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03-20-2015, 05:31 AM

Teaser Gallery: Panini America Breaks Open Two Early Boxes of 2014 Black Gold Football (https://paniniamerica.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/teaser-gallery-panini-america-breaks-open-two-early-boxes-of-2014-black-gold-football/) Mar 19th 2015, 20:25, by Tracy Hackler
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As the well-documented countdown to Panini America’s 2014 Black Gold Football enters its final tantalizing hours, leave it to The Knight’s Lance to provide one more revealing look at the product. Earlier this afternoon, we grabbed the first two finished boxes we could get our hands on for the following Teaser Gallery that takes you card by card through the highly anticipated Black Gold experience.
Boasting some of the nicest designs and most creative concepts of the season, 2014 Black Gold Football promises to be an instant Rookie of the Year favorite — and a powerful penultimate product to set up the grand finale that is 2014 National Treasures Football.

Enjoy the pack-by-pack breakdown and stay tuned to The Knight’s Lance for continued coverage of 2014 Black Gold Football.
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bowefan

03-20-2015, 05:37 AM

I like the cards.

organika

03-20-2015, 06:31 AM

will those manufactured inserts be worth anything? 180 a box right? seems like Panini's response to Triple Threads....except that the base/inserts replace the larger amount of base in TTT.

Overall, they looks nice, and I applaud Panini for changing it up a bit.

milwaukeeb

03-20-2015, 06:57 AM

Wait a minute. That Sammy Watkins looks as though he signed that card in-person. So Panini put those "paper stickers" in the card first then had the player sign them? Why not just have on-card autos, Panini?

oldgoldy97

03-20-2015, 07:06 AM

Frankp2311

03-20-2015, 07:34 AM

The base cards are the best part of this set, they look great. The rest is just rehash.

trixstar

03-20-2015, 07:46 AM

Man those metal team logo things really are a hot pile of garbage.

Skootown

03-20-2015, 08:05 AM

The base cards are the best part of this set, they look great. The rest is just rehash.

Sad but true.

Gonna have to pick up some of those base singles they do look really great.

indyguy

03-20-2015, 08:07 AM

18 cards:
5 base
5 symbol/logo cards
2 triple relic
1 quad relic
1 gold standard

2 autos
2 patch/relic autos

for $360!

EDIT...actually $380. Listed at $190 per box on cardboardconnection.com

03cobrakid

03-20-2015, 09:17 AM

1st box much better then 2nd

xavieronly1

03-20-2015, 09:42 AM

It seems like there is extra work to make symbol/logo cards, but they don't look good.

deltapi1049

03-20-2015, 10:46 AM

It's a trapped auto.

It looks horrendous.

But trapped autos are signed paper first and then inserted into the card after the fact. Panini actually designed the card that way to be hard signed. Its freaking stupid. Typical Panini.

This product, outside of the cards that look like Strata Clear Cuts, looks so terrible I cant even put it into words. What is Black Gold anyways?

When I think of Black Gold, I think of something like a 1970s blacksploitation movie about a jewelry loving female cop who is taking it to the streets and roughing up some jive turkeys.

pejc300

03-20-2015, 10:50 AM

It's a trapped auto.

Actually, I'm not sure about this. If you look at the Sammy auto, it looks like the pen followed the "box" outline...like he did in fact sign the card after it was made. The left side looks like he bumped up against the box and same with the bottom of his signature where the bottom curve follows the curve of the card. terrible. Would be a sick card if it was on card.

Frankp2311

03-20-2015, 10:58 AM

What is Black Gold anyways?

Black gold is slang for oil. Oil is messy. This product is a mess. I see no problems with the name.

jbrandonw

03-20-2015, 11:03 AM

Black gold is slang for oil. Oil is messy. This product is a mess. I see no problems with the name.

Or it could be code for the oil you have to buy seperately in order for these boxes not to hurt so bad.

badsims

03-20-2015, 11:53 AM

Man those metal team logo things really are a hot pile of garbage.

I like the black "B" Logo for AJ Green way more than the gold "G" Logo for Rodgers.

studioU

03-20-2015, 01:32 PM

panther252

03-20-2015, 01:35 PM

Actually, black gold is found in South Dakota and nearby states. It's a notch below 14k gold in purity.

