conference all the time.

His PER is good because most of the time he scores very close to the basket. His brilliant body helps him of course.

However: I write this because he is not an avarage player: He is the chosen One. The King.
And a king must be better more succesfull and he must make avarage players to stars. Playing next to other superstars/stars like bosh, wade, allen, and now next to irving, love, j.r. smith......it is ridiculous.
And these teams are no teams like the Spurs, Thunder or the Bulls. They all drafted their star players, aquired 1 to 2 important players and that is. No respect for Lebron in my mind.

I had but I lost respect. Before the Love trade I liked his homecoming too. But now, look at these many trades...

[kairi-2008]

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Based on their personal opinion of the person, not how he has been playing this year.

[drobfan8]

LeBron has always dominated in the playoffs, he just never had enough help before he went to Miami. I can count the number of bad playoff games he's had on one hand. Look at his career playoff PER, it's the exact same as his regular season PER, and that's with improved competition.

LeBron James NBA Stats | Basketball-Reference.com (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html)

Nearly every single championship team has had multiple all-stars. The only two I can think of that didn't were Hakeem's 94 Rockets and Dirk's 11 Mavs (though Terry and Chandler were both very good).

I agree, LeBron has dominated in the Playoffs. Except that time in 2007 and that time against the Mavs where he averaged 2 pts in the 4th qtr and that time last year where Kawhi exposed him.

Personally, even though he's had his struggles, I don't think he's overrated. The guy still has a chance to get to 6 or 7 titles IMO. But I would like to see him go through the West Conference and not the weak East every year.

[bloodwings19]

Lance Stephenson.

[pingbling23]

I agree, LeBron has dominated in the Playoffs. Except that time in 2007 and that time against the Mavs where he averaged 2 pts in the 4th qtr and that time last year where Kawhi exposed him.

Personally, even though he's had his struggles, I don't think he's overrated. The guy still has a chance to get to 6 or 7 titles IMO. But I would like to see him go through the West Conference and not the weak East every year.

dumbest thing ive heard. kawhi had a solid series but lets not get carried away.

[rttrffg2012]

Lebron James is not over rated. Dude is dominant on the court.

He just seems like a princess in real life.

And with ESPN working his name into every conversation, it is easy to see why people would look to degrade him a bit. Seriously, ESPN will be talking about NASCAR and all of a sudden say, "Lebron James likes cars too". FOr no reason, just to say his name. They did this with Tebow and Manziel too.

[IronMonkey415]

Stuckey is the real deal so I take it back.

[oldgoldy97]

So two of the most highly criticised players in the league, Melo and Rose, are also the most overrated?

Right....

They are only highly criticized because they are considered superstars. There aren't too many people criticizing someone like Robbie Hummel because he isn't thought of as being much in the first place.

[jj2]

In conclusion, everyone in the league is overrated.

Also, a player's performance in one game is sufficient to declare them overrated.

[sam11]

Javale McGee

[howethegreat]

Anthony Davis /thread

[killaskrilla]

Kenneth faried imo. Carmelo is a close second for me

As a nuggets fan I can vouch for Faried being overrated. Just hasn't lived up the the 'hype' he had after team USA and such.

[ragingbull]

Nearly every single championship team has had multiple all-stars. The only two I can think of that didn't were Hakeem's 94 Rockets and Dirk's 11 Mavs (though Terry and Chandler were both very good).

How about the Spurs in 2002-03? Don't tell me that at that time DRob was playing at his best. Tony Parker was being schooled by Jason Kidd in the Finals while Popovich was really screaming at him. And Manu? Manu was still inconsistent at that time. Duncan & Popovich really led that team solely on their shoulders.

