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IkeDavis29
03-20-2015, 07:40 PM
I have been really thinking about this because so many players are getting the surgery. It is really starting to get crazy. What do you guys think is causing this epidemic? I personally think that its either because pitchers are trying to throw too hard, or its because when players were younger they were playing year round and not having any time to rest. I just realized how many pitchers had the surgery and I had no idea that they had it. I'm just curious to see what you guys think.
jmscoggin
03-20-2015, 07:44 PM
This gets studied and discussed every year. The most common theory is overuse due to year round playing that many of these players do now. It doesn't help that the human elbow was never designed to throw a piece of leather 90+mph.
death2redemptions
03-20-2015, 07:47 PM
Most common thought is that it has to do with kids starting to throw the breaking pitches (curveball, slider) at such a young age.
tkraft24
03-20-2015, 07:49 PM
Unsustainable mechanics
ChiSox22
03-20-2015, 08:07 PM
Most common thought is that it has to do with kids starting to throw the breaking pitches (curveball, slider) at such a young age.
That's what I heard I think ,Steve stone, say. And yea as mentioned about the all year long pitching. In my neighborhood there's this really good lefty pitcher and he would pitch one day in his traveling team, then here in the neighborhood the very next day because he was "eligible". Etc
death2redemptions
03-20-2015, 08:19 PM
Pitchers that throw hard breaking stuff are much more likely to end up needing TJ surgery. The velocity of the fastball doesn't have much to do with it.
jmscoggin
03-20-2015, 08:20 PM
Pitchers that throw hard breaking stuff are much more likely to end up needing TJ surgery. The velocity of the fastball doesn't have much to do with it.

Are you picking a fight again? I've already told you that I'm onto your strategy of obtaining make up relations and I won't fall for it too many more times.
death2redemptions
03-20-2015, 08:23 PM
Are you picking a fight again? I've already told you that I'm onto your strategy of obtaining make up relations and I won't fall for it too many more times.

Wait, what's going on here? I didn't know I was picking a fight? But then again...

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ArsonCuff
03-20-2015, 08:23 PM
Because their ulnar collateral ligament has been damaged.
metsplaya123
03-20-2015, 08:23 PM
Are you picking a fight again? I've already told you that I'm onto your strategy of obtaining make up relations and I won't fall for it too many more times.
He has that kavorka that makes us go wild. You will always fall for it unless he bathes and wears garlic
jmscoggin
03-20-2015, 08:28 PM
He has that kavorka that makes us go wild. You will always fall for it unless he bathes and wears garlic

Lol, you keep using this word and while I always understood the gist of it, I finally decided to look up the true meaning. Yes, yes he does and it is so powerful that garlic won't hold me back. A Panini card on a string around his neck might but not garlic.
metsplaya123
03-20-2015, 08:30 PM
Lol, you keep using this word and while I always understood the gist of it, I finally decided to look up the true meaning. Yes, yes he does and it is so powerful that garlic won't hold me back. A Panini card on a string around his neck might but not garlic.
I am dissapointed in you. I always thought you were a Seinfeld fan. Every Seinfeld fan knows the kavorka!
death2redemptions
03-20-2015, 08:30 PM
Is kavorka a athlete?
jmscoggin
03-20-2015, 08:32 PM
I am dissapointed in you. I always thought you were a Seinfeld fan. Every Seinfeld fan knows the kavorka!

I am a huge fan but I have a horrendous memory and that one doesn't ring a bell.

Is kavorka a athlete?

It is if it is inside of you.
jlzinck
03-20-2015, 08:33 PM
Duh...Obama
metsplaya123
03-20-2015, 08:33 PM
I am a huge fan but I have a horrendous memory and that one doesn't ring a bell.



It is if it is inside of you.
The conversion. Kramer has the kavorka that lures the nun and george wants to convert to Latvian orthodox. Watch it!
RAZOR Z
03-20-2015, 08:35 PM
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metsplaya123
03-20-2015, 08:36 PM
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Dam he is huge
death2redemptions
03-20-2015, 08:38 PM
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Whacking off everyday will do that to you...I speak from experience and will attest to it.
jmscoggin
03-20-2015, 08:41 PM
Whacking off everyday will do that to you...I speak from experience and will attest to it.