Hence the stickers. :p

DalliLlama11

03-20-2015, 01:43 PM

I'll buy all those "ugly" medal cards of Falcons that you guys pull then :)

panther252

03-20-2015, 01:51 PM

I'll buy all those "ugly" medal cards of Falcons that you guys pull then :)

Be warned my friend, they are ridiculously thick. From what I've gathered, thicker means sellers try charging more for them until one strays off and lists an auction or fair price. I've had two guys try and sell me the generic /149 versions and they both were asking for like $100 because they were "THICK!". I just hope thats not everyone's mentality lol.

jbrandonw

03-20-2015, 01:54 PM

Lol yea I saw someone trying to sell those logo cards for $100. I assumed they were $5-- $10 cards if that.

bedler

03-20-2015, 02:00 PM

I like the look of the gold ink but that ink fades and chips off.....not seeing much value in this product at all

pgisback

03-20-2015, 02:17 PM

Man those metal team logo things really are a hot pile of garbage.

Haha, I was going to say the same thing. They are ugly.

deltapi1049

03-20-2015, 02:29 PM

Actually, black gold is found in South Dakota and nearby states. It's a notch below 14k gold in purity.

I thought that was Black HILLS gold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hills_gold_jewelry

freethrowtommy

03-20-2015, 02:59 PM

It looks horrendous.

But trapped autos are signed paper first and then inserted into the card after the fact. Panini actually designed the card that way to be hard signed. Its freaking stupid. Typical Panini.

This product, outside of the cards that look like Strata Clear Cuts, looks so terrible I cant even put it into words. What is Black Gold anyways?

When I think of Black Gold, I think of something like a 1970s blacksploitation movie about a jewelry loving female cop who is taking it to the streets and roughing up some jive turkeys.

Not quite sure that is what the did, at least not for all of them. Check out this Barr auto that Chris at Infinity pulled. Notice the top of the "B" following the top of the black? It looks like it was signed after the fact...

Not sure why they would do this? Unless they could get some in person and others had to be sent. No clue... :confused:

I still think the design is pretty solid on these.

http://i.imgur.com/ZW09y5X.jpg

valleyofsun

03-20-2015, 03:04 PM

Just another product that will be a poopnini bloodbath.

nera20

03-20-2015, 03:06 PM

this looks pretty bad this product, $180 box with 90 percent of the boxes probably bringing back about $20 to $30 dollars worth of cards

kyle1707

03-20-2015, 04:24 PM

Garbage for the price... just saw 2 cases opened...

Geez

wmeinhold

03-20-2015, 04:56 PM

This might be the most disappointing product in a long time. The base cards are killer and everything else pretty much sucks. Wow.

NCinCT

03-20-2015, 08:29 PM

Not quite sure that is what the did, at least not for all of them. Check out this Barr auto that Chris at Infinity pulled. Notice the top of the "B" following the top of the black? It looks like it was signed after the fact...

Not sure why they would do this? Unless they could get some in person and others had to be sent. No clue... :confused:

I still think the design is pretty solid on these.

http://i.imgur.com/ZW09y5X.jpg

I actually kind of like the paper insert on the card instead of a sticker. I think it just fits nicer together.

MeetJSquared

03-21-2015, 12:02 AM

I actually kind of like the paper insert on the card instead of a sticker. I think it just fits nicer together.

On-Card > Paper > Sticker

The problem is they market them as on-card, where it's debatable on whether 'paper-signed' counts as on-card.

They did this in a basketball product a while ago, I think it was Innovation.

This reminds me of 2005 Exquisite Football. Beckett doesn't count the RPAs (like Rodgers) as on-card, and it does look like a similar design as far as the auto signed on a 2nd layer beneath the top layer.

freethrowtommy

03-21-2015, 05:47 AM

I actually kind of like the paper insert on the card instead of a sticker. I think it just fits nicer together.

For sure, they did pretty well with the design.

I also like the fact that it was done on paper rather than the acetate. Some of the acetate cards in this set look like they have faded signatures already. The gold on black just pops on these.

NCinCT

03-21-2015, 11:50 AM

On-Card > Paper > Sticker

The problem is they market them as on-card, where it's debatable on whether 'paper-signed' counts as on-card.