My only beef with Lebron this year is that why does he have the golden hand to move players in his team? Its as if he is the General Manager of the Cavs and Gilbert is at the sidelines looking in. What gives? He is the best player in the world, but why can't the best player in the world just work with the pieces he is surrounded. I feel that he forced the trade of Wiggins for Love. Can't he win with Wiggins? Wiggins is the #1 pick and has proven to be a good prospect (unlike Anthony Bennett). Why can't Lebron wait and see what the Cavs can give him first before revamping everything.. I am not hating LBJ, I don't think he is overrated. Some Lebron fans who are my friends were ok when he left Cleveland. I was ok when he left Miami. But to move pieces like you own a team to build another "super-team" that will win NOW is cowardice to me, already. At this point, I wonder if LBJ really left Miami to go home and bring glory to Cleveland, or was it him jumping ship to a team with Kyrie Irving in tow, because he feels that DWade & Bosh are washed up?


I had but I lost respect. Before the Love trade I liked his homecoming too. But now, look at these many trades...

Agree. I did like the homecoming. But right now, I am starting to lose my respect for him again, to be honest. But still I don't think LBJ is overrated. He is skilled in all aspects. But winning is not supposed to be easy. You need heart & leadership to win it all. Just look at him, losing in 3 of his 5 finals appearances. 2 of which came from teams (Mavs and Spurs) that were supposed to be bullied by that Miami "super team" that "the Decision" built. And now he is manipulating the Cavs team to his wishes? Haha. Is that heart and leadership for you? Skills-wise he ain't overrated. But his ain't someone that has heart and leadership, IMO.

[Rareairx23]

As a nuggets fan I can vouch for Faried being overrated. Just hasn't lived up the the 'hype' he had after team USA and such.

That was the exact point that made me think of him when I saw this thread

[thepinoymamba]

Deron Williams
Dwight Howard
Joe Johnson
Carmelo Anthony

[TimLaugh]

Kyrie Irving, Westbrook or CP3

[Rabie1]

Kyrie Irving, Westbrook or CP3


Westbrook?! How?!!! Lool

[daeve]

Over his past four games, the point guard is averaging 28.3 points, 10.0 rebounds, 12.0 assists, and 1.3 steals on just 33.3 minutes per contest.

yet he sells for less than pretty much any other superstar, lol. Westbrook is the opposite of overrated.

[DajuanWagner]

Over his past four games, the point guard is averaging 28.3 points, 10.0 rebounds, 12.0 assists, and 1.3 steals on just 33.3 minutes per contest.

yet he sells for less than pretty much any other superstar, lol. Westbrook is the opposite of overrated.




I think some people look at his attitude, facial expressions, interaction with the media, ball-hogged-ness, etc. and see issues. He is a beast on the court, of that there is no doubt. It is just the rest of the package that puts a sour taste in people's mouths..........if he was more humble, professional, and could figure out what position he plays (instead of playing 2 positions at the same time), then maybe people's mindset would change. But at this point in his career, he isn't going to change the package, so it is what it is.........

[tristan20]

Westbrook is on pace with Oscar Robertson to become the second player in NBA history to average 30 points, 10 assists and eight rebounds in a month. If you're under 40 years old, you've never seen this before.

[asujbl]

Westbrook is on pace with Oscar Robertson to become the second player in NBA history to average 30 points, 10 assists and eight rebounds in a month. If you're under 40 years old, you've never seen this before.

That's good for a 48.3 usage rate. He was seen walking around the locker room with no visible limp after the game, so it doesn't look like he is in any danger of missing any action. Westbrook was able to find a tremendous amount of defensive rebounds and he carried the OKC offense tonight, especially in transition. He and teammate Serge Ibaka were No. 1 and 2 in fantasy value since the break. In addition to that, Westbrook is on pace with Oscar Robertson to become the second player in NBA history to average 30 points, 10 assists and eight rebounds in a month. If you're under 40 years old, you've never seen this before. Source: Darnell Mayberry on Twitter Feb 27 - 2:23 AM

[AdamMcDermott88]

I think Chris Paul is NOT overrated. I don't really like his game, but he is as good a court Marshall as you can ask for.

Deandre Jordan on the other hand is way overrated!!