Yes, but both of his guns are the same size, you have one freakishly skinny arm and one Schwarzenegger arm.
death2redemptions
03-20-2015, 08:42 PM
Yes, but both of his guns are the same size, you have one freakishly skinny arm and one Schwarzenegger arm.

I couldn't see his other arm but that is preciously correct.
metsplaya123
03-20-2015, 08:44 PM
Who is that ?
death2redemptions
03-20-2015, 08:45 PM
Who is that ?

I thought it was a photoshopped image.
SoxFan
03-20-2015, 08:45 PM
It's because the pitchers that end up getting Tommy John never cross trained in sports. They usually only focused on baseball all year round. And if they did play another sport, all they did was play the same position in baseball. The same throwing motion over and over again without any change will cause ligaments, muscles, and tendons to wear down.
anusinha
03-20-2015, 09:10 PM
Yes, but both of his guns are the same size, you have one freakishly skinny arm and one Schwarzenegger arm.

http://i46.tinypic.com/t5rfph.jpg
bwalter1
03-21-2015, 12:46 AM
Same reason car engines go out after so many miles lol. Used and abused. But seriously as it has been stated in some other threads. Pitchers focusing just on pitching throughout the entire year as apposed to only during season and at practices.
PejaD
03-21-2015, 02:18 AM
They want to be filthy rich millionaires. In the old days when surgery was less successful and salaries were lower, most guys with blown elbows would just retire.

Notice many of the veterans who have made $50M+ in their careers just retire rather than go through the surgery/rehab routine.
VeedonFleece
03-21-2015, 02:28 AM
Who is that ?

It's Canseco, isn't it?
jmscoggin
03-21-2015, 10:33 AM
Who is that ?

It's Canseco, isn't it?

The reason I didn't answer when Mets asked is because I was thinking I was missing something. The picture is so obviously Jose that I assumed Mets had to be asking about something else. I think most people forget that he ever played for the Rangers which is strange. The most infamous baseball highlight of his career was delivered in that uni.

DLs0pjWnzTY
metsplaya123
03-21-2015, 10:50 AM
The reason I didn't answer when Mets asked is because I was thinking I was missing something. The picture is so obviously Jose that I assumed Mets had to be asking about something else. I think most people forget that he ever played for the Rangers which is strange. The most infamous baseball highlight of his career was delivered in that uni.

DLs0pjWnzTY
Is it bad that I thought he was wearing a minor league jersey "angers?"
jmscoggin
03-21-2015, 10:51 AM
Is it bad that I thought he was wearing a minor league jersey "angers?"

Yes, yes it is. Also, expect a cease and desist letter from Tyson's lawyers for uttering that name. He has it trademarked, copyrighted and patented.
metsplaya123
03-21-2015, 10:54 AM
Yes, yes it is. Also, expect a cease and desist letter from Tyson's lawyers for uttering that name. He has it trademarked, copyrighted and patented.
No need for letters, I'll probably get an eBay message soon from Tyson chicken
jmscoggin
03-21-2015, 11:03 AM
No need for letters, I'll probably get an eBay message soon from Tyson chicken

I think he has Ebay unfriended me, as I haven't had a message from him in some time. I wouldn't call him a chicken though, he was anything but that. He had no issue coming right at anyone and saying his peace. Say what you will about him but he wasn't afraid to speak his mind and he also wasn't a wuss when the crap came back his direction which it did frequently. I respect that.
metsplaya123
03-21-2015, 11:07 AM
I think he has Ebay unfriended me, as I haven't had a message from him in some time. I wouldn't call him a chicken though, he was anything but that. He had no issue coming right at anyone and saying his peace. Say what you will about him but he wasn't afraid to speak his mind and he also wasn't a wuss when the crap came back his direction which it did frequently. I respect that.
Just said Tyson chicken because of the brand Tyson chicken lol

No other reason
ArsonCuff
03-25-2015, 06:44 PM
Giants defy odds on elbow-injury epidemic - San Francisco Chronicle (http://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/jenkins/article/Giants-defy-odds-on-elbow-injury-epidemic-6156561.php)
mwash1983
03-25-2015, 06:54 PM
Giants defy odds on elbow-injury epidemic - San Francisco Chronicle (http://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/jenkins/article/Giants-defy-odds-on-elbow-injury-epidemic-6156561.php)

Wonder why, they let their kids go out and pitch, Bumgarner threw 142 innings as an 18 year old in low-a.