They did this in a basketball product a while ago, I think it was Innovation.

This reminds me of 2005 Exquisite Football. Beckett doesn't count the RPAs (like Rodgers) as on-card, and it does look like a similar design as far as the auto signed on a 2nd layer beneath the top layer.

On-card > Paper >>>>> Sticker.

Agreed. It is a shady that the consider it hard-signed, but for presentation's purposes it is much nice. I think they did it in the baseball Immaculate release (the Freddie Freeman's look really nice... but I digress).

It has layers. Who doesn't like layers!?

NCinCT

03-21-2015, 11:51 AM

Colts2012

03-21-2015, 03:44 PM

FWIW- Panini announced that Black Gold is "sold out". At least got to have more sales than Spectra.

trixstar

03-21-2015, 03:48 PM

FWIW- Panini announced that Black Gold is "sold out". At least got to have more sales than Spectra.

That's great that they sold out of it, too bad LCS's will be stuck with it on their shelves for the next 2 years.

panther252

03-21-2015, 03:56 PM

Every time I see "sold out" I'm always reminded of Hot Rookies......*shudders*

ninjacookies

03-21-2015, 04:33 PM

Those Team Symbol cards tho lol.

bcubs

03-21-2015, 04:38 PM

I think the product looks great, probably my favorite of the year. My LCS got 4 boxes and sold out yesterday.

ManInTheMirror

03-21-2015, 07:24 PM

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjYwWDUwNg==/z/gS4AAOSwv0tVDgeq/$_1.JPG

sew kewl :rolleyes:

valleyofsun

03-21-2015, 07:40 PM

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjYwWDUwNg==/z/gS4AAOSwv0tVDgeq/$_1.JPG

sew kewl :rolleyes:

OMG! Crazy awesome poopnini mojoz!!!! :)!

kyle1707

03-21-2015, 09:23 PM

FWIW- Panini announced that Black Gold is "sold out". At least got to have more sales than Spectra.

LOL

My dist called me Friday and asked me if I wanted any...

They said I could get up to a dozen cases...

I will wait until it drops to 90 dollar's a box

Just garbage for price...

STOP making so many cards Panini.. its disgusting

manning99

03-21-2015, 11:40 PM

zacsoccer6

03-21-2015, 11:45 PM

Can't argue on the poor overall breaks on this for the price. The Shield and Team Logo cards? No thanks. Its been pretty limited breaks showing up on the boards here. We will see this stuff on for $99 a box at the National in Chicago. The hype machine was working overtime on this one, and it looks like fewer people may have bit, so I was happy to see that. Immaculate embarrasses this stuff in general and my only hopes is that NT can salvage an otherwise lacklustre year for Panini. I sure miss Upper Deck.

I've loved most of the Panini sets this year... when the price drops! I think Immaculate would be a good buy at 275 a box. They set the prices way to high for every product especially high end. So does topps though, everything topps this year has tanked in value.

dustyb1987

03-22-2015, 12:02 AM

Can't argue on the poor overall breaks on this for the price. The Shield and Team Logo cards? No thanks. Its been pretty limited breaks showing up on the boards here. We will see this stuff on for $99 a box at the National in Chicago. The hype machine was working overtime on this one, and it looks like fewer people may have bit, so I was happy to see that. Immaculate embarrasses this stuff in general and my only hopes is that NT can salvage an otherwise lacklustre year for Panini. I sure miss Upper Deck.

ive seen a crap ton of those broken already. i did 2 cases myself and loved it. i did get 2 pretty loaded cases. this forum isnt the only place ppl post breaks and cards they pulled. i dont see prices falling at all. ppl here need to open a product and see it in there own hands before they judge something. IMO this has potential for product of the year.

valleyofsun

03-22-2015, 12:04 AM

ive seen a crap ton of those broken already. i did 2 cases myself and loved it. i did get 2 pretty loaded cases. this forum isnt the only place ppl post breaks and cards they pulled. i dont see prices falling at all. ppl here need to open a product and see it in there own hands before they judge something. IMO this had potential for product of the year.

This can't be serious right?! :confused:

dustyb1987

03-22-2015, 12:23 AM

This can't be serious right?! :confused:

yes it is. everyone has there opinions and this is mine :)!