Deandre's contract and card values suggest he isn't fooling anyone. Therefore, he can't be overrated if he isn't highly rated....

[kairi-2008]

Deron Williams
Dwight Howard
Joe Johnson
Carmelo Anthony

hahaha, I forgot about Deron.
In all fairness, hes not overrated anymore, everyone knows he cant play.
But for a couple of years people were living in denial, he was over rated then.
Big time bust.

I also agree DH is far over rated, guy has no heart at all. When your getting bullied by KG, you know your soft.

Carmelo is fresh off a new contract, he was mouthing off about winning and bringing a ring to NY. Is he the second highest player in the NBA ? With the worst record, how can that be topped for incompetence.

[kairi-2008]

Over his past four games, the point guard is averaging 28.3 points, 10.0 rebounds, 12.0 assists, and 1.3 steals on just 33.3 minutes per contest.

yet he sells for less than pretty much any other superstar, lol. Westbrook is the opposite of overrated.

I dont like him, he makes poor decisions and loses his mental control on the game.And many players around the league know it.
BUT
Physically he is Rose but stronger and better held together. A bigger, stronger AI. If your faster than him, he is stronger and plays above you. If you stronger, he blows by you like your sitting on jacks. He can rebound better than nearly any other point or #2 I can think of, he can pass like a true point. And his desire to win is similar to many of the greatest before him.
Physically I see him as the best player ever, mentally though, he is a ticking bomb, and any minute he will implode on his own team with mindless shooting and cuts to the rim regardless of defense. And once his buttons are pushed, he's gone, there's no bringing him back.

[shumpert2190]

I'm gonna have to go with Kyle Lowry and Chris Bosh.

[kairi-2008]

I really like Harden and Curry, but definitely those two players...

Seriously?
Both having career seasons. I would rate them as the two best guards in the NBA, and they are both MVP players.

I'm pretty sure Carmelo gets more money and does less work.

[garrethannah]

Westbrook lovers spouting off monthly stat lines is laughable. The dude is the only offensive weapon for that entire team. He has the ball in his hands everytime down the floor and plays every minute. Hold off on his HOF induction for when he can A) is the best player on his team and B) can have these stats when KD comes back

[GC1980]

Westbrook lovers spouting off monthly stat lines is laughable. The dude is the only offensive weapon for that entire team. He has the ball in his hands everytime down the floor and plays every minute. Hold off on his HOF induction for when he can A) is the best player on his team and B) can have these stats when KD comes back

Westbrook doesn't need to nor should he be putting up these numbers when KD is back. A sign of greatness is being able to step up in times of adversity and lead. Putting the team on your back when they need you is admirable and he is doing just that.

He is one of the more criticized players in the league. All his flaws have been higgligted for years. He is no way overrated.

[garrethannah]

Westbrook doesn't need to nor should he be putting up these numbers when KD is back. A sign of greatness is being able to step up in times of adversity and lead. Putting the team on your back when they need you is admirable and he is doing just that.

He is one of the more criticized players in the league. All his flaws have been higgligted for years. He is no way overrated.

I agree. I don't think he's overrated at all. However, over the last month all the MVP talk has been overboard.

My biggest problem with Westbrook is that I don't think he can co-exist with another star player. Just like Melo or Iverson or any other elite scorer who can only play great if they consistently have the ball in their hands.

[GC1980]

I agree. I don't think he's overrated at all. However, over the last month all the MVP talk has been overboard.

My biggest problem with Westbrook is that I don't think he can co-exist with another star player. Just like Melo or Iverson or any other elite scorer who can only play great if they consistently have the ball in their hands.

I agree to an extent. He has been rather good next to a superstar and has a much more versatile game than people give him credit for. As I type he is working on another triple double and is a plus defender. He keepsbthisbup and gets okc in the playoffs with KD out and the MVP talk is well deserved.