ILOVEBEER

03-22-2015, 01:09 AM

Im a pretty casual collector. I've bought plenty of singles from 2014 products, only bought 3 boxes. These relic cards have worn out their welcome in my opinion. These cards look great, but why would I spend a few hundred to get a patch/auto numbered to 199 or a triple relic numbered to 99? This is pretty much the same stuff from Elite, Limited and Certified just a different design. These high end products should give a little more.

Frankp2311

03-22-2015, 06:41 AM

This can't be serious right?! :confused:

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/football-box-breaks/850840-1-box-group-break-black-gold-nike-swoosh-auto.html

This probably weighed in heavily on that comment.

nfunk

03-22-2015, 09:13 AM

ive seen a crap ton of those broken already. i did 2 cases myself and loved it. i did get 2 pretty loaded cases. this forum isnt the only place ppl post breaks and cards they pulled. i dont see prices falling at all. ppl here need to open a product and see it in there own hands before they judge something. IMO this has potential for product of the year.
Busted 3 boxes and tossed everything on ebay immediately.
Flawless or Immaculate is the product of the year.
These black/gold will hold virtually zero value down the road.
Not a fan.

oldgoldy97

03-22-2015, 09:42 AM

I'd rather buy a box of this over a box of Triple Threads, which is what it is trying to go up against IMO. Both products are too expensive, though.

Flawless product of the year? Might as well call the Flawless Wilson "game worn" the card of the year if that's the case.

dustyb1987

03-22-2015, 10:02 AM

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/football-box-breaks/850840-1-box-group-break-black-gold-nike-swoosh-auto.html

This probably weighed in heavily on that comment.

no not really i posted in this thread hours before having that pulled for me. :)!

deltapi1049

03-22-2015, 10:05 AM

For sure, they did pretty well with the design.

I also like the fact that it was done on paper rather than the acetate. Some of the acetate cards in this set look like they have faded signatures already. The gold on black just pops on these.

Guys, do you not get that the cards were hard signed? Yes, Panini actually produced these cards the way they look, and the players signed on the paper.

They could have had these hard signed with no paper. Instead Panini thought these were good looking just the way they are. They look like garbage.

freethrowtommy

03-22-2015, 10:09 AM

Guys, do you not get that the cards were hard signed? Yes, Panini actually produced these cards the way they look, and the players signed on the paper.

They could have had these hard signed with no paper.

I believe we both do, yes.

The gold on the black paper still looks good. The design on these is still fine.

Could they have been better? Sure. But they aren't bad.

deltapi1049

03-22-2015, 10:14 AM

I believe we both do, yes.

The gold on the black paper still looks good. The design on these is still fine.

Could they have been better? Sure. But they aren't bad.

We are not going to agree on this. If you get them hard signed, why would they separate out that area with the paper? They did this in immaculate baseball, and it disrupts the whole look of the card. If they could get hard signed regular autographs with a normal space for the players to sign, it wouldnt look like poop.

freethrowtommy

03-22-2015, 10:15 AM

We are not going to agree on this. If you get them hard signed, why would they separate out that area with the paper? They did this in immaculate baseball, and it disrupts the whole look of the card. If they could get hard signed regular autographs with a normal space for the players to sign, it wouldnt look like poop.

That's fine. To each their own.

I should have one in hand in the next couple days so I will be able to judge better how I feel about them.

oldgoldy97

03-22-2015, 10:19 AM

We are not going to agree on this. If you get them hard signed, why would they separate out that area with the paper? They did this in immaculate baseball, and it disrupts the whole look of the card. If they could get hard signed regular autographs with a normal space for the players to sign, it wouldnt look like poop.

Maybe they were trying to avoid this...

https://i0.wp.com/i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa80/Tragik007/_57_16.jpg

But it's on card so it's much better :)!

However, I'm not a design major so I really can't say what a good design is. I need someone to tell me what to like.

deltapi1049

03-22-2015, 11:09 AM

Maybe they were trying to avoid this...

https://i0.wp.com/i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa80/Tragik007/_57_16.jpg

But it's on card so it's much better :)!

However, I'm not a design major so I really can't say what a good design is. I need someone to tell me what to like.

I'm a communications major, so I need to communicate my opinions to make good use of that investment I made in college.

"That card sucks!" = tuition money well spent!