He is a unique talent and not as easy a fit as the other dilute PGs but the man is a top tier talent. He is proving that nightly. IMO he is every bit as good, if not better than harden or curry.

[jeff152380]

Rondo.......

[IronMonkey415]

Westbrook is about to be this generation poor man Big O if he keeps it up.

[imcominghome]

Lebron james

[tjforce]

Westbrook lovers spouting off monthly stat lines is laughable. The dude is the only offensive weapon for that entire team. He has the ball in his hands everytime down the floor and plays every minute. Hold off on his HOF induction for when he can A) is the best player on his team and B) can have these stats when KD comes back

Seriously man. Westbrook is garbage when Durant is on the floor. All he can manage to do is score 24.5 per game with 6.7 rebounds and 7.8 assists.

I mean, those numbers are barely better than Steph Curry's 23.6/4.6/7.9 that he's at for the season.

Phh, anyone could do that.

[shumpert2190]

Westbrook is sooooooo overrated.

People are acting like it's impossible to have three straight triple doubles. It's been done so many times before.

[CubKings]

Westbrook is sooooooo overrated.

People are acting like it's impossible to have three straight triple doubles. It's been done so many times before.

It hasn't happened in like 6 years haha

[shumpert2190]

It hasn't happened in like 6 years haha


I was being sarcastic.

[RYBOWSKI97]

derrick rose

[garrethannah]

Seriously man. Westbrook is garbage when Durant is on the floor. All he can manage to do is score 24.5 per game with 6.7 rebounds and 7.8 assists.

I mean, those numbers are barely better than Steph Curry's 23.6/4.6/7.9 that he's at for the season.

Phh, anyone could do that.

I didn't say he was garbage. You did. His stat lines remind me a lot of Steve Francis or Gilbert Arenas though.

[garrethannah]

Actually Steve Francis is probably the most accurate description of what Westbrook's game is like. You young guys remember Steve Francis right? Wait, what? You don't?

[tjforce]

Actually Steve Francis is probably the most accurate description of what Westbrook's game is like. You young guys remember Steve Francis right? Wait, what? You don't?

Top 3 seasons:

Francis:
Pts: 21.6 21.3 21.0
Ast: 7.0 6.6 6.5
Stl: 1.8 1.8 1.7
All Star appearances: 3
All NBA: 0

Westbrook:
Pts: 26.2 23.6 23.2
Ast: 8.2 8.1 8.0
Stl: 2.0 1.9 1.9
All-Star appearances: 4
All-NBA:3 (4 come the end of this year)

So yes, just like Steve Francis but only superior in almost every important category if he retired today.

[daeve]

the last two names Westbrook joined were MJ and Oscar.... just about the only thing Steve Francis had in common with those two was playing in the NBA...

[bbplaya11]

Some laughable people in this thread, LeBron, curry, cp3, westbrook lol

[DigitalTurk]

Of all time gotta be Grant Hill

I always remember him being injured.

[fezziwig]

Top 3 seasons:

Francis:
Pts: 21.6 21.3 21.0
Ast: 7.0 6.6 6.5
Stl: 1.8 1.8 1.7
All Star appearances: 3
All NBA: 0

Westbrook:
Pts: 26.2 23.6 23.2
Ast: 8.2 8.1 8.0
Stl: 2.0 1.9 1.9
All-Star appearances: 4
All-NBA:3 (4 come the end of this year)

So yes, just like Steve Francis but only superior in almost every important category if he retired today.

Why did you cherry pick stats from all different years? The year Westbrook had 8.2 assist he only scored 16.1 ppg. The two 23ppg seasons he only averaged 5.5 and 7.4 apg. You really should keep season stats intact because they're reflective of the player's role for that season. If you listed out Wilt Chamberlain in the way you did Francis/Westbrook, Wilt would be listed with 50+ ppg and 8+ apg (year he led the NBA) and it would appear like you had listed just a single season.

[asujbl]

Wait...

I thought Kyrie Irving was Steve Francis. When did that change?